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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 03:15 GMT
#422
On February 05 2011 12:14 chaoser wrote:
GL town, lynch me. and then lynch Darm after, I'm the medic.

smart stuff
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 03:19 GMT
#428
shut up no one counterclaim or do anything just lynch chaoser
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 03:21 GMT
#432
Don't counterclaim. I'm waiting on information that would confirm Chaoser. We could skip lynching him and just straight up lynch darmousseh instead. Depends on the information I get. Try to refrain from saying anything dumb/rash in the meantime. (meaning you kenpachi)
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 03:21 GMT
#434
On February 05 2011 12:21 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 12:20 chaoser wrote:
I just said not to counterclaim -_-

where

just dont its completely 100% unnecessary.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 03:22 GMT
#436
On February 05 2011 12:21 chaoser wrote:
Man, Dr H really thinks I'm mafia =X. Be in for a surprise when I flip. Seriously trying to help town here lol.

I said I'm waiting on information that can confirm your story. I still think you're full of it but I trust the facts and if the facts fall the right way I want darmousseh dead and there will be good reason for that too.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 03:23 GMT
#438
On February 05 2011 12:23 chaoser wrote:
No no, lynch me. I don't know how you could 100% confirm I'm medic but it's a bad idea I tihnk, go ahead with the plan and go for either Node or Darmousseh

If you don't know then don't say it's a bad idea just fucking wait.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 03:26 GMT
#440
On February 05 2011 12:24 chaoser wrote:
whatever -_-, dont gotta be an aggressive douche...no need to add in fucking...

sorry

i'll explode your collar for criticizing me!
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 03:32 GMT
#444
On February 05 2011 12:30 shannn wrote:
Surprising. No need to discuss anything. Everyone who voted for chaoser should know that the first one mentioned will be lynched.

If Chaoser flips green then we'll deal with it. There's no point in arguing for anyone about this day's lynch.
The deadline can't come fast enough tbh.


There is a situation that would almost 100% clear Chaoser. If that turns out then we can avoid a probably innocent lynch. Have some faith.

I think he's lying to cause second thoughts but he could be sincere. We'll see.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 04:48 GMT
#448
On February 05 2011 13:45 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 12:14 chaoser wrote:
GL town, lynch me. and then lynch Darm after, I'm the medic.


Why the heck would a medic ever claim being a medic if they were about to be lynched? That would be giving the mafia information and free reign to kill whomever they please with fear of being blocked by the medic. If you are really the medic then claiming to be medic is the worst possible thing you could do to help us win. If you are a medic and truly have the best interest of town in mind, then it's better to claim green or claim vet.

The only scenario you could possibly want to do this is if there is a small chance you can influence the lynch otherwise and if you were a vet in order to soak up the next hit from mafia.

Given that this situation is highly unlikely, i'm now highly confident node is green and that you are mafia and am glad we won't have to waste a lynch on node or I.




Defeatist attitude I guess. Kenpachi did the same thing in Salem Mafia and it was really dumb, he was killed right afterward.

This does give me the opportunity to see if he is telling the truth or not. He'll die in the night regardless if he's mafia but we can at least forgo wasting a lynch. Still waiting for my response though.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 04:48 GMT
#449
##Unvote Chaoser
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 04:51 GMT
#451
On February 05 2011 13:50 Kenpachi wrote:
oh now we decide to go my way
##Unvote Chaoser
##vote Kenpachi

yo dude i think Kenpachi has been spouting random shit and his contributed jackshit
+ Show Spoiler +
no its not sarcasm just being as protown as possible

what
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 05:51 GMT
#455
On February 05 2011 13:53 Kenpachi wrote:
ionno, i dont want to vote for either darmousseh or Node :l

no shit i don't know anything yet that's why i don't want to vote for anyone
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 05:52 GMT
#456
On February 05 2011 14:49 Node wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2011 13:45 darmousseh wrote:
On February 05 2011 12:14 chaoser wrote:
GL town, lynch me. and then lynch Darm after, I'm the medic.


Why the heck would a medic ever claim being a medic if they were about to be lynched? That would be giving the mafia information and free reign to kill whomever they please with fear of being blocked by the medic. If you are really the medic then claiming to be medic is the worst possible thing you could do to help us win. If you are a medic and truly have the best interest of town in mind, then it's better to claim green or claim vet.

The only scenario you could possibly want to do this is if there is a small chance you can influence the lynch otherwise and if you were a vet in order to soak up the next hit from mafia.

