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However, I'd like to ask DrH 1 question, sorry if it hasnt been answered How can we be 100% sure you are not scum if there is the possibility of having shapeshifters in this game? Then you can always claim that you "guessed" wrong if you lynch a townie, and DT checks would show up as town. | ||
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The only way I can now communicate is through this topic, I suppose. | ||
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also, the reason the reds have a plague doctor is probably because blues visiting reds or vice versa can (i'd assume) infect reds with murrayitis as well This is what I immediately thought of after I read bumatlarge's post. I think its most probably that townies DONT have a virus spreading role; that role is extremely anti-town. | ||
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a PM network is severely damaged due to modkill(s) More like incinerated. | ||
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To add to your points: I agree that it is highly unlikely for there to be 3+ medics, mainly for the reasons you stated. Since we have lost 2 plague doctors ( Mafia and townie ones), it would probably to be safe to assume theres a HARD MAXIMUM OF 3 left, and a likely minimum of one that is town aligned. So now since M-itis has become a HUGE kill factor in this game, I'd like to point out this observation: All townies should consider if they really NEED to perform their role; Weigh out the risks and benefits of performing your role. Right now, 3 people out of 28 are infected, so there is a ~11% chance of infection (3/27) if you decide to act. Of course, people like PD, medic, VITAL power roles should act, but what im trying to throw out is to: ATTEMPT TO CONTAIN THE SPREAD OF M-ITIS RATHER THAN SPREADING IT. This post is intended to deter people from performing their roles without WEIGHING OUT THE RISKS. | ||
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Original Message From Ace: lol. Depending on who dies tonight, I think he might be the scummiest player in the game. I remember he said he could confirm himself, just like Dr.H did and so far he has never made mention of that fact again. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From bumatlarge: hope he gets a vig to the face. Otherwise he just a player causing arguments that lead no where and distract town from the vibrant display of information we have. Aeres first though. ----------------------------------------- Original Message From Ace: What do you think of Pandain? Read from top up; After browsing through the last 20-30 pages, I find Pandain to be the most scummy right now. His last 2 notable posts are: 1. We need medics to protect dxcvii, he's the only person who we really KNOW is going to get hit. If anyone's in a town circle with medics, make sure to coordinate them so at least one person(prefferably one) is protecting him. I find it quite scummy how he is trying to give directions to the blue roles, while also trying to have the medics mass save this one person. He tries to cover this up by telling PM circles to coordinate, but he knows full well that several PM circles (fishball and bumatlarge for now) have gone to hell. 2. He made an enormous post about how Dr.H is oh so terrible and scummy (on page 109), but it seems apparent to me that Dr.H has already roleclaimed and proven (sorta, not 100% sure) that he is what he is. Also, Pandain has no evidence of being pro-town besides his extreme insistence of lynching the mayor. 3. He parrotted divinek (mafia) ---- Basically quoted from Dr.H Basically, I think Pandain is mafia because of his insistence on assaulting Dr.H, but lacks comprehensive evidence that he is pro-town. Pandain mentioned that he would have enough evidence to come forth on day 2 or day 3. Isn't that a blatantly obvious stall for time? If he is DT or ANYTHING he should be able to prove himself HERE and NOW, rather than need several days to compile evidence of his non-guilt. He basically took all the arguments about undefined role against him, and "postponed" them so that he could instead hound Dr.H on what HIS role is. I'd prefer if someone proved me wrong, but this is what I managed to conclude after reading for like 20-30 minutes of the forum. I may add more later. | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:02 infinitestory wrote: if we vote on double lynch today, we lynch two people during the next day cycle, not this one that's my understanding Oh for realz? FML Pandain tomorrow then! | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:08 CubEdIn wrote: Can we have a 100% straight-forward confirmation from Lunar that he got the PM of being poked? Though this doesn't really clear either of them. They can both be mafia and just making stuff up. My guess. he just did it. | ||
