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i am a total noob to this game and have no clue whats going on... =[
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i thought editting it here would be ok, besides that post wasnt suspicious anyways lol. and yes i read your post after i made my post LSB. maybe i will...
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Actually... i have no clue what is going and don't know the remaining time to vote and don't want to be mod killed so I just made a random vote.. but decided against that just now since there are some people that haven't voted anyways.
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going on*
see what i did there, no editting, im learning :D
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Anyways, I have time to defend myself after reading all those posts. I am kinda busy with finals and other things but that would seem like I'm making an excuse. To the people who thinks they should get me lynched, I don't know why you would do that, I am openly admitting that I have never played this and told people my first vote was a random vote because of my time constraints. Sure that may seem like I'm pretending to be someone else, but in truth I am just really busy atm (christmas break coming soon, I'll have more time).
Also, I've read a few more pages of posts this time and found Meapak to be a good candidate to be MoM because of open decision votes? I think that's it, and others have posted why the other candidates seem to be suspicious blah blah. Anyways I've changed my vote again, that's all I'm going to say, if you think I am suspicious still, then go ahead and lynch me lol.
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Btw, I read the rules over again and it says that you CANNOT vote for yourself. So what happens to the people (such as Pandain) that voted for themselves at the end and did not change their vote?
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Jackal58 did the same thing as me you know.. I don't know why I am suspicious. I already explained that I voted on deconduo because I was hard-pressed with time and I changed my vote after allowing myself some time to read over what the candidates can provide to the town at the end and that's why I voted for Meapak. I believe there are other people more suspicious than I am.
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Hey, Jackal58, I don't think voting on first impression is a very good idea. There are also people that are saying you are pretty fishy. I'd like to hear what your defenses are. You haven't really posted ANYTHING other than asking some questions, then changing your MoM vote to Meapak after I did, as well as lynching LSB with no reason at all.
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so much spam to sort through....
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I totally do not agree with Pandain being pro-town..
and I know that lists don't help with anything but I made a one anyway.
List of inactive/low post/suspicious count:
Kenpachi
ghrur
Amber[LighT]
Barundar
kitaman27
Beneather
RebirthOfLegend
~OpZ~
why
Mr.Zergling
Pandain
tube
LSB
chaoser
CubeDin
Meapak
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No. It is only a list of people that are either inactive/low post/suspicious. I need further analysis of each of the people on that list and I am slowly gathering information from posts. Of course I am not on that list but feel free to list me as suspicious.
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kenpachi god damn provide your reasons, you are town in most games yet you act so scummy.
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Based on
On December 14 2010 09:20 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 09:15 zeks wrote:
death eater 3 hits only 1 died
RoL must've got killed by 3rd party then
Then obviously 2 took a hit and survived ... hold off from claiming for now please. or KP from town..
and
On December 14 2010 09:35 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 09:34 orgolove wrote:
God damn. If RoL was town, why the fuck did he keep harping on for a non-majority vote lynch? How can you be any more scummy than that?
My FoS is still on LSB. His secret vote system could benefit none but the mafia. or his role.
I feel that Kenpachi knows something, but isn't scum. But his play is so bad I don't know what to make of it.
