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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On March 19 2011 03:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: No it's not  How many more times do I have to say this. The person who is voted to be lynched may not be the person who dies.I guess the only way to solve this problem is that the person who is majority voted has to be pushed by everyone, whether you voted him or not. Organized town is a good town yes? | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
[QUOTE]On December 28 2010 06:42 Incognito wrote: Mr. Wiggles (1) Mr. Wiggles Pandain (4) tree.hugger bumatlarge Ryuu314 ~OpZ~ Jackal58 (0) LSB (3) annul TheMango Jackal58 DoctorHelvetica (2) RebirthOfLeGenD seRapH ShocKeyy (1) Let's say that Pandain is where I am and LSB is where OriginalName is. Look, I won the vote but I'm not dying because of where I am on the chart. Oh look, LSB is dying even though he didn't win the vote, he's dying because of where he is on the chart. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On March 19 2011 03:55 chaoser wrote: What does that even mean "then the information was taken away as wrong information"? Why don't you have the ability to PoP? You didn't use any of them. I can only pull now thanks to you. Your reason to FoS me (usually chaoser doesn't vote that quickly, FOS!!) is so meta that on day 1 it doesn't even make sense. Really? I think I've played this game long enough to know how to screen my own posts if I'm mafia. I mean, I fooled GM and Barundar for DAYS on SKYPE. That's real time baby. If LSB hadn't been confirmed and I wasn't the next person on the vote list with the most votes I would have gotten away with it too. Fact of the matter is you made us waste 2 pushes and a pull and then go OOPS now I can't do my ability OOPS even if I could do it before I read it wrong so lawl, nevermind. Yeah, ok. EDIT: Oh cool, I still got my push. ##Vote darmousseh Did you see the little red traffic light image on ace's recent post? Yeah now it's gone. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On March 19 2011 03:55 chaoser wrote: What does that even mean "then the information was taken away as wrong information"? Why don't you have the ability to PoP? You didn't use any of them. I can only pull now thanks to you. Your reason to FoS me (usually chaoser doesn't vote that quickly, FOS!!) is so meta that on day 1 it doesn't even make sense. Really? I think I've played this game long enough to know how to screen my own posts if I'm mafia. I mean, I fooled GM and Barundar for DAYS on SKYPE. That's real time baby. If LSB hadn't been confirmed and I wasn't the next person on the vote list with the most votes I would have gotten away with it too. Fact of the matter is you made us waste 2 pushes and a pull and then go OOPS now I can't do my ability OOPS even if I could do it before I read it wrong so lawl, nevermind. Yeah, ok. EDIT: Oh cool, I still got my push. ##Vote darmousseh Also, it's just a FOS, nothing more. No need to overreact. I think mafia most likely are lurking right now anyway. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On March 19 2011 04:00 chaoser wrote: I guess the only way to solve this problem is that the person who is majority voted has to be pushed by everyone, whether you voted him or not. Organized town is a good town yes? This is a better idea in that it will ensure the town lynches who the majority wants to. However this requires that everyone agree. I remember during insane 1 with the Aeres lynch I was vehemently against that, however I was noob and wasn't willing to stick my neck out enough to save him. Never the less I voted against the majority and I ended up being right. By consolidating our votes we eliminate the chance for people to say "Hey look I was against the vote here and I saved a town." In fact this almost defeats the purpose of a vote in my eyes. A vote gives us an oppertunity to see where people stand and gives everyone something to work with. If we force consolidation it will be really easy for the mafia just to pick and bandwagon and hide in it. In my eyes placing a vote is saying "I'm pushing you when the day ends." But if we consolidate at the end, it in my mind this removes a lot of the pressure currently associated with a vote. To me, a vote is just a placeholder for a PoP, it alerts the person you're voting for that they are under suspicion and that you would vote them if the day ended now. The way I thought voting would work is that we PoP'd who our final vote was. This is why I've been warning people that the majority may not die. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
