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On February 14 2011 21:29 gryffindor wrote:
I was almost lynched? I'll admit, i'm way behind, but I have actually been a good poster in my opinion. I am astonished. It must have been a late-in-the-day mafia wagon. I wouldn't be surprised if I was killed tonight.
doc on me.
Why would mafia bother killing you?
You have been posting shady conclusions and voting strange, if nothing else mafia would rather keep you alive as a scapegoat later on. If you are not mafia you sure are making town's work hard.
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In the last 7 pages you have only made the contributing factors: "Wow, wtf happened?" and "Lol you almost lynched me?".
Combine that with general low content of posts and this extremely passive-aggresive nature I say we have ourselves a trouble maker.
FoS on gryffindor.
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Scary lack of activity at the moment. I would have thought atleast Coagulation would have something to say about this.
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GMarshal, simple stating the obvious is clearly scummy from now on. We are only 19 players left and I don't believe any mafia are dead yet so we have to really start working.
If you are town, please try to contribute. I could be clearly wrong about gryffindor and beefy could be wrong about him and ilovejonn.
Help us out, we "all" want town to win.
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Going to bed now, will respond to the PM's in the morning.
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This is indeed an interesting development. Some of the characters I am not familiar with from my research of the Org, such as Gregoshi and Andres. Might just be my poor researching skills though.
Regarding the criticism I have recieved now..
I am not Mafia, it would be unwise to lynch me because there will be even fewer votes for the real Mafia. As we see here we have a few possible scenarios.
1. The Godfather is dead and the grunts have continued killing. We also have 1 vigilante killing.
2. The two grunts are dead and the Godfather is killing twice per night. We also have 1 vigilante killing.
3. No Mafia are dead, the grunts are killing two people each night. We also have 1 vigilante killing.
4. One grunt is dead and the mafia is only killing 1 person per night. We also have 2 vigilante killing.
5. One grunt and the Godfather is dead, killing once per night. We also have 2 vigilante killing.
Those are the options I can come up with.
As for my defense. If the town wishes I will role-claim later this day period to prove my innocence. I thank gryffindor for sparking the discussion, not only of me but of all his suspects, so we can finally gain some headway. I believe we are making some progress finally.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 15 2011 21:21 LunarDestiny wrote:Believer:He claims that this is his first mafia game. If that is the case, then his playstyle is understandable because it is his first game. What surprised me is that he used mafia terms such as FoS and OMGUS. I don't think a new player are comfortable enough to use those two terms. His voting on gryffindor don't say much about his alignment. He basically just say he find gryffindor's posts suspicious. Although he didn't explain how are they suspicious, I don't think it is enough evidence to pin him as mafia. But he needs to explain his reasoning. SO BELIEVER, EXPLAIN WHAT MADE YOU VOTE FOR GRYFFINDOR.
Aidnai:First of all, he name claimed and no one counter claimed. Pretty sure he is Kagemusha, but. his ability claim and mod pm can be faked (so keep that in mind when reading this). Show nested quote +
You are Kagemusha
You’ve been around a long time. You’re a veteran, there is no doubt. But you’re also a bad kill choice. You see, back in the early days, there was a curse. “The curse of Kagemusha”. Whenever you were killed at night, the mafia immediately fell apart. Some say the curse still exists, others laugh...
You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
-pevergreen's post was about Ace kidnapping Aidnai. Ace's choice of tool is a sack. Look at this from pevergreen's post:
After a few hours, Kagemusha freed himself from the sack.Ace's role screams JAILER. -Aidnai's claimed power couldn't be activated because he was not killed. So what killed Ace. Well, the only logical answer is that he is targeted by a KP. I also said the .org GF system give the GF power to recruit scums. Assuming that .org GF system is being used, I am very certain Ace would make a fine recruit. And his death is because a 3rd party killed him. If .org GF system is NOT used, both mafia and 3rd party have great incentive to kill him.
Ace, I know releasing role info after death is illegal. But can you give me your opinion on Aidnai prior to your death?SiNiquity:Much like the last game (XXXVI), he lives on without getting much attention. He got two interesting posts: Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 06:41 SiNiquity wrote:
Ironically, my character profile states I don't have much time for mafia anymore LOL so true. But anyway, I just caught up with the thread and there's a shit ton of Kita bashing for no apparent reason. You guys are dumb if you think he's mafia. Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 06:46 SiNiquity wrote:On February 11 2011 19:12 Coagulation wrote:
SiNiquity
an average quality player. leaves a little bit to be desired as far as amount of posting he does.
not an inactive player by any stretch but hes not gonna be posting alot of shit to analyze.
