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On December 29 2010 08:39 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm getting a strong sense like there is an attempt to save LSB underway right now. We've had several different attempts to switch attention to people who I don't feel are remotely suspicious (i.e opz or brocket). These people are lurkers but I don't think they are overtly scummy. This really feels like a last minute attempt by the mafia to take the heat of LSB.
Go read the thread.
I claimed blue. Of course there is a strong attempt to divert the lynch
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On December 29 2010 09:09 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 09:00 Insanious wrote:
I want to make it clear that the Brocket vote is based on him posting 10+ times in the first 24 hours of pokemafia as a town, and only once in 48 hours here.
Brocket is NOT playing like he did in Pokemafia and that is fishy as he was town there... So he is something different now. Never should town lynch a total inactive. Town needs to be going after the lurkers, not the inactives. Not only do we gain nothing from Brockett's list, but add the fact that there are better people who are either showing signs of true scum or are seeming to contribute without actually contributing, unlike Brockett who isn't doing either. Scum usually want to seem to contribute.
Isn't Brockett lurking? He didn't contribute anything at all with his 1 post
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On December 29 2010 09:13 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 09:12 LSB wrote:On December 29 2010 09:09 Pandain wrote:On December 29 2010 09:00 Insanious wrote:
I want to make it clear that the Brocket vote is based on him posting 10+ times in the first 24 hours of pokemafia as a town, and only once in 48 hours here.
Brocket is NOT playing like he did in Pokemafia and that is fishy as he was town there... So he is something different now. Never should town lynch a total inactive. Town needs to be going after the lurkers, not the inactives. Not only do we gain nothing from Brockett's list, but add the fact that there are better people who are either showing signs of true scum or are seeming to contribute without actually contributing, unlike Brockett who isn't doing either. Scum usually want to seem to contribute. Isn't Brockett lurking? He didn't contribute anything at all with his 1 post No he's inactive. That's different from lurking. Lurkers are those who follow the thread but don't post, or who post but don't contribute. Brockett is just inactive. I'm still up for a D_3 lynch, but since that doesn't seem to happen anytime soon I guess I'll settle with LSB.
The difference is that inactives will forget to vote and will get modkillled.
Brockett won't do that. He's a lurker
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On December 29 2010 09:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Lemme sum up why brocket should be lynched "ZOMFG, he's posting different than in the last game he played!!111!!! He mus be red lynch himmm!!!111!!!... correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this brocket's second game? Isn't it to early to apply metagame?
Apply metagame to your analysis of me. Eh? Something doesn't jive.
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2 Minutes left? Good enough.
FOS RoL, Pandain and OpZ
Strangely they tried to divert the lynch off of OpZ
RoL and Pandain have been fishing my role hard
FOS Meapak and Annul
Annul with his horrid analysis and tunneling a blue
Meapak because he's been playing very weirdly and more of a yes man
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PMS with doctorH
He's either Red or the DT. Medics please protect him
+ Show Spoiler +All right, if you don't want to share your results, fine.
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
you could read my posts in the thread to know that
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Original Message From LSB:
Wait...
So what do you think the DTs should do with their results? Nothing?
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
i dont even see the point in that
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Original Message From LSB:
What about the everyone post in the thread at the same time idea?
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
and im not against dt's checking inactives, i'm against them claiming/publicly announcing their finds
+ Show Spoiler +If he's new, he's probably not red, as he's posting way to much for a newbie mafia.
Interesting that you're bringing up such a big deal about this. It actually leads me to believe that I'm on the right track.
Yo, my plans are gold, pure gold when I'm town. And I tell you, this plan is pure gold.
DTs are a great way to sort through the inactives. Just look at Pokemafia. Sure we might be able to pick off Kavdragon and DC with analysis, but there was wayyy to much inactives to deal with everyone.
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
It's too early to say but Mr.Wiggles seems to good to be true. I think he's more likely mafia than a smurf.
Information that can not be ignored? lol it's 100% absolutely inconclusive and irrelevant, it is just speculation that can't be built upon so thinking about it is a waste of time. most hypothetical "scumtells" are a complete waste of time.
No I think talking about the framer role is important becuase it's just another reason we shouldn't worship DT's and Blues. RoL is right, analysis is much better and more important and trying to get DT's to claim is just stupid. No I don't think you're scum, you always have a stupid plan it seems when you're town.
