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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 13 2014 00:15 GMT
#4361
On May 13 2014 03:05 Foolishness wrote:
This is a great idea. We can probably scrounge up at least a handful of players from 2+2 (site where game of mafia champions are being held). The rest of the players would have to come through internal advertising, e.g. do you know a good player from another site? If so, then blackmail convince them to come play in this game!

If a responsible host (i.e. not DarthPunk apparently ^.^) wants the job then just say so.

Also, with Alakaslam's game starting soon we'll need someone to host a normal mini in the next week or so.


Hey what is this?

Why do you get to decide that I can't host it?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 00:17:16
May 13 2014 00:16 GMT
#4362
On May 13 2014 07:23 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 03:05 Foolishness wrote:
This is a great idea. We can probably scrounge up at least a handful of players from 2+2 (site where game of mafia champions are being held). The rest of the players would have to come through internal advertising, e.g. do you know a good player from another site? If so, then blackmail convince them to come play in this game!

If a responsible host (i.e. not DarthPunk apparently ^.^) wants the job then just say so.

Also, with Alakaslam's game starting soon we'll need someone to host a normal mini in the next week or so.


I can get players from 2 other sites. One of the sites is hardcore though and really in your face, not sure if you guys would want balls those big in the games though. If you invite any 2+2 guys, make sure it isn't the obvious scrubs. Thx.


Is one of them WWWWombat?

You should totes play though Ace.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 13 2014 02:04 GMT
#4363
Poaching players from other sites is dirty. Who are we, omgus.net?

On a side note, here is a list of 200 players who have played at least 5 games here, yet haven't played within the last six months. We should go harass them to play again. Except Kavdragon. He can stay far away.

Also, if you figure that TL has at least a half a million (totally made up figure) registered users and only 1000 of them have played a game of mafia, I'm sure there are things we could do to draw more interest to attract more than 0.2% of users. With the amount of traffic TL gets compared to your typical mafia site, we really should have a larger active player base than we currently do.

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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
May 13 2014 02:16 GMT
#4364
I know the topic has been talked about to death, and it probably won't ever change, but I think a big hurdle to getting a larger, more active player base is fixing the culture in our games lately.

So much raging/yelling back and forth makes it really hard for new people to want to stick around.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 13 2014 02:51 GMT
#4365
The games also follow the same stupid, boring patterns. If you want more players get more entertaining people and setups.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 03:10:48
May 13 2014 03:10 GMT
#4366
If you want more players you may want to do better thread moderating. 80 pages for a 13 person minigame and 200+ pages for a normal game are ridiculous.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
May 13 2014 03:14 GMT
#4367
Meh. While I understand the whole "I don't want to read 100 page games" mentality, I think in general it actually improves the quality of the games (at least, improves the quality of town :\) rather than detracts from it.

Spamming can get a bit overboard occasionally, but for the most part I think the amount of posting is fine.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
May 13 2014 05:32 GMT
#4368
Still looking for 2-3 coaches for Classroom Mafia
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
May 13 2014 05:43 GMT
#4369
On May 13 2014 14:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Still looking for 2-3 coaches for Classroom Mafia


ya ok I can do it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 13 2014 05:47 GMT
#4370
Crap I forgot
Simply Normal (Mini) Mafia has been renamed [M][N] Yuma Mini Mafia by player request.

Oh yeah and it started about 4 hours ago.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 06:02:01
May 13 2014 05:56 GMT
#4371
On May 13 2014 11:51 Ace wrote:
The games also follow the same stupid, boring patterns. If you want more players get more entertaining people and setups.



On May 13 2014 12:10 Incognito wrote:
If you want more players you may want to do better thread moderating. 80 pages for a 13 person minigame and 200+ pages for a normal game are ridiculous.


Define interesting setup.

You want weird shit I got weird shit.

Like it curves into a figure 8 in the toilet and whatnot.

Like it is all kids of blue and incredibly strong scum.

Like it is [T] Host WIFOM Mafia, [T] I'll make you think waaaay outta the box Mafia, [T] It would ruin it if I told you Mafia, and so on

But somehow I don't think this is what you are looking for.

