EPTMini Mafia VII: Guts and Glory
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On February 17 2011 09:56 darmousseh wrote: Also this would remove the ability for a mafia fanatic to bomb someone right before they die unless they are closely watching the thread. Mafia don't have the fanatic ability. | ||
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On February 17 2011 11:57 GMarshal wrote: DLYM? Now I'm curious Don't Lose Your Mafia! | ||
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On February 18 2011 04:35 GMarshal wrote: and if we are wrong on all 3 then we are in a bad spot, I don't think this is a brilliant idea somehow, unless we are sure of who the mafia is, I belive that if you are a townie and are going to be hung, unless you know for sure (or 90% sure at least) that your target is mafia then its probably better to just die and not take another townie with you. The idea is that if town has two potential lynch targets, one can detonate on the other, instantly resolving any questions about the two players considered the scummiest. The alternative is that those two players will almost certainly take up the towns first two lynches, so they'll just die more slowly. | ||
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On February 18 2011 02:25 Jackal58 wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 18 2011 01:20 Amber[LighT] wrote: This is so so so so so so important. Treat yourself as a game decider when you want to blow yourself up. When you do this, you are pretty much cutting the towns numbers down by 1/4 on Day 1 if you mess up, and then again by a 1/3 or 2/5 [depending on our lynching abilities]. Everyone should get their behavioral analysis hats on and start thinking about 4 players. I'm going to assume that there is only 1 medic in this game, since anymore than that would probably be broken for the town. Why? Simple. Role claiming would be a slightly less risky plan with multiple medics since there is less risk of losing our protection abilities as the days continue. Okay so now you want to focus on finding 4 players. 3 of them should be your potential mafia players. Easier said than done right? The other is who you think is the medic. Keep tabs on all of these players. Try to do your best to save your medic pick without vocalizing that you think 'player x is who I think is the medic!' With that said... I'm still interested in hearing from Deconduo since he's been rather quiet. I think once we hit the first 24 hours it would be safe to say he's lurking. It's weird because he posted an hour before the game started, but since he's from Europe I'm going to give him a pass on that since he most likely went to sleep by time everything started. Chaoser is another one I want to hear about. He's been quiet and his only post has been "lawl." He didn't seem very intent on creating a strategy for us to follow aside from laughing. Lynch suspects for Day 1? I would start with those 2. Chaoser would probably be my bet as of right now since he hasn't contributed after the Coag thing, which people were kinda getting upset about. It's not like he actually exploded! We can't sit around and discuss useless information or play-styles. This isn't exactly innovative Coagulation play it's pretty much normal from what I remember of his style. This post has mafia written all over it. Explain your reasoning or your FOS is worthless. | ||
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On February 18 2011 05:14 darmousseh wrote: Earlier I said chaoser is crazy every single game and so FOSing him right away isn't always the best idea, but he still hasn't said anything, makes me curious. Are you confusing chaoser and coagulation? | ||
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If so, we have to look at our options. we lynch today and hit lylo tomorrow, or we no lynch today and hit mylo tomorrow. Either way, if we misbomb or mislynch tomorrow, we lose. We can no lynch two days in a row, which would give us the most discussion time, but then we get no kills and mafia get two kills. I suggest lynching today, which gives us the power to choose one of the two kills before we hit lylo. Also I'd like to point out that lylo isn't quite so scary in this game, since, if we are about to lynch a fanatic he can always explode and hopefully give us another chance. Of course, if either chaoser or LunarDestiny is mafia, then we still have a mislynch before lylo. | ||
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My suspicion is on Coagulation and OriginalName, who have spoken the least. Speak up. | ||
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Did you not read my post at all? What justification do you have for saying that? Logic, please. | ||
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the fuck? | ||
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On February 19 2011 09:36 Coagulation wrote: ON MY 4000th POST SOMEONE WILL DIE. Are you saying that you are going to use your 4000th post to blow someone up, so you are restricting yourself to using only one post to help us before that? You've been perhaps the least pro-town player in this game, btw. | ||
