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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 12 2011 19:46 GMT
#18
/in
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 23 2011 21:05 GMT
#223
On March 24 2011 05:48 Jackal58 wrote:
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On March 24 2011 05:42 ilovejonn wrote:
Just making sure no one makes more because its already making the thread pretty long lol.

Worked out well for town in XXXVI. Kav got his name out before roles were assigned and we elected a townie as mayor. Was no scum bias at the time.


If im mafia, I'll make everyone regret campaigning before the game starts.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 23 2011 22:18 GMT
#240
On March 24 2011 07:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
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On March 24 2011 07:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Let's just start the game now since most people are here and active


+1, Let there be kittens in tophats!


stahpot ni snettik eb ereht teL ,1+
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 23 2011 22:33 GMT
#253
Maybe the real test is to see who doesn't have the balls to post, and the person who doesn't post the most gets modkilled. In other words, he who boasts his no post most, may get the roast, and become toast. Then you get sent to the coast of goatse.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 23 2011 23:02 GMT
#274
On March 24 2011 07:35 GMarshal wrote:
You may be right, I mean each post only has a 2% chance of you dying to a horrible mod-kill anyway.

Oh, I'm going to guess that the number is 273. Am I right kita?


I may be crazy, BUT IT JUST MIGHT BE A LOOONATIC UR LUKING FOR
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 02:41 GMT
#358
On March 24 2011 11:34 chaoser wrote:
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On March 24 2011 11:31 annul wrote:
hi, elect me for mayor

i am a townie with no abilities apparently (???), so give me something to do pl0x.


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Green Town- These are the normal townies. Well, not so normal. Every single townie has a power. So there like super townies, but very squishy.




LOL... for real annul? Like really?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 02:41 GMT
#360
oh hes in item game nevermind
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 02:55 GMT
#380
There are currently 30 players remaining.

There are currently 16 Townies remaining.
There are currently 4 Police remaining.
There are currently 6 Mafia remaining.
There are currently 4 Third party remaining.


Ok this is pretty simple. Barring extremes, a person in the police can claim freely and be elected mayor. Either mafia or third party would have to trade their entire squad to stop the police from doing this. Agree to this or not, it basically gives us a townie with a pre-set townie circle as mayor. So if you are a green townie it would be in your best interest to drop out of the race if this is to gain momentum.

The extremes of course would be the game setup for-seeing this and giving scum and third party methods to circumvent this.
1) Infiltration. I have a really strong gut feeling that certain team members will have alternate win conditions. So police should decide amongst them who would be the best mayor and most likely town affiliated person.
2) ??? It's insane mafia, so this could backfire, but it beats me how. Any suggestions or criticisms are NECESSARY, because what the fuck do I know. Insane #1 raped me.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 03:03 GMT
#390
On March 24 2011 12:00 Coagulation wrote:
insane mafia 1 was a terrible game for town.
remember how i was mafia and i basically supported pandain 100% openly as possible and then got lynched flipped red and then town god knows how managed to confirm pandain as town and he then commences to rape everyone and walk away with mafia victory.

good times.


Maybe if you left me alive it wouldn't have been a terrible game
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 03:06 GMT
#396
On March 24 2011 12:00 tnkted wrote:
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On March 24 2011 11:55 bumatlarge wrote:
There are currently 30 players remaining.

There are currently 16 Townies remaining.
There are currently 4 Police remaining.
There are currently 6 Mafia remaining.
There are currently 4 Third party remaining.


Ok this is pretty simple. Barring extremes, a person in the police can claim freely and be elected mayor. Either mafia or third party would have to trade their entire squad to stop the police from doing this. Agree to this or not, it basically gives us a townie with a pre-set townie circle as mayor. So if you are a green townie it would be in your best interest to drop out of the race if this is to gain momentum.

The extremes of course would be the game setup for-seeing this and giving scum and third party methods to circumvent this.
1) Infiltration. I have a really strong gut feeling that certain team members will have alternate win conditions. So police should decide amongst them who would be the best mayor and most likely town affiliated person.
2) ??? It's insane mafia, so this could backfire, but it beats me how. Any suggestions or criticisms are NECESSARY, because what the fuck do I know. Insane #1 raped me.


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On March 24 2011 11:57 chaoser wrote:
Also, something I'd like to point out

1. Coagulation
2. darmousseh
3. Jackal58
4. annul
5. Tackster
6. Lemonwalrus

There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining.


We got a 2 in 6 chance of giving mayor to either black or red if we vote for someone in the item game while it's 16 to 8 if we vote for someone not in the game that a townie gets the mayor role (exclude them from the count so 20 town->16, 6->5 mafia, 4->3 black so that's 16:8)



These are both extremely good points. I absolutely agree with the item game thing. One caveat about the cop thing: how do we know that person is really a cop and not a mafia pretending to be a cop? are cops told who the other cops are?

On March 24 2011 12:02 LSB wrote:
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On March 24 2011 12:00 tnkted wrote:
are cops told who the other cops are?

Yep.
Everyone but townies are told who their allies are.

And I have/will update the FAQ so check frequently!


That sells it. Third and mafia would basically have to give up their entire team to counter a police claim. In which case it would be completely worth it.

Anyone have any counter-points to this?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 03:10 GMT
#402
On March 24 2011 12:09 chaoser wrote:
Wait bum, can you explain the blue plan to me? So a blue player will claim blue, get voted mayor? If it's a red/black then someone on the blue team can immediately call them out on it? in which case it becomes a 1 on 1 and that's good for town. Is that what you're saying?


