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On December 04 2010 11:36 LSB wrote:
DTs, please check one of these people
3. ghrur
6. Aidnai
12. kingjames01
13. Node
15. Aeres
Doctors, your main priority is to make sure I live =P
After that, protect Coagulation or Baruder.
Tracker, you should stay hidden and yell if anything important comes up.
Remember, there is a bus driver, so be careful.
LSB, I thought you were the tracker?
Anyway, this should be our plan for the night. LSB, arguably, has the most important role. He can tell us everything that happens at night. All we have to do is make sure he stays alive so that he can share his results with us. The more nights that he lives through, the better we can pin down the mafia.
Barundar, you should check whoever you think is most suspicious. LSB has told us that there is a bus driver in the game. So don't reveal who you're going to check until the morning. Also, since you received a pill from a pharmacist last night you will be safe from a mafia hit.
Coagulation, I don't know if you received a pill or not but don't reveal any information if you did.
Pharmacists, LSB and Coagulation are going to need pills tonight. If you sent Coagulation a pill last night, then send one to LSB tonight. If you are the one who sent Barundar a pill last night, then send one to Coagulation or LSB.
The rest of you guys, DO NOT CLAIM YOUR ROLES. Doing this puts our pharmacists at risk! If you can do so, draw hits. It's the best thing we can do for the Town.
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On December 04 2010 13:31 Coagulation wrote:
well i knew lynching fishball was a bad idea.
tried to save you man but you did a fantastic job of making everyone think your scum
I have no idea why you would want to do that.
very disappointed.
He did what he thought was the best chance to take down a mafia with him. He needed to act like scum so he could get lynched for his "hammer strikes evil" ability to activate. Unfortunately, by getting lynched he ran the risk of reducing our voting power by 2.
I don't know how else he would have been able to be lynched, in all honesty. It's not like you can just announce it to the thread. No mafia will cast the last vote knowing that they're going to die.
Also, I did try to warn everyone that the Hammer did not 'almost hit mafia' like LSB suggested. It was more likely that the Hammer was going to retaliate against the person who casted it.
On December 04 2010 07:19 kingjames01 wrote:
The Hammer did not 'almost hit mafia'. The Hammer is the last vote. There might be some element of a retaliation since sometimes it "strikes back." I think there might be something sinister about casting the Hammer. It's possible that the person who casts the Hammer might face consequences.
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On December 05 2010 03:35 annul wrote:
maybe there is a night vig somewhere
No, I disagree with this statement. I don't think that there is a Night Vigilante; at least not a Town-aligned one.
On December 05 2010 01:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Day 3 3 bodies were found floating in a pool in the morning.
Why would a pro-town vigilante dump the body in the same place as the other hits? If we believe that at least one of these 3 were killed by the mafia, we should assume that all of them were.
On December 05 2010 04:30 annul wrote:
well we dont know who the night vig hit and who the mafia hit
so maybe the mafia hit the tracker and the night vig took out coag or something
though maybe the mafia controls the night vig
So let's suppose that we have an anti-town Night Vigilante running around. Then only 2 of the 3 victims are accounted for. So what happened to Barundar?
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On December 05 2010 04:24 orgolove wrote:
Of all the games I played here, I've never gotten one information role. And I see coagulation getting it 3 times (twice as blue, once as a mafia). Sigh.
So our night vig was also dumb and killed one of our two trackers?
Coagulation did not have an information role. He lied about that. He had the ability to send anonymous PM's to people. Most likely on the first night he sent a PM to Fishball so that Fishball would 'confirm' him as a DT.
Now that I'm thinking about it, Coagulation probably believed Barundar was the first DT and decided to screen for the second DT. He used his ability to PM to confirm that to the town and he successfully drew a hit from the mafia.
I'm going to go on the record and commend Coagulation for that move since it definitely saved the other DT.
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On December 05 2010 01:00 ~OpZ~ wrote:
since night is over.
##Vote Node
I just saw this. This is the only vote cast so far.
~OpZ~: What is your reason? I can't find any justification for this. You are confirmed to be Town, so I know you're not trying to trick us, but we need to be cautious who we put our votes on.
