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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 04 2011 12:23 GMT
#31
is the setup alterable to where you could run it as a mini?
I'll /in regardless
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 06 2011 12:38 GMT
#39
On February 05 2011 07:08 GMarshal wrote:
I'm /in as well but only if its after XXXVI, since I can't play in 3 mafia games at once.

ha, i'm in 2 just on an alt
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 10 2011 06:07 GMT
#69
By when can we expect roles to go out?
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 11 2011 07:17 GMT
#175
I see Coagulation is spazzing out. Why are you spamming the thread?

I have a town read already, but I will not disclose on who, and a casual suspicion. I will have to wait to see if I can pick up on any associative tells from them in the future. I might be reading too much into the situation. I do not want to tip them off to tighten up their game, though, as I want to see them lynched.

I am not really for Day 1 policy lynches if the person is town. Does anyone have any meta on Coagulation? I don't want to lose a player to a mislynch, though I do not know his alignment. Can anyone help out on this?

Thanks!


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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 11 2011 07:42 GMT
#178
If it is not majority lynch, it would be pretty bad. I am used to rolling with the punches, though. I wouldn't be surprised to see two mafias, masons, cults, or possibly the mafia having abilities like busdriving/roleblocking/lawyering/framing. The lack of flipping also hurts us.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 11 2011 07:56 GMT
#180
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 11 2011 08:14 GMT
#182
I, for one, won't be jumping on the easy bandwagon. Call it hesitance if it will, but I am not going to blindly follow the town because the scum can easily buddy-up to town players, and steer mislynches. Node read as buddying up to Coagulation to me, he could easily be scum.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 11 2011 08:34 GMT
#185
I have to agree with Misder. Node is reading as if he is buddying up to defend a mislynch as scum.
vote: Node
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 11 2011 09:08 GMT
#197
unvote
My vote was more for pressure than anything. It didn't really gain the reaction that I wanted.

@Misder, why are you voting who you are voting?
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 11 2011 09:11 GMT
#198
p.s. I'm assuming you're only voting for him because he's voting for you
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 11 2011 09:42 GMT
#200
I like to get into lynching inactives on d2 or d3
but that's just me
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 11 2011 12:42 GMT
#205
I don't like your OMGUS, and I don't like your response to me, you're my top scumspect.
Misder, can you give me a reference to your best town and best scum game?
IGMEOY
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 11 2011 14:51 GMT
#213
On February 11 2011 23:17 deconduo wrote:
Thoughts on setup:

Ok time to get started. We could potentially have a lot of weird/crazy mechanics in play so we need to be on the look out for anything. As was stated before (by why), there been numerous different factions in his previous games:

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Inismór Mafia 1:

Role List:

IRA:
Godfather: Diana Abonba
Grunts: Andres/ATPGuy

English:
Godfather: GH
Grunts: Ituralde/Sasaki Kojiro

Pro Town:
Donney: Seamus
Davey: FactionHeir
Mairead: Reenk Roink

Neutral:
Padraic: AVSM
Heilyn: 'khaan
Artair: El Diablo

-------

Grunts kill once per night. Once both were dead, godfather could kill once per night. Godfather showed up as innocent until they had performed a kill.
Donney was the detective.
Davey was the gossip person, leaving clues in the writeups. Later gained the ability to either protect/investigate/roleblock one person per night.
Mairead was the doctor, but also a non kill target for Padraic. Later gained the ability to roleblock the person s/he protected if they were anti-town.
Padraic: The generic Serial Killer, didn't have to kill Mairead though.
Heilyn: Welsh boxer, survive one night kill. Only had to survive.
Artair: Late blooming Serial Killer.


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Inismór Mafia 2:

Mafia members:
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
Csargo
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TinCow

Australian Cult Members:
Methos
YLC
atheotes

Kiwi Cult Member:
atheotes

Scottish killers:
Thermal Mercury
Warman

Doctors:
Dr. Yaseikhaan
Lord Winter the intern
Renata the Emergency Room specialist.
Joooray the Pyschiatrist

French Kidnapper:
Sigurd

Arsonist:
Reenk Roink

Original carer of Wee Sean:
Sasaki Kojiro

Town Drunk:
GeneralHankerchief

Priest:
Centurion1

Queen:
Chaotix

Special Townie:
Diamondeye

Detective:
Scienter



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Riftwar Mafia:

Role Allocation:

I gathered the list of players, randomised the list via random.org 10 times, then simply matched that to my role list.


First Group: Mafia Faction, Midkemia, The Nighthawks. Group of Assassins, using crossbows and swords, wearing black clothing, poison rings and sometimes teeth, with hawk medallions.
Yasaikhaan
Renata
Centurion1

Second Group: Mafia Faction, Midkemia, Murmandamus and followers.
atheotes: Murmandamus. Panthanian priest disguised as a Moredhel, objective to bring his 'goddess', Alma-Lodaka, back to life.
Crazed Rabbit: Murad, unable to speak, as he cut his tongue out to prove his loyalty.
A1_Unit: Gorath, secretly traitor, had to find Arutha to bring public knowledge of the second group to light.


