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On January 11 2011 13:03 Pigsquirrel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 12:56 LSB wrote:
Good point.
I'm cool with a Day 1 Pardon plan then if no good target shows up. Adding to above, LSB agrees right away with a plan that, according to the post directly above him, "then pardoning the day one lynch gives the mafia the role of their choice" It's a real gamble to pardon day 1 lynch unless we know whether or not CC is scum, or even who the copy cat is. If the CC did not pick who he was supposed to and it was taken by scum later in the draft, we are screwed if the mafia gets a hidden bonus KP. I think we need to lynch a useless (to the mafia) role on day 1 to eliminate the risk of scum getting a copy of a dangerous role.
How is it a gamble to pardon? Pardoning is a scum role so if we force a pardon then they get to choose who to kill. We'll also know that the person who got pardoned is mafia and we can just use CPR Doc. on him. Also Pardoner can only use once so we don't have to worry about anymore of those.
I also suggest at night that the doctors should protect the CPR Doc. On the first night so that CC doesn't get CPR Doc if he is mafia.
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On January 11 2011 13:11 LayOffRage wrote:
##Vote: Fishball
I view him most likely to be the traitor.
But if he's traitor then CC gets the traitor as well then we have to deal with that again. If you think that Fishball is a traitor then maybe the next day.I really do not want to deal with another traitor.
There are so many accusations on different people being the traitor  I understand that we need to deal with that after this first death because CC will get traitor.
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On January 11 2011 13:13 Pigsquirrel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 13:10 Beneather wrote:On January 11 2011 13:03 Pigsquirrel wrote:On January 11 2011 12:56 LSB wrote:
Good point.
I'm cool with a Day 1 Pardon plan then if no good target shows up. Adding to above, LSB agrees right away with a plan that, according to the post directly above him, "then pardoning the day one lynch gives the mafia the role of their choice" It's a real gamble to pardon day 1 lynch unless we know whether or not CC is scum, or even who the copy cat is. If the CC did not pick who he was supposed to and it was taken by scum later in the draft, we are screwed if the mafia gets a hidden bonus KP. I think we need to lynch a useless (to the mafia) role on day 1 to eliminate the risk of scum getting a copy of a dangerous role. How is it a gamble to pardon? Pardoning is a scum role so if we force a pardon then they get to choose who to kill. We'll also know that the person who got pardoned is mafia and we can just use CPR Doc. on him. Also Pardoner can only use once so we don't have to worry about anymore of those. I also suggest at night that the doctors should protect the CPR Doc. On the first night so that CC doesn't get CPR Doc if he is mafia. No. I'm saying that pardoning day 1 lynch is a gamble because if CC is scum, mafia gets a free role of their choice. What do we get from pardoning day 1? Using up a scummy role's power. What's the risk: Potentially giving scum a free copy of whatever role they want. Doesn't seem worth it to me, especially considering that we can just pardon day 2 and get all the benefit without giving scum a free role.
But how do they know they know who has what role? No one followed the plan. So they have no real way of knowing what they will get. Also if they hit some who has BP or protection they lose their KP but we also have to worry about the SK and his KP.
Pardoning Day 2 is safer, I agree with that.
[green]There is 2 KPs at night and there's a pardon on day one ? Then who's kill goes first SK or Mafia's? If it's SK then CC gets the role of whoever SK killed?
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There is 2 KPs at night and there's a pardon on day one? Then who's kill goes first SK or Mafia's If it's SK then CC gets the role of whoever SK Killed right?
Sorry I forgot the ending for the green code 
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Omg! How do we know who is CC?!
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What happens if we do send Deconduo to LayOffRage and the mafia hits him and he's traitor does the CPR Doctor kill him or save him?
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But wouldn't it make sense to find out who is lying since Jackal made the statement. We can always just Vote LoR and just get a role check on Jackal. To see who is lying right?
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I think that LoR would be a better lynch.
##Vote: LayOffRage
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Lool, Wait CC doesn't get Vanilla Townie I thought it was first death
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On January 13 2011 14:08 kitaman27 wrote:I fear the day vig might try to take me out due to inferiority complex
The day vig is dead...
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##Vote Abstain
I haven't been reading much cause of school so I really don't think I can choose on who to vote for. Who has GodFather didn't Kenpachi claim godfather? If LSB is scum he's most likely to be a vanilla scum if he followed his own plan. Then there's a chance of kitaman7 or Fishball of being traitor, but Fishball is the most suspicious to what everyone is saying.
Really hard to choose Abstaining would be the best for me IMO.
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On January 15 2011 07:39 Pigsquirrel wrote:
##vote BloodyCobbler
If decon doesn't shoot I will change to him.