As far as I can tell, he hasn't been active at all this game. However, I am not going to place my vote on him to pressure him at this time. Each time that we have done that, we played into the mafia's plans.
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I've just looked through all of Node's posts and although he is definitely not active, he just doesn't seem suspicious enough for me to vote. I guess I'm going to have to wait and hear ~OpZ~'s comments.
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On December 05 2010 06:38 aidnai wrote:
Holy...
3 night kills seems like too much for scum, we must have had a vig waste a hit, no? The possibilities as I see it are
1) 2KP + 1 special, 1KP was successfully stopped by town night 1. I suppose this is possible based on the number of pharmacists, often mafia kp will not be less than the number of medics.
2) 1KP + 1 special + 1 vigilante missed. I know the hints haven't exactly specified a vig, but then, the zombie was actually a vet...
I don't think there could be 2 special kp for mafia used the same night, right?
Again, I'm going to say that there cannot be a town-aligned Night Vigilante. In the following post, I point out that a pro-town Vigilante cannot be the answer to how 3 players got eliminated last night.
On December 05 2010 04:57 kingjames01 wrote:No, I disagree with this statement. I don't think that there is a Night Vigilante; at least not a Town-aligned one. Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 01:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Day 3 3 bodies were found floating in a pool in the morning. Why would a pro-town vigilante dump the body in the same place as the other hits? If we believe that at least one of these 3 were killed by the mafia, we should assume that all of them were. Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 04:30 annul wrote:
well we dont know who the night vig hit and who the mafia hit
so maybe the mafia hit the tracker and the night vig took out coag or something
though maybe the mafia controls the night vig So let's suppose that we have an anti-town Night Vigilante running around. Then only 2 of the 3 victims are accounted for. So what happened to Barundar?
On December 05 2010 06:38 aidnai wrote:
Time to discuss lynch targets -_-
I have my suspicions on a particular person right now, but I want to make a very good analysis before i post it.
Okay, so who is your suspect and where is this analysis?
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I'm here. What's got you thinking?
I posted my thoughts about that clue. I can go dig it up if you want.
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I posted this just before deconduo cast the Hammer and got Fishball lynched.
On December 04 2010 07:19 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 06:58 LSB wrote:On December 04 2010 06:29 kingjames01 wrote:
LSB, take a position. Who do you think is Red and why?
I'm counting approximately 9 players contributing to this discussion. Where are the rest of the players?
I'm going after the Clue from DoctorH that the Hammer almost hit mafia. Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Sometimes the hammer strikes back
and it almost struck evil Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 03:07 kingjames01 wrote:On December 03 2010 02:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
One strikes with the hammer the other with an axe.
One strikes back, the other strikes early
im annoyed by how far off everyone is with these hammer clues, damn On December 03 2010 02:56 deconduo wrote:
I'm the axe. So someone else is the hammer. On December 03 2010 02:58 annul wrote:
"the hammer almost struck back"
so that means the axe strikes early. Okay, so the axe hint is understandable. deconduo can end the day early. According to the OP, the hammer is supposed to refer to the last vote. On November 29 2010 14:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The vote that ends the day is called "the hammer". These two concepts are related but not identical. I don't completely understand the phrase strikes back. It makes me think of retaliation. Maybe the person who almost cast the last vote yesterday was actually mafia and would have been killed by the hammer. The Hammer did not 'almost hit mafia'. The Hammer is the last vote. There might be some element of a retaliation since sometimes it "strikes back." I think there might be something sinister about casting the Hammer. It's possible that the person who casts the Hammer might face consequences.
Then DrH posted this which confirmed my suspicion.
On December 04 2010 10:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Night 2 Fishball was shot by firing squad. Because he was the Priest, the angry wrath of god struck down the person who condemned him. Show nested quote +Priest - You can not cast the hammer (deciding vote). If someone casts the hammer on you, they will die.
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On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers?
=) Are you going to spam to get to 1000?
On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?
Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play.
You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch.
What else can you say?
