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Kavdragon
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On December 30 2010 00:31 LSB wrote: 3 Person Team? You know....This could help with any conversations that might arise between Aidnai and I. No idea what he might think, but I wouldn't mind. | ||
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Kavdragon
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On January 04 2011 01:04 deconduo wrote: The mafia have an advantage in that they can eliminate 2 of the setups as possibilities as well. That kind of sucks a bit too. Agreed, but that's always the case with mafia, right? They will will have the information advantage right from the start. glhf all. Go town. | ||
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On January 04 2011 09:34 aidnai wrote: Well, I guess i'm not gonna wait around for my buddy to show up before I post anything. LSB, I'm pretty sick of the day 1 let's lynch inactives campaign...but with almost no activity so far, we might have to. Maybe everyone is trying to coordinate with their partner before diving in head first? I know Kav and I have had internet availability issues at home as well, I might be stuck posting from work only for a bit  First: Yes. Please people: Don't wait for your team mate to begin posting. You'll waste valuable time. So far we've had activity from 4 of 9 juniors. Not good. Second: The game is about analyzing posts. Day one there is nothing to analyze, and so we have to put something out there to discuss. Since we must come to a decision as to who we lynch by the end of the day, the topic of lynching inactives fits quite nicely. It also serves the purpose of pressuring people to post. If you have something better to discuss, let's hear it. | ||
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On January 04 2011 12:34 flamewheel wrote: He hasn't been on recently. I think he mentioned something a while ago about an airport. You've posted only one post at the very beginning of the game calling for the lynch of incog. A good townie (like a senior) would know that discussion is good and start talking You responded to LSB's vote within 10 min. If you are following so closely, why aren't you posting? You covered for yourself earlier by saying that you didn't want to be very active, choosing to give advice to your team mate earlier. Games with any sort of negotiation between players are often won before they start, based on how people set themselves up before the game starts. Maybe you really are just not that interested in playing, but I'd hate to underestimate a player's ability to play the game. ##Vote Team 9: Flamewheel/Orgolove | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote team 5: Meapak_Ziphh/Ace | ||
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On January 05 2011 11:40 kingjames01 wrote: Ace is always an interesting candidate. His philosophy for Mafia games is counter-intuitive at first sight but is very effective. Ah, but effective for town, or mafia? The thing that bugs me about Ace is that he's posting, but his posts are almost all deconstructive. He shoots down ideas and doesn't suggest others. He defends himself, but won't contribute. | ||
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I agree with KJ that Ben/BC don't look scummy to me. Also, I realized that Ace wasn't happy with the lynch, so that is resistance, but I still don't get the impression that they are scummy. | ||
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On January 05 2011 11:55 kingjames01 wrote: I think that the Beneather/bloodyc0bbler team is not Mafia and we need to do something to save them. Also, Subversion's post that was quoted above makes me suspicious of him. On January 05 2011 12:17 aidnai wrote: I hope this isn't too late ##Unvote Beneather/BC ##Vote GMarshal/Foolishness/whoever This certainly isn't helping "save" Ben and BC. If you wanted to save him, why not vote Flamewheel? Orgolove isn't particularly active either, and that would get them lynched instead of Ben/BC. (I'm not of the opinion right now that they are a better target, but if you think that Ben/BC is town, then it seems like a more logical choice...) | ||
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On January 05 2011 12:41 kingjames01 wrote: To be honest, I think Kavdragon is Red and, by association, you. Cool! let's get people talking about this. KJ, what do you think is scummy about me? Anybody else have some opinions to weigh in? Please, by all means discuss me. Even if it ends in me being lynched, it'll hopefully generate alot of discussion. (Though I do think that LSB is a valuable asset to the town, and I'd hate to see him go with me.) | ||
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On January 05 2011 13:12 flamewheel wrote: Voted. I do need orgolove in the game to play though, since I'm working on other stuff for TL right now. In his defense, I'd say he is busy. He hasn't even posted in my game since the last day. Can't really speak for any meta since I don't think that matters, but voting him is just a silly idea. Wait, so just keeping track of the tallies every few minutes, this means that you voted against the time extension? Why would you vote to give us less time? | ||