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On December 11 2010 12:10 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2010 12:04 CubEdIn wrote:On December 11 2010 11:58 LSB wrote:On December 11 2010 11:51 CubEdIn wrote:On December 11 2010 11:38 LSB wrote:What will I do as mayor I will hold a secrete ballot for the first elections. And I will post who voted for who afterwards. You know, mafia loves to redirect the first election? This will make it harder for them to. This is important for many reasons. Say we're going to lynch inactives. One is mafia, one is town Mafia: "Yo! Lets bandwagon this guy!" Town: "We'll their both inactive so I guess I'll vote for the town" Annul: "You guys lynched a townie. Sheep =P" Now. Imagine my system LSB: "Person A and Person B are inactive, please send me pm for who you vote for" Town sends PMs. Each person has about a 50% chance of dieng. Mafia doesn't have that much influence. Annul: "This person is mafia! Woot Woot!" In addition, I will not be able to influence the vote because I will post who voted for who afterwards. So if you see something messed up, you can call me out of it. (Of course, this also means that we got a great way to catch mafia). Let me tell you the loophole in your plan there, buddy. Say you're mafia. People choose two people to lynch, townie and mafia. You rig the "anonymous" votes and lynch the townie, even though most people voted for the mafia. You can never be checked/blamed for that since people agreed to secret votes. So yeah, that's not gonna be in the best interest of town IMO. In addition, I will not be able to influence the vote because I will post who voted for who afterwards. So if you see something messed up, you can call me out of it. (Of course, this also means that we got a great way to catch mafia). People will be like, "YOU ARE WRONG!" if I try to manipulate votes. Oh right, I didn't read that part, but it still gives you a certain degree of manipulation by hiding some mafia votes, if you are mafia. Like say the townie is winning by 7 votes, you switch 3 of the mafia votes to hide them, the difference is less significant, town is more confused. Just saying tho, I don't really care since it's just one night. Firstly, vote manipulation is always done by the mafia. In public it can be done easily. All the mafia has to do is make sure they either vote for other people or push a townie bandwagon. In private, they won't be able to predict who is going to be lynched. Secondly, if I'm mafia, you can examine the votes a wee bit more carefully. This way you'll have a better indication of who is mafia. See? Even if I'm mafia it's better for you!Thirdly, I'll accept someone to be the 'auditor' who also recieves votes
maybe its this post?
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I don't think LSB is scum anymore.. all his posts show a "I proved to you I am green but if you kill me I don't really care" attitude. Townies are more care free and reckless whereas if he were mafia he'd be very cautious with every one of his posts.
I also feel there are a ton of people slipping under the radar and haven't contributed anything yet. kitaman27, Jackal58, Opz, I think there are more..
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We still have time. We need to catch a clear red and lynch him day2 or else it is really going to go downhill for the town. I don't want another green/blue to die. If we really cannot find a clear red (yes I know it's hard) then we do have to go with LSB.
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On December 14 2010 15:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 15:06 GGQ wrote:On December 14 2010 15:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 14 2010 15:02 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I AM NOT HARRY. I have no idea what the hell is going on however we should NOT lynch LSB. RoL told me he and LSB were suspicious of orgo, I'm still confused about RoL's power however LSB apparently did act according to what RoL said he would. I understand that my powers sound like harry and that's what RoL thought at first but beleive me it's not. My power to block comes through the wands not the horcrux. We should lynch orgolove now and lynch LSB if orgo flips town. I think LSB and I are both telling the truth because the time LSB posted fffffuuuuu in the thread closely corropsonds with the time I received my pm telling me I lost my powers. I pm'd annul making sure I could talk about this and once I got the confirmation I informed someone via pm (who can choose to stay anonymous) and then checked the thread on found LSB's post. I repeat vote Orgolove Ollivander? Why do people keep doing this, lol, no one can confirm their character. Jk, Dumbledore had the Elder Wand. I know, but it helps me to think outloud.
It also clutters the thread with spam. Stop it's not helping the town. Sometimes it's good to not post.
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On December 14 2010 15:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 15:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 14 2010 15:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
sorry for talking for the mod, but results and actions are always returned with the day post. The reason being it allows the users to change their actions until the day post and makes it so day 1 rc shit doesn't happen. So LSB would not know the result of RoL's check before RoL was killed. Sorry LSB. Caught you. Quoting myself because I feel it is extremely important everyone sees this post. Lynch LSB. He lied about the fact that RoL checked orgolove and that orgolove killed RoL, because RoL would not have gotten this information until the day, when he was already dead.
This makes sense. Good thing you asked when do the checks get returned to the user. Voting to lynch LSB - gives the most info out of everyone else in suspicion.
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Kenpachi you're not getting anywhere with your claims, whether he is or not he is going down first and orgolove or you second.
