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On March 29 2011 01:35 CubEdIn wrote:
Yeah, no.
I do believe that you're the bus driver and have switched bum and lemon, otherwise the lemon check wouldn't have made sense in a LOT of scenarios.
Now, we still need to figure out why Tack didn't die. Two bus drivers might be a bit much indeed.
The only thing is, mafia thought Jackal would hit, not Coag, so whatever happened, couldn't have been a spell cast on Coag.
Did you not read my post? Mafia must have known who was going to do the hit, which means either lemon or jackal must have told them.
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Actually, I think I need to be killed... if mafia can mind control they could just use me to shift targets around every night.
Didn't think that one through when I posted it.
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Ah I see.
Well then, the only scenario that makes sense to ME right now is that Lemon is indeed red, tnked managed to screw up everyone with the awesome bus switch (since, you know, lemon was getting checked), and Tacked is caught in the middle.
The reason I'm saying this is that Day 2 is entitled confusion, and it's pretty clear that Coag didn't know why he shot annul.
I don't know, I've just been getting a good vibe from tack this whole game, and I don't think LSB would place a newbie in a 4-man-mafia team, and then place HIM in the item game. I know it's meta-game and shouldn't be considered, but come on, it makes much more sense for Lemon to be the scum.
Besides, we can solve this by killing both, someone get medics on Jackal/Coag and kill the other two. Easy peasy.
And yes, I'm considering that Jackal is town.
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On March 29 2011 01:39 tnkted wrote:Actually, I think I need to be killed... if mafia can mind control they could just use me to shift targets around every night. Didn't think that one through when I posted it.
That would explain LSB saying
'DO NOT ROLE CLAIM UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES'
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On March 29 2011 01:41 CubEdIn wrote:
Ah I see.
Well then, the only scenario that makes sense to ME right now is that Lemon is indeed red, tnked managed to screw up everyone with the awesome bus switch (since, you know, lemon was getting checked), and Tacked is caught in the middle.
The reason I'm saying this is that Day 2 is entitled confusion, and it's pretty clear that Coag didn't know why he shot annul.
I don't know, I've just been getting a good vibe from tack this whole game, and I don't think LSB would place a newbie in a 4-man-mafia team, and then place HIM in the item game. I know it's meta-game and shouldn't be considered, but come on, it makes much more sense for Lemon to be the scum.
Besides, we can solve this by killing both, someone get medics on Jackal/Coag and kill the other two. Easy peasy.
And yes, I'm considering that Jackal is town.
You do realize that lemon is new too, right?
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This is both lemon and tack's first game. The only experienced players still in IG are Jackal and Coag
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Yeah, I guess, but it's also the posts that are making me lean towards Lemon more.
Anyway, the more I think about it the more pissed off I get. I know you wanted to use your role, but the fact that the blues (bum killing a scum on day 1) knew what they were doing should have been enough indication that you should steer clear of the item game.
We would have had a brilliant check by bum/bum's friend/whatever and we would know for sure who to lynch.
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On March 29 2011 01:30 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 01:27 tnkted wrote:On March 29 2011 01:25 Jackal58 wrote:On March 29 2011 01:23 tnkted wrote:On March 29 2011 01:18 chaoser wrote:Also, annul was Annul the Item Game Participant has died
Alignment PM. (Mafia Miller) not a bodyguard so yeah... Ahh. Ok Well that could explain why Annul was hit twice; black dt checked him and thought he was red.It doesn't explain why they tried to hit bum though... Hmm.. @Coag: Who all knew what Lemon's item was? Really????? why do YOU think he was hit twice? And what do you mean I'm in the right game? Annul X 2 I meant for Tackster. Gmarshall X 1 Kav X 1 4 kp 4 shots. You're freaking insane.
This. I'm not entirely sure why you think that bum was hit, not me.
[green]If bum were hit, would he be notified?[/b]
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Buh.
If bum(mayor) were hit, would he be notified?
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I'm still waiting for bum to explain his certainty of 85% - 100% that Tack is scum.
I'm done til then. Too many variables.
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I'm Baaacccckkkk!!! omggggggg....
Ok to be honest guys I'm really confused - i don't know all the roles in forum mafia (mind control?) and while I accept tnkteds bus theory i'm a bit confused as to the logic after it...
So I'm going to read all this for like the third time and get back to you with one of my thought out posts that Jackal and Coag keep saying have no content...
But the important thing:
I did not know that mood ring had been stolen until I got a PM from LSB:
From: LSB Banking
Subject: Correction
Date: 3/28/11 22:54
Correction to the last PM. I forgot to take in account Annul's actions.
Oh No! Your mood ring was stolen, at least you have the bandages.
Current Items
Bandages- Yay Medic! You got Bandages. You can use it protect someone at night, including yourself!
This was sent to me at 22:54. My last post is at 20:17. I did not have this information at the time!!