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On December 05 2010 13:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)? In addition, I'm more interested in towniness being proven now. We kinda need it. Fishball Priest
Coagulation Whisperer3. ghrur barundar Radar Tech
5. Orgolove Veteran6. Aidnai 7. ~OpZ~ Innocent Child8. jcarlsoniv 9. annul deconduo
LSB Hobo12. kingjames01 13. Node SouthRawrea Psychic15. Aeres KingJames needs to go back to scum hunting himself, but I'm more interested in Aidnai claiming. He said he would claim day two? Did I miss it too? Me and Oroglove are confirmed. This should be pretty simple to figure out.
I have been trying to hide myself until I can contribute more. My scum-hunting in other games have led me to early exits via Night Kills so I've deliberately toned down my analysis.
However, I'm at the point where I think we might have to take big risks if we want to salvage some chance at winning the game.
If I reveal my role and what I've found then I'm going to want assurances that I am protected tonight. I can do more for the town if I wait one more Night, but I don't think we really have the luxury of waiting.
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On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote:EBWODP: Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers? =) Are you going to spam to get to 1000? Ouch. T_T That hurts. Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)? Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play. You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch. What else can you say? I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago. Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game?
The problem is that we can't just lynch based on who's inactive anymore. We need to find 3 mafia and you've just named 3 players. Including yourself, that's 4. I went through your posts and I think I found your hint. Why should we focus our search on someone else and not you?
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On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers? =) Are you going to spam to get to 1000? Ouch. T_T That hurts.
Also, I didn't mean this to be an insult! =) It was a joke. Good luck getting to 1000! Make sure you don't waste it on a small post by accident.
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On December 05 2010 14:57 ghrur wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 14:15 kingjames01 wrote:On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote:EBWODP: On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers? =) Are you going to spam to get to 1000? Ouch. T_T That hurts. On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)? Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play. You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch. What else can you say? I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago. Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game? The problem is that we can't just lynch based on who's inactive anymore. We need to find 3 mafia and you've just named 3 players. Including yourself, that's 4. I went through your posts and I think I found your hint. Why should we focus our search on someone else and not you? Idk, do the analysis. I want to see you scumhunt KJ. If you really believe you should focus your search on me, then do it. It'll go nowhere, especially if you've found my clue, but if you're scum, all the better right?
No, I don't think you understand what I mean. Think about it from everyone else's perspective. Based on what I think you are, I can't reveal you. But if I were to just conclude that we shouldn't lynch you and everyone should take my word for it, we'll be pegged as mafia.
You need to defend yourself to the town, and I cannot do it for you.
However, if you promise to help me survive the Night then I'll support you during the Day.
If you can assure me that we will mutually support each other then I will reveal everything I know.
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First off, this is my clue:
On December 01 2010 01:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies
I am the Hypnotist. My ability allows me to hypnotize one player each night. They do not remember that they've been visited and DrH PMs me their alignment at the end of the Night. At first I didn't realize that this clue referred to me. I actually thought this following clue referred to me since I can essentially take over someone and read their mind.
On December 01 2010 11:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
A guy has brains on his mind but doesn't know why.
In order to keep 'my' role hidden, I pretended that I didn't know what it meant and implied that it was a Brain Surgeon.
On December 01 2010 15:35 kingjames01 wrote:
A guy has brains on his mind but doesn't know why. (13)
Brain Surgeon?
When ~OpZ~ said that it was actually a Zombie, I took that opportunity to hide myself further:
On December 02 2010 01:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:
13 is zombie not brain surgeon.
On December 02 2010 04:13 kingjames01 wrote:
A guy has brains on his mind but doesn't know why. (13)
Zombie
At this point, we had been discussing that there were 2 DTs in the game and that 1 would be sane and the other insane. When SouthRawrea got lynched and flipped Psychic, I finally realized that we were all wrong about that first clue indicating the presence of 2 Detectives and that SouthRawrea and I were the two players with a third eye. The only question left to answer was, "which of SouthRawrea and I was insane?" Since SouthRawrea had been lynched I knew that I had to keep myself hidden because I believed myself to be the last remaining information role.
Then, Barundar claimed DT.
