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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 01:32 GMT
#426
UNVOTE PANDAIN. YOUR GOING TO END THE DAY
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 01:32 GMT
#427
Ty
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 01:34 GMT
#429
Remember. There is a very good chance that today is Lylo. (Unless Pandain is telling the truth).

Therefore we HAVE to vote for a mafia.

I'll address your issues soon.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 01:41 GMT
#435
Okay lets check out the possible cases.
Me and Glasse are Mafia-
This is not feasible at all. We would have sat on our votes for Pandain. You guys would have lost as we would have three votes for Pandain. Look, you voted for Pandain, and also Coagulation voted for Pandain.

Pandain and Coagulation are Mafia-
Well Coagulation bandwagoned Pandain pretty fast. If they were mafia, Coagulation would have let Pandain have his chance to try to squirm out of it

Glasse and Coagulation are Mafia-
I have yet to go through their posts, but they've both been anti-pandian

Glasse is sole mafia-
This is pretty likely. But if we're going to hang our hats on this, we better be 100% sure.

Remeber. This is lylo. You have to hang your hat on something. It's a balls to the walls momement. I'm asking you to trust me.
Think through your actions.

Remember. As town, we have to be united. We cannot afford a split vote. Split vote = Game over.

+ Show Spoiler +
Still not convinced I'm town?
If I was mafia I wouldn't have yelled at you for voting. The voted would be tied 2-2-1, and no lynch would have happened.
Town looses
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 01:44 GMT
#439
On November 18 2010 10:34 Pandain wrote:
Actually case 2 is impossible. Since Coag already claimed to have protected you, and not glasse, therefore both mafia couldn't have used conversion.

For case 2, I'm not lying, and I've basically shown that Glasse is lying(He hasn't even responded to that.).
For case 3, there is a 33% chance of winning if we lynch Coag. You're saying I have to accurately guess who he will mind control. Leaving it up to that should not be done. Lynching Glasse is safer in that Point.

So Really, it comes down to me vs. Glasse again. And I've already basically shown why Glasse is lying, and how he has already screwed up.

So your right, either me and coag are mafia, or glasse is the sole mafia remaining. And I agree with the dead Dr. H that its glasse/kenpachi.

Lynching Glasse is Actually better.

(I believe you mean Case 1). Remember, in case 1, coag is lying. So he could be lying about who he protected. He could have protected Glasse
Case 2: Glasse is telling me the same thing. I can't believe either of you. Put it flatly, you both have scummy town play
Case 3: (See case 2).


Remember, Case 1 is still there. Vote for Coagulation, its the best for the town
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 01:46 GMT
#441
Okay to clear things up:

Glasse: Thank you for voting Coagulation
KtheZ: If you doub me, see this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168344&currentpage=22#435
Coagulation: Sorry for lynching you, but as you can see, it's the best action for the town. If you would vote for yourself, that would be great.
Pandain: Remember case 1. Don't discount that.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 01:49 GMT
#445
Okay, to explain Case 1 a bit more to you.

Case one
Night two:
Coagulation saves Glasse
Glasse converts Coagulation
Kenpachi converts Pandain
Mafia hits Artanis[Xp]

What happens:
Coagulation is converted. Glasse is still alive.

See?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 01:52 GMT
#448
Pandain. If you want analysis. This is why.

Yesterday I defended two people. You and Coagulation. The only reason why Doctor H backed off from attacking you two was because I hinted that I tracked them.

The mafia knows this two. But for some reason, out of you and coagulation, they choose to try to convert you.
This is because Coagulation was mafia. The Mafia knew that I didn't immediately come to the town and say I found a mafia. So they knew that I tracked you. That's why they tried to convert you.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 01:53 GMT
#450
On November 18 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 10:48 Glasse wrote:
pandain if i could reach through my fucking screen and choke you i would
this is making me angry

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

PROVE why i would be mafia, mr. fake flash.
all you are saying right now isnt really proving anything, just trying to evade the fact that lsb obviously fucking proved you are mafia...




rofl keep saying blank statements without backing them up. Just helps me more

You've faked claimed poorly.
1.The Real shrink would never roleclaim so fast, knowing how important it is.
2. There was no reason not to protect LSB night 1 FOR YORU REASON(LSB is not confirmed) Since he was confirmed(no other tracker.)
3.There was no reason to say the Doctor should RNG, since mafia will probably do that as well(yeah right.)

2. Actually there is every reason why not to protect me night 1.
The town plan was to protect me. So the mafia wouldn't hit me.
Therefore if glasse choose to protect someone else, he could basically be protecting two people.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 01:54 GMT
#454
On November 18 2010 10:52 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 10:49 LSB wrote:
Okay, to explain Case 1 a bit more to you.

Case one
Night two:
Coagulation saves Glasse
Glasse converts Coagulation
Kenpachi converts Pandain
Mafia hits Artanis[Xp]

What happens:
Coagulation is converted. Glasse is still alive.

See?


Exactly. This assumes Glasse is mafia.
Case 3, assumes glasse is mafia.
The Subsection of case 3 (with a 33% win rate) is lynching coag first, when lynching glasse first is the better choice.

Subsection 2 is a 100% of loosing if we lynch coag first.

I'm not accepting that. Especially with your scummy analysis. I've even defended glasse a bit after facepalming at your accusations of him.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 01:54 GMT
#455
On November 18 2010 10:54 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 10:52 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:49 LSB wrote:
Okay, to explain Case 1 a bit more to you.

