Harry Potter Mafia!

On November 29 2010 19:45 flamewheel wrote:

Inactives suck, hit them with green light.

On December 08 2010 11:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
thats a good number

big games suck. haunted was a shitstorm

On December 10 2010 12:42 Pandain wrote:
/in i guess

On December 11 2010 12:20 why wrote:


I actually think this debacle has made LSB come out looking pretty town. there's no way he wouldn't have thought of these objections if he was mafia and he would have realized that no sane town would ever agree to them.

If we really want to have a private vote and have an auditor, we should have 5 or 6 of them, chosen by RNG, to really ensure there is at least one town among them. Or is that too paranoid?

On December 12 2010 09:37 LSB wrote:
Ah yes, I didn't go to my sent mail.

If you seriously think that's fishing... x.x

Your main critisim was that I might be able to manipulate the votes. So I offer the position of auditor to you.

It is incredibly strange why you immediately decline. Are you just attacking for the sake of attacking? Or do you actually have a concern about how the secrete elections would be held?

On December 13 2010 05:08 Airbag wrote:

why is not posting scummy?

couldnt he just be trying to avoid attention or maybe he is busy?

On December 13 2010 07:46 Beneather wrote:
I have found some more using the INTERNET! :D



This is 7/8 Death Eaters

Source: If I missed some you can check : http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/death_eaters.html

On December 13 2010 07:47 Beneather wrote:
I just read LSB's new post on it I missed Mulciber..

On December 13 2010 07:49 Beneather wrote:
Alright, this is the full list of the Death Eaters. I think we can also find their abilities on the internet as well if we search it up! It'd be better if we know these abilities of the death eaters. :D

On December 13 2010 07:50 Beneather wrote:


I edited cause i forgot Mulciber once again please let this one go :D

On December 13 2010 07:54 Beneather wrote:
#Unvote: Beneather
#Vote: Pandain
Those pandas got to me GO PANDAS :D lol

On December 14 2010 00:29 kitaman27 wrote:


Looking back at the night post, anyone find it weird that those three words were bolded? I assume "nothing", "future years" and "loyalties" must be role clues.

Not sure what nothing could mean. Maybe Lockhart causing his victims to remember nothing? That could be a role blocker of some sort.

Future years probably refers to either Trelawney or Firenze and their ability to predict the future somehow.

Loyalties could refer to Snape or some other traitor.

On December 14 2010 02:02 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
On that note, I would ravage emma watson.

On December 14 2010 02:44 Amber[LighT] wrote:


I WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS.

Road trip to her place? 8)

On December 14 2010 03:19 ilovejonn wrote:
so much spam to sort through....

On December 14 2010 09:46 LunarDestiny wrote:
Also if someone can prove they are town, I will gladly invite you into our circle/forum. In forum, there are information that will prove that Beneather was in our group and the group is 100% town aligned.

On December 14 2010 09:51 Pandain wrote:
People who got hit are to claim.

There is no reason to not claim. Because right now its impossible for mafia to discern whether you were protected or have a veteran-like role. So it's best to do that.

Right now we know 1-2 people were hit, at least one who survived. By claiming ASAP not only do we force mafia to act NOW, but we get out that vital information.

On December 14 2010 12:39 LunarDestiny wrote:

This gave me a thought. Annul say that we can not name claim. But what if those who are in mini-groups group/house claim. Lets discuss if group claiming is a good choice.

On December 14 2010 14:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:


O_O I thought that didn't happen til the 6th book to...what's her face. With the locket thing.

On December 14 2010 14:35 LSB wrote:
I got hit by some ability. I'm roleblocked now.

I'm just going to claim. Now that I'm useless

+ Show Spoiler [Character claim] +

+ Show Spoiler [Role Claim] +

+ Show Spoiler [What happened] +

On December 14 2010 14:37 orgolove wrote:
What the fuck? Why the hell would I hit RoL if I was pushing for his lynch? If he turned blue, it would've put more suspicion on me anyway.

On December 14 2010 14:38 LSB wrote:

Who's that?

