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So last night the following happened:
1) Mafia hit Foolishness, LA, LSB. LSB shot bumatlarge. LSB was medic protected. LA is vet.
2) Mafia hit Foolishness, LA, bumatlarge. LSB is lying about being vig. LA is vet.
3) Mafia hit Foolishness, bumatlarge. LSB, LA lying.
4) Something I'm missing.
If it is situation 1 or 2, why would mafia hit LA?
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@LSB
-Why did you lie about hitting LA -Why did you not claim hit earlier -Did LA actually get hit?
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On March 06 2011 05:47 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2011 04:52 chaoser wrote: I just want to say that this is win win for town, if LSB is red then we have the rest of the red team. If LSB is vigi then we have pretty much a confirmed townie and we can all claim if we decide that's the wisest choice and work from there. If DT/cops are still alive we can narrow down the suspects like whoa. Lemme rain on your collective parades. 1. LSB is town 2. LSB is vigi. 3. LSB shot bumatlarge not LA. 4. I am speaking for one of our medics. 5. LSB was hit on the last night cycle. 6. LSB is protecting LA for reasons that none of us in the circle truly understand. 7. LSB believes LA to be town. That is his belief alone. I am not defending LA. 8. Nobody in our circle is defending LA. 9. I cannot name any of the others in our circle without throwing medics and others to the wolves. I will not do that. Do not ask Gryff. I will not answer. 10. I have been in contact with people that were in a circle with Foolishness. !!. Their scum list matches ours on 3 out of 4 names. There are 2 ways you guys can confirm some of this. 1 - Continue with you lynch of LSB. He is a vigi. This will provide absolutely no info on LA. Will only let you know that I'm not bullshitting you. 2 - Lynch me. You get a vanilla townie. And no other useful information. Both options are anti-town. We need all the townies we can get no matter if they are lucid or not. Lynch Chaoser.
How did you come to the 'Lynch Chaoser' conclusion from this post. Whether or not the rest of it is true, you have a really annoying habit of making large leaps in logic and not explaining them.
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And everyone goes silent. Why did I have to check the thread just before I went to bed...
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On March 06 2011 09:32 CubEdIn wrote: because you're european. joke's on you lolololololol.
I don't know what to do if people don't talk to me. This feels like a huuuuge endgame play by mafia but I just don't know.
There's been no analysis done on chaoser as far as I can see. Ser Aspi is hanging the entire case against him on a single post. From what I can see, Jackal has done no analysis and just voted chaoser out of the blue. Theres so much behind the scenes stuff going on, you can't expect me to just say 'I trust you' and go along with it. Give me something.
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On March 06 2011 09:38 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2011 09:20 deconduo wrote:On March 06 2011 05:47 Jackal58 wrote:On March 06 2011 04:52 chaoser wrote: I just want to say that this is win win for town, if LSB is red then we have the rest of the red team. If LSB is vigi then we have pretty much a confirmed townie and we can all claim if we decide that's the wisest choice and work from there. If DT/cops are still alive we can narrow down the suspects like whoa. Lemme rain on your collective parades. 1. LSB is town 2. LSB is vigi. 3. LSB shot bumatlarge not LA. 4. I am speaking for one of our medics. 5. LSB was hit on the last night cycle. 6. LSB is protecting LA for reasons that none of us in the circle truly understand. 7. LSB believes LA to be town. That is his belief alone. I am not defending LA. 8. Nobody in our circle is defending LA. 9. I cannot name any of the others in our circle without throwing medics and others to the wolves. I will not do that. Do not ask Gryff. I will not answer. 10. I have been in contact with people that were in a circle with Foolishness. !!. Their scum list matches ours on 3 out of 4 names. There are 2 ways you guys can confirm some of this. 1 - Continue with you lynch of LSB. He is a vigi. This will provide absolutely no info on LA. Will only let you know that I'm not bullshitting you. 2 - Lynch me. You get a vanilla townie. And no other useful information. Both options are anti-town. We need all the townies we can get no matter if they are lucid or not. Lynch Chaoser. How did you come to the 'Lynch Chaoser' conclusion from this post. Whether or not the rest of it is true, you have a really annoying habit of making large leaps in logic and not explaining them. Read this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191888¤tpage=86#1706
LSB - 8 Barundar gryffindor deconduo why chaoser kevconsim GMarshal ohN
All these voted for you. Why focus on chaoser?
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@LSB, Jackal whoever. I'm up in 6 hours, I need my sleep. You have 10 minutes to convince me to vote for chaoser, otherwise it goes back on LSB. I'm sorry but next time you want to make a big fuckoff play like this, town or mafia, don't do it 4 hours before the deadline.