I must figure out the way to play SO protown no one can say I'm not protown...the god hand of mafia... | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 19 2011 04:21 chaoser wrote: I wish Day 1 I could just slip by without anyone saying anything about me. o.O | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On March 19 2011 04:21 chaoser wrote: I always overreact lol, I wish Day 1 I could just slip by without anyone saying anything about me. Like a slug. Or seaweed. Or possibly some sort of worm ｡ﾟ(ﾟ´Д｀ﾟ)ﾟ｡ I must figure out the way to play SO protown no one can say I'm not protown...the god hand of mafia... FoS Do I need to explain why? Apologetic tone? Check. Aversion to scrutiny? Check. "Imma noob don't hurt me"? Check. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote Keifru Hi! Welcome to TL, I want to see how you handle pressure, especially after that terrible OMGUS vote against Meapak + Show Spoiler [ vote tally 3] + Vote Tally 1.3 Current Vote Tally 1. Mr. Wiggles (0) 2. GGQ (0) 3. OriginalName (0) 4. Kenpachi (0) 5. Meapak_Ziphh (1) Keifru 6. annul(0) 7. bumatlarge (0) 8. kitaman27(0) 9. Keifru(2) GMarshal Meapak_Ziphh 10. Insanious (0) 11. chaoser (0) 12. darmousseh (1) chaoser 13. RoL(0) 14. GMarshal (0) 15. Eiii(0) 16. CubEdIn (1) darmousseh 17. Rean(0) Not currently voting: Mr. Wiggles GGQ OriginalName Kenpachi annul bumatlarge kitaman27 Insanious RoL Eiii CubEdIn Rean Current Vote Leader is: Keifru with 2 votes a majority has NOT been reached | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On March 19 2011 04:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: FoS Do I need to explain why? Apologetic tone? Check. Aversion to scrutiny? Check. "Imma noob don't hurt me"? Check. 1) I didn't say I was a noob, just the post above I say I think I'm a decent mafia 2) I wasn't apologizing for anything, where do you see sorry in there? 3) Don't you wish you could find some sort of formulaic play high level that makes it very likely that you are protown? 4) I'm referencing a bunch of manga (slug/seaweed/worm - one piece when you get hit with negative ghosts, god hand - hikaru no go) and was joking | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
On March 19 2011 04:36 chaoser wrote: 1) I didn't say I was a noob, just the post above I say I think I'm a decent mafia 2) I wasn't apologizing for anything, where do you see sorry in there? 3) Don't you wish you could find some sort of formulaic play high level that makes it very likely that you are protown? 4) I'm referencing a bunch of manga (slug/seaweed/worm - one piece when you get hit with negative ghosts, god hand - hikaru no go) and was joking OMG, i was about to post a picture of the hand of God from hikaru no go  | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Also, vote! Voting does not use up any of your valuable PoPs and it at least provides for discussion | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On March 19 2011 04:36 chaoser wrote: 1) I didn't say I was a noob, just the post above I say I think I'm a decent mafia 2) I wasn't apologizing for anything, where do you see sorry in there? 3) Don't you wish you could find some sort of formulaic play high level that makes it very likely that you are protown? 4) I'm referencing a bunch of manga (slug/seaweed/worm - one piece when you get hit with negative ghosts, god hand - hikaru no go) and was joking Well sorry I overreacted then. Take a step back and look at your post real quick though, I'm sure you can understand why it would trip my scum alarms  | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On March 19 2011 04:00 chaoser wrote: I guess the only way to solve this problem is that the person who is majority voted has to be pushed by everyone, whether you voted him or not. Organized town is a good town yes? Also, this, I don't see how I forgot to post it as it was originally part of my plan, stupid me I assumed people would just see it. Thanks chaoser for pointing it out. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On March 19 2011 02:26 Keifru wrote: How interesting. Sounds like you know the mafia pretty well. Mind posting what y'all said during the night for us while you're at it? I've been mafia for the past 4 games now, so yeah, I've got an idea of some of the silly plays mafia could try on day one. And since I do not know the nature of his ability, I am free to speculate. BTW there hasn't been any "night" yet. Speaking of the past mafia games, I found that one very strong clue on the first days is the mafia "FoS someone, vote for someone else" game. It usually means that the one they are FoS-ing but not voting is a fellow scum, and it takes quite a bit of self control to NOT do this. Let's see who did this so far: On March 19 2011 02:17 Keifru wrote: I don't like this post of yours. Voting will