Secret Roles:
Askthepizzaguy: Banath, God of Trickery, the hopeless quest and patron of thieves. Had semi-disguise as The Blue Rider, who is later known as Nakor.
Chaotix: Sarig, dead god of magic.
death is yonder: Alma-Lodaka, Valheru, creator of the Panthanians.
scottishranger: Nalar, trapped god of evil. Able to force people to do almost anything, they showed as confused or with a strange look on the faces in the write up.


Pro-town, Midkemia
Greyblades: Pug (Keep orphan, turned master magician)
Sigurd: Tomas (Pug's best friend, half Valheru, due to his armour)
Beskar: Macros (The Black Sorcerer)
Sasaki Kojiro: Algaranna (Elven Queen)
Sprig: Calin (Elven Warleader, son of the Queen)
Csargo: Tathar (Eldest Spellweaver)
Elite Ferret: Arutha ConDoin, Prince of Krondor
Major Robert Dump: Martin ConDoin, Duke of Crydee
White_Eyes:D: Lyam ConDoin, King of the Kingdom of the Isles
rhawn: Jimmy the Hand, later Squire James then Duke James of Krondor
Joooray: Laurie, ex Tsurani slave, bard.


Third Group: Mafia Faction, Kelewan, The Minwanabi House
A Very Super Market: Lord Desio of the Minwanabi
Khazaar: Lord Tasaio of the Minwanabi
Shlin28: Teani, secretly traitor, agent of the Anasati
Beefy187: Shimizu, Captain of the Guard


Fourth Group: Kelewan, The Acoma House
Zain: Lady Mara of the Acoma
CountArach: Strike Leader Papewaio of the Acoma (Yes this is where our moderator papewaio gets his username from)
Karo: Force Commander Keyoke, now Advisor for War, of the Acoma


Fifth Group: Kelewan, The Anasati House
johnhughthom: Tecuma, Lord of the Anasati
GeneralHankerchief: Chumaka, First Advisor of the Anasati


Sixth Group: Kelewan, The Assembley of Magicians
Subotan: Shimone
Captain Blackadder: Hochopepa


Seventh Group: Kelewan, The Emperor and his bodyguards
spltpersonality: Emperor Ichindar
Double A: Magician Bodyguard
A completely inoffensive name: Magician Bodyguard


Eighth Group:Delayed Mafia Faction, Kelewan, Thuril Confederation
LittleGrizzly
Andres
Reenk Roink


Ninth Group: Kelewan, delayed pro-town group, Grey Warriors
Iskander 3.1: Lujan
KukriKhan: Saric
Tratorix/Captain C: Dakhati


Independants:
YLC: Delayed Serial Killer, Cho-ja
Lord Winter: The Upright Man



It is not a stretch to assume there is going to be multiple factions of differing alignments in this game. However this is still speculation.

The information we know for a fact is as follows:
-2 Mafia Goons, 1 Godfather. Initially 1KP per goon, if both goons die then GF gets 2 KP.
-No fool/idiot roles.
-Each person is given a name/personality. These are taken from mafia players in the totalwar forums.

I feel like we might be able to use the names like a weak clue system, but it will require a lot of research.




Thoughts on people's votes/play so far:


-fluffywhatever: Looks like an import from TotalWar? RNGs a vote on Misder as first post of the day. I don't like doing it but it seems to be common practice on the TW forums.

-aidnai: Another RNG vote. Agrees with Node that coag is playing normally.

-Coag/bum/ace: failsauce

-why: I don't think I've seen him before, but so far I like his play. He did a bit of research into pever's previous games and called GCQ out on scummy play. Looks promising.

-believer: edits, defends GCQ

-darmousseh: I found him quite scummy initially in XXXVI, but that was more due to suspicious voting patterns than anything else, (sheeping scum ) Votes Zerroth with decent reasoning. Seems good for now. Only problem I would have is that he is a bit lacking on activity, but its early yet.

-gryffindor: Another possible import from TWI think? Claims Node defended coag where I don't think there was anything. Seems to be an experienced player that likes playing a lot of mindgames:
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On February 11 2011 16:17 gryffindor wrote:
I see Coagulation is spazzing out. Why are you spamming the thread?

I have a town read already, but I will not disclose on who, and a casual suspicion. I will have to wait to see if I can pick up on any associative tells from them in the future. I might be reading too much into the situation. I do not want to tip them off to tighten up their game, though, as I want to see them lynched.

I am not really for Day 1 policy lynches if the person is town. Does anyone have any meta on Coagulation? I don't want to lose a player to a mislynch, though I do not know his alignment. Can anyone help out on this?

Thanks!




On February 11 2011 18:08 gryffindor wrote:
unvote
My vote was more for pressure than anything. It didn't really gain the reaction that I wanted.

@Misder, why are you voting who you are voting?


On February 11 2011 21:42 gryffindor wrote:
I don't like your OMGUS, and I don't like your response to me, you're my top scumspect.
Misder, can you give me a reference to your best town and best scum game?
IGMEOY


Keeping an eye on him.

misder: OMGUS votes fluffy. Maybe an overreaction, but seems like a weird move because he's not inexperienced.

