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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 19 2011 22:30 GMT
#286
[QUOTE]On February 20 2011 07:22 Coagulation wrote:
[QUOTE]On February 20 2011 01:38 GGQ wrote:
[quote]

Coagulation, you are under pressure right now. Anything to say?[/QUOTE]

im not mafia.

dont lynch me and i will prove it next round by killing a mafia.[/QUOTE]
Would you mind saying who so we can lynch him/her instead?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 20 2011 05:29 GMT
#371
Lol you guys suck. How could you fuck this up?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 20 2011 05:47 GMT
#372
Just in case you idiots don't realise: When the vote subjects are BOTH mafia, the "this lynch is too easy" argument doesn't work for last minute switching.

But atleast the whole scum team is revealed now, should be a pretty easy win.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 20 2011 06:29 GMT
#373
Scumteam:

Coagulation:
Played the lurking mafia, threatening to blow up anyone who mentions him, and refused to contribute at all. Makes 1 post saying he isn't mafia, which some of you somehow believe. Propose to know a certain mafia he can blow up, but only produces a list. Is the first to switch votes away from his teammate Amber[light] after he makes 1 post saying he isn't guilty.

Amber[light]
Has tried to play the contributing mafia, writing walls of text with generic advice. When it's down to him or Coag dieing today he suggest to help bandwagon coag, I have played scumteam with coag and he is not afraid to let his team bus him. Frantic last minute vote switching resulting in a tie.

GMarshal
Has been hiding well, I was unsure if it was him, GGQ or OriginalName that was the remaining scum. He outted himself to save his team today:

Coag makes 1 post saying he isn't red, and GMarshal changes vote with:
On February 20 2011 07:34 GMarshal wrote:
actually I'm willing to take coag up on that offer, as long as we have his word that he will detonate tomorrow morning against a mafia target (coag has really good scumhunting skills IMO), also if he were scum I dont think he would offer to do so, instead he would probably claim medic.

so instead of that
##Unvote
##Vote OriginalName

He gives no reason for switching to OriginalName, his post is just about Coag. Personally I questioned Coags post, but GMarshal just buys it, and places a more or less random vote without explanation.

Straight after he changes vote again with the following reason:
On February 20 2011 07:50 GMarshal wrote:
To be perfectly honest, my gut says Amber[Light] is scum, and his willingness to lynch jackal, who is almost certainly an overaggressive townie, at this point in the game when we have established that we cannot afford a mislynch makes me really suspicious of him
##Unvote
##Vote Amber[Light]

Decent reason. Coag changes to amber at the same time. Time to sacrifice a team member.

Little later, Amber makes 1 post saying he is innocent. After Coag, GMarshal changes vote with:
On February 20 2011 10:21 GMarshal wrote:
ok, at this point I still think Amber[Light] is most likely scum, but I see GGQ's vote as an attempt at bussing, I don't understand your reasoning at all Coag so you better explain it during the night phase, still though, I'm willing to go with it on the suspicion that you have a logical reason for doing this.

Actually no one tired to defend Amber which is pretty indicative of a townie being bandwagoned, i think I get your reasoning Coag, although I still suspect Amber[Light] of being scum

##Unvote
##Vote GGQ

WHAT A SHITTY REASON. 1) GGQ was just a number of people switching to amber, 2) If anyone is bandwagoning it's GMarshal himself.

This is the last minute vote switching mafia does when they can't find it in them to properly bus their team mate. I myself am bad at letting my team mates die. But this is typical behavior for a pretty new mafia player.

GMarshal has managed to lay low really well so far, but eratic vote switching like this when his teammates was on the chopping block gives him away.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 20 2011 06:43 GMT
#375
On February 20 2011 15:39 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2011 15:29 Barundar wrote:
Scumteam:

Coagulation:
Played the lurking mafia, threatening to blow up anyone who mentions him, and refused to contribute at all. Makes 1 post saying he isn't mafia, which some of you somehow believe. Propose to know a certain mafia he can blow up, but only produces a list. Is the first to switch votes away from his teammate Amber[light] after he makes 1 post saying he isn't guilty.

Amber[light]
Has tried to play the contributing mafia, writing walls of text with generic advice. When it's down to him or Coag dieing today he suggest to help bandwagon coag, I have played scumteam with coag and he is not afraid to let his team bus him. Frantic last minute vote switching resulting in a tie.

GMarshal
Has been hiding well, I was unsure if it was him, GGQ or OriginalName that was the remaining scum. He outted himself to save his team today:

Coag makes 1 post saying he isn't red, and GMarshal changes vote with:
On February 20 2011 07:34 GMarshal wrote:
actually I'm willing to take coag up on that offer, as long as we have his word that he will detonate tomorrow morning against a mafia target (coag has really good scumhunting skills IMO), also if he were scum I dont think he would offer to do so, instead he would probably claim medic.

so instead of that
##Unvote
##Vote OriginalName

He gives no reason for switching to OriginalName, his post is just about Coag. Personally I questioned Coags post, but GMarshal just buys it, and places a more or less random vote without explanation.

Straight after he changes vote again with the following reason:
On February 20 2011 07:50 GMarshal wrote:
To be perfectly honest, my gut says Amber[Light] is scum, and his willingness to lynch jackal, who is almost certainly an overaggressive townie, at this point in the game when we have established that we cannot afford a mislynch makes me really suspicious of him
##Unvote
##Vote Amber[Light]

Decent reason. Coag changes to amber at the same time. Time to sacrifice a team member.

