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On March 26 2011 13:07 LSB wrote:Just saying, I edited my previous post. You can talk about who sent you the PMs now. Of course, its useless. But as for breadcrumbing. No comment
Clearly that is not popcorn in that bucket, it is really + Show Spoiler +
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Yeah comparing PMs seems like a dishonest way to trick mafia. Thats not really how I want to win. If LSB is allowing breadcrumbs to how your PMs are worded or words in them, then I think he knows this is going to fuck up your plan.
In fact, I'm sure of it. If determining mafia was as easy as that I would not be playing the game.
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On March 26 2011 13:44 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 13:36 bumatlarge wrote: Yeah comparing PMs seems like a dishonest way to trick mafia. Thats not really how I want to win. If LSB is allowing breadcrumbs to how your PMs are worded or words in them, then I think he knows this is going to fuck up your plan.
In fact, I'm sure of it. If determining mafia was as easy as that I would not be playing the game. Um, I don't think I'm voting you for mayor anymore. I talked with LSB about this plan BEFORE I POSTED IT and he didn't have a problem with it at all. Kita did at first, but he talked to LSB and they gave me the go ahead. This plan wouldn't work at all if it wasn't for the item game, where we can be certain that there aren't any blues. So its not unfair at all IMO; its a tactical play that can only work in a certain place. LSB said it himself. Anything goes in this game, its insane mafia. And I want a mayor who wants to win, one who is willing to take any advantage he/she can get. But since you're likely to be elected anyway, I hope this little stunt helped you in some small way. If it helps at all, I consider annul, coag, lemonwalrus, and insanious all to be clean because of this plan, but I might be biased because I came up with it.
Alright, if LSB thinks it's fair then go for it. But just be wary, if it is a method that let's you catch scum without scum being given the means to defend against it, it will fail. I can guarantee you that.
I trust most of the IG players to be able to see this anyway, so I'd love to hear what you guys come up with. You seem to be heavily invested in this, so if it fails for some reason, You'll lose a lot of respect. Just throwing that out there. Guarantee RoL and Kav will agree with me.
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On March 26 2011 13:56 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 13:47 Lemonwalrus wrote: I think jackal is drunk
this pleases me
gun toting drunk guy pew-pewing scum without giving a single shit about his own well being.
This will be entertainment of the highest caliber. I am. And I'm going to bed. I'm soon to post things Qatol has informed me are bad juju for mafia players. So rather than making an ass out of myself my drunken ass is going to go flame people on another forum where I can get away with it and finish my beer. Bum please consider my post and let me know whether I'm dead or not.
If I killed you because you were drunk in mafia, I'd be a massive hypocrite. You probably should trust the other IG players if they think you are town.
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Alright, if voting off someone from the item game is of the utmost importance, then I need to know the stances of everyone in the IG. If you are still deliberating over something, say you are in the thread.
On March 26 2011 11:23 Jackal58 wrote: #1 Bum lynch Tackster. Dunno if he's red or black but he is scum.
On March 26 2011 12:11 Coagulation wrote: i agree 100% Tack needs to die
That's two for tackster, and I couldn't find if annul, darm and LW had said this as well. If it's unanimous among them, then he's probably the strongest candidate. Since people in the IG have kept quiet about most things, I'll trust them just saying who is scum.
Remember the logic here. 4 townies, 2 scum. Scum on opposing sides. With decent townie play, we should be able to make the outcome 100% town.
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On March 26 2011 15:54 Kavdragon wrote: I kindof already did this, but I'm no longer running for mayor.
I do not have the time that I thought I would have coming into this game, so while I still expect to contribute, I do not have the time needed to be Mayor.
I've still not had the time to put together an analysis of iGrok, but I did manage to read his posts, and I can say that a preliminary glance tells me nothing. There are some stupid things, but I haven't found him hiding anything yet. (YET.)
Deconduo will be my next object of scrutiny, followed by Meapak.
By the way, I suggest Vigis of sorts read into Kav's analyses and see what matches your own. Kav, even if mafia, is scum-hunting. I'd advise against nailing someone in the IG.
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On March 26 2011 16:17 chaoser wrote: So Bum, will Batman be making an appearance?
You have no idea. Mafia should though.
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Man you guys sure do jump around.
Outside of the IG, I have to say tackster has been working his ass off to prove he is town, and in general has gotten much more defense. Personally, I hate the "Lynch me then and you will see I am town" argument. Do not blame your lack of townieness on me, thank you very much.
People in the IG do not have long to live. Would it really be smart for tackster's scumbuddies to go all out in defending him when he is probably going to flip in the next day or so? The fact that jackal has gotten no defense makes it appear that way (strangely the only defense was 2 posts from orgolove and now hes back in the shadows )
So I do feel that tackster is town and jackal is not.
However, I still stand by how I view the IG game to a degree. If tackster has done something so scummy that it nullifies everything that has been stated, I need to know what that is. Like-wise, if jackal has done something so protown, etc. i need to know.
What I need right now is one target from each IG player. And give me town reads as well.I do NOT need two scum tells as people have pointed out repeatedly that scum will FoS whoever they can.
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On March 27 2011 05:07 annul wrote: the majority (if not all other five?) of us agree that tackster is a fine kill for tonight.