I also FoS deconduo, all he has said in this whole debate was "Pretty obvious LSB is Snape" + now the last 2 posts.
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On December 15 2010 08:40 Airbag wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2010 06:01 deconduo wrote:
Big 'I Told You So' moment coming up. It's really not gonna look good for you if he turns out to be a death eater.
exactly, unless of course deconduo knows FOR SURE LSB is not red, because only scum knows who is scum or not.
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now his name is red and black lol annul edit
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I reaaaaally want Kenpachi dead, his posting is just unacceptable and ridiculous. Even if he were town, it'd be doing the town a favor to have him dead. But of course it'd be better to kill of a red, since it IS the objective of the game. I just really don't like Kenpachi..
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Also people that have been lurking away from this whole thing the whole time.
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Kenpachi is useless.. I mean if he thought he was Snape why won`t he just tell us before instead of just saying NO NO NO over and over again. And when we ask for an explanation he`s just like "trust me". Then AFTER LSB is revealed Snape he says, herp derp cuz I thought he was Snape. Scum.
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Yes, there are townies without a house/group. Namely me, a painting on the wall the likes to drink.
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Sorry, but how long do the inactives have before getting mod killed now? them being inactive is really putting a dent into who I can suspect.
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I definitely suspect Pandain, but I also have my doubts on other players. Here's something about "why" that I made in the last hour or so.
why
On December 11 2010 12:57 why wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2010 12:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 11 2010 12:20 why wrote:On December 11 2010 12:14 Mr.Zergling wrote:
I think LSB is making himself suspicious by proposing a 1st kill voting style that can be easily manipulated I actually think this debacle has made LSB come out looking pretty town. there's no way he wouldn't have thought of these objections if he was mafia and he would have realized that no sane town would ever agree to them.If we really want to have a private vote and have an auditor, we should have 5 or 6 of them, chosen by RNG, to really ensure there is at least one town among them. Or is that too paranoid? Pure WIFOM. Of course everything WIFOM is possible, but it's really difficult to read into someone's intentions. Good point. Sorry about that. I like reasoned vote a lot. Of all of them I think that would result in the most discussion and more discussion is always better.
On December 14 2010 14:49 why wrote:
right, sorry I'm not used to this.
On December 14 2010 15:24 why wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 15:23 why wrote:On December 14 2010 15:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 14 2010 15:18 orgolove wrote:On December 14 2010 15:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Ok, i have a question about the DT.
When a DT checks his target. Does he get the info that night? Or does he get it in the morning? If it returns in the morning, then LSB is lying about orgo killing RoL, because RoL wouldn't be able to tell LSB his result.
If he gets the result at night, then it's still not concrete on LSB.
annuuulllllllllllll Exactly.Look at his words carefully and you can find countless holes. And look at LSB's claims right now. On December 14 2010 15:09 LSB wrote:
Okay, that makes things a lot easier.
1) I contribute to the death eater count. So basically I hold half a KP (like all other death eaters). So yes, I understand, lynching me reduces the same amount of KP as lynching orgolove.
2) Since Meapak is not harry, he must be lying about being blocked. There you go. Two mafia. This explains why RoL was hit
3) As long as I am alive, Harry is unkillable. Thats why you guys should try to keep me alive as long as possible.
Wow. So now he's claiming BOTH of us are lying? When he's have been scummy ALL GAME? And how many roles is he claiming now? First he claimed to be a Mafia Traitor. Next he claimed to have tracker. Now he's also claiming that, on top of all his other abilities, he's now an advanced martyr. Are all of you seriously believing this nonsense?? That didn't answer my question... I've never played DT, so idk how it works. When does the DT get his check results back? :3 This is what annul said on page 25. 1. Substitution roles. 2. Protection roles 3. Investigation roles. 4. Non-standard kill roles. 5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills. 6. Voldemort's personal kill. Nevermind misread question. Sorry.
