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On November 15 2010 04:08 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2010 04:06 Pandain wrote:On November 15 2010 04:05 Kenpachi wrote:On November 15 2010 04:05 Pandain wrote:On November 15 2010 04:04 Kenpachi wrote:On November 15 2010 04:03 Pandain wrote:On November 15 2010 04:01 Kenpachi wrote:On November 15 2010 03:55 LSB wrote: Kenpachi what do you think of DoctorH? Can you address Pandain's accusation against him?
As for my analysis, I feel dumb for missing out on a post, so I'll do my analysis later. To Pandain: We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim if Artanis claimed Clam, Mafia could have tried to cause confusion and claim Calm and fall for the clam claim. the clam bros know that the role didnt specify which clam they were. We? We could have possibly faked a possible roleclaim? We being town.. assuming Artanis to be town.. So town fakes a possible roleclaim....why? to bait a Mafia to take the fake roleclaim But what if the vet's claim because they think they then found scum? Which was very likely. wait what? im not understand this :S Artainis Claims Clam.
Lets say LSB is a vet, I know that's bs because the Role PM doesn't tell who's who. I'll claim that Artanis is full of BS. Although DoctorH knows that Artanis is probably telling the truth, this shows the mafia our other bulletproff.
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DoctorH tries to bait mafia. KtheZ helps. LSB gets confused and yells at them that obviously Artanis is telling the truth.
Pandain then says the plan to bait mafia is dumb. Kenpachi explains it LSB says plan was dumb.
Or am I still confused.
Anyways, back on the topic of doctor H. I'm getting a neutral read, I want to hear what other people think.
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Today, I see that the lynch is going to be either voting for DoctorH or No one.
I believe that the night actions can be as advantageous for the town as it is for the mafia. Of course I'm a bit biased. However, I'm interested in why the mafia hasn't converted yet. I believe their going to try to save their conversions for the very end, and especially if they are able to take out the shrink.
Lets say there are 2 mafia left, and there is 4 town. The mafia can hit someone (it might miss), but then if the mafia both convert at the same night, and there is no shrink. It's insta victory.
So we have to recognize that Lylo is at 6 people. We don't want to lynch until we are absolutely sure. Anything to slow down the killing is good.
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On November 15 2010 09:16 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2010 08:14 Hesmyrr wrote:Lurker's comment:+ Show Spoiler +On November 15 2010 04:57 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2010 04:51 KtheZ wrote:On November 15 2010 04:23 deconduo wrote: Just fyi, mafia have a copy of all role PMs. Wait wtf, seriously? Yep, to stop any 'my role PM says this so I'm legit' sort of thing. Honestly I thought it was standard on all the semi-open setups like this =/ i dont get it are you calling kthez a lurker?? Hint, Hesmyrr isn't playing.
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On November 12 2010 09:43 deconduo wrote: Voting rules: 6. Voting is mandatory. You may NOT abstain. You can however choose to ##Vote: No One. If 'No One' is the majority lynch, then there will be no lynch for that day phase and it will go to night time.
Read the rules!
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In order for No-Lynch, does No-One have to gain the most votes, or a majority of votes?
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Okay, say we lynch coag. What information will we get?
Say we lynch Dr. H. What information will we get?
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On November 15 2010 11:12 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2010 11:06 LSB wrote: Okay, say we lynch coag. What information will we get?
Say we lynch Dr. H. What information will we get? 1.One less person that could be mafia(if town) 2.Information on Dr. H 3.Information from his posts. 4.If he's mafia/town Dr. H: 1.Information on Coag 2.Information on ARtanis 3.Information from whether he's scum/town 4.Possibly one less mafia. So forth. All right, can you elaborate on these posts and information? What's the ties between coag and Doctor H? What information is in Coag's posts?
I don't lynch for information. That's bad policy. Lynch because their scum. If your going to do a formal accusation. Go ahead.
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On November 15 2010 12:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2010 12:17 Pandain wrote: I knew I would regret it. Yet now if i withdraw vote I look scummy But again, who else do you think is a good lynch? well you look like scum to me coagulation is our worst player i don't trust glasse's inactivity and iirc he made a kinda bad scummy post on me but that could have been in kingmaker, i don't exactly remember I don't think Pandain is scum. He isn't doing the stupid "I'm going to take out Doctor H through lynching!". He did back off, so it's his strange idea of 'pressuring'. I don't think it's much different from his normal play.
Coag, we're all counting on better play from you this game. Can you put a bit more thought into your posts. Like understanding whether something is actually town favored or mafia favored? I don't want to resort to lynching you because you "the worst player"
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Regarding the lynch.
I believe that Pandain, Coagulation, Glasse, and Kenpachi are all playing like normal. The issue is whether or not we should peruse a policy lynch. Whether or not we should lynch people because they are acting like scum.
Things to consider. I can track one of the four people mentioned. That could verify a player, one way for us to doge using a policy lynch.
Normally I'd suggest against a policy lynch. However, there have been no major 'slipups' day 1. Except for Pandain, but that's normal for him. If we are going to actually go for a policy lynch, I am against policy lynching Pandain and Coagulation Pandain actually tries to do stuff, and he has moments. I know/think that Coag actually tries, so I'd rather not lynch him. Addressed to Coag: if you want to get better, maybe you can bounce ideas off of someone else who isn't playing the game?
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On November 15 2010 12:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Playing like "normal" doesn't mean you can't be scum
I feel Pandain is playing like scum. I feel that Glasse isn't playing like normal. There is no "normal" for Glasse because there is no meta read on him whatsoever Yes, I know that playing like 'normal' doesn't mean that they are town. What I'm saying is that normal analysis isn't going to apply to people who don't play normally. I could never read people like Divinek/Bill Murray, because they both seemed scummy to me all the time.
As for Glasse, I'd be willing to lynch him, because to him, playing like normal means to make cat sounds and not much else.
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Oh yeah.
Don't you think if Coagulation was mafia, his partner would have forced him to convert someone else day one?
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I'd rather not lynch Kenpachi without a chance for him to roleclaim. It would really suck if we lost an important role.
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Na, I went through his posts, he sounds normal. Not any dumb mafia bandwagon that he easily could pull off on DoctorH.
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WTF. Lynching for information? Didn't I already tell you that was a stupid idea?
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All right, I went through Youngminii's post, and his main point was "No Lynch is good"
##vote Youngminii
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Whoops I read that wrong
##unvote Youngminii ##vote: No one
I'll go back and take a closer look then
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All right. Youngminii's attack on DoctorH seems oftly... forced. He goes and falls back on Mafiascum stuff rather than actually trying to come up with actual analysis (Most of the time)
Unvote Vote Youngminii
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Youngminii, please shoot glasse or Kenpachi. They're kinof inactive.
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