EPTRight now it is
6-3
5-3 (after tonight)
3-3 (the next day if we mislynch)
So next day is pretty much LYLO, unless medic succesfully protects someone. We need to be careful about the next lynch and not be too rash.
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
Right now it is 6-3 5-3 (after tonight) 3-3 (the next day if we mislynch) So next day is pretty much LYLO, unless medic succesfully protects someone. We need to be careful about the next lynch and not be too rash. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
@LSB, I didn't have time before the deadline to explain why I thought ShocCeyy's defense was worse than anyone else's. It's too late now, but I can still explain if you want. And yes, I would like you to answer Pandain's post. | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
* What I want to state first is that there is literally nothing distinguishing mafia going "oh look nobody is bandwagoning this guy so he must be inno!" from town going... well, you know what I am going to say. Shockeyy flipping green might seem favourable to Pandain and Barunder, but note that given choice between inactive, highly suspected townie and somewhat-active townie mafia obviously is going to aim for the latter. Thus LSB may as well be the good investigation target considering that his alignment somewhat gives indication on that of the other two. If LSB is town, their switch can be thought as minor scum-tells. If LSB is mafia, townie points to Pandain and Barunder. Something to keep in mind. Hesmyrr then votes, but he knows that his vote is useless. Not necessarily. It was 4-2-2-2, thought someone might actually switch and cause 3-3 and feign ignorance after causing a tie. Unlikely, but I like to cover all the bases. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 23 2011 03:52 Pandain wrote: While Hesmyrr is a good choice for medic protection, having only one possibility for medics to protect is a very bad idea. Medic, you should RNG between Hesmyrr and another person you think is blue/going to get hit. As for the DT check list, here's my list: Barundar-I agree, that vote switch did catch my attention. Something about him just isn't right. However, he has been performing analysis, but his playstyle has been off(for example, doesn't post as much.) LSB Has been playing suspiciously Jackal This guy really catches my eyes. Either he is just showing how he's new, or he's mafia. It's somewhat consistent with the previous game so that helps him a little, but as of now i think he's a good check. Check away. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
We spend a whole day discussing inactives, without getting any better candidates than Shockeyy. In my opinion we needed to make something happen, and hope for a mafia reaction. I picked LSB over Gmarshal beceause of his reasons for voting Shockeyy:+ Show Spoiler + On January 22 2011 03:55 LSB wrote: I'm going to support the Shockkey lynch because 1) Indirect FoS on Pandain. Pandain has detracted from his initial posts on activity back in XXXV, one possible explanation could be that Pandain is on a scum team with an inactive, shockeyy. […] On January 22 2011 05:38 LSB wrote: I'm going to say I don't like Pandain's butterfly flirting around the issue. He isn't actually committing to any position, besides lets not lynch shockeyy. How about we lynch shockeyy and see what Pandain thinks???? :D! It struck me as suspicious that he would vote Shockeyy, while suspecting Pandain. Firstly, the connection was too flimsy to be of real value, Shockeyy had simply used some of Pandain’s arguments, while Pandain had stated his opinion on Shockeyy. Secondly a mislynch could easily be explained as just a way of testing Pandain. Add to this that my initial analysis of Pandain is town. His playstyle resembles that from my last game with him, plenty of finger pointing and last minute vote switches, while trying to lead the town. All that’s missing is a fake claim. While it’s a moot point, I don’t see a reason for a mafia to draw attention to himself like that. Lastly I have had to /out of mafia xxxvi due to time constraints, but I'm doing my best to be active in this. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 23 2011 06:16 Barundar wrote: Regarding my vote switch, lack of activity around the day 2 key for a late switch onto annul in mafia xxxv. The sudden activity when LSB was actually pressured makes me regret it didn’t get through. We spend a whole day discussing inactives, without getting any better candidates than Shockeyy. In my opinion we needed to make something happen, and hope for a mafia reaction. I picked LSB over Gmarshal beceause of his reasons for voting Shockeyy:+ Show Spoiler + On January 22 2011 03:55 LSB wrote: I'm going to support the Shockkey lynch because 1) Indirect FoS on Pandain. Pandain has detracted from his initial posts on activity back in XXXV, one possible explanation could be that Pandain is on a scum team with an inactive, shockeyy. […] On January 22 2011 05:38 LSB wrote: I'm going to say I don't like Pandain's butterfly flirting around the issue. He isn't actually committing to any position, besides lets not lynch shockeyy. How about we lynch shockeyy and see what