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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-02 22:46:59
April 02 2017 22:46 GMT
#5821
[M][N] Generic Mini Mafia has ended in a town victory!

So are we going to continue this thread? Is anyone going to take ownership of it?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 02 2017 23:00 GMT
#5822
I will volunteer my time of nobody else wants it
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 02 2017 23:08 GMT
#5823
Well for now -

[M][N] Liquidmania Qualifier #4 can be posted.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
April 03 2017 05:54 GMT
#5824
On April 03 2017 07:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
[M][N] Generic Mini Mafia has ended in a town victory!

So are we going to continue this thread? Is anyone going to take ownership of it?

I'll keep it updated until a new person takes over. They will have to create a new thread, as I don't think TL code allows for someone else to edit another's posts (or give ownership of the post to someone else). And that sounds like a lot of work to bug a higher up for...easier to just create a new thread, which is what we've done for all the ban lists.

Also Damdred will be taking over the job unless someone else wants to. In that case I may do the sensible thing and perform a strategic background analysis on all contenders to determine who would be the best person to take over. I may also do the less sensible thing and have you play rock paper scissors

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I've also done a fair job at keeping this thread in topic, and a good way to do that is to not feed the trolls. So let's not feed the trolls, especially the ones who are obviously fishing to be fed
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
April 03 2017 06:04 GMT
#5825
Speaking of which, this may be a good time to ask yourself if the queue system can't be further improved. There's been a lot of discussions over the years (theoretical and practical) about what the "best" system should be. We've kept the queue system as 1) it definitely works and 2) it's more or less a fair system while making sure hosts are responsible. But that doesn't mean it's perfect and can't be made better.

The only thing I think is worth keeping no matter what is having a constant stream of normal mini games (9-13 players) going with proven balanced setups (both in theory and in practice).
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
N0
Profile Blog Joined October 2016
154 Posts
April 03 2017 10:10 GMT
#5826
The fact that I don't carry any weight in terms of longevity should be eclipsed by the fact that I'm talking sense, at least to those without malicious, vengeful or primarily self-centered drive.

The ideal sticky for this subforum would be something similar to what Race Bannon attempted, except this time with strictly adhered-to 1 post per host policy. Think of the practicality of having something like a hosting news paper, with the original post as front page (news 0Paper), available to communicate the full range of hosting project progress at a glance, with links to the individual post of each active host, incorporating an anchor bb code to link to.

I don't recommend Damdred to be in charge of updating it either (again, fully aware of weightlessness), as I've noticed his lackluster availability and effort when I read his 72 hours game. If anyone I think Coagulation should be given the honors of owning the OP. He has proven his commitment and whatever is required to be right for the privilege, barring playing and hosting some games here as well, not just his site; and we should rally behind him and hassle the mods to convey that we really want it to be stickied, and this thread unstickied, should he promise to start playing and hosting here.

It saddens me to see games without flavor, but I guess that's my problem. I hope my game which I'll post later today will set a minimum standard, and convey my trolling-devoid intentions to constructively shape and commit to this site's hopefully soon-to-be smart and innovative approach to forum mafia subforum management.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 03 2017 13:31 GMT
#5827
I sort of like the system we have right now, it gives a range of games and lets us pick and choose how to slow or speed up things meh. Especially during slow times like this. I think I should be available daily just going back to a normal flow, but if anyone else really wants it and wants to die for it i'll mud wrestle for it in some form.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-03 17:52:47
April 03 2017 16:41 GMT
#5828
I would be willing to help take this over also. I have alot of free time with no job due to being disabled and can constantly check it.

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Rock
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
April 03 2017 19:57 GMT
#5829
It probably makes sense to add the newbie games back to the queue. Like five years ago Radfield asked me to take over newbie games for a couple weeks and then vanished like a true scum. In the past, the newbie games were managed separately because we always wanted a newbie game to be running so they would typically take priority over the other games and bypass the queue. The list of newbie hosts that I'd occasionally PM has kinda dried up and the player base is small enough that we can probably combined the queues.