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Original Message From LSB:
Just saying, your little "let's discuss" the framers wasn't very informative either. I'll keep an eye out on Lunar Destiny then
Mr. Wiggles doesn't seem to be a smurf. His posting history is ligit. I'm getting a green read from him.
As for your replacement... It's not a scumtell, yet it is information that can't be ignored.
Common, you guys should have known something was up when L suddenly entered Insane when he hadn't played for ages.
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Original Message From DoctorHelvetica:
Not much really, but
On December 27 2010 14:17 LunarDestiny wrote:
Since there are many new players in the game, they will probably base their night actions, if they have blue roles, on advices of others.
Pandain did give out many good advices but I'll nitpick this one:
Show nested quote +
I like the idea that vig's shot should be decided by town. Unless vigs are veteran, the town are better figuring out who is scum. Also, shots from vigs aren't wasted if more than one shots at the same person are made.
I also want to discuss should vigs use their shots early to try to get lucky and kill mafia? Reducing mafia KP is very important and we also have two double lynch to compensate for lack of vig in the later in the game.
Just because it sounds like something I'd say if I were mafia to pretend i'm participating.
Also Mr.Wiggles seems almost too "informed" for a newbie, which makes me worry.
Also you're too smart to honestly believe that me being a replacement is a scumtell, are you serious?
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Original Message From LSB:
Hey, what was scummy about LunarDestiny?
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PMs with RoL+ Show Spoiler +The mystery intrigues me. I will give you your salvation, because I can always kill you later.
Also you have to be a DT now. If you can give me your evidence by the START of night 1 it means you only have 2 roles you could be. A medic (which you are sure you will do a successful protect) or a DT where you are guaranteed some amount of information.
You will get your stay of execution, but I will have you killed if you don't follow through. I know the general mafia claim strategy. Try to make people forget and focus on "better" targets always staving off that "sure" kill.
But I don't forget Mr. LSB. I never forget.
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Original Message From LSB:
You see. I don't go around telling people my role.
You already learned that from Harry potter mafia. The reason why I ordered a double stack on you in Harry Potter Mafia was because you hinted that you had an extra life.
I will give people proof at the start of night 2. If I do not provide the proof, just bomb me or Vig hit me.
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Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD:
So your not a mad hatter, lets narrow this down. Give me your role and your plan in the next PM or I am just going to put the last nail in your coffin. Right now I think you could be blue or red, I am just trying to see how you are going to make sense of this. I want a reason to kill someone else just give me something.
But seriously, I don't have much time left to write up a post and convince people so I need your plan and your role now, or we will find out in 7 hours.
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Original Message From LSB:
I'll just say my role is one of the four
1. Vigi
2. Doctor
3. Vet
4. DT
Each I can think of a way to prove my role. Some more shaky, but I guarantee I will be able to prove my role.
Lynching a blue is stupid anyways. I don't expect you to do that.
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Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD:
Then expect yourself to die. Do you honestly think I am red? If you don't claim to me I can't save you. Honestly how many people in this game right now do you think can take the focus off of you and put it on someone else? Give me some sense to keep you alive and I will make it happen.
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Original Message From LSB:
I'm not going to roleclaim... you know better than to expect me to do that.
But this is one of my good plans
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Original Message From RebirthOfLeGenD:
So what role can you prove by day 2? That is impossible. Nothing can be proven in this game. If I don't hear a damn good reason/plan I am getting behind your lynch. I have work in 3 hours and when I get back you will be dead so I need an answer asap.
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What town needs to do
1) DTs check the inactives. There is a lot this game. Most of the activity comes from a few people. Although it may seem like the thread moves fast, there are a lot of people not posting
2) Check out Annul, Meapak, RoL and Pandain a bit more closely
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Oh wait. I fail at math.
W/e people are still going to lynch me. I'm going to continue my dump.
FOS= Finger of Suspicion. = I think he's mafia
EBWOP= Edit by way of Post = I can't edit, so I'm making a new post that has the edits
(Hmmm for my 2000th post, I might as well make a list of mafia terminology)
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I did the vote count, looks like its 10 to 8.
People voting Annul. Please switch your votes to Brocket!
Annul isn't going to be lynched anytime soon.
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It's not pressure votes anymore, it's taking off people who won't be active in the town.