Node: Tries to stop the coag clusterfuck by pointing out that coag is playing normally. Tries to get the town back on track to proper discussion. Solid town play imo. This post stands out:
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On February 11 2011 17:42 Node wrote:
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On February 11 2011 17:34 gryffindor wrote:
I have to agree with Misder. Node is reading as if he is buddying up to defend a mislynch as scum.
vote: Node


I don't follow what you said. You think my plan is to let Coagulation die (even though I'm apparently defending him), and then when we realize that he's not scum (which, as far as I know, we can't), come out and say "I told you so". Do I have it right?




Today's Lynch:

As for today's lynch, saying 'lynch coag cos hes bad lol 111!!' is a stupid idea. Zerroth is a much better candidate by all the reasons given by people voting for coag. He is known to lurk and not contribute from several other games.

Vote: Zerroth


I noticed you were suspicious of me in your post. Is it simply due to my experience? I don't really mind if a wagon forms around me; I'm sure it can be used to benefit us.

I'm assuming this game is similar to the first game, but possibly edited somewhat. The 1/2 godfather/grunt mechanic seems very similar to that. Looking at all those games, in fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see really weird mechanics in play. The best thing to do as town is to roll with the punches, from my personal experience, when given a setup like this. That's all we can really do; It's tough on us without any information! At this point, all we have is speculation.

Speculation on day 1 is just that... speculation. There is nothing solid for us to go on, little scumhunting that can be done, and the only real tactics differ just as people are different. On the extreme liberal side, there is voting lurkers. Somewhere in the middle, we have policy lynching. Or, on the conservative end, there is creating pressure on people who are active and can be held accountable. These players are often more prone to slipping up.

I could be analyzing votecounts, and voting the person first alphabetically who has not voted/posted/appeared pro-town. This would be like fluffy using an RNG in his first post - it is null to me. People who do this are inherently anti-town while giving the appearance of being pro-town, and this sort of thing really needs to be snuffed out and nipped at the heels. I don't want to dip into basing alignment off of activity. Lurkers are going to lurk, and active players are going to be active, regardless of alignment. Remember that, folks.

I could easily bandwagon Coagulation, and my vote and suspiciousness of Node was really just a ploy. Coagulation is one of my two solid town reads thus far, and *I* am willing to defend him. I wish Node would have stepped up to the plate a little better, if anything I am more suspicious of him being scum now than I was when this whole ordeal started. Sorry to go off on a tangent, but what I'm trying to say here is that I don't really like to ride policy lynches.

I have been trying to shift towards the latter. I consider myself a conservative player, but people on this forum are not receptive to my style as town, apparently, as I have been drawing unwanted attention. I feel like John McEnroe objecting to a terrible call by a referee, right now lmao
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 11 2011 22:34 GMT
#234
I didn't really read that as buddying as first, I guess my associative tells are off. I liked deconduo's response a page ago, and I can see now that you all are a bit... aggressive... as a town. I can relate to that, as I like testing peoples' reactions.

The post on this page that I found scummy was by GGQ. I feel he is openly bandwagonning, just hopping in the waters without looking first. Being the 4th voter on the wagon, this is getting serious now, and his vote is anything but.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 12 2011 05:41 GMT
#332
On February 12 2011 12:48 Ace wrote:
I'm not worried about getting lynched. Hell I dont really care. But it's Day 1, a 30 player game with 3 Scum and not many people have been posting much.

Your read on aidnai looks weak when taking this into context. Especially when nothing he has posted shows any strong Scum reading. What exactly is your case against him?

Ace is using reverse psychology here. He is saying "I don't care if I'm lynched one bit, bro", when in fact, he really gives a damn. I was null on Ace up to this point, but I am going to have to lean towards him being scum right now.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 12 2011 06:36 GMT
#343
On February 12 2011 14:15 beefy187 wrote:
Vote: Ace
Its my policy to vote for people who votes for me. I'll make them pay...

Now I don't know most of you, but I'm glad that fluffy is behaving well... His my responsibility and its nice to see him playing properly.

vote: beefy187
test
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 12 2011 06:39 GMT
#345
actually,
unvote
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 12 2011 06:43 GMT
#347
I really disliked Believer's vote a page ago, with absolutely no content with it whatsoever. I also didn't like seeing someone having a post edited earlier, and I was just informed that it was him in PM. I don't want to just go with the mold. I don't want to bandwagon. I want to lynch scum.

Vote: Believer
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 12 2011 07:22 GMT
#356
On February 12 2011 16:02 Node wrote:
Yeah, this game is ridiculously lenient activity-wise. Usually I'm not a huge supporter of lynching inactives, but since they're basically never going to die off on their own we're going to have to use the lynch to either scare them out or kill them. Otherwise it'll be far, far too easy for mafia to hide among them.

I actually agree with this in terms of scaring them out. Pressuring inactives through bandwagons is a valid strategy. If they aren't posting, though, and you notice it, you could ask the mod to PM them. If they respond to his prod, and don't post, then that is generally scummy.