For reference, here is the hosting PM that I'd send out prior to a student game being hosted.

+ Show Spoiler +
Next iteration is " Newbie Student Mafia XYZ". You can run it as a 9 or 11 player game and use a standard setup like F11, 2of4 or C9++. Or you can generate your own 9-13 player setup using the roles below:

Town:
Sane Cop
Doctor
Jailkeeper
Vigilante
Veteran
Miller

Scum:
Godfather
Roleblocker
Rolecop
Framer

However, if you generate your own setup, please run it past either myself, or anyone from the balance team: Foolishness and Blazinghand

Please make sure that you have a co-host that can cover for you during deadlines. If you are unable to find one, let me know. Coaches may be selected at your discretion.

Prior to starting, it is recommended that you send out a confirmation pm along these lines:

You are receiving this PM because you are currently signed up to play Student Newbie Mini Mafia XYZ. Mafia can be an extremely time consuming game and it is recommend that you have an adequate amount of free time before joining. You will be expected to read the entire thread, post several times during each 48 hour vote cycle and vote before the deadline. Failure to do say may result in your removal from the game. The game is balanced around every player being active and inactivity from a single player can ruin the experience for everyone involved. Hosts, coaches, and players all spend their free time to make sure things run smoothly, so please make sure to inform the hosts if you are unable to post for an extended period of time or if you require a replacement. Please also note that you are not allowed to discuss the game outside the thread until the game is completed, nor may you reference the identity of your coach or quote discussions between you and your coach. Players are expected to treat each other with respect and understand the rules that are stated in the OP.

As the game will be starting on XYZ, please respond to this pm indicating if you are still interested in playing.
Thanks!



It is also advised that you pm KadaverBB to perform an IP check for potential smurfs or banned players before the game begins.

I would suggest posting the game thread shortly after the previous student game concludes.

Thanks a bunch! ^_^


It might also be worth considering using something like the TLMafiaLibrary account to ensure the OP remains up to date if a single individual drops off the face of the earth for whatever reason.
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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 03 2017 22:36 GMT
#5830
Yea, it seems like having a separate account would be the way to go. Then if whoever is currently maintaining the games list has to go out of town for 2 weeks or something, they can just share the account with someone and things can keep rolling.
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-03 23:33:12
April 03 2017 23:13 GMT
#5831
On April 03 2017 19:10 N0 wrote:
If anyone I think Coagulation should be given the honors of owning the OP. He has proven his commitment and whatever is required to be right for the privilege, barring playing and hosting some games here as well, not just his site


lol nothx.

besides.. I let the players @ omgus run omgus because they are adults and I am not a baby sitter.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
April 04 2017 04:40 GMT
#5832
I check this site everyday. I can help if you want more but looks like Damdy and Onegu got it.

Shared TL account is a great idea for it to pass on.
N0
Profile Blog Joined October 2016
154 Posts
April 04 2017 23:56 GMT
#5833
[]s1mu1n uit t.l. plas k4d m3s p.m. piip4l uen ders niid for 7 ripleism7nt.

If iu pl3n 1n kiipin it, 0r h3v 1lredi peid for m0r d3n 7 mont den iud bii a gr8 k3ndid7t

...

Sry. My mind is at demo scripting right now. I meant to say someone with TL plus could mass PM people when there's need for a replacement. If you plan on keeping it, or have already paid for more than a month then you'd be a gr8 candidate to be all in one: someone who updates host news OP, someone who can make some noise when there's a problem and someone who could sponsor a ranked match's prize pool with some vodka.
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N0
Profile Blog Joined October 2016
154 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-05 00:38:57
April 05 2017 00:16 GMT
#5834
Something like
Original Message From Tubesock:
A demo from [H][2×M][N][V] Whatever happened to Soundcloud Mafia? Mafia (link) hasn't posted for 3 days, we need (one of) you to replace him asap.

