##Unvote Shockkey
##Vote LSB

Yeah shockkey isn't mafia. If you really think mafia have decided to just let us have a free kill on day 1 with NO resistance, that's a bit of a silly willy thought.

Posts LSB has made just have made me suspicious of him.

(Then again a side benefit if Shockeyy is red, Pandain is red)

He knows better than to think "if X defends Y, and y is mafia, X is definitely red"

2. I'd kill both. I've explained above in a different post.
But order of
Mafia Lurker>Inactive>Lurker

Hasn't shown shockkey to be mafia lurker

Indeed, saying things without actually contributing is a great way to find a mafia. An inactive may actually help, but a lurker just repeats nothing.

HEAVILY contradicts what he's been saying this whole time. Especially the above post for instance, and several others.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

January 22 2011 02:52 GMT

#163

also are we really gonna have 2 modkills

Barundar

Denmark1582 Posts

January 22 2011 03:16 GMT

#164

To be honest I agree. LSB voted for Shockeyy as an indirect FoS on Pandain, which seems like false logic to me. Shockeyy would be the perfect easy target for mafia, and LSB seems to have tried to bandwagon him without letting Shockeyy defend himself. Lastly it seems like noone has stepped forward to defend Shockeyy, except Pandain...

##Vote LSB

Hesmyrr

Canada5776 Posts

January 22 2011 03:25 GMT

#165

I explained why lynching Shockeyy is bad idea until further examining his behaviour. I promise I'll bandwagon the hell out of him in absence of any contribution & no mafia starts acting stupid. My thinking is just that he got further end of the stick b/c he is the one who repeatedly stated he was busy instead of parroting meaningless posts initially (seriously, there are players other than him that have not offered any comments about other players at all- active lurking which is just as dangerous and should be watched out.)

Are we seriously lynching one of the most active players on the basis that he is active & accused many players? True, Pandain may do as well focusing his efforts on single one of his suspects, but it is still d1 after all and he did much more than most of the players here. I'd at least let him leave a day to see how his opinion solidifies.

If town is really going for these two candidates then I am going to say GMarshal lynch is going to have just much merit.

"but he's being pro-town!" (the last post)

No, what he does is just quip basic pro-town ideas without any insightful opinion about other players at all, then votes for himself. Now, as a townie, knowing that it might be the last post you might make for a day, voting for yourself - confirmed town - is going to be the single worst move available. Why is he so afraid of voting for any of his suspects? Has he given any opinion about other players at all instead of asking others to do so? That vote screams of trying to look pro-town.

I am confident about this, at least it is just as justifiable as some candidates people are throwing around here. Vote GMarshal.

Nemesis

Canada2568 Posts

January 22 2011 03:35 GMT

#166

Ok wait, why are people voting for LSB?

This is a rather a bit of a weird bandwagon. There has been too much speculation on people's actions so far. It's day 1, and people are trying to analyze out of a few posts.

Shockeyy is pulling an OMGUS. Barundar is just bandwagoning. Pandain just seems to be flip flopping looking for a target that people are willing to follow him with.

Hesmyrr

Canada5776 Posts

January 22 2011 03:37 GMT

#167

(LSB)
Shockeyy
Pandain
Barunder

(GMarshal)
Hesmyrr
GMarshal

(Shockeyy)
Nemesis
LSB

(Pandain)
chaoser
Jackal58

NOT VOTING: BloodyC0bbler, GGQ

When is the deadline? Might try to iso LSB.

Hesmyrr

Canada5776 Posts

January 22 2011 03:42 GMT

#168

On January 22 2011 12:35 Nemesis wrote:
Ok wait, why are people voting for LSB?

This is a rather a bit of a weird bandwagon. There has been too much speculation on people's actions so far. It's day 1, and people are trying to analyze out of a few posts.

Shockeyy is pulling an OMGUS. Barundar is just bandwagoning. Pandain just seems to be flip flopping looking for a target that people are willing to follow him with.

