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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 19 2010 20:17 GMT
#881
On November 20 2010 04:32 kingjames01 wrote:
EVERYONE, I HAVE A PLAN!

No one wants to be eliminated, right? Every player, in theory, is in the game to win. It sucks being lynched early and no one likes being the the target. Thus, everyone fights really hard when they know they are facing a lynch vote. The ensuing discussion gets really messy and no one knows if it is a mafia-inspired lynch.

Here's my plan:
LYNCH HESMYRR.

  • He's confirmed that he was Sakura Gaibun
  • His last province was eliminated overnight so he no longer has a vote.


Wouldn't it be better if we lynch someone who cannot affect the game anymore? Someone whose vote does not count? We can still get information from their flip.

Here's the best part...
If he is town, we do not hurt ourselves by lynching him as the town-to-mafia vote ratio is not affected.
If he is mafia, we can benefit by clearing up confusion and finding connections between him and other Reds.

At this moment, this is our best possible proposed plan for a Day 3 action. Let's get out our vote.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
November 19 2010 20:21 GMT
#882
On November 19 2010 22:46 Loanshark wrote:
## vote Ace

hell, let's just all bandwagon so we can lynch somebody.


Voting Loanshark or BrownBear.

I was not bandwagoning Ace. I was voting Ace because I think he's scum. YOU NEED TO POST IN THE THREAD.

There Ace. Cast your vote for loanshark, and we'll be good.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 19 2010 20:40 GMT
#883
On November 20 2010 05:13 Ace wrote:
Here's a better one:

Lynch people who don't post.

If Hessmyrr is innocent, he has been active and can still help even with 0 votes since he'll be posting.

Players that aren't active don't vote and don't post. They may or may not hold land and regardless will make hitting majority that much harder.

There's my plan.

FYI I'm not trying to hide anything. Ace never hides.


Alright, Ace, I support my plan. You would, but only if it's not Hesmyrr. That's fine. To quote a previous post... You "prefer lynch of normal player over individual with 0 votes".

Why don't we ask Hesmyrr what he would do in this situation?

Hesmyrr, these questions are for you!
Do you find it suspicious that Ace is supporting you? Do you find it suspicious that Ace "prefer lynch of normal player over individual with 0 votes"?

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 17 2010 11:41 Hesmyrr wrote:
I find it really suspicious that you would prefer lynch of normal player over individual with 0 votes and whom you only have contact with.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 19 2010 20:41 GMT
#884
Ah, thanks Hesmyrr for replying so quickly.

If Hesmyrr supports this mafia-hunting plan, so should you.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 19 2010 20:46 GMT
#885
On November 20 2010 05:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2010 22:46 Loanshark wrote:
## vote Ace

hell, let's just all bandwagon so we can lynch somebody.


Voting Loanshark or BrownBear.

I was not bandwagoning Ace. I was voting Ace because I think he's scum. YOU NEED TO POST IN THE THREAD.

There Ace. Cast your vote for loanshark, and we'll be good.


~OpZ~, you are either avoiding the issue or being ridiculous.

If you really do think that Ace is scum, then you'll get more leverage out of a lynch on Hesmyrr than you would from a lynch on Loanshark. By splitting your vote, you are trying to ensure that a majority vote cannot pass.

If you purposely fracture today's vote, you're going to be facing a lot of pressure. If you're Red, you're not going to want that. If you're innocent, you're also not going to want that.

Stick to your stance and help us earn a lynch.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
November 19 2010 21:26 GMT
#886
So, I was wondering why people haven't been talking about killing that whoring kingdom.. Based upon two people that province claimed to me with night actions, the whoring kingdom could possibly be mafia. Does anyone have any insightful information?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 19 2010 21:30 GMT
#887
On November 20 2010 06:26 Chezinu wrote:
So, I was wondering why people haven't been talking about killing that whoring kingdom.. Based upon two people that province claimed to me with night actions, the whoring kingdom could possibly be mafia. Does anyone have any insightful information?


Oh, Kingdom of Whoring is definitely on my to-do list. The only problem is, I'm not sure how to crack that problem... We don't know which player controls those Provinces and I only know one of the Provinces that borders Province 11, 13 and 17, namely annul in Province 20.

At the moment, it will be hard to coordinate an Action dedicated to removing that scum-filled nation from the map.

Any ideas on how to do it?

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
November 19 2010 21:49 GMT
#888
On November 20 2010 06:30 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2010 06:26 Chezinu wrote:
So, I was wondering why people haven't been talking about killing that whoring kingdom.. Based upon two people that province claimed to me with night actions, the whoring kingdom could possibly be mafia. Does anyone have any insightful information?


Oh, Kingdom of Whoring is definitely on my to-do list. The only problem is, I'm not sure how to crack that problem... We don't know which player controls those Provinces and I only know one of the Provinces that borders Province 11, 13 and 17, namely annul in Province 20.

