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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6784 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On December 18 2010 04:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: No we should lynch Pandain. If pandain flips red then we'll lynch drh, if pandain is green then drh is somewhat cleared. I'd rather not lynch drh on the ouside chance he is a medic. But look at pandain, if drh is mafia than it would appear as though he switched identities in order to better defend pandain. Now (again speculating that drh is mafia) pandain must have a pretty valuable role for drh to have come out of hiding specifcally to defend him. Therefore if both drh and pandain are mafia than it makes more sense to lynch pandain first. If Pandain pops up green then we have nothing on DrH. Mafia defend townies all the time. It was DrH that was caught lying, not Pandain. We should lynch DrH first and analyze from there. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
On December 18 2010 03:01 kitaman27 wrote: Do you still disagree that the second medic should remain hidden until DrH's alignment has been revealed? I'm still not sure why the real medic should claim publicly. You think I'm working with pandain? I had my vote on pandain before this. When DrH flips red, I would suggest he is looked into as well based on how much he is soft defending him. You don't have to think I'm against you - I read the post. Just please try and understand my concerns. The worst case scenario would be to mislynch a medic, and only have a probable town to blame. We still have time to hear his side as well. I don't know who you are working with. I simply found Pandain's timing to be suspecius and pointed it out. He is definitely around. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
I can confirm that Dr.H PMd me at the start of the game (as Airbag) posing as a noob. He was asking some questions, saying he wanted to team up with a veteran to stay alive. I am by no means a veteran, and he was trying to sweet talk me to get my trust. After watching him post, I had determined that he was most certainly a smurf. When I called him out on it, he eventually told me that he was DocH. He also made a claim early that he was able to protect people, so I figured he was Poppy. When talking to Kitaman, he said that he had a DT who had found the real Poppy, and it was not Airbag/Dr.H. We really need Kitaman's dt to claim now. If the dt claims, we will be certain that either the dt or Dr.H is lying. If the dt is telling the truth, we kill a mafia in exchange for a dt to be out in the open which I think it a good trade. If the dt is lying, we lynch a medic in exchange for a mafia lynch tomorrow. This is not as good but at least we get a compensation. I don't think we shouldn't lynch someone because they claim a certain role. There is an alternative plan to prove Dr.H is town: Kenpachi can name check Dr.H. And Dr.H can protect Kenpachi. This plan will ensure Kenpachi's safety and we can confirm Dr.H's alignment. If Kenpachi dies, then we lynch Dr.H tomorrow. The risk is the mafia can roleblock or bus either of them to make it not work. | ||
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Gabriel
149 Posts
i ask you where you at? Sorry about my inactivity it is going to take a while to get in form. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On December 18 2010 02:20 CubEdIn wrote: I say we ask annul to modkill both for role-claiming. Then we can have our lynch + a sure mafia. i explicitly allowed "roleclaiming" to confirm or deny DTs calling someone out | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
I believe Kitaman27 is being railroaded by mafia, not that he is mafia himself. Lynching him is stupid, he's just misguided. Lynching Pandain is stupid also, he's inactive but he isn't scummy. We are at a point in a game where we need to lynch SCUMMY players. We should go on with the why lynch. Or coagulation. I posed as a noob to attempt to trick mafia into trying to manipulate me. It was easy bait and only LSB had the balls to take it. Surprise surprise he flipped red. Thanks to me we got a scumkill Day 2. I can prove just as well that I'm poppy, just have your pocket DT check me. So this is the second time someone likely lied to try to get me killed. I'm very interested to know who it was that told Meapak that they alignment checked me and I was red. Annul confirmed to me there are NO insane roles and any situation involving bus drivers/etc. could NOT affect the results of the investigation. Meapak won't tell me who it is, funny huh? On the topic of LSB/PM's easy to fake isn't that the same argument mafia used to make Amber look bad in Salem Mafia? Why would the mafia bus a VERY GOOD mafia player on day 1. I'd bus someone like Kenpachi, NB, or Coagulation no problem. But LSB? Coagulation is probably mafia. his attacks on LSB are very weak and he eggs on the lynch without actually posting anything that would make anyone more likely to go along with it. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On December 18 2010 06:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: A DT can check me and confirm I am indeed Poppy Pomfrey. Someone already lied to Meapak and said they alignment checked me and found out I was red which annul confirmed could not happen. Kitaman won't tell who counter claimed but good job telling the mafia that I'm the healer. Hopefully the Bus Driver won't be stupid today and he'll switch me with somebody else so I don't die tonight. Elder. Cough Cough. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
ive been awake 22 hours and i just took one of the hardest exams ever. not even sure i will make it to 7 pm in terms of being awake if i do end up too tired, ALL VOTING WILL CEASE AT 7 PM. anything after that will not count. soon as i wake up ill tally it and put up the night post. we are already way ahead of normal schedule in this game so a few hours delay today wont hurt ps this also means you need to vote to avoid modkill, please do this. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