And Kita OMGUS is not so much that as UG mafia migration led by Coag meaning he brought some of us. Plus most TL ppl that are there are also here. So how is it poaching?

As far as moderation, you can put post restrictions a la Ver but some people would leave based on that!

Nah I really think Ace hit the nail on the head. Coag spreading the word coupled with Aperture Mafia 2p2 and NWM were the only reason I am here.

And nearly everyone was blue in nwm.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 13 2014 13:18 GMT
#4372
I'm definitely interested in playing a cross-site game! I just finished playing a cross-site game on Vendetta Strada, and it was a really fun experience (otherwise it's rare to play with several "new" experienced players). Something like 50-80% of spots reserved for players from other sites might be good? The game should probably be somewhat large since I'd think there would be demand for such a game.

The Diplomacy Mafia game also seems interesting and I'll probably be playing!

Foolishness: Actually you can remove my game (Mystery Mini Mafia) from the queue. There are a couple of reasons:

1) I mostly intended to just try out hosting with that game and I never had any huge enthusiasm about hosting it.

2) It seems like there are plenty of really interesting games coming up and my game would just slow down them becoming playable.

3) I think it might be a bigger "service" to the site to play rather than to host - considering the declining sign-up rate and the steady rate of games being hosted.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
May 13 2014 17:31 GMT
#4373
On May 13 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 03:05 Foolishness wrote:
This is a great idea. We can probably scrounge up at least a handful of players from 2+2 (site where game of mafia champions are being held). The rest of the players would have to come through internal advertising, e.g. do you know a good player from another site? If so, then blackmail convince them to come play in this game!

If a responsible host (i.e. not DarthPunk apparently ^.^) wants the job then just say so.

Also, with Alakaslam's game starting soon we'll need someone to host a normal mini in the next week or so.


Hey what is this?

Why do you get to decide that I can't host it?

Cause you said this:
On May 12 2014 16:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 15:04 phagga wrote:
On May 12 2014 14:00 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 12 2014 13:15 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 12 2014 12:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 12 2014 09:10 yamato77 wrote:
We need to host games where we invite players from other sites to play.

This


yeah this wouldn't be too bad of an idea. you could make a game where half the lots are reserved for TLers and the other half for people from other sites


I think I might host one actually. I have played off site quite a bit recently and there are a lot of solid players to invite.

Would you wanna play BH? if not you should help me host because I am a terrible host.



I can be your co-host. If the deadline is reasonable for me (living in europe) I'll also gladly help out with night action resolutions, day/night-posts and emergency flavor.


Yay. we should be co-co hosts though. Cause I legit suck at hosting. Last time I hosted I posted the scum team in the night post.

Lel.

I was just teasing though ^.^ If you want to host it by all means go ahead.
On May 13 2014 11:04 kitaman27 wrote:
Also, if you figure that TL has at least a half a million (totally made up figure) registered users and only 1000 of them have played a game of mafia, I'm sure there are things we could do to draw more interest to attract more than 0.2% of users. With the amount of traffic TL gets compared to your typical mafia site, we really should have a larger active player base than we currently do.

I think there's a difference between getting other mafia players from other sites interested and recruiting new blood. Getting players from other sites means getting people who have already played a lot of mafia and are familiar with the game. A lot of people already play on multiple sites anyways. Recruiting new blood is why we host newbie games, so those people can get familiar with the game of mafia without having to jump into a game with a bunch of people who are mean and dirty already experts.

It has been a while since we advertised on TL. We can always default to making a topic in Other Games, though I would think it would be cool if we could somehow get a spotlight article on the front page of TL at some point. hmmmm
On May 13 2014 11:16 Keirathi wrote:
I know the topic has been talked about to death, and it probably won't ever change, but I think a big hurdle to getting a larger, more active player base is fixing the culture in our games lately.

So much raging/yelling back and forth makes it really hard for new people to want to stick around.

Remember how GM once said so long ago that we should change in-game behavior to follow the rules that the rest of TL has?
On May 13 2014 12:10 Incognito wrote:
If you want more players you may want to do better thread moderating. 80 pages for a 13 person minigame and 200+ pages for a normal game are ridiculous.