Apologetic tone in most of his posts
Being cautious
On December 11 2010 16:06 why wrote:
All my Harry Potter knowledge has gotten me is that whoever is Colin Creevey probably has the sample "Camera Fanatic" power.
Speaking of which, anybody got any good ideas of in flavor power roles for the death eaters? It would be nice to have some idea of what they could be capable of.
On December 13 2010 06:39 why wrote:
If I recall correctly, Snape looked evil but was actually good. I could see him as a miller, but if he was he probably would have claimed already.
On December 13 2010 06:52 why wrote:
^ this makes imperious curse unlikely since there are 8 confirmed death eaters. I guess one of the death eaters could have polyjuice potion or something. But I don't think any of the death eater characters are specifically associated with polyjuice potion like barty crouch jr would have been.
On December 14 2010 15:23 why wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 15:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 14 2010 15:18 orgolove wrote:On December 14 2010 15:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Ok, i have a question about the DT.
When a DT checks his target. Does he get the info that night? Or does he get it in the morning? If it returns in the morning, then LSB is lying about orgo killing RoL, because RoL wouldn't be able to tell LSB his result.
If he gets the result at night, then it's still not concrete on LSB.
annuuulllllllllllll Exactly.Look at his words carefully and you can find countless holes. And look at LSB's claims right now. On December 14 2010 15:09 LSB wrote:
Okay, that makes things a lot easier.
1) I contribute to the death eater count. So basically I hold half a KP (like all other death eaters). So yes, I understand, lynching me reduces the same amount of KP as lynching orgolove.
2) Since Meapak is not harry, he must be lying about being blocked. There you go. Two mafia. This explains why RoL was hit
3) As long as I am alive, Harry is unkillable. Thats why you guys should try to keep me alive as long as possible.
Wow. So now he's claiming BOTH of us are lying? When he's have been scummy ALL GAME? And how many roles is he claiming now? First he claimed to be a Mafia Traitor. Next he claimed to have tracker. Now he's also claiming that, on top of all his other abilities, he's now an advanced martyr. Are all of you seriously believing this nonsense?? That didn't answer my question... I've never played DT, so idk how it works. When does the DT get his check results back? :3 This is what annul said on page 25. 1. Substitution roles. 2. Protection roles 3. Investigation roles. 4. Non-standard kill roles. 5. Non-Voldemort standard mafia kills. 6. Voldemort's personal kill.
On December 16 2010 13:23 why wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 13:18 kitaman27 wrote:On December 16 2010 13:04 LunarDestiny wrote:On December 16 2010 12:48 kitaman27 wrote:On December 16 2010 12:41 LunarDestiny wrote:On December 16 2010 11:44 LunarDestiny wrote:On December 16 2010 11:23 Kenpachi wrote:
Lunar is.. Padma Patil I got annul's approval to claim. Yes, I am Padma Patil and my alternative winning condition I win if Parvati Patil wins. Let me give the entirety of my winning condition: I win if Parvati Patil, by any manner, wins. I don't know how to interpret the last part. I did some research and Parvati is 100% town. Well, lets get back to decide our next lynch. Your claim makes no sense. Why would your alternate win condition be: "I win if another town wins" The only way this makes sense if one of the two of you are scum. Am I missing something? Are you aware of your twins identity? My winning condition is as it is stated. Interpret however you want. Also, I don't know who my sister is. Well how do you interpret it? What other way does it make sense unless one of you two are scum? There are alternate win conditions. We know that when Beneather died, the alternate win count went down by 3. This suggested (to me) that there was a Ravenclaw shared victory (Mr. Zergling, as the 3rd member, is Roger Davies or Cho Chang). There could be a similar Gryffindor House alternate win condition that Lunar can share in (if the Gryffindor house has 3 members, this neatly makes 4 total alternate win conditions left), or Pavarti could have yet another alternate win.
IIOA (Information instead of analysis)
Players who speculate about the setup more than they ask for other players' reasoning and/or accuse other players of being scum are probably group scum.