On December 02 2010 12:06 Barundar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 11:20 kingjames01 wrote:On December 01 2010 18:32 Barundar wrote:
I hope a medic would consider protecting me night 1. I was the first snipe night 1 in the Salem game, but back then I was just a townie. Here I can actually be of use to the town. From the role list, the closest thing we have to a Doctor/Medic is a Pharmacist/Nerfed Medic. We don't even know if you can be protected the first night. Explain why you think you are worth protecting and what you have done that would make you a target tonight? Also I claim detective (of a sort).
Immediately after that, Coagulation made his fake claim to the second DT.
On December 02 2010 13:24 Coagulation wrote:
I have a nerfed dt role i basically get to check one player every night however I dont get the results
the results are whispered to a random player and i dont know who receives it.
I didn't understand it right away but I thought that they were trying to screen for what they thought were 2 DTs.
Instead of screaming "LYNCH ALL LIARS", I decided to help them and use the opportunity to stay hidden. So I pretended to organize the town around them so that they would draw hits for me:
On December 03 2010 03:52 kingjames01 wrote:
Okay, this is a good ability for us to build our scum-hunt around. I'm voicing my support for the plan whereby Barundar checks someone of his choice, (keep your target a secret for now Barundar) and announces his findings in the morning. Of course our conversation is public so mafia will try their best to ruin it. What we need is for a Pharmacist to prescribe some medicine to Barundar or whatever it is that you do to keep him safe until the morning.
Coagulation is our other DT. We know that one of our DTs tells the truth, the other one lies. Since Coagulation's results are PM'd out randomly, I suspect that he is the one who will have trustworthy results. I'd like for him to be safe as well.
There is no real way of ensuring this or coordinating the actions of the Pharmacists though without them claiming. Obviously, Pharmacists should not claim until they absolutely have to.
Everyone else, as enlightening as it is, stop with the role-claiming unless you are forced to do so or have a very good reason. Each time someone claims, we have one less place to hide our Pharmacists.
During Night 1, I chose to check RebirthOfLeGenD. His voice was very strong in the game and I wanted to know for sure if he was Town or mafia. He had already put together a list of possible suspects and was campaigning very hard. If he turned out to be mafia, then he was worth claiming for just to silence him. So I decided for the first night I would check RebirthOfLeGenD.
Before the Night phase began, RebirthOfLeGenD was replaced by ~OpZ~. Instantly ~OpZ~ went on the attack and derided my attempts to decipher DrH's hints.
On December 01 2010 14:54 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Not worth the time or effort. I'm all for lynching you because you think it would be useful to spend time decipering every role in the game. That will take time away from scum hunting. Not useful.
On December 02 2010 01:07 ~OpZ~ wrote:
13 is zombie not brain surgeon. I don't want to discuss blues because they aren't important. What is important is finding scum. Now stop discussing them.
##Vote: kingjames01
On December 02 2010 01:52 ~OpZ~ wrote:
It's faulty discussion. We have no proof about any role in the game. What is my role? My role is the "God." I have the power to decide what is restricted during the day phase of each day, and to possibly change it.
Tell me you would have guessed that as a role.
On December 02 2010 01:58 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I don't like the blue role discussion, because it's meaningless. You can guess all day long, but don't make that the center of discussion. We should be pressuring folks.
Would a pro-town player be so against gaining information about possible mafia abilities? I sent in my request to hypnotize ~OpZ~. In the morning DrH PMd me that when ~OpZ~ was hypnotized, he revealed that he was Red. Since I didn't know my sanity I had to watch ~OpZ~ very carefully to see what he would do.
The only problem was, ~OpZ~ never came back to the thread. I tried to bait him out:
On December 04 2010 04:30 kingjames01 wrote:
~OpZ~, a wise mod once told me, that the person who encourages the town to scum-hunt but does not do so himself is usually the Godfather. Why don't you come out of hiding and contribute? I'm interested in what you're going to say and who you're going to protect/condemn.
On December 04 2010 05:16 kingjames01 wrote:
For now, I'll switch my vote to ~OpZ~ just to avoid any possible Traitor mechanic.
##Unvote Fishball
##Vote ~OpZ~
Basically, I had nothing to determine my sanity with. Then ~OpZ~ was revealed to be the Innocent Child.