Pandain thinks???? :D! It struck me as suspicious that he would vote Shockeyy, while suspecting Pandain. Firstly, the connection was too flimsy to be of real value, Shockeyy had simply used some of Pandain’s arguments, while Pandain had stated his opinion on Shockeyy. Secondly a mislynch could easily be explained as just a way of testing Pandain. Add to this that my initial analysis of Pandain is town. His playstyle resembles that from my last game with him, plenty of finger pointing and last minute vote switches, while trying to lead the town. All that’s missing is a fake claim. While it’s a moot point, I don’t see a reason for a mafia to draw attention to himself like that. Lastly I have had to /out of mafia xxxvi due to time constraints, but I'm doing my best to be active in this. I concur with your analysis of Pandain. His play is almost identical to XXXV. An almost paranoid rush to change the vote in the last few minutes. I don't understand it but it is the same behavior. If I were on at the end of day yesterday I would have switched my vote to force a tie just to see if his head exploded. | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
Pandain said: "And I changed my vote so we didn't have a tie. Note if I was mafia, then if I had not done so, there would'be been no lynch." This seems to me to be faulty logic, mafia would have been more than happy to have a lynch as long as it wasn't one of them, in this case since it was a townie, there is no reason why mafia wouldn't have been more than satisfied to have a lynch rather than an abstention. I dont find the vote switch that suspicious, I find the idea that mafia would have preferred a no lynch to be faulty though. As far as giving blues instructions, I prefer not, you guys are smart enough to figure out what to do. Anything I might say would probably end up helping mafia more than town anyway. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On January 23 2011 07:56 Jackal58 wrote: I concur with your analysis of Pandain. His play is almost identical to XXXV. An almost paranoid rush to change the vote in the last few minutes. I don't understand it but it is the same behavior. If I were on at the end of day yesterday I would have switched my vote to force a tie just to see if his head exploded. Firstly, that behavior is decidedly anti town. Rushing off into a lynch that isn't thought out is a bad way to play and a great way to kill a lot of greens Secondly, it isn't unique to his town behavior. He does this every game, regardless of being mafia or town. The thing is, he's not to careful as mafia, and spends time defending scumbuddies. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 23 2011 11:11 LSB wrote: Firstly, that behavior is decidedly anti town. Rushing off into a lynch that isn't thought out is a bad way to play and a great way to kill a lot of greens Secondly, it isn't unique to his town behavior. He does this every game, regardless of being mafia or town. The thing is, he's not to careful as mafia, and spends time defending scumbuddies. It was a joke. I'm slowly getting a feel for the way various people approach this game. Pandains approach is akin to chicken little. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On January 23 2011 12:19 Jackal58 wrote: It was a joke. I'm slowly getting a feel for the way various people approach this game. Pandains approach is akin to chicken little. Wow I fail at sarcasm, kicks self for skimming | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.designfloat.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/City-of-Angels.jpg) Day 2 LSB the Townie is dead. It is now day 2. Day ends on Monday at 10 EST. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
For now I want to FoS Pandain and Barunder as both of them wanted to hang LSB who has now flipped green. Jackal58 also wrote an interesting accusation of Pandain earlier, which I think merits looking at, its on page 6 if anyone wants to look at it. TBH the only person I feel for sure is town right now is Hesmyrr. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On January 22 2011 12:54 Pandain wrote: 1.Bad logic, which wouldn't normally be bad but he's not new at all 2.Contradictory statements Not a great amount, but considering day 1 I think it's decent amount to lynch LSB. Yet you switched. On January 22 2011 12:58 Pandain wrote: make a choice fast. we can't have a tie Why couldn't we have a tie? At the point you posted this it was painfully obvious we were going to have a modkill. I'm just gonna keep sitting on you man. We have a 37% chance of lynching a red today. Unless we lynch you. Then it goes up to 100%. | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
On January 23 2011 22:39 Jackal58 wrote: Yet you switched. Why couldn't we have a tie? At the point you posted this it was painfully obvious we were going to have a modkill. I'm just gonna keep sitting on you man. We have a 37% chance of lynching a red today. Unless we lynch you. Then it goes up to 100%. What is this? Is this just bluster? Over-confidence for humour's sake? Or do you really think that your post justify's calling Pandain 100% confirmed scum? | ||
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