Exactly. I'm assuming role reveal of course. Thats confirmed right?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 03:12 GMT
#408
On March 24 2011 12:10 annul wrote:
why would the reds and blacks need to give up their entire team to counter a blue claim?


My thought process as well. A counter claim would only reveal that scum has no way to stop it to their knowledge, so I think we can bank on neither faction counter claiming.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 03:17 GMT
#414
On March 24 2011 12:14 tnkted wrote:
Yeah, wait a minute. if a blue claims, then if a red or black claims as well, than we dont know who to trust because everybody will simply claim blue to cause confusion.

Theres no way to confirm if a blue claiming or counterclaiming is actually blue without dts, which we don't have yet.

The plan would have worked if bum was a blue and claimed right away, instead of pitching the idea. as it is however, we've had the chance to think about it, scum will just claim blue to confuse everyone.

On the upside, however, the blue circle will have a confirmed red or black... so i guess the plan has its merits.




I'm fairly certain the police force does not contain ALL the blues in the game. In fact, it would be too strong if most of the normal blue powers were dispersed among the non-police.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 03:19 GMT
#418
On March 24 2011 12:17 annul wrote:
here is why you should vote for me

we all have bad games. i have bad games. everyone has bad games.

that said, if i am having a GOOD game, i completely fucking rape the opposition.

there is probably just as much a chance that a mayor has a good game as a bad one, so let's give me the chance to have a good game this time and proceed to roll the fuck on the reds and blacks. i am just coming off of a good game and i feel the wheels still turning.


And what if you are having a good game as scum? Then you will fucking rape the opposition? I'm not liking the my odds
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 03:20 GMT
#420
On March 24 2011 12:20 tnkted wrote:
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On March 24 2011 12:17 bumatlarge wrote:
On March 24 2011 12:14 tnkted wrote:
Yeah, wait a minute. if a blue claims, then if a red or black claims as well, than we dont know who to trust because everybody will simply claim blue to cause confusion.

Theres no way to confirm if a blue claiming or counterclaiming is actually blue without dts, which we don't have yet.

The plan would have worked if bum was a blue and claimed right away, instead of pitching the idea. as it is however, we've had the chance to think about it, scum will just claim blue to confuse everyone.

On the upside, however, the blue circle will have a confirmed red or black... so i guess the plan has its merits.




I'm fairly certain the police force does not contain ALL the blues in the game. In fact, it would be too strong if most of the normal blue powers were dispersed among the non-police.


actually, since each townie has a power, i think blue roles physically mean that they are the only blues in the game. i could be wrong i suppose. i was going by the color chart on page 1 anyway.


I guess I'm use to looking at it the other way. Then you are very right.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 03:39 GMT
#440
On March 24 2011 12:32 Kavdragon wrote:
Right, all caught up now. Kav mode: Engaging

First order of business: COAG! WILL YOU BE MY BFF?

Second order of business: Jackal, I had town select the vote day one when I was a blue mayor. It's not scummy. Yes, it makes it easier for scum to influence it, but the mayor needs to be very, very transparent so that the town can analyse him/her. Thus, letting the town weigh in on the lynch keeps the mayor honest.


Yeah thank god you let town vote or I wouldn't have gotten to do all that fun stuff. But Kav is right in the end, though the first lynch is usually always a miss regardless of how good your scum-hunting is day 1.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 03:53 GMT
#445
Well, I think I already slipped up and it is fairly obvious if you lookat my posts that I am part of the police force. I've mulled it over and the only thing we really have to lose is outing one member (me) to everyone. So let me go over why it's clear you should vote for me.

1) I am the most confirmed you can get. If there is no counter-claim, I will be assuredly more town then anyone else.

2) I have a circle of 3 other townies. I've ruled out that we have a member with a different win-condition, since mafia has decent numbers already, and 3rd party is BP. Additionally, the numbers add up with how many are in each faction.

3) We have access to more then a circle. I won't disclose anymore until it's clear I am going to win.

Personally, I have a lot of time to devote, and I have 4 times the man power of any other candidate. I believe that being elected as confirmed town mayor will not be the hard part, but rooting scum out and realizing their counters to me being mayor will demand effort.

So I advise green townies in the race drop out and vote me, because I doubt you have more to offer. If you are mafia or third party, please stay in the race or counter claim to make my job easy.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 04:05 GMT
#456
On March 24 2011 13:02 annul wrote:
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On March 24 2011 12:53 bumatlarge wrote:
3) We have access to more then a circle. I won't disclose anymore until it's clear I am going to win.


you lie.

you only are given your alignment, not a role in PM until day 1 begins.

grats on being caught in a lie. mayor needs to be killing bumatlarge with his kill.


So is this a counterclaim or are you making up bullshit? My team has been told what it can do, jsut like the mafia and the third faction have been told Im sure.

Try again.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 04:12 GMT
#464
On March 24 2011 13:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
You guys are retarded. The town sucks at deciding things and they almost always fuck up the Day 1 lynch. Annul is the exception to the rule in this case. You guys should just let me do all the analysis and pick who to lynch.

Either that, or give me 16 votes towards the day one lynch. I am cool either way.


Remember last time you ran for mayor?

And annul, if I am not blue, then a real blue can come out and counter claim me. If there is a reason why he would not, then enlighten me. My alignment PM gave me more then my alignment. That is all I will say until I am mayor.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 04:18 GMT
#466
On March 24 2011 13:17 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Last time I ran for mayor was in HP iirc. You all should of listened to me then too. Also bum, I will vote for you if you agree to kill whoever I tell you to.


Deal.
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