However, sometimes people are simply just inactive. It is not always the best to just gun for the easy targets; it is not efficient to always look low. Ace can be scum, just the same as someone who is lurking, so it is proper to analyze everyone somehow.

I like that you are kind of doing this, though you could actually do something about it, as opposed to complaining.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 12 2011 07:51 GMT
#366
On February 12 2011 16:36 Node wrote:
My vote is on Insanious. What more would you like from me?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on possible scumteam pairings. Who do you feel Insanious is scum with? He doesn't feel that scummy to me. Why do you suspect him?
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 12 2011 07:52 GMT
#367
On February 12 2011 16:50 Coagulation wrote:
hell his single post with his vote on himself alone has pretty much bumped his contribution level above 50% of players in this game.

that's his only post?
like i said, he hasn't been very scummy.
I feel like you're just out for an easy mislynch, Node.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 12 2011 08:25 GMT
#373
On February 12 2011 16:55 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 16:54 aidnai wrote:
On February 12 2011 12:41 thefluffyone93 wrote:
OK.
Unvote; Vote: aidnai


On February 12 2011 13:37 Misder wrote:
Well, there really hasn't been much pressure in terms of voting. The inactives are still winning the vote count by a decent amount. I like pressure though.

And as such,
Unvote Ace
Vote Aidnai

Yay for bandwagoning?

How is PM land going for everyone btw? I'm lonely.

Now that Kitaman has proven his insanity, you two mind taking your votes off me?


He asked nicely. That must mean he's town.

I am fairly suspicious of him as well. I was leaning town on him before he started pming me.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 12 2011 08:27 GMT
#374
@Node+ Show Spoiler +
On February 12 2011 17:13 Node wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 16:51 gryffindor wrote:
On February 12 2011 16:36 Node wrote:
My vote is on Insanious. What more would you like from me?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on possible scumteam pairings. Who do you feel Insanious is scum with? He doesn't feel that scummy to me. Why do you suspect him?


He was inactive. I wanted to see him post. I placed a vote on him. I'm not really sure how else I could pressure someone who had yet to say anything in relation to the game.

As for active posters, I'm more suspicious of bumatlarge than anyone else:

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On February 12 2011 11:47 Node wrote:
And for the record, FOS on bumatlarge. He seemed far too eager to egg on gryffindor's (fake) argument against me.


The post I was referring to:

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On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


I also disliked his "refutation" of Coagulation's post on how he was acting scummy:

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On February 11 2011 19:02 bumatlarge wrote:
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On February 11 2011 17:38 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


really man?

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On February 11 2011 13:50 Coagulation wrote:
We should lynch zerroth
because the last game
completely inactive
only posted/vote to avoid modkill etc

Lets get the inactives out now



lets look at your contributions so far in this game
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On January 23 2011 01:09 bumatlarge wrote:
Once you are dead, you are free from any guidelines or constraints your role may have placed on you.


Ohhh a penalty-esque game? I do have to redeem myself for the last one for Ace -_-

/In!


Awesome you joined the game!

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On February 11 2011 15:29 bumatlarge wrote:
Alright time to get started.
Yep
Hopefully I can make good use of this role, as I have to do the character justice.
Filler
Coagulation has already spouted off to his random tangents, so we might be better off without him.
shows willingness to jump on the easy bandwagon. cause scum love easy bandwagons. that makes town sit around and not analyze people.
I still want to see what everyone is posting like, because I am seeing a good number of sentence long posts with nothing in it.
similar to this post.
Too be expected. I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.
what is this? theres nothing of any value to your post so far for town.
"im not gonna vote"
awesome thanks for letting us know.


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On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


So wait.. i clearly showed you my indication of trying to help town. you disregarded that to blow out of proportion that i am anti town for your own purposes clearly.
If you need an example of me trying to help town with info go ahead an read up top again.

your last post you decided your not gonna vote...OK......And now im the EASY Choice?
What changed your mind?
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I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.


What did you see?
Sounds wishy washy to me. I dont think you seen anything but an easy lynch.
And mafia love easy lynches. because it makes town not focus on scumhunting.
is that what you seen?

if your mafia
im going to hand your ass to town on a silver platter.
I will be watching you.


You are right, I am mafia.





That's a fair point, actually. I also don't like how he is telling him to change his meta. That just seems rude. Is this the extent of your case on bum?
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 12 2011 16:23 GMT
#387
On February 12 2011 23:14 GGQ wrote:
If there's a gunsmith role or something, give me a gun, I wanna kill someone :D.

you would be more likely the player I would shoot, not gun
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 14 2011 08:44 GMT
#516
Can someone tell me what the fuck just happened? I have to do some reading.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 14 2011 12:29 GMT
#531
I was almost lynched? I'll admit, i'm way behind, but I have actually been a good poster in my opinion. I am astonished. It must have been a late-in-the-day mafia wagon. I wouldn't be surprised if I was killed tonight.

doc on me.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 14 2011 13:26 GMT
#533
how am I making anything hard whatsoever? You voted on page 17 without and reasoning at all, and come on with a near-lynchworthy "placeholder" vote on me containing excuses within the EXACT SAME POST. You're joking, right?... right?

