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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
January 25 2011 00:10 GMT
#281
If anyone wants to replace in for Hesmyrr, or knows anyone who wants to replace in, shoot me a PM. Preferably, Hesmyrr would find his own replacement. Otherwise I'm just going to be forced to modkill.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
January 25 2011 00:18 GMT
#282
Well, at this point I've made my stance pretty clear, I dont think Pandain is mafia based on the analysis I did, nothing of his comes off as really scummy and its easy to mislynch day one, so I wont hold it against him (I thought LSB was fishy that day too). The thing is I'm really unsure about who is scum, just as in the start of the day the only person I was certain was town was Hesmyrr, he's still the only person I am convinced is town. I'm going to hold on to my vote for nemesis because he is the person I feel is the scummyest, but I'm not 100% sure(hell I'm not even 30% sure, but its all I have to go on), as far as I can tell mafia is GGQ, Nemesis and Barundar, I'm convinced jackal isn't mafia because if he is he is playing really poorly, mafia do not usually go hyper aggressive on us. GGQ just feels like he is lurking for me which is why he is on my mafia list for now.

and in all seriousness people, vote, its going to suck if half the people here are modkilled, no?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 25 2011 00:24 GMT
#283
On January 25 2011 07:50 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 07:23 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 25 2011 07:09 Pandain wrote:
I was serious on LSB too >.>. Sorry if I can't remember all of the 5 people I pressured.
And how could I have broken the tie with a vote on nemesis? If I switched to nemesis, Shockkey still would've gotten lynched.

As for my playstyle, I heavily disagree. I feel I have done well this game so far, albeit I admit whether Nemesis is mafia will determine just how well I've gone. I've been THE most active player this game, generated the most information(and how is it bad for town, getting people to talk is ALWAYS good).

Great, now if even one townie voted for me, we lose.

Jackal, if you're really serious about wanting me lynched, and not just mafia, then please respond to my coments to you. You still have really nothing that you yourself are lynching me for besides "I'm unlucky"(got one thing wrong? wtf?).

And still, I'm the only person actually trying to scum hunt. I'm the only person pressuring people.

How am I mafia?

You didn't miss one. You missed two. Shockevvy = green
LSB = Green and then BC mod killed = green. You were voting for all 3 at various times. Pushing hard for LSB and then voting Shockevvy when you were afraid of a tie. It's just too convenient.


Let's see:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184673&currentpage=9#162-say shockkey is town
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184673&currentpage=9#174
I THINK lsb is mafia

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=184673&currentpage=8#145
That is the only post in which I voted shockkey, and note how I said I don't think he's mafia, but didn't have anyone else to vote for. Later on I thought LSB was our best bet, so I tried for him.

As for BC, originally I thought he was scummy(and keep in mind when I say that I mean keeping in mind that its day1), but then when he was like "you guys have to learN" instead of the typical"I'm busy", that made me think he's town.

Are you really voting me because I was wrong on day1? Because I got ONE person wrong on day 1?

No you're scummy for encouraging a tie breaker when it was painfully obvious that BC was going to be mod killed.

On January 22 2011 12:58 Pandain wrote:
make a choice fast.
we can't have a tie

Why couldn't we? There are only 11 of us at the start. Why not have a tie? Why not let BC be mod killed and no lynch. If BC was red we win. If BC was green we lose 1. But you wanted 2. A freebie. There is no other reason for pushing a lynch 5 minutes before a mod kill was going to happen. Unless of course you're scum. If you were town your reasons make no sense what so ever and just by dumb luck we should have hit a red.

On January 22 2011 12:59 Pandain wrote:
Fadoodle
##Unvote LSB
##Vote Shockkey

And this one. Sure just in case BC does show up in the next five minutes you're making sure there is no possibility of a tie.

You are mafia. 100% through and through.

Life can only kill you once.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 25 2011 00:28 GMT
#284
Except again, I would rather lynch a person who wouldn't contribute THAT much anyway, than not lynch at all. And how am I encouraging a tie breaker? By trying to save Shockkey, who later turned green?

Finally, I thought BC was green. So I didn't want him lynched anyway.

What your doing right now is analyzing me in the MINDSET that I'm mafia, rather than in the mindset of "I'll find out." My actions make just as much sense when you put them in the perspective of "Pandain is town."

Finally, that was my vote, since no one else was changing. Since they didn't make a choice, I had to. And it was better to lynch an inactive, then not lynch at all.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 25 2011 00:29 GMT
#285
On January 25 2011 08:21 Pandain wrote:
1. Jackal58-What he says doesn't make alot of sense. He could just be really confused, but for instance saying I thought Shockkey was town. So either he is just not understanding everything, or is mafia.


I didn't say it. You said it.
On January 22 2011 02:08 Pandain wrote:
Finally, I've decided that I don't think Shockkey is scum. He's playing his norm, in fact, even has contributed more with a semi analysis of Nemesis. I think Hesmyrr is a far better person to vote considering he has barely talked at all.