No shit, because when I post I'm right. So no, I don't make a ton of haphazard posts saying "Well what about this itty bitty thing over here that someone said that makes me tingle in funny places? And it's not my SPIDEY SENSEEEE" because let's face it, I don't have a need to crap all over the thread like the rest of you. First, he says that Kitaman's accuses are unjustified which I agree. Looking back, it started because someone (aidnai) pointed finger at Kitaman and Kitaman points finger back. These back and forth happened all the time from two townies. After so many unknown variables such as low mafia count and groups, I doubt people will expose themselves to get someone lynch for no reason. I don't like the second post which says he don't like spamming the thread when most of his posts are spams as well. (I admit I spam too...)
I can explain my actions, don't you worry. :')
As for the terminology used by me, you can see from the start that I use none of the wording normally applied to mafia games. However, I have familiarized myself with it as of this forum thread: http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131366-Mafia-Glossary
It really is quite the gold mine if one is looking for help starting up.
As for my vote on gryffindor, I simply wanted to see what he would do, I had my doubts (and still do) about him. The "placeholder" voting was so it wouldn't look suspicious should I change it due to him leading the polls, I never wanted him lynched there.
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Just some things I find... Entertaining, looking back.
+ Show Spoiler +The exact same .gif was linked by fluffy in one of pevergreen/fluffy's games on the Org. He is also a "famous" troll over there, often linking images and videos. SiNiquity could very well be fluffy. On February 14 2011 05:43 aidnai wrote:Wassup ACE?!?! I'm going to full on role claim here, minus the red text of course. Show nested quote +
You are Kagemusha
You’ve been around a long time. You’re a veteran, there is no doubt. But you’re also a bad kill choice. You see, back in the early days, there was a curse. “The curse of Kagemusha”. Whenever you were killed at night, the mafia immediately fell apart. Some say the curse still exists, others laugh...
You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
- Since my power was activated, I was being targeted as a kill, not a roleblock or anything else - Since Ace was targeting me for the kill and he was affected by the curse which affects mafia, Ace was in fact mafia My job here is done, if they kill me for realz they still can't shut me up lol  I highly recommend that any advice, opinions etc given by Ace from here on out be ignored. Last thing to say, we'll hopefully know after tonight's KP if Ace was a GF or a grunt. I think probably a grunt was sent to kill, but Ace as GF is smart from mafia perspective so I dunno...
I might be knit-picky here but I see one irregularity, two to be very on the spot.
There is no dot after the name in the role PM, mine has a dot and I would assume they all are quite the same on that spot.
There are way too many short sentences, if one were to forge a role PM one would want to keep it very short and precise. Mine has long sentences, often elaborating "unneccessary" details.
I might not have the greatest proof, but I see this as suspicious.
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How is it that whenever I speak up I am met with a wall of silence, please share your opinions of my discoveries. I am new to this game and might be interpreting (spelling?) things wrong, I am still a vote for the benefit of us all. :')
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Don't forget rule #1.
Or perhaps you haven't? ; )
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On February 16 2011 00:55 GGQ wrote:Man, doesn't seem like town is doing good at all 
So help us out!
I've posted several claims, how about you refute/support one of them?
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Watching the development I think it's safe to say that GGQ is a clear prime suspect.
Starting a band wagon...
Vote: GGQ
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On February 16 2011 03:28 GGQ wrote:
vote: deconduo
Insanely weak OMGUS vote.
I think we can safely say now that GGQ is mafia without a doubt.
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Just woke up now.
Not too much to add during this day, I think we are all anxious to get the name of GGQ so we can move on.
My guess is RR.
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This is indeed an interesting development..
I was wrong to say that GGQ was RR, obviously, but RR was involved with this somehow.
I suggest that RR is a town vig and that Wiggles and ACIN were not connected as bumatlarge (I think?) and LunarDestiny.
It could be that RR is not town but a true neutral vig and only after a set number of people but I think this is less likely.
Opinions guys?
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Have you notified pever about this?
Or is it someone who already have been WoG'ed?
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It's okay, too bad the person in question made a mistake. We really need all the helpful townie chars right now!
Let's just hope there's another medic, otherwise we are royally fudged.
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Come on pever, play nice!
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For clarification to anyone who still doesn't understand.
YOU MAY:
Reveal your character name in PM.
Reveal your character name, alignment and description in the thread.
Forge your Role PM and post it in the thread.
Forge your name in PM.
YOU MAY NOT:
Reveal ANYTHING about your character except it's name in PM.
Reveal your red text in either the thread or PM.
In ANY WAY hint to what status your character has in PM.
And pever, by "play nice" I meant that I want that update, not that ilovejonn should not be WoG'ed.
Pretty please? <3
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Please do not get yourself mod-killed now, we really need all townie chars alive and scumhunting for us to break through.
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