If you are not joking, I am very sad. You are way more scummy than I am, and much more likely to be mafia from my perspective. The fact you put me so close to lynch when I had addressed that I needed to be catching up on the game, and that you would vote someone with so little reasoning this far into a large themed game has me questioning your motivations.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 04:21 GMT
#572
On February 15 2011 08:27 deconduo wrote:
Summary of all of GGQ's posts:

+ Show Spoiler +


On February 11 2011 14:26 GGQ wrote:
Wow looks like other people got really fun roles. Mine sucks. Could at least have given me a vigi shot or something to make up for it. Oh well.

Vote: Coagulation


Jumps on the coagulation bandwagon without giving any reason.

On February 11 2011 14:36 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 14:30 Coagulation wrote:
you come in here with complaining about your role
Sounds like scum trying to force find things to say to sound like your contributing.
no one gives a shit if your role is fun or not. and its not gonna help town secure a victory regardless.

and then vote for me give zero explanation


deal with it, imo


Yeah, great response.

On February 12 2011 04:08 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 19:12 Coagulation wrote:
GGQ
+ Show Spoiler +
Likes to vote for people gives no reason and tells town to deal with it when they call him out on it.
this definitely sets off some alarms
FOS



Yeah, because this is the only game I've ever played. You're free to look at some of my other games if you want.

There doesn't seem to be any sort of plan or anything. Lots of people being pretty useless. I already know who I'd kill if I was maf... gonna be a boring night phase =/

unvote: Coagulation
vote: Zerroth


Calls people useless after not contributing anything himself. Switches his vote from coag because he's under pressure to explain said vote. Still doesn't say why he voted coag in the first place. Doesn't say why he's changing to zerroth. At this point zerroth was a 'safe' lynch for scum to switch to.

On February 12 2011 09:39 GGQ wrote:
There should be some red text in your role pm telling you how you are supposed to act.

Can we lynch a mafia already?


Useless post

On February 12 2011 18:08 GGQ wrote:
Let's not be too hasty. We have to be careful with our lynches, since that's our only killing power. Or at least, it's my only killing power QQ

And since apparently people get mad at me no matter whom I vote

unvote Zerroth
vote GGQ


Changes his vote AGAIN. Once again doesn't say why he voted for zerroth. Does another scummy thing in voting for himself. Is apathetic.

On February 12 2011 23:14 GGQ wrote:
If there's a gunsmith role or something, give me a gun, I wanna kill someone :D.


Calls for a gun...
Either a scummy post if serious or a useless one if not.


On February 13 2011 08:27 GGQ wrote:
It's GGQ, not GCQ. Not sure where that started.


Corrected, sorry. However this doesn't contribute in any way/

On February 14 2011 10:45 GGQ wrote:
vote GGQ

sorry, busy today


More uselessness

On February 15 2011 01:55 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 19:44 deconduo wrote:
Vote:GCQ

Scummy voting, scummy play, inactivity.

I don't agree with the misder bandwagon and would encourage people to switch.


It's GGQ.

I'm not mafia. It'd be more fun if I was, but I'm not.


Ok, I take your word for it



tldr: As I said yesterday, not one helpful or non-scummy post. Scummy voting with no explanation or reasoning given for them. I would be very surprised if he is not mafia or his personality dictates he behaves as scummy as possible.

I am suspicious of him. I voted him on D1 IIRC for it. What do you think about Believer? I have been having a scummy read of him since page 17. I feel his play recently has been more town, but he has been attacking me after I expressed my feeling he was likely mafia.

I don't know who the mafia are, but I don't really want to feel out of the loop of the game. People need to PM me more.

On February 15 2011 08:39 Coagulation wrote:
GGQ would be a good lynch
however i think you should wait till day to do post any analysis. you dont want to give mafia any more information to work with when picking targets.

Why is that? If the night is open, we should use it.
It can only give us an advantage to speak out.
Doctors should protect me.

On February 15 2011 08:49 deconduo wrote:
Summary of all of ilovejonn's posts:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 11 2011 14:33 ilovejonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 14:30 Coagulation wrote:
you come in here with complaining about your role
Sounds like scum trying to force find things to say to sound like your contributing.
no one gives a shit if your role is fun or not. and its not gonna help town secure a victory regardless.

and then vote for me give zero explanation

you funny role.


Spam

On February 12 2011 06:29 ilovejonn wrote:
Or maybe his role is to be inactive. But either way I'll be voting Zerroth for the time being until he posts.

##Vote: Zerroth


Gives a reason at least.

On February 12 2011 10:46 ilovejonn wrote:
It ends 4 AM EST for me.. which I will be sleep.


Spam

On February 13 2011 07:49 ilovejonn wrote:
Wow, I kind of surprise only need 5 vote to lynch somebody. >__>

Also, is this the second day now? Or night time? I'm not sure about the phases, but I also don't want abstain from voteing.


Spam

On February 13 2011 07:54 ilovejonn wrote:
Okay, thanks you.