Right there. And you said it again after that.

Hang this scum.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 25 2011 00:31 GMT
#286
On January 25 2011 09:28 Pandain wrote:
Except again, I would rather lynch a person who wouldn't contribute THAT much anyway, than not lynch at all. And how am I encouraging a tie breaker? By trying to save Shockkey, who later turned green?

Finally, I thought BC was green. So I didn't want him lynched anyway.

What your doing right now is analyzing me in the MINDSET that I'm mafia, rather than in the mindset of "I'll find out." My actions make just as much sense when you put them in the perspective of "Pandain is town."

Finally, that was my vote, since no one else was changing. Since they didn't make a choice, I had to. And it was better to lynch an inactive, then not lynch at all.

There are only two possible reasons for the way you played day 1. ! is you're mafia. 2 is you're an idiot. I think 1 is the most likely scenario.
Life can only kill you once.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 25 2011 00:32 GMT
#287
That's actually an honest mistake. You can tell by looking at the post above, which says "This is where I say Shockkey is town". You however said I was unlucky with Shockkey because I thought he was red.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 25 2011 00:32 GMT
#288
On January 25 2011 09:31 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 09:28 Pandain wrote:
Except again, I would rather lynch a person who wouldn't contribute THAT much anyway, than not lynch at all. And how am I encouraging a tie breaker? By trying to save Shockkey, who later turned green?

Finally, I thought BC was green. So I didn't want him lynched anyway.

What your doing right now is analyzing me in the MINDSET that I'm mafia, rather than in the mindset of "I'll find out." My actions make just as much sense when you put them in the perspective of "Pandain is town."

Finally, that was my vote, since no one else was changing. Since they didn't make a choice, I had to. And it was better to lynch an inactive, then not lynch at all.

There are only two possible reasons for the way you played day 1. ! is you're mafia. 2 is you're an idiot. I think 1 is the most likely scenario.


How about you actually answer the content rather than say "If you do that your an idiot".

I don't deny I'm an idiot, but at least show me the way.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 25 2011 00:33 GMT
#289
And my apologies if you think I'm too aggressive.I am aggressive.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 25 2011 00:38 GMT
#290
On January 25 2011 09:32 Pandain wrote:
That's actually an honest mistake. You can tell by looking at the post above, which says "This is where I say Shockkey is town". You however said I was unlucky with Shockkey because I thought he was red.

No. I said if you were town you were the unluckiest person ever. I've never commented on what you believe or why. My comments are all based on your day one rush to lynch. It only makes sense if you're red. Quit putting words in my mouth.

On January 25 2011 09:32 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 09:31 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 25 2011 09:28 Pandain wrote:
Except again, I would rather lynch a person who wouldn't contribute THAT much anyway, than not lynch at all. And how am I encouraging a tie breaker? By trying to save Shockkey, who later turned green?

Finally, I thought BC was green. So I didn't want him lynched anyway.

What your doing right now is analyzing me in the MINDSET that I'm mafia, rather than in the mindset of "I'll find out." My actions make just as much sense when you put them in the perspective of "Pandain is town."

Finally, that was my vote, since no one else was changing. Since they didn't make a choice, I had to. And it was better to lynch an inactive, then not lynch at all.

There are only two possible reasons for the way you played day 1. ! is you're mafia. 2 is you're an idiot. I think 1 is the most likely scenario.


How about you actually answer the content rather than say "If you do that your an idiot".

I don't deny I'm an idiot, but at least show me the way.

I did answer it. How much more clear can I be in my reasons? Flail all you want.
Life can only kill you once.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
January 25 2011 00:42 GMT
#291
GMarshal, Pandain is playing like he was playing in Insane Mafia this game. He usually at least has decent(although not the best) analysis in his town games.

And it would really suck if hesmyrr got modkilled :/
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 25 2011 00:54 GMT
#292
On January 25 2011 09:38 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 09:32 Pandain wrote:
That's actually an honest mistake. You can tell by looking at the post above, which says "This is where I say Shockkey is town". You however said I was unlucky with Shockkey because I thought he was red.

No. I said if you were town you were the unluckiest person ever. I've never commented on what you believe or why. My comments are all based on your day one rush to lynch. It only makes sense if you're red. Quit putting words in my mouth.

Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 09:32 Pandain wrote:
On January 25 2011 09:31 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 25 2011 09:28 Pandain wrote:
Except again, I would rather lynch a person who wouldn't contribute THAT much anyway, than not lynch at all. And how am I encouraging a tie breaker? By trying to save Shockkey, who later turned green?

Finally, I thought BC was green. So I didn't want him lynched anyway.

What your doing right now is analyzing me in the MINDSET that I'm mafia, rather than in the mindset of "I'll find out." My actions make just as much sense when you put them in the perspective of "Pandain is town."