So your going to make decon shoot himself? LOL
Serious note: From reading a little bit more. I rather kill LSB he came up with his plan which and put GodFather last which is really stupid because Mafia is obviously not the brightest idea. GodFather is the def. of mafia role.
[b]##Unvote: Abstain[b]
[b]##Vote: LSB[b]
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##Unvote: Abstain
##Vote: LSB
sorry wrong format..
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Lol I I just noticed My BAD!
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On January 17 2011 15:39 aidnai wrote:Regarding Bum/BC: Bum, I'm completely aware of the possibility of Fishball being bussed. Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 11:43 aidnai wrote:
So, having our medic roleblock is kind of annoying... Not sure how we'll be able to use Kita's vig role safely now. :/
It sounds like Fishball is giving up, if that is the case and he is in fact traitor/scum, we should expect that he is being bussed and people that are on his wagon are not necessarily in the clear. Due to all the circumstantial evidence, it really does look like Fish must be the traitor, and most likely he's already been recruited. BC's psychoanalysis is interesting, but not as convincing to me as the other evidence that has piled up.
##Vote Fishball
Fishball, if you're town and you don't want to defend yourself, at least give us some ideas to look into once you flip green. And, I have also pointed out reasons why I think BC is scum, some of which have yet to be addressed by BC (maybe he doesn't find me threatening enough to warrant a response). On the other hand, I agree with his posts on deconduo and fishball. All this to say, Fishball is a solid target for today, and if BC wants to push your lynch tomorrow or whatever, we'll analyze the evidence and decide at that point. In the meantime, the real point of my post... Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 14:27 JimboSilvers wrote:
Only have a moment but I took a hit last night. For now start looking at the people I accused. I'll be back sometime monday and can address the situation fully then. Well, this includes me, but I'm not going to analyze myself other than to reiterate, my crappy posting day 1 was due to my other mafia game driving me crazy, and I believe I've turned it around since then. I'm gonna focus on the following post. Show nested quote +On January 15 2011 17:19 JimboSilvers wrote:
Damn this is getting interesting. So I guess since deconduo is confirmed CC now, its unlikely we have a CPR doc unless someone was ballsy enough to pick it when it was pretty clear deconduo was going to pick it. So we might have 3 SKs unless the 4th hit last night was from a JOAT.
Deconduo should hit beneather. I'm pretty sure he's scum. Why? He's damn useless and posts only questions, one liners, doubt posts, and posts that just seems like he's trying to act. He doesn't offer any strong opinions, and offers questions on pointless information. And after he poses the questions, he never follows up and offers insight. His voting record is also laughable, he votes for LayOffRage day 1, and abstains day 2. He also has no acceptable reasoning for either of his votes.
kitaman should hit Fishball. Why? First off, this confirms kitas role and targets a troublemaker. If fishball flips traitor, then kita is confirmed innocent otherwise the hit wouldn't go through and fishball would be recruited instead. This is unlikely though, as I think Fishball is just plain scum. Hes been useless, calls out a bunch of people calling them scum with little reason. Although his play can be interpreted as "he's just having fun", he is active yet doesn't contribute. He stirs the pot when there is already chaos in the air, and doesn't do anything to actually help the town. Burn his ass.
For the third hit (CPR Doc/3rd SK), I propose zeks. This just reminds me of someone who is hiding. Said some stuff earlier about LSB's plan, announced his number, and announced that "I'll say that I'll be taking one of Alignment Cop, Tracker, Mason or Witch." Well its time for him to crawl out of your cave there, because for being an investigative role hes pretty clueless. Hes obviously not the witch. Either way, if hes any of the other roles he should state which one he is right now. Otherwise we should just shoot him. The rest of his posts have a common theme with the other above targets. Useless and insightless. He votes with flimsy reasoning on day 1, and didn't vote day 2. I was quite surprised by the zeks hit last night, I forgot that Jimbosilvers had recommended it to our unknown extra KP role. But good call on that one Jimbo... and Fishball is looking pretty good atm as well. As for Beneather, he's been absent for 30 something hours (since the LSB day vig hit). I completely misread Beneather the last game I played with him (he was blue I thought red) so I haven't payed enough attention to him until now, but going through his posts now Jimbo's summary of his posting this game is absolutely accurate. I will go ahead and re-recommend this hit for either decon/kita tonight. Here's smattering of his non-one-liner posts. Notice how pretty much all of these start with "But what about this..." and are always bringing up some inane possibilty such as me being traitor or copycat getting the traitor role etc. + Show Spoiler +On January 11 2011 06:49 Beneather wrote:
HaploPaithan you have to have reasons on why we have you can't just blindly say something with out any reason to back up your statement. That's just basically 1 line spamming.