Spam

On February 13 2011 12:48 ilovejonn wrote:
I have feeling some of the active posters are going to be night kill. ><


Spam

On February 13 2011 13:20 ilovejonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 13:09 pevergreen wrote:
On February 13 2011 12:48 ilovejonn wrote:
I have feeling some of the active posters are going to be night kill. ><

You can still keep playing after death.

Oh right.. forgot about that. Well at least that counters the inactiveness.


Spam

On February 14 2011 17:04 ilovejonn wrote:
I hope it wasn't a pro-town vig role who targetted kitaman27, what the heck.


Spam

On February 14 2011 21:00 ilovejonn wrote:
holy crap, 5 people modkilled. zzzzz


Spam. Also while this is purely off my own experiences, posts like these are usually made by scum trying too hard to be town.



tldr: Not even one substantial post. Nothing particularly scummy however, apart from the last post. Unless he steps it up he would certainly be on my lynch list.

I haven't found him that scummy, but he hasn't really stuck out either. The fact he is just coasting by is enough for me to warrant voting him. I would rather have a Believer lynch tomorrow, or a GGQ lynch, but I would be willing to shift to ilovejonn if it became near deadline and we needed to cement a lynch on someone scummy as opposed to letting scum just creep in at the end and vote whoever they wanted. I don't want that to happen.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 04:36 GMT
#574
i actually like the above post. i feel bad saying i would lynch you now. sorry ilove
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 04:47 GMT
#577
This town really needs to get its act together; I will be accepting PMs.

I am also for nameclaiming/roleclaiming openly. With all the modkills, this game just got unbalanced. We need to fix that.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 07:36 GMT
#582
Would grunts already have roles assigned to them, or would this happen before you assigned the town's roles?
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 08:47 GMT
#587
I disagree that Ace is a good choice. Ace generally dies night 1, regardless of alignment. I would pick players like BrownBear who are good, actively lurk, and don't slip up.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 08:53 GMT
#589
but, the moderator actually implied that he may have changed it up before coming here out of courtesy, as he doesn't normally host here. That being said, it is pointless to try to break the game in this way, and is sort of disrespectful to be trying to get people cleared through this method, when it is, in fact, illogical.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 09:31 GMT
#595
On February 15 2011 18:03 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2011 17:47 gryffindor wrote:
I disagree that Ace is a good choice. Ace generally dies night 1, regardless of alignment. I would pick players like BrownBear who are good, actively lurk, and don't slip up.

People help me here. I didn't play many games with Ace. i don't remember him dying early or dying on night 1. (I'll check that out now...).

I look at gryffindor... First game on TL. Man, he must have did some RESEARCH if he knew Ace dies early in games.

This is not my first time around the block, LD.
Lets just say that
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 09:36 GMT
#598
On February 15 2011 18:32 LunarDestiny wrote:
Dr.H smurfing again?

I'm actually offended.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 09:37 GMT
#599
LD, top 3 suspects, with reasoning of at least an ~OpZ~-level-post.
thanks.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 10:38 GMT
#604
Since you won't answer my question, LD, because you are unhelpful scum or not good as town, I will answer it for you.

Suspect #1

Believer:
On February 12 2011 15:43 gryffindor wrote:
I really disliked Believer's vote a page ago, with absolutely no content with it whatsoever. I also didn't like seeing someone having a post edited earlier, and I was just informed that it was him in PM. I don't want to just go with the mold. I don't want to bandwagon. I want to lynch scum.

Vote: Believer

Ever since this post Believer has been pushing me
His case on me is entirely OMGUS, and he is likely scum

I voted him because on page 17, he had voted without any reasoning whatsoever, which is very scummy in a large theme

He then voted me with very little time near the end of D2, as a "placeholder" putting me 1 level away from being lynched just with an unvote of the topwagon and a vote on mine. I'm just really glad his scum teammates weren't on, or I'd have been a goner.

Suspect #2
:

Aidnai

There are a couple of players that have altered my perception of Aidnai, Ace and Kitaman27. He is very good at rhetoric, which is why I'm not going to be pushing on him unless other people open their eyes. Why would I do this, you're wondering? Well, I'll tell you. Because you all aren't going to trust me enough to push him. Even me putting him up higher on my suspect list would probably get hated on, even if it is very possible he is scum.

He was asking me my opinion of Ace in PM, even defending him. It now reads as distancing after the situation revolving around Ace's death. Major scumpoints to Aidnai for what happened on 23. I would love to see someone counterclaim that name, or hear more about whether or not that claim is likely to be on our side or not.

Aidnai told me he had been in contact with Kitaman27, and Kitaman27 was asking me for the dialogues with Aidnai. I did not give them to him, but considering he died shortly thereafter, I have to be suspicious that it is Aidnai's fault that Kita died.

With his name being associated with two deaths for me, I can't not have him on my list of suspects. I would have him higher if I thought I could actually get him lynched, but I bet his mafia team won't throw him under the bus as easily as they would Believer, and I partly believe his claim. I'm just not sure if he's town.

