Experimental Mini Mafia - Page 25

On December 04 2010 00:55 LSB wrote:

Very risky, remeber, they probably checked a doctor. And fishball is very certantly not lieing
I'd rather it go, Fishball reveals the role. Coag Decides whether or not to flip who it is.

On December 04 2010 01:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:


I like this idea. It will let us utilize our information.

On December 04 2010 01:18 Barundar wrote:
Pretty sure none of us is lying. You got a mafia buddy who wants to claim DT?

On December 04 2010 01:23 Fishball wrote:


I wish I could, I'll just have all us claim DT.

How sure is pretty sure? Hey, I'm not even pointing fingers here. I'm just telling people not to neglect anything yet.

On December 04 2010 00:54 Barundar wrote:


No, I am not a cop per say, I just have an ability to detect alignment with my radar gun. This clue is not for me.

Will read the rest of your post now sorry, just wanted to make that clear.

On December 04 2010 01:43 Barundar wrote:
I'm 100 % not the speeder. I guess my post got lost in the spam:


My best guess is the speeder refer to the busdriver role, but really not sure.

On December 04 2010 02:30 Barundar wrote:
Would speeder fit Fishballs role, since he cannot die?

On December 04 2010 02:31 deconduo wrote:

If your role says you have a radar gun then its 99.9% that the speeding clue refers to you.

On December 03 2010 17:52 orgolove wrote:
I really haven't been too active this game at all. Unless what I said hit the mark, the reds really didn't have any other reason to hit me.



Look at his responses to Coagulation's first accusation. A townie would probably be incensed that he just "randomly" voted for you and it would've been understandable if he got a bit defensive. But no - despite being voted against for no reason, and as the first vote of the day, he just laughed it off and even made a gesture of voting for himself. Really smells like a red in my view.

Also, if Fishball turns red, then we can be pretty sure that the vote nullifier is definitely a red role.

On December 04 2010 00:02 Fishball wrote:


No I hate you all, and I'm achieving what I want to achieve so I'm happy with that.

...
I for one don't care if people lynch me or not, hence I never gave a crap on Day 1. I would have voted for myself if I could, which I actually tried.

On December 04 2010 00:05 Fishball wrote:


If you are not Mafia, please re-read your own post after this game.
I wish life was that simple.

On December 04 2010 00:24 Fishball wrote:


Where, I'm blind and busy and I must have missed it again. Please quote for me.

I'm just saying that if he is not Mafia, based on what he said to pinpoint me as Mafia, his logic is just too easy - the type of player that can easily be manipulated.

On December 04 2010 00:02 Fishball wrote:
2. Remember where I asked Lebron to quote "jcarlsoniv" on his claim since I missed it? I waited till Night to end so I can bring this up. Very damn conveniently, based on the lines DH provided us thus far, I have a spirit inside of me too! My power is activated upon being lynched. Hmm, this sounds very familiar... Unless DH has two roles with "OooOo Spirits inside them", or one of these roles were meant for another hint/clue/lead/guide/pointer/sign/trace, jcarlsoniv is lying.
I also like how jcarlsoniv said "don't lynch me just yet, I would like to see how other people think". I for one don't care if people lynch me or not, hence I never gave a crap on Day 1. I would have voted for myself if I could, which I actually tried.

On December 04 2010 00:20 Fishball wrote:
Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies.



So Barundar checks Coagulation and he gets a green result. (Alignment)
Coagulation checks someone else, and I get the other result. (Role)

If there are no more DT's in the game, and DH meant what he said, one of them is lying, or at the very least, the results they provided is false. This is an interesting situation, since Barundar checked our other DT.

If Barundar is sane/telling the truth, Coagulation would be Town aligned, but the results I get from his check would be false. Although I'm not entirely sure how a host can "fake" a role check, unless he just gives a totally random role back as a result, which is very not likely. The consequences is just too big, especially in a small game setup like this one.

If Barundar is insane/not telling the truth, Coagulation would either be Mafia, and has the ability to plant false messages like mentioned in my previous post, or Barunder is Mafia and trying to frame Coagulation.

Then there is the possibility that we misinterpreted DH's hint/clue/lead/guide/pointer/sign/trace entirely and both DT's are legit, but hey... who knows.

Now a lot of this doesn't really add up, and there is more I want to talk about, but I have to start getting some work done here so I'll leave you guys with the information above.

It is very important that if there is a 3rd DT, he should speak up now.

On December 04 2010 00:31 Fishball wrote:
Anyways people, I'll be gone for a while, so I'll leave the discussion to you guys.

On December 04 2010 00:02 Fishball wrote:


No I hate you all, and I'm achieving what I want to achieve so I'm happy with that.

On December 04 2010 02:30 Barundar wrote:
Would speeder fit Fishballs role, since he cannot die?

On December 04 2010 02:52 Barundar wrote:
It doesn’t really matter. Seems like whether it’s scenario A or scenario B, I’m a sane alignment checker, and Coa’s roleclaim is true (albeit slightly useless).

So it’s only Fishball and Jcarlsoniv who has a potential role claim conflict.

On December 04 2010 00:31 Fishball wrote:
Anyways people, I'll be gone for a while, so I'll leave the discussion to you guys.

On December 04 2010 01:21 deconduo wrote:


Well then, coag decides whether or not to flip, but Fishball has to reveal the name first if coag chooses yes.

On December 04 2010 02:58 orgolove wrote:
My last post: (which Fishball still hasn't responded)

Then his first post:

Uh huh. A "blue" who's refusing to help the town and doesn't care if you get lynched. You call yourself a townie, in a game where there's more mafia than usual? (in terms of % of total players)

Oh, and then he gives us this:Right, you suddenly become so defensive, immediately after you claim that you don't care if you're lynched or not?

And just how clueless can you be, that you missed the day post a.k.a. the most important post of the game?All this despite almost half the posts after my post he quoted talking about me being a veteran.

Then he goes wild with accusations, first accusing jcarlsoniv, then Barundar, then trying to put up some excuse to get out of the thread and avoid the pressure now that he's sown some seeds of confusion:

And yet he's still here, trying to seem as townie as possible.


Here's a hint:


There IS no 3rd DT, and it's highly likely that both of these guys are lying compared to the possibility that Fishball is lying.
He is so openly hostile to the town, and he claims that he has a role that activates upon death. The first KP of mafia was wasted, basically letting us free with one lynch. Why not have it be a guy whose death can potentially benefit us, if he's lying?



This is ridiculous. It's pretty fucking clear we're dealing with either a mafia or a disillusioned townie who doesn't really feel like participating in the game. He never responds to my second post, instead focusing on my first post immediately after being hit and selectively ignoring anything that pressures him. He tries to deflect accusations to discussion about fake roleclaims, and always leaves a hole to run away with his posts of "oh, I'm busy, so I'll let you guys talk."


If you really are a guy with a spirit inside, then we're gonna benefit even more from your lynch. From what the town's gotten from you, you're more beneficial to us lynched than alive.

On December 04 2010 03:06 Coagulation wrote:
fishball can you read this