EPTTL Mafia XXXVII - Page 45
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On February 26 2011 12:10 Coagulation wrote: you can still be a winner wiggles we can still win this for town Town will win this. I hate losing. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + The following need to step up their game: Gofarman - 8 posts astroorion - 3 posts JBright - 4 posts ICanFlyLow - 2 posts ohN - 3 posts why - 6 posts CubEdIn - 6 posts LastArgument - 7 posts Fewer that 10 posts this far in is inexcusable. Cubed I know you can do better than that. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
I just asked RoL how the KP works to try and figure out how many mafia there are and he said mafia can round up. Assuming 6 mafia like people mentioned before, 5 left, that's 1+/5x4 = 3 KP. That means they can still kill 3 and have .5KP left over to frame/cover. 100% DON'T CLAIM if you've found a townie or a vet, it's too risky, they could be GF or covered. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On February 26 2011 12:46 chaoser wrote: LISTEN TO GM'S PART ABOUT CLAIMING! DONT CLAIM!! I just asked RoL how the KP works to try and figure out how many mafia there are and he said mafia can round up. Assuming 6 mafia like people mentioned before, 5 left, that's 1+/5x4 = 3 KP. That means they can still kill 3 and have .5KP left over to frame/cover. 100% DON'T CLAIM if you've found a townie or a vet, it's too risky, they could be GF or covered. Unless of course you're gryffinder. Then by all means claim some thing else. ##VOTE: Gryffindor | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 6am flights are a biiiiiiiiittttttcccchhhhh ----- via kp setup covers are unlikely but don't claim anyways. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
On February 26 2011 12:48 Jackal58 wrote: Unless of course you're gryffinder. Then by all means claim some thing else. ##VOTE: Gryffindor ##Vote: Jackal58 I was on the Annul wagon, a wagon on mafia. Were you? I didn't think so. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On February 26 2011 17:37 gryffindor wrote: ##Vote: Jackal58 I was on the Annul wagon, a wagon on mafia. Were you? I didn't think so. Its called bussing, its a basic scum strategy to appear pro-town by, when the lynch of a team mate appears probable or inevitable jumping on the wagon. I shouldn't need to tell an experienced player like you this gryff, the fact that people were wrong in thinking annul was town does not make them scum, and conversely voting for him does not make you town. allow me to ask, do you still stand by your vet claim? I won't quibble about your sarcasm or lack thereof. it looks like a OMGUS vote to me, and your reasoning is weak to say the least, as this single vote can be quite revealing but it alone in no way makes a case against someone. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Coagulation
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Lying, scummy etc. If your only defense is 'I voted annul' you are going to need something a lot better. Even your 'vote' for him was scummy. | ||
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seRapH
United States9776 Posts
Hopefully I'll be sober enough to drop in and read stuff. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
I haven't ever bussed someone on teamliquid; it isn't how mafia is played here. If you expect people to be bussing, you are playing very poorly as town. Would I really go out of my way to push the lynch of my mafia buddy? Would said mafia buddy THEN counterpush me? Who have I had interactions with that would look like my scumbuddies? IF I am lynched, this is a very laughable town Annul had associative tells with both GMarshal and Icemac, both of whom we should pursue lynches on, but you all are so hurt that someone is a better player than you, you can't get over the fact that OMGUS/bussing is just senselessly being thrown at me when both aren't relevant to this particular scenario. The OMGUS relatedness isn't relevant because some OMGUS is very-town, especially when the goal of it is to point out that I'm part of the reason why Annul got lynched. Apart from GMarshal or IceMac, Seraph would also be a good lynch from my perspective, due to the recent post he made sounding like goading/fake-sincerity regarding the medic/cop snipe, and considering his excuse for lurking in the same post... well, it just reads forced and overly defensive. GMarshal looks like Annul's buddy to me, because Annul gave him a casual FoS in a post that he failed to try make look real, followed by voting someone else. It was way past where the RVS should end, and it was a lackluster post saying "Well, i'd lynch gmarshal or ___". He listed GMarshal first, talked about him like he was suspicious, then failed to vote him, voting someone else. Now, I see I have a few votes on me now, so unvote If you're unfamiliar with me, go read Orgah mafia. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=186653 I am a Serial Killer in this game, and obviously scum. I say obviously, because my play there as scum is contrasted with how I am playing in this game. In that game, I was generally unhelpful, lurking, and inactive. This game, I am very active, and dedicated to the town teching up  thanks guys, love you all | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