Suspect #3:

Siniquity

I am suspicious of Siniquity, but I am not going to make a huge case about this one, because there really isn't anything to comment on. He's had 1 good post, most of his posts came in the same time-frame, and he has been both unhelpful and actively lurking. He hasn't been adding anything to the discussion at all.

Suspect #3:
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-15 10:50:09
February 15 2011 10:43 GMT
#607
will need to talk to the moderator
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 10:45 GMT
#608
It's for the good of the sanity of the town of this game, trust me.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 10:58 GMT
#610
On February 15 2011 19:54 deconduo wrote:
I feel I missed something important

I'm going to look over your suspects and do an analysis on them too gryff.

Not important from an in game standpoint, but from a personal one.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 15 2011 12:36 GMT
#616
I don't feel like you should claim, unless there is a growing wagon on you, or if you are the utmost vote getter when it is nearing the end of the day. Unnecessary claiming is generally bad for the town. If you're a good player, it will only get you killed, and if you are just a vanilla townie, it will isolate you from the scum having to spend KP on you when they might not have been able to dismiss you being a power role.

I will take a harder look at Aidnai this cycle, and this is mainly in part because of an initial town read on him, but I'm going to give him a second chance through not voting him right now. Instead, I am going to vote for SiNiquity. He has been lurking, yet active, so my first reason is active lurking. My second reason is that he has not been pro-town. If someone could point me to something beneficial he has done, by all means, I missed it.

vote: Siniquity
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 16 2011 11:07 GMT
#706
On February 16 2011 16:42 beefy187 wrote:
Spread out the votes. We need to pressure other peoples.

what is the point of this post?
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 16 2011 11:09 GMT
#707
oh, he can only cast OMGUS
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 16 2011 14:25 GMT
#718
now i see why jonn looked so scummy. doctors always look scummy. i was really considering him to be mafia, but that just shows how off my reads are this game :\
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 17 2011 10:40 GMT
#800
The modkill sucks, but thefluffyone93 is likely scum, so we should actually be happy. Hats off on catching scum. Vote appropriately, medics protect me, etc.

If there is a vigilante out there, please hit Believer. Thx.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 18 2011 18:19 GMT
#904
I've been really ill, apologies. I'll catch up tonight.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 19 2011 11:46 GMT
#928
Yet again another attempted wagon on me. Not surprising. Do you all feel these are town wagons or scum wagons? I'm leaning towards the latter.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 19 2011 12:11 GMT
#929
I'm not going to look into any exact votes, or cast any OMGUS votes in the next phase. It is nearing time where we need to massclaim roles for the good of the town, to sort all of this out. Pretty sure Deconduo is town, and Siniquity is scum, if I had to throw out some reads from my reading. In terms of "who is actually scum" based upon an obvious slip, well that would be Insanious. His pm is obviously fake to me. I will be voting him tomorrow.

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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 19 2011 23:15 GMT
#987
Insanious is obviously mafia with the italicization mixup
vote: Insanious
I know we're in a bad spot, but this is an easy one, guys.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 20 2011 02:20 GMT
#1010
Chaoser is pretty convincing
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 20 2011 10:11 GMT
#1046
I just can't get over Insanious slipping up on that PM
Can you explain that?
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 21 2011 04:16 GMT
#1070
I'd like to see an actual case brought up on me, because there can't be one. It is really impossible, and the fabrication would be laughable.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 21 2011 04:35 GMT
#1073
skewed, and not even funny. I really wish I had something to do tonight, but I have to sit here and wait on them to pick who they are killing.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 21 2011 05:48 GMT
#1081
The fact that I've been relatively inactive does not take away from me being town, try again.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 21 2011 06:52 GMT
#1083
We can't worry about uselessness when it is possibly LYLO, and barring the way this resolves tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if we had lost. We need to be worried about who isn't town, not who is "useful". You aren't really being useful either, with your unfounded accusations which are not only misleading but falsities and lies.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 21 2011 09:43 GMT
#1085
My contribution lies through the fact that I am voting people properly, based upon them messing up illogically where it would be logical for town to not mess up. I feel as if your unfounded accusations lie through the likelihood that you, yourself, flipped scum, and are trying to derail a thread in which you're dead in.

You then begin to attack me as opposed to my words, calling me "jumpy", when I am in fact not jumpy whatsoever. You say I exhibited the same information I did Day 1? Probably because I'm the same role, with the same information.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 21 2011 11:19 GMT
#1089
So, from my perspective, GMarshal is my town read.
Considering there were only 2 kills, I'm guessing the SK is dead.
That means either SiNiquity or Beefy is town, and the one who isn't is the Godfather.
If it's 3v1, like I expect, the proper play is to no lynch as it is MYLO
if it is 2v1v1, with the mafia and the SK still left, having cross-killed, we are fucked
In that scenario, it would be best to no lynch hoping they try to kill each other, leaving us in proper-LYLO tomorrow.

This shouldn't even really be a discussion, because we can't no lynch, so look at my aforementioned points that GMarshal is pretty clear through my eyes via his behavior towards me in PMs. I am not familiar with Beefy's play, but I have to say that I have not really seen SiNiquity ever try this hard, and it has me up in arms. I really feel like he is the most likely to be the last scum.