Why do we have to worry about CopyCat he will only copycat someone that has a good role and that he knows it for sure or he'll be just wasting his powers blindly and might get some bad role or something. The only time CopyCat will work is if people start claiming and he can just copycat that role if it's good also it would be good to see if their lying about their role. It really can be used as a Detective tool as well.
So what are you thinking that CopyCat is a bad role ? On January 11 2011 12:14 Beneather wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 12:08 bumatlarge wrote:
##Aidnai
An easy choice. If hes not mafia, then fishball's speculation loses some cred, and it would seem mroe likely he picked traitor (still waiting for layoff to post his reasons why), but if aidnai is red, there could be easy scum lynches in that little pack. It's an opportunity on 1st lynch. Doesn't happen all that often. If I'm not corrected but if Aidnai does have traitor then the Copy Cat power works and that person gets traitor as well. Do we really want to work on another traitor? Honestly I wouldn't. We have to be very careful of our first lynch if we lynch a traitor then CopyCat gets that role and we have another traitor. We really just don't want Copy Cat getting the role traitor from our first lynch. On January 11 2011 12:29 Beneather wrote:
Sure we can release Deconduo but one problem... How will we know who is the CopyCat? Also if he doesn't do as we say we can just lynch him and we get rid of the dangerous CPR Doctor.
The only one I can see the pardoner being used to save someone to be lynched is if they were mafia. That is a really strong mafia role. As it saves the mafia and then they can just use their KP at night saving that person for another day. On January 11 2011 12:54 Beneather wrote:
But if a townie is being lynched then doesn't that mean that the majority of the town agree that this person is scum/traitor. Really if the person does pardon them it means that person is even more of a chance of being scum. I think if the person gets pardoned we should just get our CPR Doc. to just kill him. On January 11 2011 13:02 Beneather wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 12:56 kitaman27 wrote:On January 11 2011 12:36 LSB wrote:
Jackal58 should be the copycat.
But as for the pardoner, I agree that the role should be used early to prevent mafia from using it late game to pull off a lylo win. At the same time though, it can prevent a townie from being lynched. At the same time, if the copycat is scum, then pardoning the day one lynch gives the mafia the role of their choice. Either way, would like hear more from Jackal. ##Vote LayOffRage Maybe this might motivate him join the discussion. But how would they have the role of their choice if they do not know who picked what in the draft since people didn't follow the LSB's plan. If they did and got Copy Cat + Pardoner they could easily have got the role that they wanted, but luckily people didn't. On January 11 2011 13:10 Beneather wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 13:03 Pigsquirrel wrote:On January 11 2011 12:56 LSB wrote:
Good point.
I'm cool with a Day 1 Pardon plan then if no good target shows up. Adding to above, LSB agrees right away with a plan that, according to the post directly above him, "then pardoning the day one lynch gives the mafia the role of their choice" It's a real gamble to pardon day 1 lynch unless we know whether or not CC is scum, or even who the copy cat is. If the CC did not pick who he was supposed to and it was taken by scum later in the draft, we are screwed if the mafia gets a hidden bonus KP. I think we need to lynch a useless (to the mafia) role on day 1 to eliminate the risk of scum getting a copy of a dangerous role. How is it a gamble to pardon? Pardoning is a scum role so if we force a pardon then they get to choose who to kill. We'll also know that the person who got pardoned is mafia and we can just use CPR Doc. on him. Also Pardoner can only use once so we don't have to worry about anymore of those. I also suggest at night that the doctors should protect the CPR Doc. On the first night so that CC doesn't get CPR Doc if he is mafia. On January 11 2011 13:16 Beneather wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 13:11 LayOffRage wrote:
##Vote: Fishball
I view him most likely to be the traitor. But if he's traitor then CC gets the traitor as well then we have to deal with that again. If you think that Fishball is a traitor then maybe the next day.I really do not want to deal with another traitor. There are so many accusations on different people being the traitor I understand that we need to deal with that after this first death because CC will get traitor. On January 11 2011 13:21 Beneather wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2011 13:13 Pigsquirrel wrote:On January 11 2011 13:10 Beneather wrote:On January 11 2011 13:03 Pigsquirrel wrote:On January 11 2011 12:56 LSB wrote:
Good point.