Alright, I just want confirmation on this from all. Even if two are scum, three of you who are town have a strong feeling that tackster is scum, even with what he has posted in the thread?
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On March 27 2011 05:15 Coagulation wrote: darmousseh or tack
What did I just tell you not to do lol?
Ugh, I'm probably going to split it down the middle with what IG comes up with and what town is saying, because town has a lot of conviction with the Jackal VS tackster thing.
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On March 27 2011 05:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Finally off from work for a day. Just wanted to ask the reasoning behind lynching from the item game? It seems kind of stupid statistically speaking. There is a 1/3 chance a player is anti town in both the item game and in the actual game.
1) Scum is on their own in the IG, no scumbuddies 2) 4 townies are guaranteed to be among them with PM rights, so they should have a large say in which among them gets lynched. 3) They are likely to be picked off at a faster pace then the rest of the town
Thank you jackal, that is what I wanted to hear.
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On March 27 2011 05:22 annul wrote: i would actually take out jackal first if it were me ;\
This is what I want to hear. No pussy shit here annul give me your TRUE CONVICTIONS. I'm assuming both tackster and jackal regardless of alignment want to stay alive so they should want the other killed.
Tackster - Jackal Jackal - Tackster Annul - Jackal Coagulation - Tackster Lemon - Tack? Darm - Tack?
Change it at anytime. My team is discussing this now.
@insanious, I know they are in PM contact, but if we add weight to what the IG players say, defending in the IG game becomes genuine, or a scum tactic. I am leaning heavily against jackal as of right now, even if it's 2:4. I can't really ignore a unanimous decision, but since they are starting to seem a bit more unsure, or having better scum reads on others besides the main lynchees, then I will definitely take yours and everyone else's strong analyses for tackster and against jackal into account.
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On March 27 2011 09:19 chaoser wrote: Also, Bum, can we get an update on what your circle is saying about the lynch? Day ends in 2 hours right? At this point I think I'd rather lynch Darm than Jackal/Tack. Will update after I review everything.
Wow chaoser get out of my head. I had this typed up, but now I make sure to refresh the thread before I type shit.
Ok, so the general town vibe thinks tackster is town. Jackal and coag have plans to confirm each other and annul is in on this as well considering he also pleaded to wait til day 2 before we lynched him. Lemon and coag have town vibes for one another.
... What about darm? I know only a few of you said he seemed scummy, but is he important to your plan? He's lurking much harder then jackal or tackster. Funnily enough, my team is deciding on whether it should be darm or annul for the lynch, not jackal or tackster lol...
So I think my lynch candidate will be darm. Chaoser's thoughts would be nice.
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Well, I asked LSB if I could be mayor, and apparently Im about to get that role. Sending my kill in, and following my heart!
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On March 27 2011 10:32 darmousseh wrote: This really must be insane mafia. I've never seen so many posts before. There is so much back and forth going on it's pretty stupid. Behavioural posts are good, but I've never had much success trying to identify scum based on post behaviour alone.
I'm going to say it right now.
I have a role check item and I plan on using it and the only people who can stop me are scum. Simply defending is a bad idea since you don't gain any benefit from an item unless you use it. Everyone in the IG should either use their item or steal the person who they think is scum's item.
There's so many posts regarding all the IG people including myself and I have no idea where to start rebutting.
I think sticking to any plan bum has is probably a good idea since the worst thing town can do is second guess their decisions. This has caused many games to be won by mafia (mini mafia where i was town and people backstabbed me, and suicide mafia, where as scum i encouraged people to argue with each other followed by town blowing themself up).
If we are going to lynch an IG player (which is probably the most optimal thing to do), then I think tack is fine for lynching, but I think we should role check jackal if possible (or vice versa).
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Well I'm taking a small break, really not going to obsess over who should be doing what. If you are town, do what you think is best, if you are scum, then I don't care
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On March 27 2011 11:45 Kenpachi wrote: is it safe to bet that the CEO is the 3rd party leader?
I have reasons to believe that is the case. What darm said seems like an obvious joke to me, just like me giving RoL sole rights to the lynch.
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On March 28 2011 02:59 BrownBear wrote: Hahahaha, for a second I thought that Barundar had the power of being able to edit his posts.
Ok, so well done bum, I'm pretty sure that unless I missed something huge, there was no counter blue claim. I'm also reading through 50+ pages (was on a plane for most of yesterday), so cut me a little slack. I'll pick up the activity now that I'm home/out of midterms.
Currently, I'm looking at Jackal cause his name's come up a bunch. I'm also reading through Insanious - his posting gives me a very bad vibe.
Well, I am willing to cut you some slack because 1) I like you and believe you 2) You are hosting the next game, which I assume took a lot of effort to set up. 3) There seem to be bigger fish to fry.
But I should let you know, my kill on darm was not because of what he said, it was mostly about what he didn't say. Hopefully that's a message to the lurkers. Because guess what lurkers? I have the power to absolutely destroy you and your name. People will look at your scum role reveal on death and go "Who was this noob? Oh someone bum fucked." You don't think I can? Well you know I can, more then any townie knows. So spill it.
On March 28 2011 03:03 Ver wrote: If I was in this game I would've subbed out when it reached 86 posts in day 1.
I read every word in this thread twice mother fucka.
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