What to do if up for it:
  • Check replacement request status (link)
  • If unresolved, PM host (link)
  • If you get a reply with the role PM you're +in effective immediately

Alternatively you could step /in as a real player, which of course would be better still


sent to an exclusive list of people who've signed up to be requested to help out in case of such eventualities.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
April 08 2017 04:34 GMT
#5835
Why are there troll games (that are not by Caller) on TL Mafia? Is this like some new OMGUS.net?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 08 2017 12:53 GMT
#5836
Thanks for everything Foolishness, top stuff.

I am 100% okay with Damdred taking over, or Onegu, or whatever.
Computer says mafia
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-08 14:11:32
April 08 2017 13:39 GMT
#5837
You know, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Someone who took the time to see the problems in the system, took some more time to contemplate and come up with an optimal solution and came in here to offer it to you, me and the community in general, and patiently and eloquently prevailed over the urge to lash out on ad-hominem-based trolling; by trolls who took time to contemplate how to actively resist the implementation of the solution, and uphold and aggravate the problem instead.

Last but not least in gravity of resistance, Palmar buries it in appraisal for the problem, support for its aggravation and shunning of the solution, with his "blessing". Look at me i'm ok with this, 100% even. You are despicable. Onegu?! As in Onegu best host, self-sarcasm Onegu?

You people are cordially invited to OMGUS.net because that's where you don't do any damage. This is TL Mafia, and its going to be the best place for mafia with but preferably without your resistance.

Now .. join the best game there ever was on this site or not, I'm just here to announce my intention to co-host it. If you don't like it, fine, but know that I won't be doing anything other than updating my posting slot containing the big canvas, and announce the language script's alphabet, because I was asked to by N0 who is on her honeymoon or something, so you won't have to feel bothered by me at all, even if you do join [T] /rl/place Mafia.

Here's to you Foolishfart!

*not to discredit omgus, since the werewolf game raised the bar by light years, flavor-wise.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9695 Posts
April 09 2017 01:07 GMT
#5838
On April 08 2017 22:39 Race Bannon wrote:
You know, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Someone who took the time to see the problems in the system, took some more time to contemplate and come up with an optimal solution and came in here to offer it to you, me and the community in general, and patiently and eloquently prevailed over the urge to lash out on ad-hominem-based trolling; by trolls who took time to contemplate how to actively resist the implementation of the solution, and uphold and aggravate the problem instead.

Last but not least in gravity of resistance, Palmar buries it in appraisal for the problem, support for its aggravation and shunning of the solution, with his "blessing". Look at me i'm ok with this, 100% even. You are despicable. Onegu?! As in Onegu best host, self-sarcasm Onegu?

You people are cordially invited to OMGUS.net because that's where you don't do any damage. This is TL Mafia, and its going to be the best place for mafia with but preferably without your resistance.

Now .. join the best game there ever was on this site or not, I'm just here to announce my intention to co-host it. If you don't like it, fine, but know that I won't be doing anything other than updating my posting slot containing the big canvas, and announce the language script's alphabet, because I was asked to by N0 who is on her honeymoon or something, so you won't have to feel bothered by me at all, even if you do join [T] /rl/place Mafia.

Here's to you Foolishfart!

*not to discredit omgus, since the werewolf game raised the bar by light years, flavor-wise.



Hosting a game and running this thread are completely different animals. First off I dont think my games were badly hosted, and checking and running this thread isnt as demanding. Second I have created and hosted 3 themed games and believe I am qualified to look at and help talk about balance with hosts. Third talking about hosting coming from you is hilarious.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
April 09 2017 06:18 GMT
#5839
I would be happy working with Damdred or Onegu and have no doubt that either of them could handle these responsibilities well.
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beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 09 2017 09:09 GMT
#5840
I also think Onegu and/or Damdred would be very good choices.

I completely oppose everything Race Bannon said and I think he and N0 are the same person.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
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