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On March 06 2011 09:54 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2011 09:39 GMarshal wrote: Alright, take a good look at lsb, he has been lying all game. That is by definition not town play. While his bait and switch plan *looks* good its actually entirely inconclusive and proves nothing at all, all it did was derail town discussion with lies and try to protect LA from being lynched.
LSB is most likely scum, lynch him IM THE MEDIC I MEDIC PROT HIM LAST NIGHT AND BLOCKED A HIT. LSB IS CONFIRMED TOWN.
Ok. Why is chaoser mafia?
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On March 06 2011 09:58 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2011 09:41 deconduo wrote:On March 06 2011 09:38 LSB wrote:On March 06 2011 09:20 deconduo wrote:On March 06 2011 05:47 Jackal58 wrote:On March 06 2011 04:52 chaoser wrote: I just want to say that this is win win for town, if LSB is red then we have the rest of the red team. If LSB is vigi then we have pretty much a confirmed townie and we can all claim if we decide that's the wisest choice and work from there. If DT/cops are still alive we can narrow down the suspects like whoa. Lemme rain on your collective parades. 1. LSB is town 2. LSB is vigi. 3. LSB shot bumatlarge not LA. 4. I am speaking for one of our medics. 5. LSB was hit on the last night cycle. 6. LSB is protecting LA for reasons that none of us in the circle truly understand. 7. LSB believes LA to be town. That is his belief alone. I am not defending LA. 8. Nobody in our circle is defending LA. 9. I cannot name any of the others in our circle without throwing medics and others to the wolves. I will not do that. Do not ask Gryff. I will not answer. 10. I have been in contact with people that were in a circle with Foolishness. !!. Their scum list matches ours on 3 out of 4 names. There are 2 ways you guys can confirm some of this. 1 - Continue with you lynch of LSB. He is a vigi. This will provide absolutely no info on LA. Will only let you know that I'm not bullshitting you. 2 - Lynch me. You get a vanilla townie. And no other useful information. Both options are anti-town. We need all the townies we can get no matter if they are lucid or not. Lynch Chaoser. How did you come to the 'Lynch Chaoser' conclusion from this post. Whether or not the rest of it is true, you have a really annoying habit of making large leaps in logic and not explaining them. Read this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191888¤tpage=86#1706 LSB - 8Barundar gryffindor deconduo why chaoser kevconsim GMarshal ohN All these voted for you. Why focus on chaoser? Read the analysis. The thing with Chaoser is he already wrote a long detailed analysis on LA. But at the same time, immediately abandoned it and took the bait. This is not townie play. This is mafia trying to kill the better player play. If he was townie, he'd actually believe his analysis of LA, and stuck with it instead of jumping
Given the situation, his logic made sense. Lynching you gives more information than lynching LA given what was known. I would not do the same thing as its essentially lynching for information. I want to lynch you because you are all over the place.
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Fuck fuck fuck fuck. Sometimes I hate these games.
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On March 06 2011 10:04 LSB wrote: Gmarshal, you seriously think 3/4 of the scum team would just now claim to support me?
If this play wins you the game, yes.
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I know I'm going to cry when I read this in the morning.
LSB, LA, Cubed, Jackal. For posterity.
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Well, that was lucky. I hoped that you had a DT check on chaoser or something which is how you were so convinced. I really thought that analysis was weak, but considering that there was 5 involved I knew not all of you could be mafia and the gamble paid off
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I'm pretty sure gryffindor is town, JBright or LD are two people that people seem to have forgotten about somewhat after day 3. I know there are two votes for LD but there isn't any discussion about it really, just that 'he might be GF' While I'd be less suspicious of JBright over the suicide thing, doesn't mean he's cleared at all.
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On March 08 2011 09:05 GMarshal wrote:Well JBright is dead, you can feel free to try to kill him again if you please though
-_-
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On March 08 2011 09:06 Coagulation wrote: hes gonna be modkilled. dont waste vote on him.
##Vote:oHn
Hardcore lurker, hasn't voted for a mafia, some longish posts that don't really say anything.
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oHn
+ Show Spoiler +On February 23 2011 19:21 ohN wrote:'Just finished catching up My thoughts: Cells are a good idea but GMarshal giving us predetermined groups that he thinks we should work with is pretty scummy. They weren't just like 1-3, 4-6 either, he moved them around to his liking. Not a good candidate for day1 lynch because I don't feel that that alone is enough to incriminate him but definitely FoS on him. I dont see how people think + Show Spoiler +On February 23 2011 12:40 chaoser wrote: Ok, so like Gmarshal said, we shouldn't depend on blues this game. Especially since RoL specifically said this game was to punish us for what happened in Salam. At the same thing, I don't think the mafia powers are all THAT powerful. Let them frame away, that's one less death to worry about. PMs are allowed but PLEASE don't just give out crazy info in them (roleclaim, etc.). The point of town is not to have 1 leader controlling everything but small circles that are separated so that if one goes down, the others can still operate. Let's all work together and not let a few players handle all the work (which always seems to happen). This means contributing pleaseee. is scummy. Him noting that mafia isn't that powerful is something anybody could point out. Role reversal has huge potential but only if mafia has a confirmed blue. They still have to give up an entire kp to use it so they will not be open to using it without being absolutely sure. Role reversal on a townie does nothing except waste a kp. I'll probably end up voting for someone who hasn't posted anything useful or that guy who thought annul was inactive(lol). I thought that post wasn't too scummy either, but he did defend chaoser.
