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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 22 2011 16:09 GMT
#13
Once you are dead, you are free from any guidelines or constraints your role may have placed on you.


Ohhh a penalty-esque game? I do have to redeem myself for the last one for Ace -_-

/In!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 11 2011 06:29 GMT
#158
Alright time to get started. Hopefully I can make good use of this role, as I have to do the character justice. Coagulation has already spouted off to his random tangents, so we might be better off without him. I still want to see what everyone is posting like, because I am seeing a good number of sentence long posts with nothing in it. Too be expected. I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 11 2011 08:04 GMT
#181
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 11 2011 10:02 GMT
#201
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 11 2011 17:38 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


really man?

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On February 11 2011 13:50 Coagulation wrote:
We should lynch zerroth
because the last game
completely inactive
only posted/vote to avoid modkill etc

Lets get the inactives out now



lets look at your contributions so far in this game
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On January 23 2011 01:09 bumatlarge wrote:
Once you are dead, you are free from any guidelines or constraints your role may have placed on you.


Ohhh a penalty-esque game? I do have to redeem myself for the last one for Ace -_-

/In!


Awesome you joined the game!

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On February 11 2011 15:29 bumatlarge wrote:
Alright time to get started.
Yep
Hopefully I can make good use of this role, as I have to do the character justice.
Filler
Coagulation has already spouted off to his random tangents, so we might be better off without him.
shows willingness to jump on the easy bandwagon. cause scum love easy bandwagons. that makes town sit around and not analyze people.
I still want to see what everyone is posting like, because I am seeing a good number of sentence long posts with nothing in it.
similar to this post.
Too be expected. I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.
what is this? theres nothing of any value to your post so far for town.
"im not gonna vote"
awesome thanks for letting us know.


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On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


So wait.. i clearly showed you my indication of trying to help town. you disregarded that to blow out of proportion that i am anti town for your own purposes clearly.
If you need an example of me trying to help town with info go ahead an read up top again.

your last post you decided your not gonna vote...OK......And now im the EASY Choice?
What changed your mind?
Show nested quote +
I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.


What did you see?
Sounds wishy washy to me. I dont think you seen anything but an easy lynch.
And mafia love easy lynches. because it makes town not focus on scumhunting.
is that what you seen?

if your mafia
im going to hand your ass to town on a silver platter.
I will be watching you.


You are right, I am mafia.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 12 2011 07:19 GMT
#354
Wow, I really didn't get anything out of reading the thread again. I didn't really expect to, but it's slightly dismal. The 75% vote thing can be nice, if most of these people genuinely forgot, but there are a lot of them. May seem bad to bandwagon on this zerroth train, but he's been inactive before, and now that he isn't going to get punished for t immediately...

I'm willing to give siniquity and insanious a chance, as Ive played with them before and they seem to be forgetful. The new players should be given a chance to contribute.

Vote zerroth
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 12 2011 07:46 GMT
#364
Now its a race to make one post! Even a post with nothing (but a vote hopefully) will probably be enough to save you from a lynch at this point...
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 12 2011 09:56 GMT
#377
On February 12 2011 17:13 Node wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 16:51 gryffindor wrote:
On February 12 2011 16:36 Node wrote:
My vote is on Insanious. What more would you like from me?

I'd like to hear your thoughts on possible scumteam pairings. Who do you feel Insanious is scum with? He doesn't feel that scummy to me. Why do you suspect him?


He was inactive. I wanted to see him post. I placed a vote on him. I'm not really sure how else I could pressure someone who had yet to say anything in relation to the game.

As for active posters, I'm more suspicious of bumatlarge than anyone else:

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On February 12 2011 11:47 Node wrote:
And for the record, FOS on bumatlarge. He seemed far too eager to egg on gryffindor's (fake) argument against me.


The post I was referring to:

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On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


I also disliked his "refutation" of Coagulation's post on how he was acting scummy:

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On February 11 2011 19:02 bumatlarge wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 11 2011 17:38 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


really man?

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 13:50 Coagulation wrote:
We should lynch zerroth
because the last game
completely inactive
only posted/vote to avoid modkill etc

Lets get the inactives out now



lets look at your contributions so far in this game
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 01:09 bumatlarge wrote:
Once you are dead, you are free from any guidelines or constraints your role may have placed on you.


Ohhh a penalty-esque game? I do have to redeem myself for the last one for Ace -_-

/In!


Awesome you joined the game!

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 15:29 bumatlarge wrote:
Alright time to get started.
Yep
Hopefully I can make good use of this role, as I have to do the character justice.
Filler
Coagulation has already spouted off to his random tangents, so we might be better off without him.
shows willingness to jump on the easy bandwagon. cause scum love easy bandwagons. that makes town sit around and not analyze people.
I still want to see what everyone is posting like, because I am seeing a good number of sentence long posts with nothing in it.
similar to this post.
Too be expected. I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.
what is this? theres nothing of any value to your post so far for town.
"im not gonna vote"
awesome thanks for letting us know.


Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


So wait.. i clearly showed you my indication of trying to help town. you disregarded that to blow out of proportion that i am anti town for your own purposes clearly.
If you need an example of me trying to help town with info go ahead an read up top again.

your last post you decided your not gonna vote...OK......And now im the EASY Choice?
What changed your mind?
Show nested quote +
I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.


What did you see?
Sounds wishy washy to me. I dont think you seen anything but an easy lynch.
And mafia love easy lynches. because it makes town not focus on scumhunting.
is that what you seen?

if your mafia
im going to hand your ass to town on a silver platter.
I will be watching you.


You are right, I am mafia.



You should be suspicious of me. You don't want me claiming fake DT behind your back now.

But I don't think it warrants any drastic measures being taken out on me at the moment.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 12 2011 14:09 GMT
#384
On February 11 2011 10:00 LunarDestiny wrote:
Ok. I got a fucked up pm. AND my character happens to be gay. WTF.


He wasn't lying. LOL
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 13 2011 06:54 GMT
#433
If I must die, then I accept my fate for the good of the town. BRING IT.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 13 2011 19:50 GMT
#447
Did I call it or did I call it?

On February 14 2011 02:48 thefluffyone93 wrote:
Vote: Misder

and round and round we go....


Dont be stupid, you have perfectly good information to work with right now.

Mafia made a depressingly bad mistake here, unless they planned this out really well. Let me list a few reasons why.

1) Ace and I can still talk and comment. If we both win with town (though I have some doubts about ace now), we can both assertively take positions about matters. We just can't lynch or use abilities, or talk about anything we haven't revealed. This is very important.
2) Someone targeted two very experienced TL players. This means someone who knows both Ace and I is calling the shots (eat it BB). We can narrow this down dramatically to one or more people.
3) As deconduo said, two nightkills, and we know from the OP that mafia have two kp. "Kagemusha" wasn't idly mentioned, I'm guessing, so we should discuss if this person should claim and state any information he may have received last night (I think he may have been protected or have been a vet as well). It appears Ace tried to kidnap(kill?) him. It may be likely that ace could be a grunt (GF can't die yet) or a third party/vig. He can't claim it I believe because of the "rules for dead" unless he has mentioned it before.
4) Kagemusha is still alive. We should look into this person on totalwar.org. It is possible Ace tried to kill the GF as well so it failed. This needs to be figured out ASAP.

There is nothing to be done about Ace atm unless he is able to specify something, and he is dead anyway so herp derp. Here is a list of people I have played with and know. (This will be in order from memory and familiarity to myself rather then counting how many games they have played with us) I have been mafia with the top 5 iirc.

deconduo
BrownBear
chaoser
aidnai
SouthRawrea
Coagulation
Node
SiNiquity
Misder
GGQ
kitaman27
Insanious
Mr. Wiggles
GMarshal
darmousseh
ilovejonn
why

Also, Ace and I were at the top of the list if we disregard deconduo. This could mean something considering it is a penalty game, but I wouldn't put too much thought into it.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 13 2011 20:01 GMT
#449
On January 22 2011 15:57 pevergreen wrote:
Rules for the dead:
You are free to continue discussing as you would normally in and outside of the thread, with the condition that you do not reveal anything private you may have known while alive. (So no post death reveals of role, abilities or results) You may only comment about in thread events and anything you may have revealed in thread before your death. If you are seen trying to circumvent this rule, you will be asked to stop posting entirely. Once you are dead, you are free from any guidelines or constraints your role may have placed on you.

On February 11 2011 19:02 bumatlarge wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 11 2011 17:38 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


really man?

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 13:50 Coagulation wrote:
We should lynch zerroth
because the last game
completely inactive
only posted/vote to avoid modkill etc

Lets get the inactives out now



lets look at your contributions so far in this game
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 01:09 bumatlarge wrote:
Once you are dead, you are free from any guidelines or constraints your role may have placed on you.


Ohhh a penalty-esque game? I do have to redeem myself for the last one for Ace -_-

/In!


Awesome you joined the game!

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 15:29 bumatlarge wrote:
Alright time to get started.
Yep
Hopefully I can make good use of this role, as I have to do the character justice.
Filler
Coagulation has already spouted off to his random tangents, so we might be better off without him.
shows willingness to jump on the easy bandwagon. cause scum love easy bandwagons. that makes town sit around and not analyze people.
I still want to see what everyone is posting like, because I am seeing a good number of sentence long posts with nothing in it.
similar to this post.
Too be expected. I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.
what is this? theres nothing of any value to your post so far for town.
"im not gonna vote"
awesome thanks for letting us know.


Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


So wait.. i clearly showed you my indication of trying to help town. you disregarded that to blow out of proportion that i am anti town for your own purposes clearly.
If you need an example of me trying to help town with info go ahead an read up top again.

your last post you decided your not gonna vote...OK......And now im the EASY Choice?
What changed your mind?
Show nested quote +
I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.


What did you see?
Sounds wishy washy to me. I dont think you seen anything but an easy lynch.
And mafia love easy lynches. because it makes town not focus on scumhunting.
is that what you seen?

if your mafia
im going to hand your ass to town on a silver platter.
I will be watching you.


You are right, I am mafia.


I like this game.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 13 2011 20:08 GMT
#451
On February 14 2011 05:06 Ace wrote:
amazing I even tried to keep myself alive by not doing too much and I still died. Epic.

go go Tree Stump powers!


Wonder Twin Tree Stump powers! ACTIVATE!
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 13 2011 20:11 GMT
#453
Well isn't like dying in this game basically tree stump anyway? that wasn't a penalty or ability of mine or anything...
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 13 2011 21:41 GMT
#462
Ace uses the word "kidnap" aidnai, while you say you were hit. Were you informed of being hit? We'll need to look into "Kagemusha" but I don't think aidnai would risk lying that he was actually him.

Having a role that reverses the kill unto the attacker seems a bit unfair, but we don't know your penalty so whatever. Ace is already dead, so it's in our favor if he's red. Killing aidnai wouldn't prove his role, since we can already assume he is kagemusha. Looks like GF can die before grunts...

Anyway, regardless of exactly what happened between ace and aidnai, we can't resolve it with a lynch (ace is dead aidnai would just pop kagemusha). I think we should set it aside unless Ace and aidnai can provide anything else.

As for a lynch, I'm very suspicious of deconduo and this post right after the night.


On February 13 2011 23:13 deconduo wrote:
Thoughts:

-Only 2KP went through
-Two of the teamliquid vets were targeted.
-Ace was trying to kidnap/kill Kagemusha when he himself was killed. I'd be interested in finding out who that was, feel free to PM me if you wish.


So we have someone with what looks like a scummy ability dead, which is good. I thought ace's play was off and thats probably why. Whether or not he was mafia or 3rd party I don't know. If I had to guess, I'd say he was a roleblocker though.


I'm not too sure how the DTs will work in this game, but I would advise them to be wary of forming a circle just yet. Considering the likelihood of separate factions, even someone checked as town might not be completely safe. However if you have a guilty, try and form a case against them. Do an analysis and start pushing.

Medics should be looking at veteran players as they are being targetted.

I'm going to look over Ace's posts again to see if I can glean anything from them,


First part is obvious stuff plus asking for a PM. Last part is blatant blue advice AFTER night instead of before. I'll ignore this because there has been so much nonsense I could pick at in this thread. The middle part interests me, as I'm not certain why Ace's ability had to be scummy. Now that aidnai claims against ace it does, but before it I couldn't jump to that conclusion. I'd like for deconduo to elaborate on that reasoning.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 13 2011 23:22 GMT
#464
coagulation if i claimed mafia you would believe me
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 16 2011 00:58 GMT
#672
Wait guys I am a detective and I checked lunar and he is a serial killer.

Oh wait PEVERMIND
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 17 2011 12:24 GMT
#803
you should lynch deconduo
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 17 2011 13:19 GMT
#805
Look at the kill list. Unless someone from totalwar did a ridiculous amount of research, the kills are such an obvious pattern.

That leaves:
deconduo
Insanious
chaoser
GMarshal
ilovejonn

Of those who would do this, deonduo and chaoser fit the bill pretty well. I've been mafia with both of them, and they are prone to get rid of experienced players they know first. Everyone on the kill list are experienced players they know. Deconduo can take a bit of a leadership role, and chaoser not so much. It is possible for it to be the other TLers, but then they put some work into changing up their style and deserve to win.

It has deconduo written all over it. I'm not really going to argue it too much, as I don't feel too much of a drive to help town anymore, but I'd feel guilty if I didn't do anything since I can talk.

I'd also be surprised if anyone left actually did any analysis or penalty guessing. Look at night kills too, please. You have to figure out how much KP mafia have. I'm guessing they are at 1 grunt 1 GF, and a third party might have KP. I bet decon and chaoser are on different sides.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 18 2011 13:52 GMT
#892
deconduo
SiNiquity
JBright
Insanious
chaoser
GMarshal

What an interesting vote list. I'm fairly certain fluffy was a mislynch.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 18 2011 13:59 GMT
#894
That you are a massive sheep regardless of your alignment. I even forgot to put you in the list. Vig deconduo or chaoser. Hear my townie voice and OBEY.
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