Little later, Amber makes 1 post saying he is innocent. After Coag, GMarshal changes vote with:
On February 20 2011 10:21 GMarshal wrote:
ok, at this point I still think Amber[Light] is most likely scum, but I see GGQ's vote as an attempt at bussing, I don't understand your reasoning at all Coag so you better explain it during the night phase, still though, I'm willing to go with it on the suspicion that you have a logical reason for doing this.

Actually no one tired to defend Amber which is pretty indicative of a townie being bandwagoned, i think I get your reasoning Coag, although I still suspect Amber[Light] of being scum

##Unvote
##Vote GGQ

WHAT A SHITTY REASON. 1) GGQ was just a number of people switching to amber, 2) If anyone is bandwagoning it's GMarshal himself.

This is the last minute vote switching mafia does when they can't find it in them to properly bus their team mate. I myself am bad at letting my team mates die. But this is typical behavior for a pretty new mafia player.

GMarshal has managed to lay low really well so far, but eratic vote switching like this when his teammates was on the chopping block gives him away.


Tomorrow at 11:00 KST i'll prove you wrong about that if you are that convinced, however allow me to point out that erratic vote switching is my modus operandi always, weather scum or town, usually the sign of a scum player is firm votes but wishy-washy arguments.


I look forward to it. Coag too.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 20 2011 07:07 GMT
#378
Shouldn't you be blowing up before you get lynched? I'm not beyond reason, point out where I'm wrong?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 20 2011 07:44 GMT
#380
Well looking over it again it does seem like the most suspecious votes was done by Darmousseh and Amber[light] at .59 . Both of them stacking on you coag. I might have been wrong.

That would leave Darmousseh and Amber and possibly ON or GGQ as the scumteam?

But keep the fucking game in the thread. If you harass me outside I'm done playing with you.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 20 2011 09:35 GMT
#381
Timeline

5 hours remaining.
Amber[light] (2): Jackal, deconduo
Coagulation (4): GGQ, Barundar, Darmousseh, GMarshal
Jackal58 (1): Amber[light]
No lynch: (1): OriginalName

Coagulation comes online posts 3 suspects. Amber bandwagon by coag, gmarshal, darmousseh and ggq

1 hour remaining
Amber[light] (6): Jackal, deconduo, Coagulation, GMarshal, Darmousseh and GGQ
Coagulation (1): Barundar
Jackal58 (1): Amber[light]
No lynch (1): OriginalName

Coagulation starts GGQ bandwagon. GMarshal joins. Amber talks for lynching Jackal, then Darmousseh over ggq. Jackal joins the GGQ bandwagon. GGQ defends himself.

~½ hour remaining
Amber[light] (3): deconduo, Darmousseh, GGQ
GGQ (3): Coagulation, GMarshal, Jackal58
Coagulation (1): Barundar
Jackal58 (1): Amberlight[light]
No lynch (1): OriginalName

Darmousseh and Amber[light] does a .59 minute switch to coagulation.

final tally
Amber[light] (2): deconduo, GGQ
GGQ (3): Coagulation, GMarshal, Jackal58
Coagulation (3): Barundar, Amber[light], Darmousseh
No lynch (1): OriginalName

GGQ thinks he is lynched and tries to vote Coag to save himself. Amber tries unvoting coag, either to save GGQ or to save Coagulation.


I see 3 possible scenarios:
1) Fist possibility I listed above, with Amber trying to undo his vote to save coag, leaving Coag, Gmarshal and Amber[light] as scumteam. Looking over it I must admit it looks unlikely that coag and Gmarshal should be on team with Amber[light]

2a) Other possibility is Amber[light] last minute saving GGQ with Darmousseh. Really the votes was tied so Amber didn’t have to switch to save GGQ, unless he knew Darmousseh was switching as well. Darmousseh voted after Amber[light], so one explanation could be Amber[light] and Darmousseh switching at the same time to even up votes. This is however very unlikely, considering Amber afterwards was under the impression GGQ was going to die.

2b) Last option still assumes Amber switches to save GGQ, not Coagulation. It is very possible that Amber[light] didn’t know Darmousseh was going to switch. Darmousseh made a post 2 min before his vote, so it looks like he just came back to check the thread, and decided a lynch was better than no lynch. This means Amber tried to remove his vote to save GGQ alone, without any agreements with Darmousseh. This seems the most likely, considering both GGQ and Amber[light] was under the impression that GGQ was going to die.

I guess the most obvious conclusion is option 2b). 1) seems unlikely when both GMarshal and Coagulation would volunteer to blow up Amber[light]. 2a) is unlikely considering how both Amber and GGQ thinks that GGQ is going to get lynched with Darmousseh's switch. Option 2b) makes perfect sense if Amber and GGQ is on a scumteam together, and their remaining member was inactive at the time.

My guess on a scum team would then be Amber[light], GGQ and OriginalName.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 20 2011 10:50 GMT
#384
Doesn't make sense coag. Darmousseh would have killed GGQ by changing vote to you if Amber[light] hadn't changed at same time.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 21 2011 08:58 GMT
#459
Worst was town inactivity, in a very short game you can't post so little. I could see my post as the last 1 for a whole day with no comments.

And ugh at waking up to the no lynch. GMarshal and Jackal sheeping after coag.

Anyways gg, wish I had had the guts to blow up amber day 1
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 21 2011 22:11 GMT
#465
Too short for town imo. Not enough time to analyse.
Bartundar
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