Given that this situation is highly unlikely, i'm now highly confident node is green and that you are mafia and am glad we won't have to waste a lynch on node or I.




To be fair, medic is the one role in this game that is a) provable and b) especially worth thinking about saving. If chaoser is trying to save his ass, it's worth a shot.

If DrH really thinks it's possible to confirm chaoser, I'll highly consider following along. I haven't thought of a scenario where this would be possible, though.

Of course, the other scenario is that both DrH and chaoser are mafia, in which case, wowza.

In the end, I think the safer option is to lynch chaoser. It'll suck if we lose a medic, but if he flips mafia it heavily implicates DrH. His play is incredibly ballsy for that to be the case, but it's a situation where it would definitely take balls to pull out alive.

Hahaha i suck so much dick at being mafia i don't know why people think im good at it

every time im mafia i get lynched really early except for that one mini game which I one

Chaoser revealed way too much information. It's a pretty simple check if you think about it.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 05:52 GMT
#457
and no it doesn't involve a medic claim
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 20:52 GMT
#459
Well, in any case, I believe Chaoser is the medic now.

If he was mafia he would have gone off of revealed post information and told a different story but he didn't which makes me inclined to believe he is telling the truth. I'm voting for Darmousseh and then I'd like to lynch Shann.

##Vote Darmousseh

Your post is stupid Shann because it assumes Chaoser is 100% mafia. If we lynch Chaoser and he is town, we're in the same shitty position that we are in if we lynch Darmousseh and he's town. There is really no difference between the two.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 20:59 GMT
#461
On February 06 2011 05:58 GMarshal wrote:
I dont believe that deviating from the plan is a good idea right now, I'm going to go with lynching Chaoser and if he flips town then lynching Darmousseh, sorry Dr.H but as you said earlier its a bad idea to deviate from the plan

Do what you want but I'm going to vote for what I believe is the best move regardless.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 21:55 GMT
#464
On February 06 2011 06:54 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 05:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 06 2011 05:58 GMarshal wrote:
I dont believe that deviating from the plan is a good idea right now, I'm going to go with lynching Chaoser and if he flips town then lynching Darmousseh, sorry Dr.H but as you said earlier its a bad idea to deviate from the plan

Do what you want but I'm going to vote for what I believe is the best move regardless.

I find you so suspicious. You even tell me that we should stick to the plan and now you don't want to stick to the plan AFTER we get chaoser's name when he claims to be a medic.

That's just contradicting yourself. Even Gmarshall says the same as me. It's just bad to not go with the plan which we all agreed upon. Chaoser voted for it and he should've objected against darmousseh's plan.

You even first said that it's unlikely that darmousseh is mafia and now you want to lynch him?!?!?!?

Sorry but you're mafia or just really stupid as town contradicting yourself whole time.


lol
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 23:10 GMT
#476
On February 06 2011 07:49 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 07:29 GMarshal wrote:
On February 06 2011 07:20 darmousseh wrote:
On February 06 2011 07:18 chaoser wrote:
If Dr. H was mafia with me, there's no reason for him to want me alive, this whole game he's wanted me dead, he's been the most vocal about me being mafia. For him to make a switch if both of us were mafia is absurd.


That's a great point. His plan actually sets it up to save node by killing me first followed by killing you. That gives him and node the greatest chance of surviving.


Or you are mafia and this is your game winning plan, lynch chaoser and node and assure your victory. Of course I'm pretty sure that neither you nor Node are mafia, which means chaoser is, but if he flips green...

We all agree that Node is town which is still a risk to do so. Going by this we should lynch darmousseh first if chaoser were to be town. Darmousseh would be stupid to come up with this plan because we all know that Node is the most guaranteed person to be town. So darmousseh that pm'ed drH should probably know this as well and drH as well which makes me very suspicious of drH for knowing everything which is the most worse possible thing as a townie to do. To pm someone who is still unsure of being town.

We should just stick to the plan and go from there. Why change now. It's only smart from mafia to confuse townies. Kenpachi already switched and DrH himself as well only for the sole purpose of saving a medic who wouldn't be of any purpose in the night. If anyone can assure me that saving a medic will result in NO kills in night then sure I'll agree to save chaoser but that's only an option that mafia can decide to.


I switched because I don't think chaoser is mafia. I won't vote for someone who I think isn't mafia so I'm not voting for him.