On February 25 2011 10:26 ohN wrote:Icemac is probably town. Bad d1 lynch target. Looks more like a bad/aggressive player than scum. I'm still not convinced annul is a good lynch. Show nested quote +On February 25 2011 07:25 LSB wrote: Storytime! Why Annul was an easy read in XXXV 1) He mad up stuff and pushed stuff that didn't exist Check, this game he's pushing GMarshal, saying GMarshal is clear mafia, although there is literally nothing in his accusation 2) Besides responses, he posted nothing else Look at Annul's posts. How many of his posts deal with things other than Gmarshal or defending himself? I can't find any. Annul's not pushing GM that hard, he simply pointed out that GM had a bad idea and is calling him out on it. I don't think he ever said "GM is clear mafia." GM DID propose an arguably terrible plan; how come nobody else is calling him out for that? Annul's not looking any more scum than GM here in my eyes. Barundar's accusation of Jackal is definitely not convincing but it's not utter crap either. It's an interesting point to look back to in the near future. Slight FoS on Jackal imo. And finally, why is gryff not getting lynched? Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 15:20 gryffindor wrote: the HOST actually told me it was a good idea. Blatant lie here. Show nested quote +On February 23 2011 17:26 gryffindor wrote:On February 23 2011 13:19 GMarshal wrote: for arguments sake going to create analysis cells, use them for informational analysis (even assuming I were scum there is no way) I could ensure each has a mafia member in it as there isn't enough mafia to go around (I am trying to put at least 1 TL vet in each) as the game progresses and people die we can have new cells form. (also you are free to create your own parallel cells)
1. Coagulation, LSB, gryffindor 2 GMarshal, seRapH, OriginalName 3 Mr. Wiggles, ICanFlyLow, kevconsim 4 Barundar, LastArgument , why 5 darmousseh, Ser Aspi, Kenpachi 6 Gofarman, chaoser, ohN 7 astroorion, CubEdIn, Jackal58 8 Beneather, annul, Conversion 9 icemac, Foolishness, LunarDestiny 10 deconduo, kitaman27, JBright
This is just a suggestion, but I think it is a good one, discuss
This would get us raped by the role reverser, and is really a scummy idea unvote; ##Vote: GMarshal Show nested quote +On February 24 2011 22:14 gryffindor wrote:Cell 1, Cell leader: Coagulation + Show Spoiler + 1. 5. Jackal58 2. 17. astroorion 3. 1. Coagulation Cell 2, Cell leader: kitaman27 + Show Spoiler + 4. 19. Gofarman 5. 21. kitaman27 6. 12. icemac Cell 3, Cell leader: IDC, they're all competant + Show Spoiler + 7. 6. Kenpachi 8. 2. LSB 9. 26. LunarDestiny Cell 4, Cell leader: Barundar + Show Spoiler + 10. 30. LastArgument 11. 3. Barundar 12. 9. gryffindor Cell 5, Cell leader: deconduo + Show Spoiler + 13. 16. ohN 14. 28. deconduo 15. 8. annul Cell 6, Cell leader: Foolishness + Show Spoiler + 16. 18. Foolishness 17. 27. Ser Aspi 18. 22. kevconsim Cell 7, Cell leader: Seraph/Mr. Wiggles + Show Spoiler +19. 11. Beneather 20. 15. seRapH 21. 24. Mr. Wiggles Cell 8, Cell leader: OriginalName + Show Spoiler + 22. 14. JBright 23. 23. ICanFlyLow 24. 13. OriginalName Cell 9, Cell leader: Chaoser + Show Spoiler + 25. 7. darmousseh 26. 25. chaoser 27. 20. Conversion MaxwellE Cell 10, Cell leader: Cubedin + Show Spoiler +28. 4. CubEdIn 29. 29. why 30. 10. GMarshal
Now, the "leader" to me is someone who needs to go out of their way to actually collaborate with the other people in their group. If you don't want to use my list of cells, and want to use GMarshal's, whatever. I have a good list I just made right here ready for us to use. Basically, the leaders need to go out of their way to make this work. I am fully confident in these peoples abilities to report what is going on within your cell, and to hold people accountable. Wait what. ##Vote: gryffindor Defends annulOn February 26 2011 08:46 ohN wrote: Woah annul was mafia? o.O Somehow, I didn't expect that...