leave a vote trail, which is incredibly good for us. If we just fling PoPs around willy-nilly, it does nothing and we can't use it to find scum very well. (@ Meapak) ...later on in the same posts he votes for darmousseh So, he's got my vote for today. P.S.: I don't think darmousseh is scum, for he has been really up-front with his requests, even tho he screwed up his ability by trying to hide what it does, and didn't tell us that additional moving will screw everything up. However, the time frame was really short, so I am keeping my eye on you. 2 pushes and a pull were not that important so early on, though, so you're still on the safe side imo. Also, he brought out a possible issue: don't push/pull until you're sure it's ok with the town, new 5 minute rule. It's better that we realized this so early on and after only wasting a few push/pulls. So, bottom line: I'm gonna put my vote on Keifru. I will aslo PUSH him in an hour or so, because I have to leave after that and I'm not 100% sure I'll be back by sundown. If you'd rather me not use my push at all, then I won't, but please say so in the next hour. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On March 19 2011 04:40 GMarshal wrote: Well, we really need to decide who to lynch, it would absolutely suck for day 1 to go by with a nolynch don't you guys think? We have a bunch of people who haven't really posted, what do you guys think of burning one of them today as an example? Or is there someone who strikes you as ridiculously scummy who must hang now? I'll grant you that I'm pissed at darm for making me waste my push, but I dont think that that makes him scum. Also, vote! Voting does not use up any of your valuable PoPs and it at least provides for discussion I find it questionable that your whole platform has been to carefully plan out the voting before making a dumb push/pull that cannot be undone and then the first thing you do is to Push darm. Even the way it went down was weird. You ask him a question and then without waiting for a response "accidentally" push him a second time. How effective do you expect your pressure votes to be, when you don't even have a vote of your own? Still waiting on the response from RoL. Annul if you love to play day one aggressively like you say, anything to add? No posts from Kenpachi, Insanious, Bum yet. On March 19 2011 04:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Well sorry I overreacted then. Take a step back and look at your post real quick though, I'm sure you can understand why it would trip my scum alarms Apologetic tone? Check. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
. However despite having spent my PoP my vote will still count the same, after all as I see it this is the only way to ensure fairness, especially on days in which we have more than one lynch (this applies to everyone btw, its the only way I see to make this workable).Also while we are at it would you mind casting a vote against someone? I dont care if its me who you want to vote, but give us something to discuss. Anyway, I'm off to the movies and wont be back for three or so hours, I'll retallie the votes when I get back | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On March 19 2011 00:53 GGQ wrote: Well I don't think scum would be so happy to put themselves near the fire. Plus he's being upfront about using a power when he gets to that position. I feel like scum would be sneakier about getting into that spot if they wanted it. I wanna pull this post up where I was supporting the idea of moving darmousseh to the spot he requested, because he was being upfront and open so I thought we would quickly get a confirmation of his ability and what he did with it. However, he now claims that he wasn't able to use his ability, even though he got into the position he asked for. It's still possible that he's telling the truth, but I find it suspicious, at least. It's quite possible that he used an ability and just isn't telling us. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On March 18 2011 04:31 bumatlarge wrote: /confirm Well, I hardly think that everyone will push. More often then not, a townie will have a strong incentive on who they think is town rather then who they think is scum. The fact that you can completely counteract a push with a pull makes it a lot more forgiving then GaG. I think we should just normally push and pull whoever we want and if they die well then it's their fault for being scummy. I think it would be pretty rare for someone to get pulled too hard that they fall off the other end without obvious mafia activity. Arguing against town organisation and for chaotic individuality gets bumatlarge my vote. ##vote bumatlarge | ||
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