Finally, that was my vote, since no one else was changing. Since they didn't make a choice, I had to. And it was better to lynch an inactive, then not lynch at all.

There are only two possible reasons for the way you played day 1. ! is you're mafia. 2 is you're an idiot. I think 1 is the most likely scenario.


How about you actually answer the content rather than say "If you do that your an idiot".

I don't deny I'm an idiot, but at least show me the way.

I did answer it. How much more clear can I be in my reasons? Flail all you want.


I said why am I unlucky. You said(or what did you mean) by that is because I thought shockkey was red.

On January 25 2011 07:23 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2011 07:09 Pandain wrote:
I was serious on LSB too >.>. Sorry if I can't remember all of the 5 people I pressured.
And how could I have broken the tie with a vote on nemesis? If I switched to nemesis, Shockkey still would've gotten lynched.

As for my playstyle, I heavily disagree. I feel I have done well this game so far, albeit I admit whether Nemesis is mafia will determine just how well I've gone. I've been THE most active player this game, generated the most information(and how is it bad for town, getting people to talk is ALWAYS good).

Great, now if even one townie voted for me, we lose.

Jackal, if you're really serious about wanting me lynched, and not just mafia, then please respond to my coments to you. You still have really nothing that you yourself are lynching me for besides "I'm unlucky"(got one thing wrong? wtf?).

And still, I'm the only person actually trying to scum hunt. I'm the only person pressuring people.

How am I mafia?

You didn't miss one. You missed two. Shockevvy = green
LSB = Green and then BC mod killed = green. You were voting for all 3 at various times. Pushing hard for LSB and then voting Shockevvy when you were afraid of a tie. It's just too convenient.


Here you say I'm unlucky because I missed three. However, I thought Shockkey and BC were green. So because I got one person wrong ON DAY 1, for the love of god its day 1, I'm red?

And what do you mean "day 1 rush to lynch"
Furthormore, how many times do I have to say that the day 1 analysis was mostly forced up until I offered Nemesis as a viable lynched, because I was just generating discussion.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 25 2011 00:55 GMT
#293
cross out i said why am i unlucky. I don't know what I mean by that
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 25 2011 01:07 GMT
#294
And what do you mean "day 1 rush to lynch"
Furthormore, how many times do I have to say that the day 1 analysis was mostly forced up until I offered Nemesis as a viable lynched, because I was just generating discussion.


On January 22 2011 12:58 Pandain wrote:
make a choice fast.
we can't have a tie



On January 22 2011 12:59 Pandain wrote:
Fadoodle
##Unvote LSB
##Vote Shockkey

That rush. Town was going lose 1. That wasn't good enough for you.
Life can only kill you once.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 25 2011 01:14 GMT
#295
Wth?
Just because someone was probably going to get modkilled means its suddenly okay if no lynch happens?

There was no discussion on BC(besides my SLIGHT accusation which I later revoked.) Him dying told us nothing. And I thought he was town.

Part of why lynches are so important is because it provides us information. Otherwise, we're still in the dark.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
January 25 2011 01:24 GMT
#296
##vote nemesis

Im going to go with my gut. Where the hell is ggq?

Bartundar
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 25 2011 01:25 GMT
#297
It's a numbers game. What were you going to learn from lynching a person you though was green when another person you thought was green was about to be mod killed? You weren't going to learn anything but you sure saw a shift in balance that availed itself to you. Gj.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 25 2011 01:26 GMT
#298
On January 25 2011 10:24 Barundar wrote:
##vote nemesis

Im going to go with my gut. Where the hell is ggq?


He'll show up 5 minutes before vote just like day 1.
He's #2 on my list.
Life can only kill you once.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 25 2011 01:31 GMT
#299
Yeah, so at the very least what do we find out:
Keeping in mind its day 1, meaning I'm only 60-75% sure he's town, meaning theres still a chance he's mafia. And at the very least a useless townie.
Keeping in mind that if BC, who i thought was green, died, then it would be as if we started off a townie down, and mafia got a free hit.

Keeping in mind that its better at the very least to lynch than not lynch, when a modkill won't gurantee us any information...

I don't see why you're so insistent on believing I'm mafia. Either your scum or tunneling, and need to think.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 25 2011 01:39 GMT
#300
On January 25 2011 10:31 Pandain wrote:
Yeah, so at the very least what do we find out:
Keeping in mind its day 1, meaning I'm only 60-75% sure he's town, meaning theres still a chance he's mafia. And at the very least a useless townie.
Keeping in mind that if BC, who i thought was green, died, then it would be as if we started off a townie down, and mafia got a free hit.

Keeping in mind that its better at the very least to lynch than not lynch, when a modkill won't gurantee us any information...

I don't see why you're so insistent on believing I'm mafia. Either your scum or tunneling, and need to think.

A lynch puts us into an almost immediate lylo on day 2. Why would a townie do that?
Life can only kill you once.
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