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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Finally, I thought BC was green. So I didn't want him lynched anyway. What your doing right now is analyzing me in the MINDSET that I'm mafia, rather than in the mindset of "I'll find out." My actions make just as much sense when you put them in the perspective of "Pandain is town." Finally, that was my vote, since no one else was changing. Since they didn't make a choice, I had to. And it was better to lynch an inactive, then not lynch at all. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On January 25 2011 09:31 Jackal58 wrote: There are only two possible reasons for the way you played day 1. ! is you're mafia. 2 is you're an idiot. I think 1 is the most likely scenario. How about you actually answer the content rather than say "If you do that your an idiot". I don't deny I'm an idiot, but at least show me the way. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On January 25 2011 09:38 Jackal58 wrote: No. I said if you were town you were the unluckiest person ever. I've never commented on what you believe or why. My comments are all based on your day one rush to lynch. It only makes sense if you're red. Quit putting words in my mouth. I did answer it. How much more clear can I be in my reasons? Flail all you want. I said why am I unlucky. You said(or what did you mean) by that is because I thought shockkey was red. On January 25 2011 07:23 Jackal58 wrote: You didn't miss one. You missed two. Shockevvy = green LSB = Green and then BC mod killed = green. You were voting for all 3 at various times. Pushing hard for LSB and then voting Shockevvy when you were afraid of a tie. It's just too convenient. Here you say I'm unlucky because I missed three. However, I thought Shockkey and BC were green. So because I got one person wrong ON DAY 1, for the love of god its day 1, I'm red? And what do you mean "day 1 rush to lynch" Furthormore, how many times do I have to say that the day 1 analysis was mostly forced up until I offered Nemesis as a viable lynched, because I was just generating discussion. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Pandain
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Just because someone was probably going to get modkilled means its suddenly okay if no lynch happens? There was no discussion on BC(besides my SLIGHT accusation which I later revoked.) Him dying told us nothing. And I thought he was town. Part of why lynches are so important is because it provides us information. Otherwise, we're still in the dark. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Keeping in mind its day 1, meaning I'm only 60-75% sure he's town, meaning theres still a chance he's mafia. And at the very least a useless townie. Keeping in mind that if BC, who i thought was green, died, then it would be as if we started off a townie down, and mafia got a free hit. Keeping in mind that its better at the very least to lynch than not lynch, when a modkill won't gurantee us any information... I don't see why you're so insistent on believing I'm mafia. Either your scum or tunneling, and need to think. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On January 25 2011 10:39 Jackal58 wrote: A lynch puts us into an almost immediate lylo on day 2. Why would a townie do that? Okay I'm sorry I don't have knowledge in hindsight to aid me. You can tell the atmosphere of panic, there wasn't much time to think. What your saying is what would've been "ideal". Just because I didn't do that, and keep in mind no one even mentioned not lynching, so it was on NO ONE's mind. So why do you think I am to blame? This is why I am a sad panda sometimes. Because I'm the most active, I get the blame for everything. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On January 25 2011 11:02 Jackal58 wrote: Your activity hasn't been an issue. But the day 1 lynch can only be explained in 1 way. Well 2 but option 2 doesn't seem to fit. If I'm wrong it's only because you pulled an exceptionally bonehead play at the end of day 1 that guaranteed 3 dead town at the start of day 2. What else am I supposed to think? Wtf? How am I in charge of LSB's death? How am I in charge of BC's deatH? I'm not even in charge of Shockkeys death, I didn't even want that. Furthormore, Shockkey was going to be lynched BEFORE I did anything. In fact, I only ALMOST saved him. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Why, one hour beforehand, would I change. Some people have said because I wanted to "kill a more active townie" but really I just wanted to save shockkey. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
The mod kill just left us with a townie dead and no info. It's as if we started off a day late. You're missing the point of day1:information. That's really the main thing about day 1. And lynches provide a crucial part. I didn't want Shockkey to be lynched, I wanted LSB to be lynched(who I was wrong about on day 1). I tried to save shockkey an hour before(why would i do that as mafia). However, because I didn't want us to end up in the "one day later" scenario, I voted shockkey so at least in the 30-40% chance he was mafia, we would gain info. And in the scenario that he was town, we would still be instutituing the "no lurking" policy. I'm sorry that I didn't realize it brought us to lylo. But as I'm going to point out again, no one else did. And really, if you don't even acknowledge the possibility of what I'm saying is true, I give up  - | ||
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United States12989 Posts
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Pandain
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On January 26 2011 08:59 Ace wrote: damn Pandain you got lynched as Town? v_v by 3 mafia and jackal :p On January 26 2011 12:28 Jackal58 wrote: When Pandain flipped green. I really should apologize to Pandain but dammit he put us into a lylo situation on day 2 and I really couldn't see anybody but red doing that. Honestly if you expect someone to always remember the lylo count, that's pretty silly. Plus the fact everyone then was like "WE CAN'T HAVE TIE"(not just me). I actually felt I did pretty well, although aparently not. I nailed nemesis, suspected Barundar, and the only one I didn't suspect was Chaoser. Was there anything that gave him away in particular? Anyway, since Incognito hasn't responded yet, I'd like to ask if anyone(paritcularly veterans) have anything to say in my pm to him? This game has been pretty interesting. Even though its only been two days, I still feel like I would have enough information to get this lynch right. However, I am clueless. I was wondering, if, after this game ends, you could shed your light on a number of things: A)What I should've been thinking B)Role of "Metagame" in Mafia-As in, would mafia stick their necks out? Is that wifomish? To what extent should I use that? Furthormore, how other people have played in previous games, to what extent should that be used in analyzing them. C) Role of "Dumb" townies. How should I do this? Do mafia usually stick their neck out? And can I even analyze based on what "mafia usually do", since they would change that anyway? For example I would think Jackal is mafia based on how much he's accusing me. But just because he's SO rash, and actually pretty active makes me think he's town. D)Generating information? Did I derail the thread or help? I thought I was generating information, but apparently I didn't. Anyway, if you would so kindly shed light on these issues, I'd be forever grateful. If you don't, its koo. | ||
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