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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 01 2010 14:27 GMT
#881
im also not sure how amber is confirmed
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
December 01 2010 14:33 GMT
#882
On December 01 2010 23:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Amber, can you remind me why you are basically confirmed please? I don't think you answered me when I first asked.


Have you not read this?

+ Show Spoiler +

SUBJECT: New Developments and Day2 Lynch
Hey, nights about to end, and we're about to get some new information, but before that happens, can I ask you what you think about Town's reasoning on who's mafia? I understand that I draw suspicion because I basically cemented Brownbear's lynch, and if we look at him as a townie, it's like, yeah durrr people who voted BB. But the thing is, I don't think that's actually a totally fair assumption to make. I mean, did you see Protact's way of "fishing?" I think it's the scum's way of getting in touch with the chaos ensuant. Then, guess what, Protact just happened to vote FOR Kenpachi to maybe help save Brownbear?

Anyway, I think it makes sense that mafia DID get in contact with BB, and in that case, we shouldn't be focusing on who voted BB, but who voted Kenpachi. This includes:
Barunder
Protactinium
Node
KtheZ
Youngminii

I'd say Node and Youngminii are fairly quiet, which both makes me think they could be lurking mafia. However, I'd like to get your opinion on this because while it makes sense, the rest of the town seemed to have just glossed over it. =/

"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 01 2010 14:38 GMT
#883
i still dont get it.
explain plz.
i have no idea how being the deciding vote can confirm you as town. from that post.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 01 2010 14:44 GMT
#884
I had missed that post, thanks amber.

But I'm with Coag, I don't really see how that confirms you.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
December 01 2010 14:47 GMT
#885
On December 01 2010 23:38 Coagulation wrote:
i still dont get it.
explain plz.
i have no idea how being the deciding vote can confirm you as town. from that post.


What are you talking about?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 01 2010 14:53 GMT
#886
how does it confirm you as town??
thats what im talking about.
spit it out.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
December 01 2010 15:12 GMT
#887
On December 01 2010 23:53 Coagulation wrote:
how does it confirm you as town??
thats what im talking about.
spit it out.


Mafia member asks me for 'help' analyzing players.
Mafia member sends me a list of suspects before he dies.
Mafia member dies. I visibly post the received PM as soon as I see it.

Why would he have this conversation with me if we were on the same team? How on earth could I fake the conversation we had?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 01 2010 15:21 GMT
#888
i remember now.
i was thinking that happend to someone else for some reason.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
December 01 2010 15:39 GMT
#889
On December 02 2010 00:12 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2010 23:53 Coagulation wrote:
how does it confirm you as town??
thats what im talking about.
spit it out.


Mafia member asks me for 'help' analyzing players.
Mafia member sends me a list of suspects before he dies.
Mafia member dies. I visibly post the received PM as soon as I see it.

Why would he have this conversation with me if we were on the same team? How on earth could I fake the conversation we had?


I feel like it's decently easy to fake conversations if the plan at the start of the game for mafia was to use the PM system to manufacture fake PMs. Throughout the game, even at the start, write PMs to each other with fake info and then post them when needed. I don't think that makes you confirmed 100% but at least it makes you less suspicious.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
December 01 2010 15:58 GMT
#890
On December 02 2010 00:39 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 00:12 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On December 01 2010 23:53 Coagulation wrote:
how does it confirm you as town??
thats what im talking about.
spit it out.


Mafia member asks me for 'help' analyzing players.
Mafia member sends me a list of suspects before he dies.
Mafia member dies. I visibly post the received PM as soon as I see it.

Why would he have this conversation with me if we were on the same team? How on earth could I fake the conversation we had?


I feel like it's decently easy to fake conversations if the plan at the start of the game for mafia was to use the PM system to manufacture fake PMs. Throughout the game, even at the start, write PMs to each other with fake info and then post them when needed. I don't think that makes you confirmed 100% but at least it makes you less suspicious.


You are free to be skeptical. I don't need everybody to believe that I'm a confirmed townie, but I'll be playing the game under the assumption that I have confirmation leverage. I never play with deceit in this game but it is up to the other townies to recognize that.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 01 2010 16:00 GMT
#891
amber is pretty legit.
not 100% confirmed but close enough.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 01 2010 16:49 GMT
#892
On December 02 2010 01:00 Coagulation wrote:
amber is pretty legit.
not 100% confirmed but close enough.


This. The only thing that I don't like is amber being like "cuz, ya know, I'm confirmed townie and all" in every single post. It's as if he's REALLY trying to ingrain it in our brains.

Also, you should have linked the post that showed you were townie, amber, not a post that really proved nothing. But I will trust you for now.
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Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
December 01 2010 18:31 GMT
#893
Hey, just a quick "Hi, I'm actually paying attention" post.

I'm working on a largish analysis, but I don't want to post it till I'm done, so i'll just watch for a little longer.

Also, just as an aside, I think that it would be profitable for people to review some day 1 posting. Good stuff there.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 19:29 GMT
#894
On December 02 2010 00:39 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2010 00:12 Amber[LighT] wrote:
On December 01 2010 23:53 Coagulation wrote:
how does it confirm you as town??
thats what im talking about.
spit it out.


Mafia member asks me for 'help' analyzing players.
Mafia member sends me a list of suspects before he dies.
Mafia member dies. I visibly post the received PM as soon as I see it.

Why would he have this conversation with me if we were on the same team? How on earth could I fake the conversation we had?


I feel like it's decently easy to fake conversations if the plan at the start of the game for mafia was to use the PM system to manufacture fake PMs. Throughout the game, even at the start, write PMs to each other with fake info and then post them when needed. I don't think that makes you confirmed 100% but at least it makes you less suspicious.

That's ridiculous unless the mafia planned specifically on bussing ghrur to make Amber look innocent. Ghrurs death was a clear accident.
RIP Aaliyah
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
December 01 2010 19:31 GMT
#895
Please remember to send all night actions in 6 hours remain in the day
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 19:37 GMT
#896
I don't know why people say faking PM conversations is so easy, it really isn't. Even with the dead, it's hard to write for two different people and make it look real and it's a huge risk that almost nobody is willing to take.

I've never seen a fake pm conversation ever playing mafia on TL.
RIP Aaliyah
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
December 01 2010 19:38 GMT
#897
On December 02 2010 04:31 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Please remember to send all night actions in 6 hours remain in the day


everyone remember to send them to both myself and RoL. In the event that only one of us is around for the 8pm deadline we both need the actions.

Thank you
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 01 2010 19:38 GMT
#898
iv never seen one either
But if i did it wouldnt surprise me..
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
December 01 2010 21:41 GMT
#899
It would surprise the hell out of me. It's one of those things you think mafia would do but they never do or will because it's too risky and too scummy.
RIP Aaliyah
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 01 2010 21:49 GMT
#900
On December 02 2010 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I don't know why people say faking PM conversations is so easy, it really isn't. Even with the dead, it's hard to write for two different people and make it look real and it's a huge risk that almost nobody is willing to take.

I've never seen a fake pm conversation ever playing mafia on TL.

Hmm I doctored some PMs in XXVIII. I doubt anybody read any of them though.

They still served their purpose!
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
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