On December 14 2010 10:46 why wrote:(ps breadcrumb is when you fill your old posts with hints as to your role so you can confirm role-claim later, this is especially useful for mod-confirmed Masons  )
This post doesn't make him sound like a new player at all. And then:
On December 14 2010 13:18 why wrote:
I think we need some other people's thoughts on whether it is a good idea to reveal or not. I'm too inexperienced to know how this typically shakes out.
Wants other people to help him decide on whether an idea is good or not using inexperience as an excuse. Reds usually like the opinion of the masses to help them confirm on things.
+he has a lot of role fishing posts, however he does claim that he is in gryffindor:
On December 16 2010 20:19 why wrote:
By the way, we can confirm (at least the characters of) 3 more people.
Cho Chang or Roger Davies (the one not in the Ravenclaw House) can confirm by saying they are in the Ravenclaw and having no one dispute them (there are 4 total Ravenclaws on the list, 3 are in the House).
There are 5 Gryffindor members on the player list (Harry Potter, Hermione, Colin Creevey, Angelina Johnson, and Pavarti Patil). 3 are in the house. The remaining 2 can claim to be part of the House and, if no one disputes, are confirmed.
Coincidentally, I am in Gryffindor.
But someone needs to back him up on that..
On December 17 2010 10:05 why wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2010 09:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why are we voting Kenpachi? I put a vote on him to see if he would talk but I think at this point it's obvious he is just bad. Don't lynch Kenpachi.
Why:
Extremely inactive
Claims Gryffindor despite Jcarls having a confirmed Gryffindor circle that he ISN'T part of
There isn't a strong lynch right now. I think the Death Eaters have been mostly silent. With the small amount of discussion that's happened in this thread I'm not surprised we have almost no lynch target. To be clear, I am not claiming to be one of Jcarl's group. I am claiming to have a character that is Gryffindor that is NOT in Jcarl's group (there are 5 total Gryffindor members, 3 in Jcarl's group).
Again he is being very cautious here.
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There is still time til the day ends and I will hold my vote until something convincing pops up.
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Well the people that replaced the inactives do need to read the whole thread over... but I do agree they need to start contributing some because all these inactives are really detrimental to the game.
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Just woke up, give me a few minutes to read a few pages.
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There's still 20 minutes til 7 EST. I'm almost done reading.
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##Vote: ilovejonn
placeholder, fucking 10 minutes I need time to think. Why did I wake up so late. = =
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No, I have a placeholder, re read the last page.
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annul is probably still sleeping or tallying up the votes from the pages.
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That is a pretty ridiculous claim, if Dr.H flips green there are clear signs of liars, and yet you want to waste a lynch on me?
Look, I am not a lie detector okay? I need time to process my thoughts, I haven't even ate yet since I woke up to read through the pages. If I vote for someone I need to at least give a reason and not just bandwagon.
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Holy crap, I didn't even see the voting thread. I'm voting Pandain based on his wishywashy voting.
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On December 18 2010 09:17 CubEdIn wrote:Here, I can have a placeholder as well. And I'll just post things like: "Oh, I'm so undecided" "Oh, I sure hope you guys are right" "The horror, I need to type a post and stuff" And hope neither town or mafia sets sights on me, see how the game ends. PERFECT PLAY IMO.
Whatever you say.
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annul didn't even make his post yet, well either way even if my vote doesn't count it won't matter very much.
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I'm guessing he's just gonna sleep til morning. Hope he did well on that exam lol.
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## Vote annul
HE EVEN EDITS HIS POSTS!
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LOL yeah, I'm terribly sorry. I blame myself for staying up late and waking up super late at night, then not having enough brain power to judge anything. I didn't have a lot to work with since people didn't trust me that much I didn't have any good PM's to me. Kitaman sent me some but it was just like VOTE DR.H, without any other information as to why. It's really tough having to analyze and read so much with a given time limit. Anyways good game, I'm sure to play more mafia in the future!
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