There is no reason to talk about what Nemesis/chaoser are going to do next. Lets keep the focus on what matters right now since we are in LYLO after all ok?

aidnai

United States1159 Posts

January 10 2011 04:37 GMT

#402

Nemesis, that is the one unsolved problem for me. You fake claiming...just doesn't make sense. You have a free lynch on either me or subversion anyway. I end up in WIFOM land whenever I try to figure this out.

Gmarshal - gonna have to agree with Ace that you should keep it simple. The kind of argument you went through is way too fragile.

aidnai

United States1159 Posts

January 10 2011 04:40 GMT

#403

The reason I want to hear is I need another perspective on gmango. KJ is not around, and even though I can't fully trust the rest of you, I want to hear some arguments about why gmango is scum or not. Remember my entire line of reasoning is resting on team 2 being town...

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6782 Posts

January 10 2011 04:59 GMT

#404

##Vote Subversion

Aidnai was the person behind the orgo lynch, a lynch which magically appeared right as I fos'd subversion. If you are town vote subversion now, don't let Aidnai pull wool over your eyes.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6782 Posts

January 10 2011 05:00 GMT

#405

Oh and Aidnai what happened to letting someone else lead the town?

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6782 Posts

January 10 2011 05:18 GMT

#406

Hey Aidnai why are you so sure the gm/mango are town? I'm not saying they're scum in fact I think they're town because of the emphasis you place on them. Only mafia have absolute knowledge of alignment so they can easily call out someone as "probably town" in order to gain that persons trust. Gm/mango you guys need to Unvote now and stop sheeping for Aidnai. Take a good long look at the thread then come back and vote. You'll find Aidnai actualy stopped us from lynching scum by drawing attention away from subversion onto orgo. I voted for orgo at aidnai's behest but look at his reaction when I switched my vote, he wanted to make sure attention stayed off his scum buddy. Personally I won't be suprised if subversion doesnt show up, he's trying to avoid attention. Read the thread well mango/gm and choose your vote carefully.

aidnai

United States1159 Posts

January 10 2011 05:20 GMT

#407

Hi meapak. What's your read on team 2?

Also, look me in the eyes and tell me you're town.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6782 Posts

January 10 2011 05:41 GMT

#408

I think they're town because you think they're town, I think you're trying to use them to get your final lynch, you're trying to make them trust you by saying they're town. What I want them to do is reread the thread and decide if they really trust you.

I am town

There I said it. You already knew that but this was for the benefit of everyone else. And if you doubt me then reread the thread. I encourage everyone to reread the thread before making their final decision.

aidnai

United States1159 Posts

January 10 2011 05:49 GMT

#409

I'm rethinking my read of team 2 right now meapak. If I was actually wrong about them, that means virtually every single opinion I have formed this game was incorrect... I thought orgolove was red, I thought deconduo was blue, I thought gmango was green, I thought nemesis was suspicious.

I'm gonna sleep on this one. see you all in the morning.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6782 Posts

January 10 2011 06:07 GMT

#410

Glad to hear we've all calmed down a little. Gm/mango unvote now so we're not lynching anyone yet. I don't like you guys haveing hammer power but even worse would be a misslynch. I too am going to bed and I encourage everyone to take a step back and go over everything again. This is lylo, we absolutely cannot screw this up.

Meapak_Ziphh

United States6782 Posts

January 10 2011 22:21 GMT

#411

Bump
Why aren't people discusing? gm/mango where are you? We need to hear other voices other than Aidnai and myself. I want to understand why everyone is doing what they're doing. Nemisis and I are understandable, I've been the major push on subervsion and Nemisis checked subversion as red. Aidnai is understandable as well but for the wrong reasons

I firmly believe Aidnai is wrong about subversion. I'm still on the fence about Aidnai being red or not, as wrong as I think he is, he has been one of the more vocal players and since he's said he's going to take another look at gm/mango I'm willing to give him the benifit of the doubt. However we need to hear from everyone else. This is our most important day and the town is silent

aidnai

United States1159 Posts

January 10 2011 22:24 GMT

#412

this feels like a duel at high noon. Who will flinch first?

aidnai

United States1159 Posts

January 10 2011 22:26 GMT

#413

whoa, i didn't see you had just posted weird timing.

I am going to switch to subversion. But because it's irreversible if I do (unless subversion shows up, which I doubt), I'll still postpone changing my vote.

TheMango

United States1966 Posts

January 10 2011 22:44 GMT

#414

Just got done with work, so I've been reading the recent posts. I'm really surprised the aidnai is suddenly switching to subversion, when he was dead set on nemesis...

basically it comes down to this for me: Nemesis/Chaos & Meapak/Ace are mafia team, or it's aidnai/KJ & Subversion/Incognito are mafia team.

Although I was suspicious of aidnai, the last couple posts had me leaning towards him being town, and Nemesis DT claim is more suspicious to me than Subversion roleblocked claim. I think Subversion is more likely just a really inactive townie, while Nemesis claim of DT seems like a desperate measure to win the game. I'm currently writing up an analysis of why I think Nenemsis/Chaos & Meapak/Ace are mafia, might take me 15 mins or so.

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

January 10 2011 22:50 GMT

#415

Why is it a desperate measure to win the game? Subversion's roleblock still wasn't brought up. If we were mafia, wouldn't it be easier to just bring that issue back up? There was barely any heat on Ace/Nemesis so why would we bring the heat on us by stirring the pot for no reason?

Ace

United States16096 Posts

January 10 2011 22:55 GMT

#416

It's games like these where I really appreciate the power of Vigilantes.

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

January 10 2011 23:17 GMT

#417

You know, with the way that aidnai is unsure and how themango is 100% dead set and pulling for the lynch of ace/meapak and me/nemesis hardcore, the teams might be subversion of mango. Either way, if Sub is lynched, I is dead tonight from mafia lol

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

January 10 2011 23:23 GMT

#418

subversion and mango*

Nemesis

Canada2568 Posts

January 10 2011 23:31 GMT

#419

On January 11 2011 07:44 TheMango wrote:
Just got done with work, so I've been reading the recent posts. I'm really surprised the aidnai is suddenly switching to subversion, when he was dead set on nemesis...

basically it comes down to this for me: Nemesis/Chaos & Meapak/Ace are mafia team, or it's aidnai/KJ & Subversion/Incognito are mafia team.

Although I was suspicious of aidnai, the last couple posts had me leaning towards him being town, and Nemesis DT claim is more suspicious to me than Subversion roleblocked claim. I think Subversion is more likely just a really inactive townie, while Nemesis claim of DT seems like a desperate measure to win the game. I'm currently writing up an analysis of why I think Nenemsis/Chaos & Meapak/Ace are mafia, might take me 15 mins or so.

Hmm...it's been over half an hour, nice analysis.