Vote: SiNiquity
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 01:50 GMT
#1133
I hadn't claimed because I'm just a vanilla townie, and I didn't want to out all the power roles through deductive reasoning. SiNiquity is feeling more town lately, and seems to be genuinely scumhunting. I really wish we could No Lynch, as that would be the better play.

GMarshall's post by post analysis on Beefy is pretty good.
unvote

On February 21 2011 23:02 beefy187 wrote:
Vote: gryffindor

gryffindor has lived for too long. I believe he is the last surviving baddy and he must be lynched.

I also don't like this post. He says I'm "the last baddy", without any reasoning.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 01:51 GMT
#1134
I need to talk to the moderator about something.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 07:22:56
February 22 2011 06:52 GMT
#1151
vote: SiNiquity
I don't believe you're scum;
I believe Beefy is
I'm sorry for re-voting you, but I have a more town-sided read on GMarshal than you, so I believe it is more likely you might stack with me on him than him stacking on you. I fully expect Beefy to come in, vote you, and split the votes (if you put a 2nd vote on him) because he is the last scum

That could go to No Lynch, though I doubt it will. We have to assume we are in MYLO since there were only two kills last night.

Beefy is the last scum, please vote him SiNiquity
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 08:14 GMT
#1156
On February 22 2011 16:03 pevergreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
^ Pre-edit, and I'm guessing had to edit because it was red text.


Yes I asked him to remove it so I wouldn't have to modkill him.

You have problems reading, evidently, chaoser
this post was right above the one you made
the mod made me edit it; I didn't want to edit it.

This game is really frustrating.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 08:25 GMT
#1158
It's alright. Thanks for bringing up that there was only 1 kill last night. I'm guessing the mafia chose to only kill 1 person, or that we only have an SK left. I'm not sure if the mafia can choose to not hit, though, does anyone know anything about that? GMarshall PMed me thinking that's what they had done.

I dislike the line in the op "at this rate, you'll all be dead tomorrow" coupled with the feeling Beefy is a village idiot, and that the last remaining scum could easily be SiNiquity/GMarshall and just tack on that damning vote on me which will win them the game.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 12:33 GMT
#1200
The mod gave you a cover role, or you created one yourself?
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 12:42 GMT
#1201
On February 22 2011 19:34 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 19:33 chaoser wrote:
He's basically saying, Beefy is mafia, but i'm voting sin anyway, giving mafia chance to tie. This could go to no lynch (which it will if beefy is actually mafia) and even though I think beefy is scum, i'm not going to vote him, Sin, please do.

could be red text related I guess....

exactly
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 12:43 GMT
#1202
I got stuck knowing who was scum, not able to vote them, even if I pleaded my case to the moderator that simply voting someone who is voting you is not always OMGUS

I guess he doesn't understand the term.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-22 13:37:21
February 22 2011 13:36 GMT
#1207
On February 22 2011 21:59 pevergreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2011 21:51 Insanious wrote:
I also had a nice MSG from pever that told me why I was in why's message from day 1... although I wouldn't know what he meant till then.


Not sure I know what you are referring to.

gryffindor: You didn't plead anything.

To: pevergreen [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: prime
Date: 2/22/11 10:52
It's kind of unfair that I can't vote Beefy at this point. His play is indicative of him being the last scum. If I legitimately feel he is scummy, it isn't OMGUS.


I didn't send this PM?
You didn't NOT reply to it?
Because I know, for a fact, you didn't reply to it
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 13:38 GMT
#1208
I killed you, deconduo
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 13:39 GMT
#1209
also, the fact beefy knew to vote me 3 days consecutively is a bit fishy to me considering my red text
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Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 13:40 GMT
#1210
anyways, regardless, thanks for hosting and had this not coincided with GSL at the end, I probably would have talked my way out of SiNiquity hammering me

If I hadn't been forced to edit, I would have won
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 13:42 GMT
#1212
You were.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 13:42 GMT
#1213
^^
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 13:43 GMT
#1214
You are Psychonaut

An Australian moderator, you’ve recently shown yourself to have exceptional mafia skills.

You are Anti Town
Victory condition: Be the last one standing.

Each night phase, you may place a ‘prime’ on any player. Following that night phase, you may trigger the ‘prime’ at any point, including during the day. If you let multiple accumulate, you can trigger them all at once, or still delay them. If you die, the primes are removed.

Host note: Pick a theme for the prime and death, is it some form of drug, or maybe a slow acting poison etc etc

You are never allowed to respond to votes to yourself. You can’t perform an ‘OMGUS’ vote (voting for someone because they voted for you). You also tend to ignore the town’s plan and go with what you think is best.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 13:44 GMT
#1215
my red text really screwed me. I was also unsure if "ignoring the town plan" meant I couldn't claim with the town, so I didn't want to risk modkill, but considering beefy's was "be active", and he wasn't, I don't really think this was unbiased
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 13:53 GMT
#1216
GG
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
February 22 2011 14:43 GMT
#1225
good troll, beefy
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