On December 04 2010 09:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
OpZ cried as the town yelled and argued. Everyones hearts were warmed by the tears of OpZ the Innocent Child and their minds were put at ease knowing at least one person was too innocent to be corrupted by a life of crime.
OpZ has now been mod confirmed as a town aligned player. There is zero possibility of deception or misleading in this case.
From this I knew that I was insane. I worked through my list of suspects and how many players I could link together and decided that annul was too suspicious to be town. He deliberately started and continued a fight that would help mafia stay hidden. Any information that he offered in terms of roles were recycled ideas that had already been mentioned.
Also, in all of his posts, he never once provides an analysis on a suspect. Instead, he quoted other people's posts and used that as justification for voting. He tried to keep the town focused on Fishball and orgolove. His two most likely suspects both had been revealed to be Town.
On November 30 2010 14:38 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 13:59 Fishball wrote:
Hell, the game just started.
{...}
But if one were to ask me for "advice", I would say I'm more inclined to look at the inactives,
##vote fishball
On December 01 2010 09:01 annul wrote:
so explain to me why we have gotten off of fishball?
look at the post i made when i voted him, when i quoted his post and showed the two blatant contradictory ideas. then look at orgolove. he either 1. is bussing fishball or 2. someone actually used that power and wants to save fishball, and the only logical use of this is a mafia use
On December 01 2010 15:29 annul wrote:
vote fishball, then vote orgolove tomorrow
My conclusion: annul was mafia.
All I needed to do now was to keep attention focused on Barundar and Coagulation so I could keep hypnotizing people. I 'organized' the town so that Barundar and Coagulation could draw hits for me again.
On December 04 2010 13:34 kingjames01 wrote:
Anyway, this should be our plan for the night. LSB, arguably, has the most important role. He can tell us everything that happens at night. All we have to do is make sure he stays alive so that he can share his results with us. The more nights that he lives through, the better we can pin down the mafia.
Barundar, you should check whoever you think is most suspicious. LSB has told us that there is a bus driver in the game. So don't reveal who you're going to check until the morning. Also, since you received a pill from a pharmacist last night you will be safe from a mafia hit.
Coagulation, I don't know if you received a pill or not but don't reveal any information if you did.
Pharmacists, LSB and Coagulation are going to need pills tonight. If you sent Coagulation a pill last night, then send one to LSB tonight. If you are the one who sent Barundar a pill last night, then send one to Coagulation or LSB.
The rest of you guys, DO NOT CLAIM YOUR ROLES. Doing this puts our pharmacists at risk! If you can do so, draw hits. It's the best thing we can do for the Town.
In the morning DrH sent me a PM saying that, in his delirium annul revealed that he is Green.
annul started the day by suggesting the extra Night hits were due to a town-aligned Night Vigilante. I knew he was lying to spread confusion so I tried my best to keep the town calm.
On December 05 2010 04:57 kingjames01 wrote:No, I disagree with this statement. I don't think that there is a Night Vigilante; at least not a Town-aligned one. Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 01:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Day 3 3 bodies were found floating in a pool in the morning. Why would a pro-town vigilante dump the body in the same place as the other hits? If we believe that at least one of these 3 were killed by the mafia, we should assume that all of them were. Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 04:30 annul wrote:
well we dont know who the night vig hit and who the mafia hit
so maybe the mafia hit the tracker and the night vig took out coag or something
though maybe the mafia controls the night vig So let's suppose that we have an anti-town Night Vigilante running around. Then only 2 of the 3 victims are accounted for. So what happened to Barundar?
So now, I'm convinced based on my checks that annul is Mafia. I was not going to claim so quickly because of the apparent increase in the number of mafia KPs and because I was hoping to draw out his fellow mafia. Also, by revealing myself, I now need to request protection tonight.
TOWN: annul is Red. Lynch him so we can take back control of the town!
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Oh right, I forgot the most important part...
##Vote annul
=)
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On December 06 2010 02:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
*clap* A convoluted plan indeed KJ, and as I was reading the thread, I was beginning to suspect you because of your lack of scum-hunting. Assuming annul turns up red, I <3 you.