I'm cool with a Day 1 Pardon plan then if no good target shows up. Adding to above, LSB agrees right away with a plan that, according to the post directly above him, "then pardoning the day one lynch gives the mafia the role of their choice" It's a real gamble to pardon day 1 lynch unless we know whether or not CC is scum, or even who the copy cat is. If the CC did not pick who he was supposed to and it was taken by scum later in the draft, we are screwed if the mafia gets a hidden bonus KP. I think we need to lynch a useless (to the mafia) role on day 1 to eliminate the risk of scum getting a copy of a dangerous role. How is it a gamble to pardon? Pardoning is a scum role so if we force a pardon then they get to choose who to kill. We'll also know that the person who got pardoned is mafia and we can just use CPR Doc. on him. Also Pardoner can only use once so we don't have to worry about anymore of those. I also suggest at night that the doctors should protect the CPR Doc. On the first night so that CC doesn't get CPR Doc if he is mafia. No. I'm saying that pardoning day 1 lynch is a gamble because if CC is scum, mafia gets a free role of their choice. What do we get from pardoning day 1? Using up a scummy role's power. What's the risk: Potentially giving scum a free copy of whatever role they want. Doesn't seem worth it to me, especially considering that we can just pardon day 2 and get all the benefit without giving scum a free role. But how do they know they know who has what role? No one followed the plan. So they have no real way of knowing what they will get. Also if they hit some who has BP or protection they lose their KP but we also have to worry about the SK and his KP. Pardoning Day 2 is safer, I agree with that. [green]There is 2 KPs at night and there's a pardon on day one ? Then who's kill goes first SK or Mafia's? If it's SK then CC gets the role of whoever SK killed? As Jimbo pointed out, when you read these posts you really get the feeling that it's all an act, that he's not really interested in knowing the answers to any of these questions (since he could think through it himself if he wanted), he's just coming up with things to say that a townie might say. Show nested quote +On January 10 2011 10:07 Beneather wrote:
Yes, I'm going to follow LSB's plan and take Bullet Proof ! :D Beneather, please claim whether you got this or not. We need to compare to Jimbo's claim (he claimed surviving a hit, did not specify vet/bulletproof).
Alright, Aidnai I am going to claim since I already had said it before. I am Bullet Proof.
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Alright, I think that fishball is traitor from the past lynches showing that he is the most likely one to have or kitaman.
##Vote:Fishball
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On January 18 2011 07:04 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2011 06:43 aidnai wrote:
Yeah, I'm really hoping to hear from eiii and jimbo soon here...
Overall I'm disturbed by the lack of noise today. Kita, what do you think of beneather? should we have dedonduo hit him tonight? Here is a sum of beneather's posts: -He supports LSB's plan, then attacks LSB for choosing godfather -Votes for LSB after he is dead -Supports a day one pardon -Abstains day two -Finally agrees to vote fishball when there are 7 other votes on him He hasn't contributed much, but possibly one of the lurker scums. Deconduo hitting a bulletproof would help confirm him as a SK so its an option, unless beneather decides to become more active.
Pressuring me to be more active I see.
So now you guys are choosing that we should hit me because I am bullet proof and to see if Deconduo is actually a SK. I wouldn't really mind dieing since I am only a BP to suck up some Mafia shots. It really looks like you just want to kill anyone that isn't contributing I understand that but how is that playing the objective. We need more townies so we have a lot more chances of killing scum.
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On January 20 2011 09:48 kitaman27 wrote:
LOL sorry guys, you're both town. I'm scum. GG.
BOOM! Scum! Kita shoot yourself!
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On January 20 2011 09:53 JimboSilvers wrote:
Its obvious bumatlarge is trolling the thread. Just ignore him, keke?
Sure thing, but why would kita say that both BC and bumatlarge are both town he could've confessed with just saying that hes scum and the confusion why would he want to take away confusion is that what Mafia want to do to the town? I still think BC or bumatlarge may be mafia. It's really suspicious why kita would just blurt out that. hmmmmmmmmm?
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On January 20 2011 10:04 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2011 10:01 kitaman27 wrote:On January 20 2011 09:55 Beneather wrote:On January 20 2011 09:53 JimboSilvers wrote:
Its obvious bumatlarge is trolling the thread. Just ignore him, keke? Sure thing, but why would kita say that both BC and bumatlarge are both town he could've confessed with just saying that hes scum and the confusion why would he want to take away confusion is that what Mafia want to do to the town? I still think BC or bumatlarge may be mafia. It's really suspicious why kita would just blurt out that. hmmmmmmmmm? It was an elaborate ruse to draw you into posting. Success! How come I claim scum and bum gets the credit for trolling the thread Because you shot pig? Regardless of whether BC or myself is scum, you have to kill the CPR. BC and I can WIFOM all day, but Pig has to be shot now. OK?
Make half of his body in to bacon and the other half in to pork chops!
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