On December 14 2010 14:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:


Wait...shit who was the girl that was in love with Ron that gave him the love potion? Thought that was her name...

On December 14 2010 14:46 why wrote:
Violet (for those who can't be bothered to use google): http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Violet

On December 14 2010 14:49 why wrote:
Meapak is claiming Potter, right? Now someone can counter-claim...

On December 14 2010 14:52 why wrote:


Harry makes much more sense thematically, not that all the roles have been obviously thematic. Harry was attacked and killed by Voldermort once and survived. After that he was vulnerable.

On December 14 2010 14:56 LSB wrote:
Meapak... please don't die if your harry... please...

On December 14 2010 15:00 Mr.Zergling wrote:


I think this is an excellent idea, if we lynch LSB we get rid of a KP and if he flips the role he described we can probably conclude that his information is correct and lynch orgolove

On December 14 2010 15:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I AM NOT HARRY. I have no idea what the hell is going on however we should NOT lynch LSB. RoL told me he and LSB were suspicious of orgo, I'm still confused about RoL's power however LSB apparently did act according to what RoL said he would. I understand that my powers sound like harry and that's what RoL thought at first but beleive me it's not. My power to block comes through the wands not the horcrux. We should lynch orgolove now and lynch LSB if orgo flips town. I think LSB and I are both telling the truth because the time LSB posted fffffuuuuu in the thread closely corropsonds with the time I received my pm telling me I lost my powers. I pm'd annul making sure I could talk about this and once I got the confirmation I informed someone via pm (who can choose to stay anonymous) and then checked the thread on found LSB's post. I repeat vote Orgolove

On December 14 2010 15:06 GGQ wrote:


Why do people keep doing this, lol, no one can confirm their character.

On December 14 2010 15:18 orgolove wrote:


Exactly.Look at his words carefully and you can find countless holes.

And look at LSB's claims right now.




Wow. So now he's claiming BOTH of us are lying? When he's have been scummy ALL GAME?

And how many roles is he claiming now? First he claimed to be a Mafia Traitor. Next he claimed to have tracker. Now he's also claiming that, on top of all his other abilities, he's now an advanced martyr.


Are all of you seriously believing this nonsense??

On December 14 2010 15:18 ilovejonn wrote:

It also clutters the thread with spam. Stop it's not helping the town. Sometimes it's good to not post.

On December 14 2010 15:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
sorry for talking for the mod, but results and actions are always returned with the day post. The reason being it allows the users to change their actions until the day post and makes it so day 1 rc shit doesn't happen.

On December 14 2010 15:24 why wrote:


Nevermind misread question. Sorry.

On December 14 2010 15:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:


So LSB would not know the result of RoL's check before RoL was killed.

Sorry LSB. Caught you.

On December 15 2010 00:28 kitaman27 wrote:


To prevent later speculation, you accompanied orgolove last night, right? So RoL did not dt check him like you suggested earlier?

On December 14 2010 13:51 LSB wrote:
All I'm saying is that RoL checked Orgolove before he died.
I did not do anything to encourage him to go that way.

Once I flip green, kill Orgolove. He probably has some kind of role that causes him to kill the dt that visits him.

On December 15 2010 01:57 kitaman27 wrote:


there is still the possibility that he was trying to push orgolove without role claiming. If that was the case though, I would assume LSB would say so, rather than allow him to get caught up in a lie.

Meapak, did you inform LSB that the "scream" referred to a roleblocking ability against you or was LSB the first one to bring it up. If LSB was the first to mention it, I'm not sure how so many people can be accusing him of making it up, unless LSB was part of the team that caused the scream.

On December 15 2010 04:27 CubEdIn wrote:
7PM KST or EST?

Sorry, but neither of those are really familiar.
You can use the the "time" tag to make it easy for everyone.

Like say:
Day will end at 00:00 GMT (+00:00). Or say "In 6 hours". Or give me CET/GMT. :D

It's just that KST and EST are confusing to most Europeans, sorry.

On December 15 2010 10:24 Kenpachi wrote:

hey doesnt Snape sound like hes a townie?