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If so, wtf | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:18 Nemesis wrote: Oops it seems that my post didn't go through Should we use double lynch next day phase then? I think we should. We already have a prime candidate (pandain), and could probably use the extra lynch so that we can discuss more candidates and move forward more quickly as town, rather than waiting on lynch results. | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:22 Glasse wrote: Well here's how i see it : If we use double lynch every days from now on we will use it on day 4-5-6. Game could be over by then, or very close to it. Taking the chance of lynching 2 suspicious players can harm the town, but it can also be very helpful. < this is why we have to vote. I personally think using all our tools is a good idea. I totally agree with this. Hits the nail right on the head. | ||
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but with all seriousness, how do I know which page is which O.o | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:41 kitaman27 wrote: lol whoops I missed that, I'll do 6 then. The page is based on the link DrH posted. There are like 100 posts per page OH i get it now | ||
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What I CAN conclude is that youngminii was at odds with pandain. He noticed the Dr.H - pandain feud, and attacked pandain ( and Dr.H, but to a lesser extent). Dinner time, bbl. | ||
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Why hasnt Dr.H? And why are you the FIRST PERSON in the game to claim this? Also, at least giving details on the CONDITIONS that need to be achieved so you can confirm your role would be nice, instead of this vague stuff we keep getting. | ||
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its been answered a few times in the forum; If I Recall Correctly | ||
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On November 04 2010 10:34 Coagulation wrote: think about the name that came back "mafia retard" dont waste your lynch on me. At least give an indication of what your power is; It is completely necessary right now since DT found you red. I mean srsly? "Mafia retard" is a looong stretch from "Extremely powerful blue townie who decided to risk being miller in exchange for his power" | ||
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On November 04 2010 10:32 Pandain wrote: 1.He was saying this before you had failed to poke someone, I only questioned you after failed to confirm yourself. Actually, in fact, he would be pro towards you, since he would defend the fact you had been unable to confirm. I was questioning the fact whether you could do this at all, Divinek was opposing you because he felt your role might not be actually useful in those scenarios. You didn't even address one thing. Not one thing. And honestly, I spent time into those. I don't like people saying its crud. Honestly I'm a bit confused about what you're saying here. Can you clarify? Basically, I'm bothered that you are claiming to have an "unconfirmable role" when noone else in the game has done this for an extended period of time. Dr. H said this in the beginning (well, maybe), but nonetheless, we have a solid basis of what his role is. Considering that you were being extremely anal over how Dr.H was not confirming his role, I find your stalling extremely scum-like. Anyone is able to say that they have an unconfirmable role. What I am asking for is the details of the conditions you require to confirm your role. You said earlier that you had a way to confirm your role, but it has not occured yet. It would probably be best for town if we knew what this was, so we could confirm you as whoever you are. There isn't a reason to hold this back; The simple details of WHAT YOU NEED TO CONFIRM YOUR ROLE is not enough to paint a target on you; I would say people like the ADD DT, Dr.H, etc are prime targets for a hit. | ||
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Having two ALIGNMENT DTs in a game doesnt make sense. For example, in haunted mafia(which i failed epically and will make up for), there were 2 dts for 60 people. Now, considering that we have ~ 30-40 people, I find it Extremely unlikely that town has TWO RANDOM ALIGNMENT CHECKERS. For all we know, you could be scum; you never claimed alignment (But you'll obviously claim town). And for all we know you could be lying about your role, your role actions, or anything you want. | ||
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On November 04 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote: First of all I still don't see how if I find mafia that doesn't confirm me. Now obviously at most I could do if mafia would be to claim a townie was mafia, and then they get lynched. But then next day, I get lynched. That is definitely not beneficial for mafia. @KtheZ, we're actually different roles, his is in fact even better than mine :/ The main purpose of a DT check is to check ALIGNMENT. Other tidbits are just useful to know. Having two ALIGNMENT DTs in a game doesnt make sense. For example, in haunted mafia(which i failed epically and will make up for), there were 2 dts for 60 people. Now, considering that we have ~ 30-40 people, I find it Extremely unlikely that town has TWO RANDOM ALIGNMENT CHECKERS. For all we know, you could be scum; you never claimed alignment (But you'll obviously claim town). And for all we know you could be lying about your role, your role actions, or anything you want. EBWODP | ||
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On November 04 2010 10:56 infinitestory wrote: Wait, what the fuck? Doctor & Plague Doctor literally overlap yet PD is *slightly* better >___> take into consideration that in your case, the mafia had a PD. And pandain is most likely lying about his role/role action | ||