I'm not going to convince you guys to go along with me, it's obvious chaoser is still going to get lynched but I won't vote for someone who I think is town based on principle. It's ridiculous to say I'm scum because I changed my mind. I voted for Chaoser yesterday, I tried to convince everyone he is scum, and based on new information and evidence I've changed my mind. Same reason I changed my mind about CubEdIn. First impressions are often wrong.

I think Darmousseh pointed out pandain (even went as far as to accuse him in PM to me) thinking they were gonna kill him that night which would clear him. Pandain survived but Chaoser didn't take the obvious bait. If he was a scum fake medic he would have lied and said "Oh, yes I protected Pandain". If there is a counterclaim the mafia could then motion to call out the other as a faker (not too hard to do if you're a skilled manipulator) or claim there are probably two medics.

Darmousseh accused Pandain at a very very late time, it was clear the intention was not to get a lynch bandwagon started. I think that trust was then used to manipulate the puzzle stage. When Chaoser turned up that is a perfect opportunity to abuse town because there was already a lot of distrust about him.

If Chaoser turns up red then that'll ease my mind quite a bit but it'll be very difficult to pinpoint his teammate. I'm not 100% sure (obviously) about Chaoser but I feel more confident that either darmousseh or shann is mafia than him. So I will not vote for Chaoser.

Here's what does strike me as odd about Chaoser and I just realized this a minute ago. If he is the medic why would he say "no one counterclaim?" It's pretty obvious there would be only 1 medic in a game like this as medics will never > mafia KP for balance issues. But he said "no counterclaims". However saying that as mafia doesn't really make sense either I guess. I just found that kinda strange.

I don't think Mafia will kill Chaoser in the night, even if he is the medic. I'll tell you this though. If I die tonight and Darmousseh/Shann flip red down the road, kill the other one please.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 23:12 GMT
#477
On February 06 2011 07:18 chaoser wrote:
If Dr. H was mafia with me, there's no reason for him to want me alive, this whole game he's wanted me dead, he's been the most vocal about me being mafia. For him to make a switch if both of us were mafia is absurd.

no it's absolutely stupid to think that we are a scumteam even considering how much I love buses

i would never ever double bus especially if there is heat on me. i already helped get jackal dead on day 1 when it could have easily been gmarshal or shann. then i tried to get you killed on day 2? people still want me dead, that's too risky.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 05 2011 23:14 GMT
#478
On February 06 2011 07:12 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2011 06:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 06 2011 06:54 shannn wrote:
On February 06 2011 05:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On February 06 2011 05:58 GMarshal wrote:
I dont believe that deviating from the plan is a good idea right now, I'm going to go with lynching Chaoser and if he flips town then lynching Darmousseh, sorry Dr.H but as you said earlier its a bad idea to deviate from the plan

Do what you want but I'm going to vote for what I believe is the best move regardless.

I find you so suspicious. You even tell me that we should stick to the plan and now you don't want to stick to the plan AFTER we get chaoser's name when he claims to be a medic.

That's just contradicting yourself. Even Gmarshall says the same as me. It's just bad to not go with the plan which we all agreed upon. Chaoser voted for it and he should've objected against darmousseh's plan.

You even first said that it's unlikely that darmousseh is mafia and now you want to lynch him?!?!?!?

Sorry but you're mafia or just really stupid as town contradicting yourself whole time.


lol



Lol, you are really a bad mafia DrH if you are mafia. Townies would never be this desperate to deviate from a plan. My guess is that you are going all-in with putting yourself on the line in order to save chaoser or node.

Everyone, i've been going under the assumption that DrH was green for almost the entire game giving him pms and talking strategy in order to find the best method to determine the mafia, releaving my plans before I post in the thread sometimes, but in the end I think he just was bussing his entire team to set himself up as the last mafia in order to try to win. If he can convince you to never kill him or the mafia (node or chaoser) then he has won as mafia.

Stay with the original plan and we win town

If chaoser is red, i recommend lynching DrH next.



This is really bad. I'm not desperate to deviate from the plan. I'm just not voting for Chaoser. That's it. And why does Node have to be the mafia, you assume it can't be darmousseh? That's fucking stupid.

Chaoser is dying anyway, I'm not trying to save him. Let me say this over and over, I'm just voting for the person I suspect most. There is no "desperate attempt" to save chaoser because he's just gonna get lynched anyway. I won't on principle vote with the bandwagon if I think the bandwagon is wrong. When Chaoser flips blue we'll end this game by lynching you and Darmousseh.
RIP Aaliyah
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