On December 16 2010 02:20 Jackal58 wrote:

Are you confirming their innocence or persuading us they don't need to be checked.
WIFOM.

I'm going to protect Amber. He's a good scumhunter but he's playing under the radar right now which makes me think he has a blue role or he's doing something significant in PMs. I think he's more active as mafia.

I imagine he'll be valuable tomorrow or day 4.

On December 16 2010 13:13 LunarDestiny wrote:
In the case of my circle, Annul had to say it explicitly that the circle is made out of all townies. So I presume that circles with both town and mafia exist. In another word, if your role pm didn't say your circle is made out of all townies, beware.

On December 16 2010 14:09 Mr.Zergling wrote:


Sorry, but have you mentioned the names of these allies?

On December 16 2010 14:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Hey jcarl your PM said that your circle was all town... But did theirs?

On December 17 2010 05:19 Pandain wrote:
1.Was snape part of mafia, or just like a traitor?
2. Did mafia know snape knew them?
3. are these mod formed circles or circles that just sprung up?

On December 17 2010 09:12 annul wrote:
Gabriel has replaced chaoser.

tube responded to my PM and says he will be posting soon. if he doesn't, i'll pull the trigger on him in a bit.

* * * * *

ghote the Cho Chang has been mod killed.

+ Show Spoiler +

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the day is not over. you still have ~24 hours for the day.

On December 17 2010 09:16 annul wrote:
airbag has permission to switch to his main account.

airbag the smurf has become doctorhelvetica.

On December 18 2010 02:16 Barundar wrote:
Kitaman I feel like I'm missing something here. You say another one claimed Poppy, and that we should lynch both. I agree.

So who is this other Poppy, in case you are lying to us about DrH?

On December 18 2010 02:28 Barundar wrote:
I was refering to this sentence by Kitaman.

He states we lynch them, but he only mentions one.

On December 18 2010 02:39 kitaman27 wrote:


Didn't the whole LBS situation seem a little fishy to you though? He practically role claimed scum for some weird 1:1 trade with oroglove. PM's can be fabricated. In the previous game, there was a decent amount of discussion on mafia and fake pms. Why fake role claim if you are clean?

On December 18 2010 18:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

He checked me and he got a result pointing toward himself.

Mafia don't want me checked since that would confirm I am who I say I am, makes sense. He was redirected.

We should lynch Coagulation or Why tomorrow.

On December 20 2010 06:37 deconduo wrote:
Oh, and I die tonight because of my role. (Happens in the book)

On December 20 2010 06:45 deconduo wrote:


So who is Poppy then?

On December 20 2010 07:33 deconduo wrote:


Day Post seems to indicate mafia tried to kill 1 or more of the gryffindors, but they used their protection to stop it.

On December 20 2010 07:29 LunarDestiny wrote:
It seems that there is only 2 deaths, so one of mafia's KP failed or they stack KP which I think is unlikely.

I don't want to talk so much during night because I don't want to give information to mafia.

Lets me share some information now:
Zeks the Nymphadora Tonks contacted on day 2 and shared his role ability with me. At the time, I didn't trust him much because he said his ability work only 50% of the time. He could be a mafia who try to get information from me.
i feel safe enough to rc with you - interpret this however you want.

I am Nymphadora Tonks shapeshifter

my ability is essentially a modified martyr (shapeshift)

if i shapeshift into you, and an action is done on you
there is 50% it happens to me instead

if i shsapeshift into you and you are invisibility cloaked, and an action is done on you, then the action 100% happens to me

On night 3, he also contacted me and asked me who should he use his ability on. I was still uncomfortable enough to share information with him and asked him to use his ability on lurking townies (aka lurkers) because most night kills are used on lurking townies.
You have a protective role, so you should try to absorb from mafia. Looking back at past history, mafia have a tendency to target lurking townies to avoid protection from medics.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From zeks:
I claimed to kitaman27

Who should I use my ability on tonight?

"Wow, a coin flip may decide the fate of our city," NotAnnul said. "It is for this very reason the six-layer system was implemented in the first place," he continued.

On December 20 2010 07:43 annul wrote:


night 1 post.