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On November 04 2010 10:59 Pandain wrote: If I die, FoS on KtheZ for pushing me so hard with illogical reasons. At least Dr. H has had decent ones.... :O What illogical reasons? I simply ask why it took you so long to roleclaim and why your roleclaim clearly overlaps with a previously claimed role. and what does FoS mean :/ | ||
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On November 04 2010 11:02 Pandain wrote: Because roleclaiming was plainly idiotic. It's not like I'm going to claim "Hey mafia, I have a role where I can find out people's alignments!" Also infinite has a good point with the doctor/plague doctor(town does have both fyi) FoS=finger of suspicion. Note that mafia also had their own plague doctor, so there may be role-checkers for the mafia also. So the standings right now is that you claim to be Garbage collector, and your results have turned up OBVIOUSLY unconfirmable results (who in their right mind would say "I'm not safe omg") | ||
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On November 04 2010 11:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote: mafia doesnt need an alignment checker since mafia know everybodies alignment I noticed, which is why I think hes lying about his role/role action | ||
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On November 04 2010 11:10 Pandain wrote: So you think i'm mafia, because I claimed a role which you think mafia wouldn't have. Circular reasoning ftw. Not necessarily. Let me correct myself. I think you have a chance of being mafia because you claim an undoubtedly pro-town role, but we are still unable to confirm it in any way. However, I am getting second thoughts, congrats. | ||
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On November 04 2010 12:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm not impressed with your "scumhunting" in this game, you're basically picking the weakest targets. I feel like if mafia were going to hit any experienced player it would be you first and you didn't roleclaim to bumatlarge even though he was probably the surest blue in the game and the only one you could PM with (to our knowledge) If you're mafia you'd also be the ideal person to save with a bus. It comes down to the lynch turnout but if pandain turns blue I don't have a better target besides perhaps infinitestory. If you give him such an explanation, give me one too! | ||
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On November 04 2010 12:19 LunarDestiny wrote: edit!!! instant mod kill... I wish. That sure would simplify things greatly. | ||
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On November 04 2010 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: you came out of intense lurking only to press pandain the hardest, if he turns up blue I think that makes you the most suspicious I came out of lurking because everyone was going apeshit over how I was a lurk-voter, and I noticed my extremely shitty performance in Haunted and felt I should ramp up my posting. I'm only pressing pandain because I feel that he is most likely to be mafia, and that we can cover the most ground if I press him HARD. | ||
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On November 04 2010 12:58 Pandain wrote: If you guys DT check me does that give me enough credibility to at least live to get another day's worth of info? Or is the threat of a possible godfather too great to risk coag's stance towards me. I honestly can't explain coag, my only explanation is he's bussing everyone but that's evidently not the case :/ How do we DT check you if we're not even sure if there is a DT that can target people? And how will he NOT reveal himself? There isnt (or i dont think) another circle with a confirmed DT that can do this, and if he does, well, mafia just got a prime rib course in their target buffet. | ||
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On November 06 2010 07:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: it could be a bus that doesn't confirm you at all hohoho Bus? sorry im new but whats does a "bus" do? | ||
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On November 06 2010 09:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote: no conclusions can be drawn from that vote it could be a bus it could be to make pandain look more suspicious it could be to make everyone switch off coag it could be anything The vote was made RIGHT before the original vote cutoff time. Since the votes at that period were like 13-13 even, the mafia tried to kill coag. Since they did this so late, and not PREEMPTIVELY (like 30 mins before), it is reasonable to conclude that the intention was not to frame pandain. I don't think it is a "bus", because it does not decriminalize any other mafia. Since the vote was made extremely late, I dont think it was to make everyone switch of coag. I think it was to make sure coag died, rather than pandain. There would be no reason for an unknown mafia to knock out coag over pandain, except if pandain was a valuable asset to the mafia cause. | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote: or to cause confusion that vote just makes people want to vote for pandain more