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On December 29 2010 10:24 Barundar wrote:
He is as scummy as Kenpachi when posting
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On December 29 2010 10:30 annul wrote:
seriously the brocket vote has to be the dumbest idea possible at this stage in the game
why are we effectively giving up our day 1 vote? this is such a horrible idea it isnt even funny. what will killing brocket gain us? what information? none. none whatsoever.
taking down LSB however will give us a multitude of information.
When I go down, I want Annul to be lynched.
I'm thinking he's red on a suicide mission to take me down, and then hoping that the town will let him loose as they dismiss what he did as 'tunnel vision'
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On December 29 2010 10:47 Barundar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 10:31 Insanious wrote:On December 29 2010 10:24 Barundar wrote:
I understand you want to save yourself, but Brocket is the worst scapegoat you could possibly find. He is as scummy as Kenpachi when posting, and now he is even afk. Voting him is the same as abstaining, and really gets us nowhere. Between Brocket and LSB, I would much much much rather Brocket dead then LSB... There really isn't another choice now due to time constraints... Annul brought us to this point, a 1 person bandwaggon is pretty much the worst thing that can happen to the town. 0 analysis can be done concerning votes, mafia can hide where ever they want to when voting for a town... You need at least 2 candidates every day for voting or it might as well just be a random.org vote. LSB has a high chance of being a blue, and killing a blue, especially early is terrible.\ Brocket is most likely green or a lurking mafia... and since there have been 4 people comming out of no where to defend Brocket it makes me think Brocket is even more red. You wan't to save him beceause of a blue claim? LSB is experienced enough to blueclaim if he is mafia. He should also be experienced enough to not omgus vote, and claim he owed it to the town.
What's the deal with omgus being bad?
Firstly mine wasn't an omgus.
Secondly. If your going to blindly assuming that everyone attacking bad analysis is red... well... I have no words
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On December 29 2010 10:48 Pandain wrote:
If LSB flips red- Great! We caught probably at least 3-4 scum who tried to swing the bandwagon onto Brockett, in addition to information from posting. Furthormore we caught a scum!
Just to give you something to chew on.
Last time I was red and I got pushed day one. That was pokemafia
And it was completely orchestrated. Everyone who attacked me was either mafia, or working with me. Everyone who defended me was town.
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On December 29 2010 10:55 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 10:52 LSB wrote:On December 29 2010 10:48 Pandain wrote:
If LSB flips red- Great! We caught probably at least 3-4 scum who tried to swing the bandwagon onto Brockett, in addition to information from posting. Furthormore we caught a scum!
Just to give you something to chew on. Last time I was red and I got pushed day one. That was pokemafia And it was completely orchestrated. Everyone who attacked me was either mafia, or working with me. Everyone who defended me was town. And was there a huge counter bandwagon at the last second?  I can also share an example. insane mafia, me and ace are about to be lynched, and we're both mafia. At the last second I swing a massive bandwagon onto KtheZ.
There actually wasn't a huge counter bandwagon.
It just consisted of Meapak (the mayor) deciding not to vote for me because RoL told him not to.
I would have died, if not for RoL.
Thanks!
As for insane mafia. The town consisted of sheep and some crazy people with guns and bombs
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On January 17 2011 12:58 bumatlarge wrote:
Man LSB was right -_- I dont even feel like going through this game to see all the things town did wrong, but the lack of blues was really cruel.
I'm going to instill some sort of safeguard against this in XXXVI, I'll see what I can cook up.
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On January 17 2011 13:03 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 12:58 bumatlarge wrote:
Man LSB was right -_- I dont even feel like going through this game to see all the things town did wrong, but the lack of blues was really cruel. I hurt town. I never was able to establish any credibility.Even today mafia was either me and somebody else or me and somebody else.
You voted for Brocket! That means you were smarter than most of the town!
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On January 17 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote:
why (RB), Brocket (Framer), and d3_crescentia, annul (GF), and Tevo were Mafia.
As we already know, LSB, RebirthOfLeGenD, and Insanious were Veterans.
~OpZ~ was our Mafia Vigilante.
Everybody else was a townie.
So what was the purpose of this game?
The puprose of the game was to have a few smart/active people in the town be able to stay alive longer by making them veterans.
However, this was foiled as one person was lynched, one person was shot by the town, and the third gave up in frustration.
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