LSB posted the mood ring information out at 22:56 - 2 min after he PMd me.
LSB can you please confirm for the game players that I was working off of incorrect information up until my last post? I think as I had no knowledge and this was an innocent mistake I should be cleared of any allegations that I hid the mood ring info from the game
Well I hope that clears that up and I'll get back to analysis!
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On March 29 2011 01:59 Tackster wrote:I'm Baaacccckkkk!!! omggggggg.... Ok to be honest guys I'm really confused - i don't know all the roles in forum mafia (mind control?) and while I accept tnkteds bus theory i'm a bit confused as to the logic after it... So I'm going to read all this for like the third time and get back to you with one of my thought out posts that Jackal and Coag keep saying have no content... But the important thing: I did not know that mood ring had been stolen until I got a PM from LSB: Show nested quote +From: LSB Banking
Subject: Correction
Date: 3/28/11 22:54
Correction to the last PM. I forgot to take in account Annul's actions.
Oh No! Your mood ring was stolen, at least you have the bandages.
Current Items
Bandages- Yay Medic! You got Bandages. You can use it protect someone at night, including yourself! This was sent to me at 22:54. My last post is at 20:17. I did not have this information at the time!! LSB posted the mood ring information out at 22:56 - 2 min after he PMd me. LSB can you please confirm for the game players that I was working off of incorrect information up until my last post? I think as I had no knowledge and this was an innocent mistake I should be cleared of any allegations that I hid the mood ring info from the gameWell I hope that clears that up and I'll get back to analysis!
I believe you on the mood ring. LSB is suspiciously close to LSD. Sometimes he forgets.
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@Jackal, Coag
How would the mind control ability affect your plan to confirm each other?
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On March 29 2011 02:10 deconduo wrote:
@Jackal, Coag
How would the mind control ability affect your plan to confirm each other?
Unless the scum element has managed to infiltrate my beer supply not very likely.
I love how everybody is all aboard the mind control bus.
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On March 29 2011 02:10 deconduo wrote:
@Jackal, Coag
How would the mind control ability affect your plan to confirm each other?
Their entire plan was probably based on them breadcumbing townie pm's to each other to confirm that they're town.
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On March 29 2011 02:14 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 02:10 deconduo wrote:
@Jackal, Coag
How would the mind control ability affect your plan to confirm each other? Unless the scum element has managed to infiltrate my beer supply not very likely. I love how everybody is all aboard the mind control bus.
All that doesn't matter anyway. Coag said that if I flipped green he would assume you were the red. therefore you haven't confirmed each other if it is possible for you to be red...
Assuming you confirmed each other coag would have said lemon...
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1) Why did Tackster get bussed to annul?
Don't know, something changed Coag's target from Tack to annul though
2) Why was annul shot twice if Tackster was bus?
Don't know yet
3) Why does annul have the mood ring and why didn't Tackster say he got it stolen?
Annul stole it and LSB didn't take that into account
and finally
4) Why did LW show up as blue from a check?
Tntked claims he bussed Lemon and Bum and so when DTs checked lemon, it came up blue
I have a question for tnkt, why did you bus Lemon and Bum?
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On March 29 2011 02:15 Rean wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 02:10 deconduo wrote:
@Jackal, Coag
How would the mind control ability affect your plan to confirm each other? Their entire plan was probably based on them breadcumbing townie pm's to each other to confirm that they're town.
Breadcrumbs are so pedestrian.
On March 29 2011 02:17 Tackster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 02:14 Jackal58 wrote:On March 29 2011 02:10 deconduo wrote:
@Jackal, Coag
How would the mind control ability affect your plan to confirm each other? Unless the scum element has managed to infiltrate my beer supply not very likely. I love how everybody is all aboard the mind control bus. All that doesn't matter anyway. Coag said that if I flipped green he would assume you were the red. therefore you haven't confirmed each other if it is possible for you to be red... Assuming you confirmed each other coag would have said lemon...
You need to read this :
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=8486681
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On March 29 2011 02:20 chaoser wrote:
1) Why did Tackster get bussed to annul?
Don't know, something changed Coag's target from Tack to annul though
2) Why was annul shot twice if Tackster was bus?
Don't know yet
3) Why does annul have the mood ring and why didn't Tackster say he got it stolen?
Annul stole it and LSB didn't take that into account
and finally
4) Why did LW show up as blue from a check?
Tntked claims he bussed Lemon and Bum and so when DTs checked lemon, it came up blue
I have a question for tnkt, why did you bus Lemon and Bum?
Tnkted said that he bussed them because he thought mafia would try to kill lemon.
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On March 29 2011 02:10 deconduo wrote:
@Jackal, Coag
How would the mind control ability affect your plan to confirm each other?
I am pretty sure they just trust each other off of reads. Since we know all their item powers we know that nothing they have can confirm each other.
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