anyway There was no time to vote after that vote, it was intended to be the final vote before the lynch was made. Also, I started posting so frequently and adding my thoughts because I almost got modkilled for inactivity. I felt that I should include my own analysis, and thus I started posting around day 2-3. How does my advocating lynching pandain incriminate me? He posted in a scummy manner. You yourself even said he should get some "reward" for being a terrible blue player if he flips blue. You were agreeing with me that pandain should be lynched. Then, you change your vote to coag at the last second and drop this bombshell on me? Why did you have such a sudden change of heart? I'm not claiming you're mafia; I highly doubt that, but accusing me on that evidence is relatively unreasonable. | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: because i think you faked your role and your posts still seem scummy to me let me read through your posts first geez That is my EXACT reasoning against pandain, repeated by you. | ||
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I am the detective. However, I suspect that I am an "insane detective". The reasons and my finding will be below. On night 1, I forgot to investigate anyone, being the lurker dumbass I was. On night 2, I investigated Pandain. I found him to be the MAFIA Garbage collector. On night 3, I investigated infinitestory, and found him to be the MAFIA ADD detective. Now, what the hell? Why would the mafia have an ADD Detective? This has led me to conclude that I am insane. Now, assuming I'm an insane detective, it is apparent that Pandain and infinitestory are town-aligned. I am no longer into lynching pandain; I had found him to be mafia, which is why i was so ardent in pursuing his lynch. I feel that infinitestory's results are now trustworthy, and that pandain did not lie about his role. If you think I am lying, look at my posts against pandain. I was so one-mindedly pursuing pandain because I thought he was mafia. However, this night has confirmed my sad suspicion that I am "insane". | ||
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On November 07 2010 08:25 kitaman27 wrote: Mind giving the name of your role and a better description of how it works? Is it straight up detective or is there more to it? I was only told my role name to be the Detective. Blah blah you can pm me to find someone's role. !!!Your head hurts for some reason!!! | ||
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On November 07 2010 08:34 LunarDestiny wrote: Mafia Trash Collector... Pandain said trash collector gives him the ability to tell alignment. Mafia knows the alignment already... Then you say infinitestory is also mafia... Not saying you are lying but it does not make sense. Read the rest of the post. | ||
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On November 07 2010 08:46 kitaman27 wrote: Only if we assume KtheZ is telling the truth. Him and Pandain have been pretty pretty close so far so they are likely the same alignment. Claiming an insane role by referencing one of our only likely confirmed blues, infinitestory, would be really easy to pull off. Could you explain how I have been in any way close to pandain? | ||
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On November 07 2010 08:53 kitaman27 wrote: You being insane is the only thing that makes sense. I have a question. Why check infinitestory when he has already claimed and proven his role? That doesn't add up.[/QUOTE] I was trying to test my insanity, as well as confirm a useful blue to us. | ||
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On November 07 2010 13:16 Pandain wrote: Veldril is safe. Btw, KtheZ, you checked me and got Garbage collector, correct? Yes, I can confirm you are a garbage collector. Alignment still unsure, but MOST probably town. | ||
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On November 08 2010 03:30 infinitestory wrote: pandain says he's trash collector, kthez says he got pandain as mafia garbage collector Ok ok, pandain is the TRASH collector; I didnt bother to check the investigation pm to MAKE sure what i was typing was correct. Garbarge collector and trash collector are basically the same thing; I mixed them up. Sorry about the mistake. | ||
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? Im first saying that I am perfectly fine with proving I am what I claim. Second, I'm saying that I may prove what I am through death, and that that is not a good option. Third, I'm commenting on how few medics we have left. | ||
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On November 08 2010 11:24 Nemesis wrote: Just note KtheZ lied about his roleclaim, look at my previous post So, here are my conclusions from my previous post 1. KtheZ lied 2. He either wanted to confirm Pandain or infinitestory to the town Has it occured to you that I found pandain to be mafia and thought he was mafia? Since I was so adamant in lynching him, why would I reveal evidence AGAINST myself? I was quite sure he was mafia due to my check, and I thought he lied about what his ROLE COULD DO. | ||
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Proves my point above even further. EBWODP | ||
