Mini Mafia V: Clues and Puzzles - Page 2

On February 02 2011 03:45 CubEdIn wrote:
Right.
So you're dismissing one clue because it's a fan-made video, as if it it's not on the OST, it doesn't count.
Fact: If you google Apocalypse Now Radiohead, you will see the video.
Fact: There is a photo with a music sheet, your character is strongly connected to music.
Fact: There is a song by Radiohead called House of Cards.

These are not... lyric related, this is not vague like saying "oh well, see, they had a concert in Denmark, which is where legos come from". No. This is quite directly related:
First result in google / Music sheet / Song name

Oh, and nice touch asking to lynch because he is "bad", so then when I flip green you can say "oh he was bad that's why we lynched, not because he put the FoS on me and darmousseh.

And speaking of which, how exactly am I being bad? Are you saying that NONE OF THE THREE CLUES can be rationally related to you, and that I'm just making shit up to try and get out of a lynch?

On February 02 2011 04:50 Node wrote:
The apocalypse now connection is terrible. It's a horrible, unintuitive way to interpret the clue. One could likely find fan-made YouTube videos and google results that could fit any clue to any character. Look, I found a video of a t-Rex made out of legos, so clearly the clue applies to me!

That doesn't clear doch, though. The Lego aliens could be linked to the Radiohead song "Subterranean Homesick Alien". I've got nothing on the footprints, though. There is a radiohead song prominently featuring the lyric "I'm not here, this isn't happening", but that's a big enough stretch that I'm willing to discount it.

I would say that if the clues do reference Thom Yorke, the first one is the red herring. I think there's something we're missing in reference to another character, but I haven't found anything yet. It's likely a lot more simple than we're making it.

I'm also not willing to play the "lynch one guy, and if he's not red, lynch the other guy" game. It's far too easy for town to just attack each other in the clue set-up using the clues instead of actual behavior as their justification. Trust me, just because someone understood a clue wrong it hardly means they are mafia.

On February 02 2011 03:02 CubEdIn wrote:
Well I'm sure I'm green and that the clues do not point to me, and I don't mind analysis on myself either, but the way you are dismissing the clues on Dr.H which are far more obvious seems extremely scummy imo.

On February 02 2011 07:03 chaoser wrote:
I'm horrible with clues, especially this one since I have no idea where to start. That's why I'm doing more analysis of posts and why I voted Node even though there weren't anything in the clues that talked about him. And that why I'd prefer Kenpachi to be lynched given my read through of his posts. If i had to pick between Dr.H and Cube though, I'd pick Dr. H just cause of the semi connection he has to Kenpachi. If he flips red, we probably have our last mafia.

The idea that Jackal's death was bussed is still very much in my head. The way I see it happening is like this. Wiggles and Node provide really solid analysis of the clues and the mafia, seeing that he'd probably get lynched, jumped first to bus him before any townie could vote for him. When he flipped Red, the first person (Dr. H) could always fall back on "why would I bus my own teammate day 1 when no one else had voted for him yet" even though in reality, he was already on the chopping block, mafia just wanted to seem pro town. With Kenpachi's little remarks about how Dr. H is the most pro-town, people would start to think, yeah, maybe he IS pro town and not mafia at all.

If you notice, wiggles, node, and shann already put a lot of pressure on Jackal already in the beginning. Dr. H was too busy talking about pandas and whether they eat people or not and all of a sudden busts out with this:




when his previous posts had all been talking about pandas with Pandain and darmousseh

On February 02 2011 07:36 chaoser wrote:


That's why I'm saying lynch Kenpachi...look at his posts...

On February 02 2011 05:29 chaoser wrote:


I didn't think what's his name, Carlos, was mafia. I thought the clues were too easy but everyone was so gung ho about it and I wasn't 100% sure myself so I didn't say anything. After he flipped red the only people i'm pretty sure aren't mafia are wiggles, shann and node now just cause they were so quick to jump on Jackal. You'll probably somehow tie me to the clues like you tried to do today. I mean, bridge? to a magic set? really? That's not even part of Catcher in the Rye... =p I still don't trust you cause this could all be some big mafia ploy which i wouldn't put past you.

