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On December 29 2010 09:09 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 09:00 Insanious wrote:
I want to make it clear that the Brocket vote is based on him posting 10+ times in the first 24 hours of pokemafia as a town, and only once in 48 hours here.
Brocket is NOT playing like he did in Pokemafia and that is fishy as he was town there... So he is something different now. Bad reason why. There are so many reasons people act differently. There can be RL issues, he's just trying something new, and just add the fact that its the holidays and he's probably on vacation. Never should town lynch a total inactive. Town needs to be going after the lurkers, not the inactives. Not only do we gain nothing from Brockett's list, but add the fact that there are better people who are either showing signs of true scum or are seeming to contribute without actually contributing, unlike Brockett who isn't doing either. Scum usually want to seem to contribute. Not to mention that just because he has a different posting style(which could just be because he's busy) is no reason to actually lynch someone when we have people like LSB who if you really don't think is scum perhaps then you should fully read my analysis  . LSB knows better than to lynch someone like this, I believe you know better than to lynch someone like this. Brocket is lurking not inactive he votes and posted no mod kill. His posting style is very different I mean if he doesn't have enough time to login in 48 hours he shouldn't be playing this.
LHell in pokemafia 4 of the 6 mafia only voted never posted. Only two mafia were active. So no, mafia aren't usually active. Hell not voting inactives was the reason we lost pokemafia we only voted active players and we just killed all the useful town. I don't want to reapet that here.
Brocket is posting different exacrlt like a mafia in pokemafia and in pokemafia the mafia won. He hasdnt played a lot of mafia games so that might have been hius only or his best reference for good mafia pkay.
He is lurking, won't be mod killed. He is lurking, not inactive. He is posting like a pokemafia mafia... He just seems more red to me then LSB
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On December 29 2010 09:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Lemme sum up why brocket should be lynched "ZOMFG, he's posting different than in the last game he played!!111!!! He mus be red lynch himmm!!!111!!!... correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this brocket's second game? Isn't it to early to apply metagame? and the reason why we should vote for LSB being "Annul says he is red. HE IS RED!!!! KILL HIM!!!" Is any better?
At least Brocket logic is Brocket is playing exactly like the mafia in the mafia game he last played. Is better logic then LSB spammed and is therefore scum...
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On December 29 2010 10:04 TheMango wrote:
Dont we have 2 hours left till voting closes? Also, can someone please explain the acronyms people have been using? FOS, EBWOP, etc
Yes we have 2 hours left till end of vote
FoS = Finger of Suspision its calling people out without voting for them
EBWPO = Edit by way of post, its because you are not allowed to edit posts here, so you post right after with EBWPO in it to show its editing the post above.
DT = Detective
Red = Mafia
Blue = Town with a power
Green = Vanilla town
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On December 29 2010 10:05 LSB wrote:
Oh wait. I fail at math.
W/e people are still going to lynch me. I'm going to continue my dump.
FOS= Finger of Suspicion. = I think he's mafia
EBWOP= Edit by way of Post = I can't edit, so I'm making a new post that has the edits
(Hmmm for my 2000th post, I might as well make a list of mafia terminology)
Its 9 votes LSB, 8 votes Brocket right now so its not that far away from you not dying...
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On December 29 2010 10:16 Barundar wrote:
Sigh what is the point of putting pressure by votes on a player who is clearly afk, this shortly before the day ends?
Its not pressure votes, its votes to have LSB not die tonight so he can prove he is a blue later... and we have a possability of hitting a red.
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There is still 2 hours left to vote, its not over yet... we just need to get some people to switch from LSB to Brocket, we have 2 hours...
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On December 29 2010 10:24 Barundar wrote:
I understand you want to save yourself, but Brocket is the worst scapegoat you could possibly find. He is as scummy as Kenpachi when posting, and now he is even afk. Voting him is the same as abstaining, and really gets us nowhere.
Between Brocket and LSB, I would much much much rather Brocket dead then LSB... There really isn't another choice now due to time constraints...
Annul brought us to this point, a 1 person bandwaggon is pretty much the worst thing that can happen to the town. 0 analysis can be done concerning votes, mafia can hide where ever they want to when voting for a town...
You need at least 2 candidates every day for voting or it might as well just be a random.org vote.
LSB has a high chance of being a blue, and killing a blue, especially early is terrible.\
Brocket is most likely green or a lurking mafia... and since there have been 4 people comming out of no where to defend Brocket it makes me think Brocket is even more red.
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On December 29 2010 10:30 annul wrote:
seriously the brocket vote has to be the dumbest idea possible at this stage in the game
why are we effectively giving up our day 1 vote? this is such a horrible idea it isnt even funny. what will killing brocket gain us? what information? none. none whatsoever.
taking down LSB however will give us a multitude of information.
What information?
If he is red... it tells us absolutely nothing. Not who is Red, not who to look for, gives nothing. The only person defending him is me, and a Red wouldn't actively defend another Red. Links people too much, so it gives you nothing.
If he is blue, it means that I am smart and you should never ever ever be listened to because you don't listen to reason and your instincts are wrong.
Lynching LSB is a terrible idea until he can prove if he is or isn't a blue...
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On December 29 2010 10:34 annul wrote:
btw look at the voting thread.
shockey, georgeclooney, d3_crescentia, tevo
all gonna be modkilled for illegal voting too
Voting for self is not illigal... where does it say that?
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4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game. No illigal voting, they survive.
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On December 29 2010 11:02 annul wrote:
oh wow, voting for self is NOT illegal in this game?
isnt it like always illegal?
wasn't in pokemafia, hasn't been in any mafia I have read yet...
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Um... LSB is lynched isn't he. I thought it was who ever has the most votes, not majority as in need 15 of 30...
