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I don't mind being the target for a DT check... but I wonder if it'd be better to use on someone else. From my perspective anyway. But I guess you all think I'm scum so maybe it is a worthwhile check. I'm going to go ahead and tell the DTs to check whoever they think is most likely to be scum.
One thing to be wary of though is bandwagons, no matter how legitimate they seem. ie. right now I might seem scummy, but if I get lynched/die, when I flip town, make a note of people who started it, and then make a note of people who pushed it.
That said, right now, I don't think DrH is mafia. I never did, because if a medic actually came up to him and he was, he wouldn't tell the town, he'd kill that person either n1 or n2, depending on how paranoid he was. If the whole thing was a scheme, I'd expect a better fake scenario than that. Not to mention that the mafia can win by preventing the town from doing anything (ie. Day 1 "there's no discussion to be had so let's not talk about anything") / if the town does nothing, the mafia win.
For those of you still wondering why I voted for Kenpachi, you'll notice that most of the times where Kenpachi was above BB, someone would bump up BB. Suspicious? I think so.
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On November 29 2010 13:05 Kenpachi wrote:how did i predict that you would automatically vote me after reading the day post?
My (and deconduo's) experiment succeeded. Why would I not heed the results? O_O. I already thought day 1's voting was strange. ghrur flipping red only made it even more suspicious. I'd be a fool to NOT vote for you, unless you have a valid reason?
On November 29 2010 12:18 Kenpachi wrote:
I dont understand why you included the people who voted for Pandain.. it doenst have anything to prove me as mafia.
Though, deconduo caused a fucking shitstorm on me by planting a bomb on ghrur and i understand why people would think im red because ghrur voted me on the last second
Are you saying you would have preferred that he didn't put a bomb on ghrur?
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On November 30 2010 14:10 Kenpachi wrote:
And Darth, i just dont like him ~_~ actually i despise him, but dw i wont let it affect town from winning the game
^^v
On the other hand, your defense that you're town is so convincing.
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I'd be more willing to switch from Kenpachi if exactly what I was seeing wasn't happening (ie. late push to switch). We can definitely get info out of lynching him. If he flips town, we can look for a more even distribution between bandwagons by mafia members the first day. If mafia, then we check BB's bandwagon, blah blah all this pointed out before.
To change now might be exactly what the mafia what. Granted, he might be town. But I don't want to risk the chance that he's mafia and then let him get away because the town is wishy washy -__-.
For those of you commenting on my "lying", yea, I did lie. Initially, I was being cautious with DrH, but I was convinced that he was town pretty quickly - I continued to pressure him just to check his reaction, but after the first day or so, I posted my actual thoughts. Why? Because the first day is generally "oh there's nothing to talk about," so you have to make it something to talk about.
On December 01 2010 04:49 Pandain wrote:
Why?
Because lynching a Chaos ensurgent really offers us no information. Note how nobody has really been defending Kenpachi, at least there isn't that sense of "omg must save kenpachi" that mafia would've typically done. Instead, there's quiet disagreements, but no outright attempt. This makes me think mafia is at least content to let him be lynched, as for some reason people have decided to lynch for really no reason.
There is now! And if he is a CE, we still want to kill him... not sure what that part of your post is about.
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On December 01 2010 07:57 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 07:21 Kenpachi wrote:
hello Eiii. Lets watch me get lynched Hi ken. For now, I'm gonna hop on the bandwagon as well-- it seemed like pretty decent reasoning at first, and no one really pushed back until it became clear that ken was going to be lynched. Not that I'm experienced or anything, but I feel like the info we'd get if ken's red would be game-winning. If not, then that sucks, but I just haven't seen anything that really sways me to believe that ken is green.
I think the only think that could sway anyone is the fact that no one has pushed against his lynch, which means mafia are bus-ing him or he's town. It's all WIFOM, so it's up to you.
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On December 01 2010 10:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Final tally, DarthThienAn is to be lynched.
lololoolol. <3
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On December 01 2010 10:16 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Night 2
As the town ran around screaming a chorus of different names for who they wished to kill as the sun set one named rang out above all the others. The town jeered and cheered as they pulled DarthTheinAn up the gallows and let him drop.
DarthTheinAn the Townie has died.
i before e except after c 
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On December 03 2010 13:48 flamewheel wrote:Darth flamewheel watches. Resize, damn it!
Did someone call me?
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On December 08 2010 10:46 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 10:41 Incognito wrote:On December 08 2010 10:26 Radfield wrote:On December 08 2010 10:12 Kavdragon wrote:
Yeah, i think that this game will be quoted as a textbook example of how town circles can go wrong. I think that the mafia got a little lucky with the GF being DT checked day one, but they still deserved the win. Regardless of how badly the town played (yeah, me too), I think that the mafia did a decent job. Well played.
GG. Mafia got EXTREMELY lucky with that night one DT check, and with the fact that the other dt was modkilled on Day 1. Honestly, this game(along with the role-list) was handed to us on a silver platter. Dr H's scumhunting almost saved the day, but it was a steep slope to climb. On December 08 2010 10:18 Incognito wrote:On December 08 2010 10:16 CubEdIn wrote:On December 08 2010 10:13 Incognito wrote:On December 08 2010 10:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
From what I skimmed, did Jcarlsoniv keep saying his second target was Eii? Because he never actually had a bomb on Eii. You guys didn't do anywhere near enough analysis later on and I don't know why after you lynch the first veteran you didn't move to the second "veteran". Something I learned a few games ago, if you know that one of two people are mafia kill them both. Not necessarily true. 2 veterans in a game is perfectly reasonable and has been in quite a few setups in the past. In that case, town should've let both live. Killing one based on the fact that there's just one vet, and then letting the other go is dumb. No, YM wasn't lynched JUST because he was a vet. It was because he claimed to be a vet AND he wasn't contributing/playing his normal style. Yes, people should've looked at the lynch more closely, but this wasn't all too irrational. Agreed. People were comparing myself and YM: Both semi-veteran players, known for contributing but are not. The big difference was that all of my posts looked like they were contributions, but were not. Where as YM was simply not contributing. This pegs me as mafia, and him as something else(either blue, or disinterested, or IRL busy, etc) Also, had we not had the role list, we would have likely targeted YM in a blue-snipe attempt. His play was simply too uncharacteristic to go unnoticed. EDIT: I will say my play this game was extremely lackluster. No doubt about that. Yes, you were fairly obvious day 1 if you compare this play to your other play. However, what I'm interested in most here is the GF comparison. Everyone assumes that GF will be the mafia's strongest player. However, often mafia doesn't choose the obvious player as GF. This game, SR over Radfield. Mafia XXII, BM over me. Caller's mafia, a no-name player over Ver. Will be back for more comments later. Agreed, though I'd like to hope that I wasn't completely obvious until Day 2....
I thought you were pretty obvious. I was surprised you weren't dead the day after I died ><.
Especially because you didn't die night 1. Like so obvious! lol.
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