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On February 19 2011 10:22 Jackal58 wrote: Everybody in the game has a basic grasp of arithmetic. Revisit your logic. Alright, I'll go over it again, slower for you. If we lynch today, it will be 4v3. If we don't, it will be 5v3. Either way, we will have to lynch tomorrow and we will have to get that lynch correct or we lose (we can't safely 'no lynch' tomorrow, even if it's 5v3, because of the way the lynch mechanics work in this game). That means that if we lynch tonight, it is a free extra kill in the hands of town. We are not in a mathematically worse position if we mislynch tonight because we will be looking at a game-ending lynch tomorrow whether we mislynch or 'no lynch'. If we 'no lynch' tonight, we are simply depriving town of an opportunity to try to lynch scum first. I can't see how taking a killing power away from town benefits us. Not only does lynching make sense mathematically, it also provides town with an opportunity for discussion. If we no lynch tonight, then that's all that's going to happen. We get no more information until the mafia picks their kill tonight. By deciding on a lynch, we will get arguments, debates, and analysis, all of which will help us scumhunt. For both of these reasons, lynching tonight is far superior to not lynching. Now, please, show me the problems in my logic. | ||
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but I think GGQ went a little off-base with his "4v3" thing. Was that a mafia slip up? He seemed pretty confident that we're going to miss today if we lynch. I want to address this quotation from Amber[Light]'s big post up there. If you read my post, the point was to logically show that lynching today is at least as good, if not better then not lynching. Thus I had to show the worst case scenario for a lynch, which is a mislynch. However, I actually think that we have some good suspects to work with and we're having good discussion too, I'm happy to see. Coagulation, you are under pressure right now. Anything to say? | ||
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Coagulation, I'm willing to switch my vote. Can you convince me that either Amber[Light] or darmousseh is mafia? | ||
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##unvote Coagulation ##vote Amber[Light] | ||
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Coagulation's only scum read that he's given on me is that one post that he quoted, and it isn't even scummy. I typed it in a hurry (as evidenced by the fact that I forgot to vote in that post) and wasn't paying enough attention to how I phrased things, but look at my posts and tell me I've been scummy. This is a terrible last-minute switch. | ||
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On February 20 2011 10:23 GMarshal wrote: also, GGQ has been waaaay too conciliatory this game, IIRC GGQ's style is much more aggressive/less "flowers and happiness" Where have I been flowers and happiness? | ||
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unvote Amber[Light] vote Coagulation | ||
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On February 20 2011 11:05 Coagulation wrote: answer my question if your town IM GOING TO SUICIDE IF your town who should it be. This is important. If mafia disregard I already said on the last page, dont suicide unless town decides to lynch you, it doesnt make sense. It's optimal for town to go for a lynch, then if that person isn't mafia he should blow himself up on the next best target. As for who I recommend as lynch targets, I'd say you should look at the people who didn't participate in this little catastrophe, Barundar, ON, and deconduo. Also darmousseh is a little suspicious to me. | ||
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On February 20 2011 11:07 GGQ wrote: I already said on the last page, dont suicide unless town decides to lynch you, it doesnt make sense. It's optimal for town to go for a lynch, then if that person isn't mafia he should blow himself up on the next best target. As for who I recommend as lynch targets, I'd say you should look at the people who didn't participate in this little catastrophe, Barundar, ON, and deconduo. Also darmousseh is a little suspicious to me. Also GMarshal because usually he has more sense than this. | ||
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On February 20 2011 11:13 deconduo wrote: Oh I realised we can no lynch on day 2 by going 3-3-1 for example. I brought up the problem with that already, which is that mafia can switch the vote at the last minute and steal the game. | ||
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On February 21 2011 13:08 Amber[LighT] wrote: I'd bet either Deconduo [good attempt at directing a hit in his direction] or Coagulation for obvious reasons. Deconduo. I would have loved for you to kill Coagulation tbh. I knew he would ignore all my advice and blow himself up right away on someone. Frowny face at all the people who ignored my logic in this game. | ||
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