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So LSB fliped blue... here is my current game plan:
1) Vote Paindain because of how he acted when we started to vote for someone that wasn't LSB. This to me seems like the mafia are trying to get a 5th KP by killing LSB a claimed blue who is active. So Paindain looks like the most like a mafia to me.
2) Ignoring Annul for rest of game. He got tunnel vision towards a blue, who even if he was red we shouldn't of voted for right now, we should of voted for in 2 days. He had a bad gut feeling, and ignored when people put forth good reasoning to not follow that gut feeling. Annul is about 99% likely to be a green. So he shouldn't be voted for... just ignored 99% of the time unless he finds something increadibly useful... not likely to happen after this debacle.
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Also... told you so... Annul listen to me more... I looked at this logically, you were attacking LSB. You were obviously wrong like 15 pages ago.
Brocket and Paindrain... one of them is Red and I assume its Paindrain.
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Also... just saying. We have like 20 pages of thread to go through after day 1... and 99% of it is useless.
Anything by LSB and Annul should be ignored, and those guys have like half the thread in posts.
Anything by me should also be ignored... since I was defending the blue.
Now what does that leave us with? Like maybe 100 posts.
Cut out the welcome spam, and we are down to like 50 posts to look through.
To actually find anything in there to find a Red is not going to happen.
Paindrain needs to be looked at, and he's the only one looking scummy
But guess what... I bet you out of the like 15 lurkers we have, 4 - 5 will be mafia since... oh ya, we don't vote or pressure lurkers.
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@Mr.Zergling
There is nothing to analyze... this is what I wanted to say...
Analysis of Voting:
- None, mafia can be hiding anywhere. People voting LSB are most likely town, people voting Brocket are most likely town
Analysis of Thread: Since Me, Annul, and LSB make up 33% of the total posts in this thread...
Of the rest of the posts... there are like 60 posts by lurkers (1 - 4 posts each)
Then there are like 20 posts by coagulation that was replaced
Then there are like 100 posts before the game started...
So this leaves us with like maybe 200 posts to go through since page 1...
What did I tell you about voting Annul, bad idea, worst idea. Better to vote a random...
Why?
because of this situation, we are down a blue, we have 0 analysis to go through... I mean hell... the two people that were trying to kill people (me and annul) are town.
So ya... the only other people that talked about anything were
RoL
Paindrain
so ya... RoL = replacement, super exerienced, and doesn't look scummy
Paindrain = scummyest of the active players... but even then, not that scummy.
We are back to knowing nothing, no analysis, and no options.
At least with LSB we would have a blue and an active poster here.
This isn't helping the town, but it helps me venting... back to the game.
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^^^ no editing posts, even if you just bold the text.
And why put a bomb on me? I was a town trying to save a town, while the rest of you were trying to kill a blue... what makes me so red?
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^^^ no editing posts, even if you just bold the text.
And why put a bomb on me? I was a town trying to save a town, while the rest of you were trying to kill a blue... what makes me so red?
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On December 29 2010 13:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
I will post my analysis later tonight I have a friend coming over and am not completely caught up. Here is what it is in a nutshell. Exactly what you said. You seemed WAY too sure that LSB was town. The kind of certainty that only a mafia would have who is going to try to appear to be the only person who was being sane when the lynch came back wrong.
I was NOT sure LSB was a town, and I posted that at least 4 times. What I was SURE of, was that lynching LSB now was a bad idea.
LSB is red, and we have a sure lynch on day 3
LSB is blue, and town is better off.
Lynching LSB now was the worst person to lynch... People didn't listen. Litterally LSB was a bad lynch now, and an amazing lynch on day 3 if he couldn't prove himself.
On top of that you tried switching votes to Brocket because of some shitty "he was active in pokemafia" reasoning. Isn't basing lynching on previous actions > lynching on poor analysis. Brocket was a very active and aggressive player when he was town. Now he wasn't even posted like anything. He is acting super different, to me this means he is a different role.
Now also in Pokemafia, the mafia totally destroyed the town by being inactive. Posting like once and voting every day. This is how the mafia won in the game, and that is how I see Brocket playing this game so far.
To follow that up, you also ignored my analysis on Seraph which would of given you a GOOD switch candidate.
I didn't want an active, experienced player to die this early... too bad that didn't work out. In Pokemafia we(town) killed ourselves by voting for active experienced players. Town lost that game because we had no one playing at the end. We need active experienced players playing the game.
Seraph hasn't posted that scummily yet, maybe he will show up more like scum later. But he sure is posting and that is better then the 15 players that are letting the mafia hide within them.
So let me get this strait, you don't want LSB/Annul to die and are so SURE they are innocent so you want to change vote to someone completely random as opposed to another analysis that was posted? It doesn't make sense unless you want to appear like you were looking out for the town but don't want to implicate the other mafia who heavy suspicion was thrown onto.
Annul is green, look at the way he posted. How he went after LSB. This is just like a lot of other greens, they get vocal and voracious so that people listen to them and they can draw fire from the mafia. A mafia and a blue would be too scared to speak that much for fear of being hit in the night. He is a green.
LSB was 50/50 red or blue. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, because to me he was blue until night 2 where he was going to prove he was blue. If he didn't prove it, he was red, and no harm done. This means LSB was 100% either blue or red, with a 100% chance of dying if he was red on day 3. No reason to look at him anymore, move on.
This means we were looking at 2 terrible candidates and needed to look else where, how hard is that to see...
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On December 29 2010 13:11 annul wrote:
god fucking damn it
tell me, how can you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a veteran?
1) Get vet to hit LSB
2) LSB lives
done, he is vet.
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On December 29 2010 13:20 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2010 13:11 annul wrote:
god fucking damn it
tell me, how can you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a veteran? 1) Get vig to hit LSB 2) LSB lives done, he is vet.
EBWOP
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