Would you consider voting for GMarshal if someone else votes for him? I'd ask you to switch now but then it becomes 3-3 tie which is the last thing I want. Want to avoid LSB lynch for now since I did not analyze him much, and this bandwagon seems to have come out of nowhere.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

January 22 2011 03:45 GMT

#169

I don't think G marshal is mafia. While he hasn't been superb, he hasn't been bad either. Constantly contributed, generating new discussion. Usually mafia wants town to just stagnate in discussion.

The only thing worrying me about LSB's lynch is that barundar just suddenly changed from "I'ma do two analysis on shockkey, he's mafia", to "shockkey is just the easy lynch, let's vote lsb."

And normally I would be more upset with lynching an active player if everyone wasn't really talking. Thus far almost everyone has been posting a decent amount.

flamewheel

FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts

January 22 2011 03:46 GMT

#170

Vote Tally for Day 1:

ShoCkeyy (2): Nemesis, LSB

Pandain (2): Chaoser, Jackal58

GMarshal (2): Hesmyrr, GMarshal

LSB (3): ShoCkeyy, Pandain, Barundar

BloodyC0bbler and GGQ need to vote. Deadline is in 14 minutes.

Nemesis

Canada2568 Posts

January 22 2011 03:52 GMT

#171

On January 22 2011 12:42 Hesmyrr wrote:

Show nested quote +

I am not really sure about voting for Gmarshal. He seems to be trying a bit of forced activity, but at least he is trying, while shockeyy on the other hand has pretty much been useless.

Hesmyrr

Canada5776 Posts

January 22 2011 03:52 GMT

#172

My case against him was:
1. Bandwagon vote that specifically states that he is bandwagoning (that's why I went for you in that game you were scum too).

2. Indirectly derailing discussion.

3. Not yet to offer opinions on anyone else.

4. Self-vote.

What is yours? Since I'm afraid of tie my vote is unfortunately frozen for moment til someone else joins in, I'd appreciate it if you quickly provide your arguments against LSB too.

GGQ

Canada2653 Posts

January 22 2011 03:53 GMT

#173

I'm also worried about this lynch out of nowhere. I'm going to vote for the person that I feel made the least convincing defense, which is ShocCeyy. I also dislike his 'Kill me and you'll see!' defense.

##Vote ShocCeyy

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

January 22 2011 03:54 GMT

#174

On January 22 2011 12:52 Hesmyrr wrote:
My case against him was:
1. Bandwagon vote that specifically states that he is bandwagoning (that's why I went for you in that game you were scum too).

2. Indirectly derailing discussion.

3. Not yet to offer opinions on anyone else.

4. Self-vote.

What is yours? Since I'm afraid of tie my vote is unfortunately frozen for moment til someone else joins in, I'd appreciate it if you quickly provide your arguments against LSB too.

1.Bad logic, which wouldn't normally be bad but he's not new at all
2.Contradictory statements

Not a great amount, but considering day 1 I think it's decent amount to lynch LSB.

Hesmyrr

Canada5776 Posts

January 22 2011 03:55 GMT

#175

Village Idiot =/= Mafia
Inactive =/= Mafia

Either way this makes it a 3-3 tie (no lynch)

We might want to quickly negotiate, only 10 minutes left.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

January 22 2011 03:56 GMT

#176

frick your right.

The point I'm trying to make though is LSB is NOT a village idiot, he knows better than this.

GGQ

Canada2653 Posts

January 22 2011 03:57 GMT

#177

I'll unvote to avoid no lynching if necessary

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

January 22 2011 03:57 GMT

#178

I'd be willing to revote either one of them. Don't want to see a revote and I'm reconsidering my vote on pandain. What Hes said makes sense, mafia usually wouldn't want to draw that much attention to themselves by jumping all over voting people. Don't know how to pick over LSB and shockey