1. Substitution roles.
2. Protection roles
3. Investigation roles.
4. Non-standard kill roles.
5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills.
6. Voldemort's personal kill.

On December 20 2010 07:49 CubEdIn wrote:
So I like, claimed my power and stuff.
Pretend like you noticed.

On December 20 2010 07:47 deconduo wrote:


How do you know the DT is town?

On December 20 2010 07:57 deconduo wrote:


You are vouching for them but how do YOU know he is town? Has he nameclaimed? Did someone DT check him? Is he in one of the circles?

On December 20 2010 08:03 CubEdIn wrote:
Meh, my power is a bit odd.
I can't tell who checks my target, or what they do. But once I check someone, I can see actions against them for the rest of the game (or until I die).

If any of the other "watches" could be verified I would have said something. But the other watches were rather useless.

Night #1: LSB. He was visited by someone.
Night #2: Airbag. He was not visited by anyone.
Night #3: Airbag. He was visited by someone & zeks - he was also visited by someone, obviously.

I know it's convenient, but I checked LSB because he was scummy as hell. And I checked zeks because he seemed very pro-town, but in last night's debacle he chose not to vote, which I found very suspicious. So yeah.

I can check whoever you want me to check, and I'll still have my sights on Airbag.

On December 20 2010 08:09 deconduo wrote:
EBWOP

Nevermind that, kitaman's DT must be Colin Creevy.

On December 20 2010 08:05 kitaman27 wrote:




Fair enough I somewhat trust you now. I take it this is what you are claiming?

On December 20 2010 08:06 CubEdIn wrote:
I can say that if I would do that, it would be too much of a hint towards my role (basically, role-claiming). But it should be fairly obvious (i can't think of any other way a character could do this).

On December 20 2010 08:24 CubEdIn wrote:
I never claimed to be camera fanatic. Please don't put words in my mouth.

I did not confirm or deny that role. Annul, no lightning strike please.

On December 20 2010 09:18 LunarDestiny wrote:
I must not be aware of something, but where that list came from?

On December 20 2010 08:51 Barundar wrote:
I think Kitaman is lying about extra DT and whatnot. Based on his dedication, Jcarl "confirmed" him. Obvious he is Voldemort or real Poppy, and at the moment it's down to a flip between him and DrH.

Kitaman said DrH and Pandain was scum. DrH said Pandain was not scum. Kitaman could have been lying about both. DrH could have been right about Pandain beceause he was scum.

Town would be safer to find scum elsewhere.

vote Coagulation

On December 20 2010 13:26 kitaman27 wrote:


Sigh I suppose I better role claim then

+ Show Spoiler +

On December 20 2010 13:38 why wrote:
Were you the one that claimed Kitaman? I guess it had to be

Btw, I'm pretty sure whether we can win or not (without kill avoidance) depends on how KP is reduced. Is there some standard for that (other than obviously Voldermort being 1 KP himself)?

On December 21 2010 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Night one the bus driver switched me and beneather, night two the bus driver switched kenpachi and jackal58, and night three the bus driver tried to switch me and drh. I don't know if that last action went through but I just want people to stop speculating about the bus driver role. I'm pretty sure drh is mafia because he was pretty aggressively fishing for a bus driver role and the only reason anyone would care is if they were mafia and two of their hits had been redirected.

On December 21 2010 05:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Because he told me. Do I need to reveal all of our PM's? I've hinted several times that I knew the bus driver.

On December 23 2010 04:59 annul wrote:
night is over.

night post will come shortly (when i am done with this heroic in wow)

On December 23 2010 06:14 kitaman27 wrote:


Both hits have been accounted for. He is lying.

On December 23 2010 06:28 CubEdIn wrote:
Ok so, since there's no way mafia will win this now (since node is in contact with kita, that shows they know about all of us), we pretty much forfeit this game.

In all fairness, the claiming was a bit too imba. This game would've gone a lot smoother if there were no claims. I know there were no 100% name claims, but come on... "I rock @ brewing potions, I love harry's mom, and my name rimes with Teverus Tape".

So yeah, GG town. Wish it would've ended differently.