On February 02 2011 05:53 CubEdIn wrote:


Yet, when I did that in the other games, I always turned out town. Go figure.

Also, It's not chainsaw defense. I'm defending myself by saying that the way he is tying clues to Raiden is [way] more far-fetched then the ones pointing at DrH.

And you can go defend yourself, you can say that they're not related, but if you try to turn it on me, then you better have some very good reasons to do so. Basically, you're turning it on me because I voted for you. That's all. You have no other reason other than "you're playing badly", and I'm playing badly, not because I stretched out on the clues analysis like your buddy, but because there's no possible way I'm town? Really? That's the reasoning?

I don't mind it when people defend themselves, but when they do that by trying to turn it around on whoever FoSed them, it's a sign of scum.

Sad part is, people probably won't consider you as a target even after I flip green, so you don't have much to fear anyway.

I didn't participate at all during day one, I didn't even vote and risked being Mod-killed, even though I was online, because I was simply too busy and forgot I was playing in this. You really think that if I was scum, my partners wouldn't PMed me or something?

Anyway, LSB could just like that song OR that movie and thought it was obscure enough to use it as a clue. The fact that it's right there in your face when you google for apocalypse now radiohead, is too much of a coincidence. I'm sorry, it just is. And couple that with the music sheet, house of cards, it points to you more than it points to ANYONE ELSE in this game. And trust me, I looked. And I'm saying that, if the only other option that town found was that they point to motherf*ing RAIDEN, GOD OF THUNDER \o/, then the town deserves to lose. ^_^

And yeah, I'm a radiohead fan, not a "hardcore" one, but I don't see what that has to do with the game.

On February 02 2011 07:44 chaoser wrote:
Then vote for me. Since you're so sure/think i'm mafia. Put your money where your mouth is.

On February 02 2011 08:19 Pandain wrote:

????
U posted once after the game started talking about how clues could relate to Raiden.
+ Show Spoiler +

Sort of lethargic here, I'll try to post an analysis on Cubed in shortly. Originally I thought he was town, but looking over his posts his play reminds me of mine in Insane mafia, where even if my logic was pretty bad I would stick to it.

On February 03 2011 03:09 chaoser wrote:
Bad town play, whether they are mafia or not, should be punished. The fact of the matter is, we don't know if Kenpachi is playing badly as town or if he's mafia, regardless of how he acted in previous games. I'm going to stick my vote on him. If we excuse his play as "just a bad townie" then we screw ourselves over the day he's actually a mafia.

As for the clues, I think when it comes down to it, it's between Cubed and Dr.H. Between the two of them, I'd rather lynch Dr.H cause if he's red then we have a connection between him and Kenpachi; plus i get to feel smart about figuring out their plan of bussing Jackal on day 1.

On February 03 2011 03:14 chaoser wrote:
Also, the snow -> elements -> God of Thunder is kind of a stretch...in my opinion...does no one else think that's a stretch??

On February 03 2011 03:19 chaoser wrote:


Condescending play is condescending. Something mafia would pull when they're in a bind. There's no need for it if you're town. I've done it before as mafia, and I've seen others do it as well. When Cubein flips green, you do realize you're on the chopping block right? If he flips red, well mafia should just give up at that point since it's an almost full town.

On February 03 2011 03:43 shannn wrote:

Or DrH and Cubed are both green or red which is still unlikely but it can happen.

In any case the best way to move forward today is if we lynch either of those 2.
Like you also said, if Cubed does flip green then it's most likely that the other is red and in which Kenpachi is automatically solved as well.

So by going by this logic and my analysis of Cubed and DrH and the circumstances we're in I'm voting against Cubed.

##Vote CubEdIn

On February 03 2011 05:08 chaoser wrote:


Lol so instead of sticking to the clues, you jump off the ship and vote for me. Typical mafia move. Why not see where the ship is going? You were so 100% sure Cubed was mafia before too. Panic much?

On February 03 2011 05:16 chaoser wrote:


So you basically go back on your whole campaign of Cubedin being mafia and want to lynch me even though the clues connect to either you or him? Nice try lol.