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Pandain
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Standards for a King: 1.King should not lynch anyone before 24 hours. Don't be impulsive, don't be stupid. Obviously you should in fact wait until last moment possible(but don't forget :p.) There's nothing worse I can imagine than having a king execute someone at the first second. :/ 2.Calling/executing. Also should not be used,especially right now. I'm thinking we could save this towards late game. For example, if there's 2 town and one scum left, king can easily just execute both of them and win the game. With only 9 people, this isn't too impossible either. Don't be too rash. Follow the majority, at least as a guideline. We should probably decide as a group when to use call/execute. Which reminds me: Ace, does using execute AND Use: Excalibur mean you can get two kills in one day? | ||
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On November 09 2010 11:51 LSB wrote: Now as for the day 1 lynch. A big problem in every mafia game is inactivity. I don't want another drag_ being able to squeak by with barely any posts. We should immediately show it is not okay to be inactive. Inactive players hurt the town as they waste lynches down the road as the town will need to try to separate the mafia from the inactives. We should therefore lynch an inactive day one. This will force the assassins to discuss and not be able to turtle, increasing the chance they will slip up. The other options are to A) Lynch a scummy person. Take a look at Team Micro Mafia II, they found both scums day 1 B) Use Merlin. This would be like an abstain. If there are no inactives and no one is scummy, it's a good idea to use Merlin C) Use Excalibur. This is just random. I feel this is a waste of an action. We should focus on building a good town environment. Right now we should be pressuring the inactives via voting. I agree, we should encourage EVERYONE to do take part in valuable discussion. As soon as day starts, I'll vote someone, then once they talk enough, I'll vote someone else. We can talk about who REALLY to lynch later. Which is why I'm thinking for day1 to definitely wait out the whole 48 hours before lynching. | ||
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On November 09 2010 11:53 LSB wrote: Firstly, the king should not have any autonomy at all. The town should decide what the king does. Secondly, I don't think you understand what the king does. The king can only kill one person each round. He basically decides the lynch (like the mayor) Thirdly, follow the majority as a rule. This way we can tell if the assassin is the king and just using his role to get an extra KP I disagree, actually. I totally agree that he should follow the town, but sometimes you have to follow your gut. For the early days I highly agree that he should do what the town says, but just leaving that up to the town increases the possibility for scum to manipulate the whole thing. Now, if a king just does whatever he wants, is that suscipcious? Of course! However, leaving him a bit of room is a good thing imo. | ||
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On November 09 2010 12:00 LSB wrote: Following your gut is an easy way for the Assassin to gain KP. It's easy for an assassin to go against the town and execute a townie because it 'went against his gut'. We would have no read on the king. Think of it this way. Your way: Townie is king and goes against his gut: High chance of killing town Assassin is king: Easy extra KP There is no benefit besides an easier job for the Assassin Your afraid of the scum manipulating the results. This is public, so therefore if they start messing around, we'll be able to tell. However, if the scum is the king and manipulates the results, it's private, we won't be able to tell. Lastly, remember. we only have 2 mislynches until lylo. We cannot let the scum to gain a hold of any of our lynchs What do you mean, if the king manipulates the results? From what I understand, he does every single one of his actions in thread. | ||
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On November 09 2010 12:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Merlin should be used Day 1 if there are no good choices. I actually agree. Even if Merline is going to be unverifiable at best, if we have no good choices might as well go with the merlin. | ||
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let's get talking | ||
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On November 09 2010 12:41 orgolove wrote: Oh, I still agree that having the king be dependent on the town's decisions is the best course of action. Yeah, it's not totally riskless for the reds to be chosen as a king. But the hero lynch also works against townie kings as well. Even if the reds don't get chosen as a king during the first two nights, they have two night kills to hit the hero. Plus, there's 2 days where they can try to manipulate the town into lynching a blue, who has a 1/7 and 1/5 chance, respectively of being a hero. Given this, I think there's better than 1/2 odds that the hero will be revealed at the end of 2nd night. And I don't get it. Pandain, wtf? You just start off right away by randomly voting against a player with no basis? At best, you're bringing suspicion onto yourself as a red who doesn't care who dies as it's not one of your faction. At worst it's going to bite you in the ass if you indeed are red given the many common tells between voting and posting patterns. Did you not read my statement? I'm voting someone until they talk enough, then I'll change it. I'm doing this to get everyone talking, as anyone actually voting someone is either 1.mafia or 2. stupid. This is called pressure, not lynching. | ||
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Next! ##unvote ##vote Coag. | ||
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On November 09 2010 12:45 LSB wrote: Pandain. Can you shape up this game? Since this is micro mafia, I'd rather not want to waste a lynch killing a spammer for the sake of them confusing us. Just a thought. Remember, the hero can claim if needed. This is crucial as the hero could be a good counter to an assassin king, and could make sure a townie king does not hit him. (The actual situation is going to be a bit more complex, but we should talk about that when it actually happens) Pressuring, not lynching. Everyone calm down :p | ||
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On November 09 2010 12:47 BrownBear wrote: I think he wants you to start doing more than just pressure lynching - propose ideas, debate strategy, that kind of thing. Basically, do what others are doing. I have earlier, but now I'm just watching day9 then going to bed. So I might as well stop posting :/ | ||
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Of course, at the very least, wait for him to respond. | ||
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On November 10 2010 05:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: how can you defend being inactive and bad 1.You could wait for him to talk for one... 2.It's not just that about coag, by waiting longer we can have more time, having more people talk. More information=good. @Lsb: How does merlin affect the # of mislynches? | ||
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But we've got a game, so let's play  | ||
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Some notes: I doubt orgolove is red, since why would he make himself linked to Dr. H when the night actions I would've assumed would already have been sent(past original time.) This could just be a whole wifom thing, but I doubt it. We need to talk more. I need to talk more :p | ||
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Perhaps we should discuss? I'm also starting to think it might be a scum king this round :/ | ||
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*cries* One day, I shall be as persuasive as you one day. One day.... | ||
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On November 13 2010 10:16 Pandain wrote: I don't think Amber Light is neccesarily wrong. I mean, Dr. H supported Amber Light's idea and he was blue. And even I do somewhat. I agree it should be a guideline, and the king should outline his reasons why in thread he's going to do something, but just because he's saying the king doesn't have to follow the town's majority isn't bad. Basically this. Because he supported this isn't nearly a good enough reason to lynch someone. ##Vote Brownbear | ||
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That's why I asked how merlin affect mislynches, because I was confused. | ||
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I want to make sure I don't die | ||
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On November 15 2010 03:44 LSB wrote: It's lylo tomorrow, and kingmaker, make me king if you want to kill Brownbear. Shouldn't we discuss it first rather than just blindly lynching Brownbear? Just because Amber is innocent doesn't make Brownbear scum :/ | ||
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Pandain
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diaeeeeeeeeeeeeeee | ||
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That's such a harsh label... | ||
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Although tbh it was over when i was selected king. | ||
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Brownbear was kingmaker, probably picked me because I said we should think it out first. sorry brownbear  | ||
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