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On November 08 2010 12:16 Nemesis wrote: Except you included that part which means you didn't know the name of his role at all. And you even got the name of his role wrong when you roleclaimed :/ And how convenient is it that the other person you checked was InfiniteStory, another person who has already roleclaimed? I was trying not to show myself as a detective, since I felt that at that point it was not wise to roleclaim. Plus, I mixed up the words GARBAGE and TRASH. It really is not a notable detail for you to nitpick about. I have good reason to check infinitestory. Since I suspected myself to be insane, checking him was the reasonable thing to do. Since he had claimed ADD Detective, I could either: A. Find him lying about his role (and find him town, which would confirm my suspicion of insanity) or B. Find him telling the truth about his role (and find him mafia, which doesnt make sense and also confirms my insanity) or C. Find him lying about his role (and find him mafia, which I really doubted would happen if he actually was town) The benefit of this is also that we can confirm infinitestory's checks upon other people. I have had very few (if none at all) scum-like actions this game. The entire pandain ordeal, I always qualified my analysis with the statement that his ROLE ACTION may be a lie, which noone else at the time had ever stated or taken into consideration. | ||
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On November 08 2010 12:42 Nemesis wrote: I don't buy your "suspecting yourself" argument here. If you actually suspected yourself, you would have considered the possibility that Pandain was telling the truth, yet you kept insisting that Pandain was lying about his role. And yes, if you actually had a pm telling you that his role is TRASH COLLECTOR, it would be something that you would not ever mistake as you would actually check your pm's about what your rolecheck would return before posting your roleclaim. as compared to reading about Pandain's role once when he roleclaimed. I'm still trying to connect how this relates to the town's current situation though, so I'll just check what else I can find out from previous posts. My role PM included a detail about my "head hurting for some reason" so obviously I knew something was up, I just didnt know what. However, I suspected insanity. | ||
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double lynch tmrw FTW | ||
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On November 08 2010 13:10 youngminii wrote: This is the biggest shitfest right now. I'm voting for kitaman for obvious reasons, AS YOU SHOULD BE TOO, and I'll be voting for KtheZ for also screwing up a few times and his post right above me (voting off Hyperbola, Nemesis and double lynch, if this doesn't scream mafia I don't know what does). I repeat: Kitaman and KtheZ. Care to explain? I'm only voting nemesis because i'm sure he wont die and I want to toss the vote. Whats wrong with a double lynch? We have only a few days left and I think a double lynch is in our best interests, considering that we have many investigative roles and few doctors left. | ||
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Right now, I am not convinced anyone is truely mafia right now, so I am extremely wary of putting my vote in this decisive battle. For all I know there could be a mafia bandwagon going on. However, thanks to your explanation, I will now revise my votes. | ||
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On November 08 2010 13:10 youngminii wrote: This is the biggest shitfest right now. I'm voting for kitaman for obvious reasons, AS YOU SHOULD BE TOO, and I'll be voting for KtheZ for also screwing up a few times and his post right above me (voting off Hyperbola, Nemesis and double lynch, if this doesn't scream mafia I don't know what does). I repeat: Kitaman and KtheZ. Also, I'm still fishing around for someone to vote for, so youngminii could you elaborate as to why kitaman is "obvious"? | ||
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On November 08 2010 14:18 infinitestory wrote: did you miss the several pages long discussion on kitaman's watcher/tracker/whatever role name incongruency? Oh yeah that was him. I keep forgetting whos who. Silly me. | ||
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On November 08 2010 14:57 Ace wrote: ... We just had a long, long argument about why you can't be a Watcher or Tracker. But you clearly just said you are a detective who discovered Ace is Mafia. If thats the case why even argue about Watcher/Tracker? Your original post says: Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched. You did not say Ace is Mafia. You said Ace was involved in the hit. So you can't be a detective or you would have said plainly you investigated me to be Scum. You can't be a Watcher/Tracker because you don't have a target. If you were a legit Watcher/Tracker we wouldn't be having this conversation. I asked you WHO I'm linked to and you can't tell me. If you are a watcher/tracker then WHAT hit was I involved in last night? Are you really selling that the mod told you "Ace was involved in last night's hit" when there were 5 dead people? Kitaman said in his roleclaim that he is informed of what they do and if they leave their house. You even said yourself that he does not know the name of the target 7.) Watcher - Has tracker abilities, does not get the name of the target I'm not defending him or anything, but I just want to point out your illogical reasoning. It is probably safe to assume you are either: A) A town role infected with murrayitis or B) A mafia role that is able to spread murrayitis. It is also quite reasonable to conclude that: A)You helped mafia perform a hit or B)Your role was a town-aligned role that somehow ties into a mafia hit. Could you give an example of how a townie can be involved in a mafia hit? I'm just throwing out my ideas. | ||