On December 23 2010 06:40 CubEdIn wrote:


Oh we really didn't care about that.
I never trusted kita in PMs. But the group decided to roleblock kita and hit Node+Meapak (thinking that who tf would cover meapak's ass).

I suggested MrZ and deconduo (cuz decon claimed to me that he had no powers via pm early in the game).

But yeah, the town seems rather stacked. We did an awesome job with hits and lynches at start, and you still had awesome abilities left.

All mafia had was a roleblock and the ability to tell which of us gets targeted at night (but without knowing by what or by whom).

On December 23 2010 06:44 CubEdIn wrote:


Well that was standard GF.

In a normal game, you wouldn't have had such a nice mod-confirmed town circle and would've had to use DTs. And we got most of the DTs, so it would've been much, much harder.

Seriously, I must say I was like "thank god we got that guy" when I saw "dt+medic+vet+unlynchable+EPICSEXYDUDE", only to go "wtf" when I saw other people had way strong abilities as well.

LSB and DrH were exemplary, but when you have a list of names, all you have to do is have people confirm their name by confirming their power, which was too easy if you ask me.

On December 23 2010 06:52 Barundar wrote:

the 2 members would also suicide in the process :/ 2 for 1 townie.

Imperio was good - semi DT + roleblock. The vigi was 1 hit, we took out RoL with it.

Kudos to GGQ - you where spot on with the bus 2 nights in a row, sadly you made the job easier for us by hitting the town circles.

After the lynch on LSB, I really think all mafia had slipped under the radar, and we had so much mistrust in town, that they did not dare to trust town circles. Problem was this was when nameclaiming got popular :/

On December 23 2010 06:55 CubEdIn wrote:


But totally useless in this stage.

2 members would not kill someone when they die. The special tie means that if one of the two members is dead, the a townie + the other member dies. So it's 2 for 1. Useless in our scenario.

Imperio curse was cool, but we had no idea who was who. And if you count your abilities and the house abilities, it was practically impossible for us to use it perfectly unless we knew exactly WHAT your abilities are how you would use them.

And you tell me how the target detection is useful when you all know who we are.

But alas, I really don't mind the town's powers as I mind how people ability-claimed into having their identities revealed. It ruined the game imo.

Also lol @ kita trying to get me to claim Creevy. As if!

On December 23 2010 07:09 aidnai wrote:
wow, a come from behind victory! I didn't expect the game to end this way, well done town

Annul, very nice job with the setup and day/night post flavor and general hosting. I'll be looking for more games from you, if you're up for it. As far as balance, town seemed OP at the end with all the DT/roleblock/medic roles, BUT, I still think mafia would have won if Dr.H had not had the misfortune of claiming Poppy to the real Poppy (lololol).

To be honest though, I did have several frustrations with the town play this game.
1) it made me mad when after I was lynched, people were like 'oh, draco, that's not such a bad lynch'. I WAS TOWN ORIENTED.
2) Kita gave town a clear 1:1 choice with the double name claim, but then town lynched pandain wtf?
3) inactivity played a huge role in the missed dr.h/pandain lynch. Inactivity almost won the game straight up. Very frustrating to watch ilovejonn come to the thread with enough time to tip the scales, then putz around saying 'i have 20 more minutes' and still never vote
4) not much analysis. Several mafia pretty much outed themselves trying to save DrH (especially cubed and barundar), and the vote lists were pretty damning as well. But the town instead relied on the information roles and town circles and role claims. It worked for this game, but I don't think it's the best way to play.

On the scum side, I thought bussing LSB to 'confirm' orgolove and airbag was pretty smart. I don't think anyone picked up on this analysis-wise at any point. Snape was definitely a liability, and they got two semi-confirmed 'townies' out of the deal. Although to be honest airbag tried to take way too much credit for the lynch when practically the whole town was screaming about LSB's scumminess and orgolove didn't follow up his 'confirmed' status by misdirecting town or doing anything really...

GG everyone, hope to play with you again soon.

On December 23 2010 10:37 Chezinu wrote:
I take full credit for this victory