Case one
Night two:
Coagulation saves Glasse
Glasse converts Coagulation
Kenpachi converts Pandain
Mafia hits Artanis[Xp]

What happens:
Coagulation is converted. Glasse is still alive.

See?


Exactly. This assumes Glasse is mafia.
Case 3, assumes glasse is mafia.
The Subsection of case 3 (with a 33% win rate) is lynching coag first, when lynching glasse first is the better choice.

Subsection 2 is a 100% of loosing if we lynch coag first.

I'm not accepting that. Especially with your scummy analysis. I've even defended glasse a bit after facepalming at your accusations of him.

EDIT
Subsection 2 is a 100% of loosing if we lynch glasse first.

I'm not accepting that. Especially with your scummy analysis. I've even defended glasse a bit after facepalming at your accusations of him.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 01:59 GMT
#461
On November 18 2010 10:53 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 10:52 LSB wrote:
Pandain. If you want analysis. This is why.

Yesterday I defended two people. You and Coagulation. The only reason why Doctor H backed off from attacking you two was because I hinted that I tracked them.

The mafia knows this two. But for some reason, out of you and coagulation, they choose to try to convert you.
This is because Coagulation was mafia. The Mafia knew that I didn't immediately come to the town and say I found a mafia. So they knew that I tracked you. That's why they tried to convert you.

Wait what. explain this more. I'm confused.

Okay. Remember, I said that I wasn't going to reveal who I tracked, unless they were going to be lynched by the town.

Doctor H, and Artanis caught on (We were playing pretty meta games over there, fishing for information).

You made some big mistakes day 1 trying to attack Doctor H. I defended you a bit, and Doctor H backed off. This was because I was hinting that you were tracked
Same reason why Doctor H and Artanis backed off of lynching Coagulation. I hinted that I tracked Coagulation.

Obviously I only tracked you. But I needed to make it look like I tracked Coagulation. After all, this was the most obvious of actions that could have happened. I should have tracked Coagulation since he "plays so badly" (Coag your a decent player, just everyone else thinks you suck for some reason. Just think a bit more)

So the mafia should have tried to convert Coag instead of you.

There are two reasons why you could have gotten converted.
1) They used both conversions in one day. Converting both you and Coag.
2) Coag was mafia. So they knew that I couldn't have tracked him (or else I would have supported and killed Coag by lynch). So they only converted you.

That's why I'm pretty sure that Coag is mafia.

Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 02:01 GMT
#462
On November 18 2010 10:54 KtheZ wrote:
Holy shit my mind is exploding from reading this. Just wondering, when does this day end?

Basically, if you still think I'm mafia... well I'll try still convincing you

If you believe me. Vote for Coagulation.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 02:05 GMT
#467
On November 18 2010 11:03 Pandain wrote:
I didn't catch you hinting you tracked me. Who says mafia did?

Playiing some mega mind games over there haha

Pandain, you have much to learn .

Check out DoctorH's recent game if you want to figure out meta and other stuff.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 02:06 GMT
#470
##unvote
This vote will change to Coagulation. I want to hammer him, just to make sure no wierd jazz goes down.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 02:08 GMT
#472
On November 18 2010 11:07 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 11:05 LSB wrote:
On November 18 2010 11:03 Pandain wrote:
I didn't catch you hinting you tracked me. Who says mafia did?

Playiing some mega mind games over there haha

Pandain, you have much to learn .

Check out DoctorH's recent game if you want to figure out meta and other stuff.


Do you really think Glasse/kenpachi would have thought of that?
Or even coag/kenpachi?

Glasse's play in Insane was perfect.
Town wouldn't lynch him
Mafia wouldn't waste a kill on him
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 02:17 GMT
#479
This is Lylo
Divided town = death. We need to agree on one person to vote for.
If we don't agree. We lose due to a split vote.

There are three cases.
The common ground for all three cases is that if we don't vote Coagulation. There is a chance we instantly loose.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 02:22 GMT
#483
On November 18 2010 11:19 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 11:17 LSB wrote:
This is Lylo
Divided town = death. We need to agree on one person to vote for.
If we don't agree. We lose due to a split vote.

There are three cases.
The common ground for all three cases is that if we don't vote Coagulation. There is a chance we instantly loose.

Well we need a vote count, first of all


Can we have a vote count?

Deconduo's afk. But I'll do it.

Pandain (1)
Coagulation

Glasse (1)
Pandain

Coagulation (1)
Glasse

Note Voting: LSB, KtheZ
Ties = No lynch
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 02:27 GMT
#486
On November 18 2010 11:23 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 11:18 Pandain wrote:
I'll respond to this LSB. And sure, I'm even thinking about lynching coag.
Would you rather have a chance at instant victory and instant loss?
Or leave it to pure chance?

That's why I'm favoring just settling it between me and Glasse, and using analysis to decide between them, rather than the wifom I would have to use if we lynch Coag.


I've learned from TMMM2 that there are times to play safe, and times to play ballsy and risky.
And it's not yet a time to play riskly.

As for settling it between you and Glasse with analysis -.-, I don't trust your analysis. Neither do I trust Glasse's analysis if he does any of you.

The thing is, I'm setting up a situation where the mafia will have to play along. Any stragglers are to be looked at suspiciously.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 18 2010 02:33 GMT
#490
On November 18 2010 11:31 Pandain wrote:
Technically isn't it 50% chance(me and glasse) vs. 33% chance(chance I'll correctly guess who he'll mc)
:p

Given that each action is equally likely.

It's a 2/3+1/3*1/3= 7/9 = 78% chance if we lynch Coag
It's a 2/3= 66% chance if we lynch Glasse
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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