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I am not very learned in the way of voting. We have a double lynch on our hands, so I decided to vote for someone I feel lurking, and I have another vote I just throw around. I'm not really sure if anyone is mafia, but that vote will be one that I really have no clue about, and will just throw around. I don't understand why people are/want others to be voting me. I have answered all questions regarding my role and my roleclaim, yet people still cite these same arguements against me, like "oh he might be lying" which I have addressed already. The only thing I have not been very wise in is my vote this day. Just because I voted stupidly does not mean you should disregard everything i've said this forum and label me mafia. | ||
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On November 09 2010 07:09 Pandain wrote: I have voted KtheZ. In addition so I can stay alive(one of the main reasons) I have reason to doubt he's actually clean. For one, he got my role wrong(I had even given him a chance to correct himself, but he failed again) Also, he has played somewhat scummily(voting nemesis just because he noted out flaws, despite the fact he knows im blue, and I checked nemesis to be safe. so wtf there.) Finally, the contradictions pointed out by nemesis are evident. Why would you vote me? I'm the person who confirmed your role! I DID correct myself, idk what you're saying. I stopped voting nemesis, instead moving my vote to kitaman. Also, to respond to a large portion of your analysis of me: I did not want to confirm your role, because, as I have stated before, I did not want to roleclaim. Does it really matter to me a LOT what your role name is, when I checked you and found you to be mafia? I was convinced that you were mafia, and that you were lying about WHAT your role could do (Note that I knew you didnt lie about your role). A lot of what you pointed out in your analysis was me trying to NOT indicate obvious detective-ness, such as my I'd prefer if someone proved me wrong, but this is what I managed to conclude after reading for like 20-30 minutes of the forum.. I'm obviously making sure mafia doesn't suspect I'm a detective. it would be bad if I caught the attention of the mafia and got hit, wouldn't it? Again, you just confirmed my role. So how is it unconfirmable. Credits to nemesis for first poniting this out. also trying to fish for my role. Well, I was convinced your ROLE ACTION WAS NOT WHAT YOU CLAIMED. Notice that I keep asking for your ROLE ACTION. + Show Spoiler + On November 04 2010 10:48 KtheZ wrote: Since we have a claimed ADD detective, I find it HIGHLY unlikely there is ANOTHER TOWN ALIGNED RANDOM DETECTIVE. Um.... haven't you realized your insane yet. No I have not realized I am insane; that was on the same day. | ||
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The simple response to almsot everything you say here is: I say your role is unconfirmable because THAT QUALIFIER IS NECESSARY for me so I can pretend I DO NOT HAVE A DT ROLE. If I went up and said your role action is unconfirmed, but your role is confirmed, doesnt that absolutely SCREAM that I am a DT? | ||
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On November 09 2010 08:21 Pandain wrote: So you lied? You don't have to say the role is unconfirmable, just give reasons why you think I'm mafia. claiming its unconfirmable is just...anti town. There is no other way for me to pretend im not DT besides saying that. | ||
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On November 09 2010 08:44 Pandain wrote: Yeah wth is this? It's not even the deciding stone.... @amber, so its all because of information? Again, I don't think lynching AN ALIGNMENT COP because of info is good, especially when i can grant even more. Why the hell would you lynch a potential Alignment AND Role cop then? | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
I'm referring to myself as a potential because you guys arent sure of what I am, which is obviously why you're voting for me. Fine how bout this: Why the hell would you lynch an Alignment AND Role cop then? | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 09 2010 08:54 Pandain wrote: Wth... Glasse please give reasons why at least. Because your scum, have made many slip ups, and contradictions? I am not scum, And thus I have not slipped up. I have only made like 1 or 2 contradictions. Otherwise I have explained myself very clearly. watch mafia ninja the vote onto me. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 09 2010 08:58 Pandain wrote: see now you admit you even made contradictions! Of course they contradict now, I made those contradictions when I was pretending to NOT be DT. | ||
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