I can't say anything to that except "No, I am Poppy Pomfrey and not the elder" so this doesn't really take the discussion anywhere. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On December 18 2010 06:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I can't say anything to that except "No, I am Poppy Pomfrey and not the elder" so this doesn't really take the discussion anywhere. "found out I was red which annul confirmed could not happen." Wait a minute, are you saying annul confirmed you are not red? PM please? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On December 18 2010 06:33 kitaman27 wrote: "found out I was red which annul confirmed could not happen." Wait a minute, are you saying annul confirmed you are not red? PM please? annul specifically told me I could not quote it since you can not use direct mod quotes to confirm your alignment. I knew there were no insane roles because I read that in the OP. I asked annul why I would be alignment checked as red and he said that is impossible. I figured "hey maybe a bus driver switched me with a death eater so he got a bogus result" and he confirmed that is impossible as well. So the only explanation is that person lied to make me look red. I'd like to know who it was. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
1. He defends Pandain. We can't use this to determine if he is town or mafia. 2. jcarlsoniv's post I can confirm that Dr.H PMd me at the start of the game (as Airbag) posing as a noob. He was asking some questions, saying he wanted to team up with a veteran to stay alive. I am by no means a veteran, and he was trying to sweet talk me to get my trust. After watching him post, I had determined that he was most certainly a smurf. When I called him out on it, he eventually told me that he was DocH. He also made a claim early that he was able to protect people, so I figured he was Poppy. When talking to Kitaman, he said that he had a DT who had found the real Poppy, and it was not Airbag/Dr.H. This post shows us that Dr.H claimed to jcarlsoniv to be Poppy. jcarlsoniv was told by Kitaman who was told by a dt that another Poppy was found. There's too many loopholes here. If either Kitaman or the dt is mafia, then lynching Dr.H would be stupid. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
assume if you do not see me act, there are no cheats. i answer many rules questions in PM land by many people. while im sure most people will be posting the correct answers to what i tell them, do not assume everyone does all of the time. in no way am i implying one way or another that what is going on now is a lie. if you have a question yourself, ask it to me and i will tell you what you wish to know. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
1. If a person is alignment checked as red, can he be a blue? 2. Can a bus driver switch a blue with a death eater, is it possible that he will get a bogus result? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On December 18 2010 06:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote: annul specifically told me I could not quote it since you can not use direct mod quotes to confirm your alignment. I knew there were no insane roles because I read that in the OP. I asked annul why I would be alignment checked as red and he said that is impossible. I figured "hey maybe a bus driver switched me with a death eater so he got a bogus result" and he confirmed that is impossible as well. So the only explanation is that person lied to make me look red. I'd like to know who it was. I'm not going to allow you to change the subject anyways. I have called for your lynch because your double pommy claim contradiction and your scummy play, not because of some alignment check. If you are indeed medic, why role claim day one. Certainly that isn't something you approve of is it? | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On December 18 2010 04:57 LunarDestiny wrote: From jcarlsoniv: I can confirm that Dr.H PMd me at the start of the game (as Airbag) posing as a noob. He was asking some questions, saying he wanted to team up with a veteran to stay alive. I am by no means a veteran, and he was trying to sweet talk me to get my trust. After watching him post, I had determined that he was most certainly a smurf. When I called him out on it, he eventually told me that he was DocH. He also made a claim early that he was able to protect people, so I figured he was Poppy. When talking to Kitaman, he said that he had a DT who had found the real Poppy, and it was not Airbag/Dr.H. We really need Kitaman's dt to claim now. If the dt claims, we will be certain that either the dt or Dr.H is lying. If the dt is telling the truth, we kill a mafia in exchange for a dt to be out in the open which I think it a good trade. If the dt is lying, we lynch a medic in exchange for a mafia lynch tomorrow. This is not as good but at least we get a compensation. I don't think we shouldn't lynch someone because they claim a certain role. There is an alternative plan to prove Dr.H is town: Kenpachi can name check Dr.H. And Dr.H can protect Kenpachi. This plan will ensure Kenpachi's safety and we can confirm Dr.H's alignment. If Kenpachi dies, then we lynch Dr.H tomorrow. The risk is the mafia can roleblock or bus either of them to make it not work. trying to expose DT lol ?? soft defense of DOCH | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On December 18 2010 06:39 LunarDestiny wrote: Question to Annul: 1. If a person is alignment checked as red, can he be a blue? 2. Can a bus driver switch a blue with a death eater, is it possible that he will get a bogus result? 1. alignment checks will not lie, with the exception being roles that explicitly provide for such an incorrect DT result, of course. alignment checks never return colors, only "town-aligned" or "death eater-aligned" 2. a bus driver can switch any two players. if a bus driver switches, for example, dumbledore and bellatrix, if an alignment DT checks dumbledore, the result will be "bellatrix is death eater-aligned." the DT always knows the bus came through. (i actually will not say the role name but the player name, so it would be like "qatol is death eater aligned" etc) | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
Yes, the post is a defense to Dr.H. | ||
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