At the moment, it will be hard to coordinate an Action dedicated to removing that scum-filled nation from the map.

Any ideas on how to do it?



Well, Redavi can take province 13 by attacking it from above. Unless... Redavi was seduced by the whoring kingdom into an alliance. In that case, we are definitely in trouble..
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
November 19 2010 22:20 GMT
#889
Geez, forming alliances is a tough task to complete..
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
November 19 2010 22:23 GMT
#890
So when exactly is the deadline for votes for the lynch? And how many people are up for mod kills?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 19 2010 22:31 GMT
#891
On November 20 2010 07:23 Chezinu wrote:
So when exactly is the deadline for votes for the lynch? And how many people are up for mod kills?


Well, the Day 3 post came at:

On November 19 2010 07:22 Caller wrote:
Day 3


That's almost exactly 24 hours ago. I'm going to guess that we will get 48 hours this Day so we have 24 hours remaining until Hesmyrr flips Red.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
November 19 2010 22:36 GMT
#892
I didn't see any day/night cycle times in op. I know the first day ended extremely fast. His comment at the beginning of the voting thread:

"This thread will serve for all votes. Votes will end 24 hours after I post the start. Extensions may be granted at my discretion but will usually be if less than 2/3 players have voted."

based on that it seems like 24 hour days.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 19 2010 22:49 GMT
#893
We had approximately 48 hours and 16 minutes for Day 2.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 19 2010 22:54 GMT
#894
At the beginning of Night 2, Caller introduce a mandatory post during the Day/Night cycle.

This is a list of the players who did not make a single post during Night 2:
7. beneather
8. Kenpachi
12. Hesmyrr
14. drag_
17. Pandain
19. zerroth
21. Chezinu
23. DLCXVI

This is a list of the players who have yet to make a single post during Day 3:
4. Lexpar
7. beneather
8. Kenpachi
10. Seraph
11. Veldril
13. bumatlarge
14. drag_
16. ghrur
17. Pandain
19. zerroth

The intersection of the above two lists, and thus candidates to be mod-killed, is as follows:
7. beneather
8. Kenpachi
14. drag_
17. Pandain
19. zerroth

Note that I even was generous and included inane posts with no substance, for example, smiley faces. If Caller wants to be more strict, then there will be more names on this list.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 20 2010 00:12 GMT
#895
ok i just woke up

i like how people have said "theres only 2 scum hunting plans lol" when i have a third one: mass claim!

the hessmyr wagon is good, the logic by KJ is good, but we should do this tomorrow. let him use guerilla tonight if he has that power. if he doesn't, THEN we know his one out is not there and we can pop him.

we should, of course, vote ace today.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 20 2010 00:22 GMT
#896
On November 20 2010 09:12 annul wrote:
ok i just woke up

i like how people have said "theres only 2 scum hunting plans lol" when i have a third one: mass claim!


Actually, you weren't the first to suggest it; seRapH was. Therefore, there were only 2 plans: the mass claim one, and LSB's Save the Island From the Zombies plan... I mean SIFZ.

On November 20 2010 09:12 annul wrote:
the hessmyr wagon is good, the logic by KJ is good, but we should do this tomorrow. let him use guerilla tonight if he has that power. if he doesn't, THEN we know his one out is not there and we can pop him.

we should, of course, vote ace today.


Also, nice try but I already addressed the guerrilla warfare tactic. Congratulations, you've been elevated up the suspected mafia list.

On November 20 2010 04:13 kingjames01 wrote:
I'm going to post something before the mafia figure it out.

Here's what I'm predicting. Since voting is not mandatory, the mafia is going to wait on this vote until they are sure the town has stirred. They don't want Hesmyrr to flip.

Now, somewhere along the line, one of the more clever mafiosos might realize a way out, so I've been trying to think of a way for Hesmyrr or one of his scum buddies to wriggle out of it.

They're going to advocate keeping him around so that he can still "benefit" the town. Maybe they'll claim that he's a Guerrilla Warrior. Any player who does any such action is suspicious.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-20 00:26:05
November 20 2010 00:24 GMT
#897
explain what the benefit is of killing him TONIGHT as opposed to tomorrow?

if he is mafia (or normal town, really), he won't be able to use the guerilla power, right? so nothing happens and we pop him tomorrow without a problem.

if he is a guerilla, he can prove himself tonight and we just got out of killing an empowered townie.

there is no reason whatsoever to not postpone his death until tomorrow. notice i am not defending his lynch, only saying it is ILLOGICAL to do it right now.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 20 2010 00:25 GMT
#898
if you really really want to pop a territoryless player, then pop someone who lost their shit night 1, not night 2.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 20 2010 00:28 GMT
#899
-insert generic useless post with no real opinions-
I need to read this thread haha. I've only been skimmming it thus far. the format is so confusing!
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 20 2010 00:29 GMT
#900
wtf pandain

your "mood" is a golden snitch?
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