I'll put in more analysis once day2 hits, doesn't seem worth it to type up my thoughts at the moment when day2 results could just turn them all sideways. Doesn't keep promise, never gave more analysisOn February 28 2011 09:35 ohN wrote: Wow, a lot happened when I was gone. I still don't understand why we're voting icemac. He doesn't look scummy at all. Like, yeah, he posted about 0 analysis and opinion but that holds true for a lot of other people too. 'Just looks like a scapegoat that mafia are trying to redirect lynches too.
Between LSB and Barundar I doubt either of them are mafia. If one of them is, it's LSB. Can't really say why I think that and there's so many pages that I just read but yeah, that's my take on the situation.
So, who to vote for.. I still think gryff is suspicious, although that might just be because of his weird playstyle. I'd rather have gryff lynched than icemac to be honest. Reading through, Foolishness's post like 2-3 above this has a good point and since I don't think LSB/Barundar/icemac are mafia, there goes my vote.
##Vote: LunarDestiny Still don't know of LD is scum or not, but considering he's getting modkilled today I dunno. Defends icemac again, but its easy to defend the person who the wagon is on as mafia so you can say 'Hey look I was right he's town'On March 03 2011 11:43 ohN wrote: Oh man i was so busy these past few days and i completely forgot i was playing. D: ##Vote: ohN
Sorry, I'll catch up asap. Except never caught up. More empty promises.On March 05 2011 17:38 ohN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2011 12:48 LSB wrote: Again, I think we should just suggest night 3 actions
Medics, please protect Me and Foolishness. Vigs, if you want, you should shoot Barundar. There isn't enough on Gmarshal to justify a kill. DTs, continue checking Priority 3 people Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 05:22 LSB wrote: I claim vig. I shot LA last night after reading Foolishness's analysis. lol Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 07:16 LSB wrote: Um... why would I shoot Barundar if another vig was going to do it? If it weren't for this post, I'd be a bit more hesitant. ##Vote: LSBIf he's red, LA is red, Barundar is green, and there's a huge paper trail left to re-analyze. Honestly sounds like a good lynch. Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 08:14 GMarshal wrote: then why the hell didn't you shoot me last night? nice OMGUS by the way I call you out on being the godfather and thus I must be red, I'll offer you a deal though, if you 100% believe me to be red then I'll hang today as long as you agree to hang tomorrow. If you are that sure that I am scum then it should sound like a wonderful deal to you, if you are scum then you'll come up with some brilliant theory why this is a scumplan.
My only condition is if you want to take me up on this the entire town has to agree to hang you tomorrow Are we still at the point where we can afford to use lynches like this? Bad post? Again to be fair, the situation was messy. Still another wrong vote...On March 07 2011 14:24 ohN wrote:Lol I'm lurking so hardcore this game. =P Show nested quote +On March 07 2011 12:24 LSB wrote:Voting analysisRight now I'm concerned about setting up for lylo. I'd rather not have lylo be filled with people who don't care, so lets take a look at the inactives/scummy players right now. kevconsim/gryffindor/ohN Lets look at how they voted What it means to be on the wrong sides of a lynch + Show Spoiler +(day 1)= This means the person did not vote for Annul Day 1 (day 2)= The person did not vote for Seraph Day 3 (day 3)= The person did not vote for Chaoser Day 4
(unvoted)= bandwagoned a wrong side of the lynch Please note, although posting record is normally unreliable, it is an effective tool to root out lurking mafia. gryffindor- (unvoted day 1) (day 4) kevconsim- (unvoted day 3) (unvoted day 4) ohN- (day 1) (day 3) (day 4) Check this out, ohN was on the wrong side of the lynchs for all three days evaluated. In addition, he's been lurking a lot. Lurking mafia caught? Uh, me not voting annul day1? There was a semi-strong case against him but honestly, I'm not sure anybody really expected him to turn out to be red until he openly admitted it before he died. I voted for gryff for his erratic posting behavior. Me not voting seraph is completely my fault for being inactive. Not voting chaoser? I still don't understand wtf happened. Like LSB looked so scummy and then like turned the tables so hard and chaoser turned out to be red, it was like magic. Oh yeah, and I didn't hop on the icemac wagon. He didn't look scummy at all. I seriously thought LSB looked scummy as hell but now, I have just have no f-ing idea. Maybe I'm just too noob for this game. Pulls the noob card finally when under pressure.
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At the behest of coag
##Unvote ##Vote Gryffindor
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