-Comparing your own playstyles means nothing. Also SK is played differently than mafia. -Saying 'I would do this, I wouldn't do that' means nothing. -You lied, you haven't explained why you lied. I do not agree with LAL, but if you go and do something and then not give any explanation or reasoning behind it I'm going to keep my vote on you. @Others -GMarshal, I feel you gotta step up. It looks like you tried to save annul near the end. -Coag, want to explain that vote? I've been suspicious of you all game and that doesn't help -Kenpachi, Ser Aspi, JBright I want to hear more from you. -Ohn, why, LastArgument;I know you are newer players but I think you've been playing well enough so far. You should post your opinions a bit more if possible. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On February 26 2011 12:20 Jackal58 wrote: Because it needs repeating. + Show Spoiler + The following need to step up their game: Gofarman - 8 posts astroorion - 3 posts JBright - 4 posts ICanFlyLow - 2 posts ohN - 3 posts why - 6 posts CubEdIn - 6 posts LastArgument - 7 posts Fewer that 10 posts this far in is inexcusable. Cubed I know you can do better than that. I concur @ICanFlyLow I understand it's a little intimidating to see 20+ pages of discussion and whatnot, but you need to post a bit more. By a bit more I mean A LOT more. A very easy way to do that is to go to someone's post, click profile, click his postcount and then open all his posts for this game and read through them and then analyse what they have said. Pretty simple. Currently you have....2 posts. @Gofarman He's looking for a replacement, don't know what's going to happen here @ohN Although he's posted very little, they're pretty good posts by themselves. + Show Spoiler + On February 23 2011 19:21 ohN wrote: 'Just finished catching up My thoughts: Cells are a good idea but GMarshal giving us predetermined groups that he thinks we should work with is pretty scummy. They weren't just like 1-3, 4-6 either, he moved them around to his liking. Not a good candidate for day1 lynch because I don't feel that that alone is enough to incriminate him but definitely FoS on him. I dont see how people think + Show Spoiler + On February 23 2011 12:40 chaoser wrote: Ok, so like Gmarshal said, we shouldn't depend on blues this game. Especially since RoL specifically said this game was to punish us for what happened in Salam. At the same thing, I don't think the mafia powers are all THAT powerful. Let them frame away, that's one less death to worry about. PMs are allowed but PLEASE don't just give out crazy info in them (roleclaim, etc.). The point of town is not to have 1 leader controlling everything but small circles that are separated so that if one goes down, the others can still operate. Let's all work together and not let a few players handle all the work (which always seems to happen). This means contributing pleaseee. Him noting that mafia isn't that powerful is something anybody could point out. Role reversal has huge potential but only if mafia has a confirmed blue. They still have to give up an entire kp to use it so they will not be open to using it without being absolutely sure. Role reversal on a townie does nothing except waste a kp. I'll probably end up voting for someone who hasn't posted anything useful or that guy who thought annul was inactive(lol). and + Show Spoiler + On February 25 2011 10:26 ohN wrote: Icemac is probably town. Bad d1 lynch target. Looks more like a bad/aggressive player than scum. I'm still not convinced annul is a good lynch. Annul's not pushing GM that hard, he simply pointed out that GM had a bad idea and is calling him out on it. I don't think he ever said "GM is clear mafia." GM DID propose an arguably terrible plan; how come nobody else is calling him out for that? Annul's not looking any more scum than GM here in my eyes. Barundar's accusation of Jackal is definitely not convincing but it's not utter crap either. It's an interesting point to look back to in the near future. Slight FoS on Jackal imo. And finally, why is gryff not getting lynched? Blatant lie here. Wait what. ##Vote: gryffindor | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
At the same time it’s clear from the night hits that we have at least 1 experienced analysist on the scum team. The only really experienced players in the game are LSB and Foolishness. LSB is the most suspicious of the 2. He wasn’t the first to get suspicious of annul, or to call him out on his bad play, but he tried to take full credit for the lynch, asking for medic protection instantly. This is exactly how a mafia who has just bussed his team mate will act. LSB had a possible scumslip to boot: For example, in PM gryffindor just defended Iceman/annul. When annul flips red this will prove very useful information. Foolishness on the other hand voted annul to pressure him. He later changed his vote to pressure seraph, and left it there until the lynch. If I was mafia buddy with annul I would have left my vote on him to get town cred or to try and save him. FoS LSB | ||
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