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Things to discuss: Votes: It seems like the people who were on towards the end of the day were in favor of switching the lynch to someone other than Ben/BC, but there weren't enough people on to swing the vote. To those who claim to have been away: Would you have switched your vote? Ben was certainly not the most inactive player, and while he apologized a lot for being inactive towards the beginning, he was not at all inactive in the last few hours. Inactives: (No, i don't support lynching another one, but It's something to look at.) It seems to me that Meapak_Ziphh has been very inactive. I think that his team would be worth a DT check if we have one. Persons that have been FoS'd Kavdragon (By KJ. Would like to hear more on this) Nemesis (By Aidnai. Would like to hear a better reason than "I got bad feelings from him")\ Orgolove (By Kavdragon. Explination/analysis to come.) Direction for blue roles: Do we want to give suggestions to blues? If so what? I suggest the same thing that LSB was saying: DT's check inactives, Medics protect vocal players. Anyone else have opinions on this? | ||
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Look, This game is about finding reds and killing them. How do we do that? By looking at posts. We have to analyze what people are saying, and the only way that we can do that is if they have said something. We had the chance to extend the day, but enough voted against it that we had to make due with what little talk had occurred up to that point. So we are behind on the volume of discussion, and you are advocating that we don't talk? How is this a good idea? "We can't act on it yet" Yes, we can't lynch people yet, but that certainly doesn't mean that we can't analyze people and build up more material to analyze for tomorrow. Ver himself said that the town benefits immensely from longer days, and mafia from shorter days. Why wait to start tomorrow till the morning? Why not start the discussion right now? It makes no sense to me. Can anyone explain why "Nighttime is not towntime"? | ||
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On January 06 2011 05:31 TheMango wrote: the only point of discussing during nighttime is to help our blues make their decisions, and without knowing the setup, you run a serious risk of helping scum team (on who they will kill/avoid killing due to possible medic save, and a possible wasted DT check due to roleblocker.) At least that's my take on it, someone correct me if I'm wrong. Nighttime discussions can be about whatever we want them to be about. If you're afraid that talking about blues will put them at risk, then let's talk about something else. The point is that we HAVE to talk, or there will be nothing to analyze. I argue that if we start talking now, we essentially extend the day by 24 hrs, something that can only help the town. | ||
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On January 06 2011 05:37 TheMango wrote: Please follow the whole thread, as I'm obviously quoting kavdragon who initially said that. I'm saying that at the very least people should be careful about suggesting things to our blues when mafia could easily use it against us (especially if they have a roleblocker). I was referring to people in other games, and I think that LSB thought you were referring to people in this game. A misunderstanding, most likely. | ||
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On January 06 2011 05:15 aidnai wrote: yes, nighttime is not town time. No reason to generate discussion or information that we can't act on yet. Could you please explain this further? What do you mean "we can't act on [it]"? | ||
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As you say in the end of the post, the more we talk, the more we have to analyze. | ||
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Aidnai's resistance to conversation makes me lightly suspicious of him. KingJames has done little, but what he has done has been decidedly pro-town imo. If they don't die soon, I'd look at them. I'm also lightly suspicious of Teams 7 and 8 for little involvement, and general unhelpfulness. Please don't let the inactives stay inactive. Widespread and constant discussion is good for the town. If we don't have stuff to analyze then we can't play the game. Yes, there are things to discuss right now, but there will obviously need to be more new things to talk about, so don't let the discussion die. | ||
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 LSB wasn't just vocal in the thread. While there wasn't a lot to talk about towards the beginning, we still were able to communicate a good deal after the game. Oh, and Ace. I don't know if you followed Merc Mafia, but I took something that you said earlier and made it my strategy. "You should just vote for whoever you think will not help you win the game." Except I replaced "Vote for" with "Blow up". It almost worked, too. I like that idea. | ||
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