Insane Mafia 2 - Page 2

On March 24 2011 11:11 GMarshal wrote:


Right, like presenting arguments for lynching someone is also scummy, its evident that we should just take your word for it. If you want to be mayor give me 3 good reasons, why are you valuable enough to essentialy get a free pass to the endgame?

On March 24 2011 11:21 Jackal58 wrote:

I don't defend scum.
I don't get every vote wrong.
I don't like banana puppies.

Only a mafia mayor will endorse a day 1 lynch. Day 1 is a crapshoot. Day 1 is controlled by scum. A mayor that abdicates his power of lynch on day 1 to a vote is a scum mayor.
He knows town can't find his ass with both hands on day 1.
He knows scum is strongest on day 1
He knows a vote will be wrong.

A vote for me is a vote for town. I'm not promising you guys a bandwagon vote.
I'm promising you guys I will vote for who I think is scum. I also promise I can listen to all arguments for and against everybody and will accept or reject what I believe to be right or wrong.

A mayor that promises to lynch according to votes is scum.

On March 24 2011 11:24 Coagulation wrote:
you dont defend scum cause you never defend anyone.

On March 24 2011 11:24 GMarshal wrote:


Well, not counting anything else, theres the fact that I will be doing constant, active analysis, weather sucessful or unsucessful remains to be seen, but I'll be constantly stirring the hornets nest to keep scum from lurking, obviously if I'm dead then thats going to put a hamper in my lynch all lurkers plan. I'd actualy be more than happy to have a better scumhunter in this position, if I were sure he was town, at the moment the only person I can know with any certanty is town is my, so I'd rather deny the scum or third party the ability to require two townies to DIE before they can be night killed

On March 24 2011 11:32 tnkted wrote:


You're awful quick to accuse me of being scum based on... what exactly? I'm just a townie, minding my own business.

And all three of your reasons are not good reasons. They are fake reasons/assertions. The third one is a joke. The first two are assertions which you have certainly not demonstrated. To me, at least. I don't know if you have a history in this game, but unless you are the van helsing of scum hunting I don't believe you have the cajones to talk like that. I'm not saying you're scum, just that you aren't playing like a town at the moment. If you think there is something wrong with my plan, explain what that is and I will happily step down.

Now, just so that nobody thinks i'm not really running, here are my three reasons:
1. I'm a noobie. This means that i am absolutely not a threat to anyone, and am therefore a prime target for early mafia kills. I could use the human shields!
2. I'm smart. I'm a psych minor in college atm, and while that doesn't exactly make me Freud it does give me a little bit of an edge over your average TLer with an engineering degree.
3. I don't forget easily. I don't forget what people have said in the past which will come in handy in late game situations. If I was one of the last few guys left I would dedicate myself to a indepth study of every remaining player, and would then write up an exhaustive analysis on their play.

So... that's my platform I guess. Mayor seems like a scary, important job, but I'm willing to step up and do it!

On March 24 2011 11:36 GMarshal wrote:


Are you forgeting the fact that there are TWO factions in play, scum is going to be gunning for the third party and the third party is going to be gunning for scum because enemy night kills cannot be as easaly manipulated as town lynches can, this is why scum is going to be 100% guaranteed to be gunning for the mayorship, as is the third party, if the scum team can grab the mayorship they can be slightly less worried about the third party and if the third party grabs it they can be slightly less worried about mafia. That means they have more freedom to go after troublesome townies. Did I honestly need to explain that? Also the free day 1 lynch is a delicious treat for either group

On March 24 2011 11:40 tnkted wrote:


Well, forgive my inexperience, but doesn't the very fact that the vets are such juicy targets make killing them seem very suspicious? If you have a vet thats doing some dangerous theorizing, wouldn't killing him be exactly the wrong thing to do as mafia? it would validate his theory. Instead, the smart move for that mafia would be to kill a noob or some other target.

On March 24 2011 11:42 GMarshal wrote:


Wait, what? I'm assuming that the third party all work together like a mini scum team, so why would they not be organized? Did I miss something? or do you know something I dont?

On March 24 2011 11:45 tnkted wrote:


Minor, actually. I'm an English major, going to law school.

Which, since you seem to be so interested in generalizing people negatively, means i get laid waaaaaay more often then you.


and... you're right about wifom, i just googled it. My bad.

On March 24 2011 11:48 GMarshal wrote:

Well the fact that there are four of them with a single KP among the four suggests they are a team (if is one kp each we are already in HUGE trouble) . What worries me is that we don't know their win condition, so we have to take them out asap because of the possibility that they win when scum is dead even if most of the town is still standing.

On March 24 2011 11:51 chaoser wrote:


Well generally day 1/2 the vets haven't really collected enough data and maybe they'll push someone who's town. Just cause they're vet doesn't mean they're 100% right. It's easy to get out from a vet's analysis if it's early, but it's much harder if it's later on since more things will have happened for them to make a more robust argument. I dunno, I usually never see newbies get killed early on, it's either mid tier players, high tier players, or blue snipes.

@Jackal
You like to tunnel...A LOT. Because of that you almost lost town the game in a recent mafia cause you pushed for pandain's lynch so hard that if there wasn't a vigi, mafia would have 100% won. I don't know if I trust you as mayor deciding our first lynch as well as a figurehead of sorts for town. While town voting day 1 is a crap shoot, leaving it in your hands might not necessarily be any better. This is because I noticed you didn't say you would say who you were going to lynch first to town before lynching. At least if it comes down to a town vote everyone can see where the lynch is going. If you just lynch without telling anyone, that'd be very bad. Will you be telegraphing your lynch target first or will you just be shooting the guy? I don't really care for cowboy mayors.

On March 24 2011 12:08 tnkted wrote:


Well, that would be a fairly simple thing to fake, wouldn't it.

That's not a confirm, its a shred of evidence.

On March 24 2011 12:19 bumatlarge wrote:


And what if you are having a good game as scum? Then you will fucking rape the opposition? I'm not liking the my odds

On March 24 2011 18:41 deconduo wrote:
I don't see any reason not to vote for bum tbh. I had that plan in mind myself too, but I wanted to wait until I got my alignment first to make sure I was town.

If he is not blue, then:
-He's taking a huuuuge risk
-Why hasn't a blue cc'd

Kav's argument is pretty meh also. Why not elect a confirmed town mayor, and he can listen to all the vet's scumhunting. Its not like bumatlarge is bad either,,,

If we elect a scum veteran player as mayor, then it will be 200x harder for us to lynch him. He will be able to wriggle out of most cases against him. A confirmed town that can take advice from all the vets in the game is better than an unconfirmed vet.

On March 24 2011 19:16 deconduo wrote:
In fact, the only way scum can shut down his campaign without CCing is to throw as much suspicion as possible on him, kind of like what you are doing now.

Making his voters feel uneasy about voting for him is scum tactics 101.

FOS Jackal