##vote annul
Oh, he's going to flip Red, alright. All we need to do now is to form a list of other likely mafia based on his posts.
I couldn't be vocal because of my role. If I pushed too hard I probably would have been killed by now. My two bodyguards, Barundar and Coagulation, are now dead so again, to the pharamacists, I'm going to need protection tonight if we're going to have any chance of pulling out a win.
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On December 06 2010 04:12 annul wrote:
next, KJ tries to use our argument as a vehicle to suspect i am mafia? he is just as guilty - if not more so - of any beef we have. he started the garbage up in sengoku and he continues the garbage here. so he uses this as a predicate to attack me?
he is not the "insane detective". i am. and i know that node is a green. thats it, so why would i come out? waste of a DT really. but now the town wants to attack me and i need to save my ass. the ghrur/KJ connection is pretty obvious.
i have one check remaining, then i run out of DT power. keep me alive and tonight i will return a verdict on ghrur. KJ is very good at writing a whole bunch of convincing shit while being utterly incorrect and misleading - i know this for a 100% fact now. i was on his ass forever and now hes taking an opportunity to lynch me because i hate him. im not the mafia - he is. and so is ghrur, probably.
in the meanwhile because KJ is an obvious liar,
##vote kingjames01
Right, so you're actually the insane detective. What's your role? What have you done with it? In 2 nights have you only checked Node? That seems like a waste of your ability.
You're also asking for a reprieve from the lynch vote after I've already denounced you as being mafia? Laughable attempt at delaying the inevitable.
I won't lynch you because you hate me. I smile because you hate me. =) I'll lynch you because you're mafia.
Anyway, even if you were going to counter that I'm framing you, where's your analysis? You can't just point fingers and not show proof.
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On December 06 2010 05:01 annul wrote:
i said i only had that information, not that that was all i have checked. think about it, two nights to check, one target, hmmmm maybe one of my checks is dead?
LSB was my other check.
Let's suppose that this is true. That means you checked both Node and LSB. There were other people who were probably better choices to be checked, including Barundar, Coagulation and ~OpZ~. What reason did you have to check these two and in what order did you check them in?
On December 06 2010 05:01 annul wrote:
my "proof" is who do you believe more? there are two competing claims. you claimed insane DT and called me out. i am the true insane DT. i really do not know why you did this, because when i do flip town, you die tomorrow. its a weird sacrifice that i do not understand. but nevertheless, it is true; i am town, and if he is saying otherwise, he must be mafia.
Asking people "who do you believe more" does not qualify as proof.
On December 04 2010 05:55 LSB wrote:
I'll claim that I can see all the night actions, I don't know who did them, but Doc H Pmed them to me.
And Someone hypnotized someone
On December 06 2010 05:01 annul wrote:
and yes, i do run out of juice. when i am out of DT power i have other smaller things i can do.
Also, I am not the Insane DT. I am the Hypnotist. LSB's Hobo ability corroborated the existence of my power.
What is your ability and how does it work?
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On December 06 2010 05:59 annul wrote:
"ive been told" - what?
it was KJ who is pulling this garbage out this time. he is mafia and lying and is targeting me, specifically, because of the reaction he knows i will have.
I'm just going to ignore your baseless accusations. You're still attempting to distract the town by drawing me into pointless fights.
On December 06 2010 05:59 annul wrote:
yes, when i run out of juice i can do limited things. obviously i would say what they were if i didnt think it was a dumb idea to do so. presuming i do live i dont want people knowing what it is, because then they can possibly prevent it from happening.
That's just silly. No such role was hinted at by DrH. Which clue do you think corresponds to you?
On December 06 2010 05:59 annul wrote:
furthermore, "the free pass to kill who i want" is fallacious. IF i were mafia (which i am not), mafia is going to be able to kill tonight all the same... so people are gonna die tonight no matter what, why would killing me (or, in the actual case, any mafia to begin with) stop that from happening?
Also, we don't know how many KP the mafia has. It is very possible that by lynching you we can reduce the number of KP. It is in town's best interest to lynch you today.
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