I agree with this sentiment but it's hard to know exactly how much this pushes people away. The behavior thing is a much bigger problem from what I've seen.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
May 13 2014 17:50 GMT
#4374
On May 14 2014 02:31 Foolishness wrote:
It has been a while since we advertised on TL. We can always default to making a topic in Other Games, though I would think it would be cool if we could somehow get a spotlight article on the front page of TL at some point. hmmmm


On May 12 2014 23:04 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
How we envision TL is that we want it to be a StarCraft community where anyone can do anything they want as long as there is support for it from other users. EVE, Smash, LoL, Hearthstone, Heroes, Mafia, you name it. If good articles are written in these sections we will spotlight them and promote them in other ways.


Sounds like Nazgul would be possibly open to something.

On March 29 2014 01:07 Foolishness wrote:
perhaps some sort of "news bulletin" every X months would be cool. It would essentially include: notable games played in the past X months (i.e. good to read as a high-level mafia game), highlights from the games played, outstanding performances by individual players, a "worst post" award, a "Chezinu Column" featuring the best Chezinu-like posts, etc.


Did anything ever come of this idea? If not, then perhaps we can make a thread to gauge interest/people willing to contribute? Even if we did something like every six months it would be kinda cool.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 18:49:51
May 13 2014 18:39 GMT
#4375
On May 14 2014 02:50 kitaman27 wrote:
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On May 14 2014 02:31 Foolishness wrote:
It has been a while since we advertised on TL. We can always default to making a topic in Other Games, though I would think it would be cool if we could somehow get a spotlight article on the front page of TL at some point. hmmmm


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On May 12 2014 23:04 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
How we envision TL is that we want it to be a StarCraft community where anyone can do anything they want as long as there is support for it from other users. EVE, Smash, LoL, Hearthstone, Heroes, Mafia, you name it. If good articles are written in these sections we will spotlight them and promote them in other ways.


Sounds like Nazgul would be possibly open to something.

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On March 29 2014 01:07 Foolishness wrote:
perhaps some sort of "news bulletin" every X months would be cool. It would essentially include: notable games played in the past X months (i.e. good to read as a high-level mafia game), highlights from the games played, outstanding performances by individual players, a "worst post" award, a "Chezinu Column" featuring the best Chezinu-like posts, etc.


Did anything ever come of this idea? If not, then perhaps we can make a thread to gauge interest/people willing to contribute? Even if we did something like every six months it would be kinda cool.

this is a thread that doesn't get bumped enough.

If you guys want to make a news bulletin feature, I can see about getting it spotlighted/tweeted (I was pretty explicitly told recently that we *want* to tweet major mafia announcements), I could also enable it for html if we have anyone versed in the html arts. ^_^

RE: Behavior, if we want to tighten the behavior rules, I'm all for it, I think it'd be good for the community, but I'm not going to fight the entire forum singlehandely, if this is something we want, hosts need to be on board.

RE: Thread sizes: This is actually one of the reasons I don't play anymore, 100 page threads day 1 are ridiculous. Props to people who have time to read them all, I certainly don't. I'm not sure its a problem with an easy solution or even if it is a problem, but it may be affecting retention.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 13 2014 19:04 GMT
#4376
Well

Post count restrictions that limit to maybe 50 posts a day
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
May 13 2014 19:27 GMT
#4377
Do we have a new newbie game going up? It's probably a good idea to bump that thread any time a new newbie game goes up.
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Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
May 13 2014 22:17 GMT
#4378
I haven't hosted/co-hosted on TL before, but I'd like to try co-hosting, ideally in the next Newbie Game that comes up. Or if someone else is looking for a co-host (US time) just let me know I can write silly flavor, or just votecount.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
May 13 2014 22:44 GMT
#4379
Newbie Mini Mafia LVI should be opening for signups soon, I bet whoever hosts it will need a co-host.
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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 13 2014 22:54 GMT
#4380
Hey, does anyone know what the requirements for hosting are? I'm pretty sure I stumbled over them once, but I can't seem to find it again. I think it was something like 5 games played and 3 cohosted?
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