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On October 30 2010 09:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote: My role has two basic abilities: -to confirm itself to another player at night. basically I can send a signal to another player once per night that confirms I am the role I say I am. -to assist in stopping the spread of the plague. i will use this role to reliably coordinate the night actions of plague doctors and the results will show in the murrayitis counts. Both of these actions can be proven, they have results that cannot be faked. Secondly, (more like the hundred time I've said this and people don't listen) So whats the name of your role, i'm curious | ||
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On October 30 2010 11:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Does it matter? It seems strange that you would want to know. I guess it would do no harm to tell, it wouldn't reveal the exact nature of my powers, which I won't go into extreme detail on just yet. I'm not sure I should say. Maybe there is a role that knows all the roles in the game? And you're trying to confirm I am who I say I am? Maybe this is some kinda weird mafia fishing attempt? I'll think about it. Sounds more like you just made shit up and can't think of a name that fits the description you gave. | ||
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On October 30 2010 11:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I am mafia There, he said it! (for serious now) + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2010 11:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I can understand why people maybe don't want me to be mayor over fishball but trying to paint me as scum is ludicrous. Let's say I am mafia. I am faking a role in which I confirm my role to another player each night. To fake this I must get another mafia to pretend that I did this each day, who would probably be DT checked immediately throwing me under suspicion. I don't want to say exactly how my second ability works but I can reliably show my powers in helping to stop the spread of the plague. Faking this would be much quicker. It would be incredibly easy to catch me in this lie and since the results of my actions are reflected in the murrayitis numbers and the success of plague doctors, it isn't really something I can pull off. I am offering myself for lynch if the information I'm giving is found to be unreliable. So as mafia here, I'm sacrificing myself. my scumbuddies, and making claims that I cannot fulfill. An utterly retarded thing to do. Not to mention the fact that being mayor barely benefits mafia in this case. The only real benefit is immunity to vig hits and the second vote. In a normal mafia game, the mayor has 3 extra votes, complete immunity from night actions. A DT can check the mayor for godssake. So for me to pull this off all of the following are true: I am mafia I am godfather I can get the mafia to pretend I am confirming to them without ever being caught I can fake a role that involves stopping the spread of murrayitis which isn't a possibility. Consider all of that for the benefit a mafia player would be going for: extra vote immunity to vigs and also weight the con a mafia has from being mayor: guaranteed DT visit immense pressure/scrutiny from town it really is nonsensical, added to the fact that I can prove my role is what I say it is after the night, there is really nothing here to paint me as scum. If it's made up bullshit, and thats what you believe, then I'm handing you my life and the lives of my scumbuddies on a plate. All those things are very valid points. It looks like you have the whole thing planned if you win. | ||
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I'll be voting for myself until someone proves me they deserve my vote. What i've seen is not enough atm and I don't want to be modkilled for not voting lol | ||
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On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote: so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3 I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me! | ||
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You heard it, even god would not be able to kill me! | ||
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On October 30 2010 12:26 Fishball wrote: Wrong quote ;/ Meant to quote NB. Good, i was like wat? + Show Spoiler + On October 30 2010 12:25 NB wrote: are you implying the fact that you are a mafia so you can only be killed by lynching and if you become mayor you cant be lynched? @DrH: where is the love bro <3 .... no im joking, what can i do to make you trust me? :-j (this feels exactly like last game.....) Uh not really, didn't really think about that. Just trying to be a good politician and say as much bullshit as i can to get more votes :3 I must say though, i am the voice god, that is why he wouldnt be able to kill me. You can't kill a voice, only mute! + Show Spoiler + You heard the man! I promise that i will take every single gun shot from my town ppls! I can't die anyway! Glasse 2010! | ||
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On October 30 2010 12:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote: if glasse is invincible he shouldn't be mayor, it's a waste of the bodyguard mechanic What if i take all the hits for my bodyguards? That makes many ppl invincible as well! On October 30 2010 12:31 annul wrote: god may not be able to kill you but the mods can! We'll see about that! Vote Glasse! Insane mayor 2010! | ||
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On October 30 2010 12:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote: My understanding of the bodyguard is that if the mayor is hit, the bodyguard doesn't die, but that the bodyguard must be killed before the mayor can What if i am invincible due to bodyguards? DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I could also be an invincible body guard, who protect his own bodyguards. Think about it, its so insane it could be true! Glasse for mayor! | ||
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I'll just stop saying random nonsense | ||
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On October 30 2010 13:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: ok would you like to back that statement up or are you just going to keep saying meaningless nonsense All you said did not prove anything. There is nothing to believe. You could of easily made everything up. Also your role does not make any sense, those 2 different actions you can do are not linked together at all, and the name sticky doesn't sound right for it either. I guess i can't really back it up but all the nonsense i said earlier meant as much as everything you said about why you should be mayor. | ||
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On October 30 2010 13:26 orgolove wrote: Kingjames raises a lot of valid points. DrH, you're avoiding his answers and just focusing on Glasse, who's obviously an idiot. What is your response to KingJames' comments? I didn't insult you, why would you insult me? Acting and being are 2 different things... | ||
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On October 30 2010 13:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote: So for me to pull this off all of the following are true: I am mafia I am godfather I can get the mafia to pretend I am confirming to them without ever being caught I can fake a role that involves stopping the spread of murrayitis which isn't a possibility. What tell us there is not a role that involves stopping the spread as red? | ||
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On October 30 2010 15:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote: the only other alternative I see is that the disease is dropped on somebody through an RNG by artanis i doubt that is the case because that could put the town in a lot of trouble without mafia doing anything about it. | ||
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On October 31 2010 01:52 ghrur wrote: Why do I feel ignored? T_T it's ok, nobody is paying attention to my ability to roleclaim and prove that i'm town if im mayor either | ||
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On October 31 2010 02:01 ghrur wrote: As much as I appreciate this, I really think I shouldn't be. I mean, I threw my name in because I feel like I'm able to keep my calm, but now that I look over it, I'm not active enough. I also really gain nothing from bodyguards as I can do this as a townie. Also, I feel that my role isn't strong enough. Instead, I really want to hear Glasse's platform once again. Lol i don't really want to be mayor i just like having fun :D Its my second mafia game, i can't be as active as others. However i can prove that i'm town easily. All depends if you want the possibility of a mafia mayor or not :O | ||
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On October 31 2010 02:19 ghrur wrote: I think we would all like to eliminate the possibility of a mafia mayor. We just want to know who has the best "way" to prove it with as little reasonable loop holes as possible. And thanks Kita, lol. xD well i'm fairly sure i have the best way. i could prove it on day 2 :S | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + 1. DoctorHelvetica 2. Hyperbola 3. Bumatlarge 4. Veldril 5. Pandain 6. Aeres 7. deconduo 8. Coagulation 9. annul 10. infundibulum 11. Amber[LighT] 12. Kenpachi 13. lol1221 14. Nemesis 15. ghrur 16. KtheZ 17. QuickStriker 18. CubEdIn 19. Meapak_Ziphh 20. SiNiquity 21. DCLXVI 22. Divinek 23. Lexpar 24. ShmotZ 25. Orgolove 26. Node 27. youngminii 28. jcarlsoniv 29. BrownBear 30. Infinitestory 31. Masq 32. NB 33. Glasse 34 Misder 35. kingjames01 36. Ace 37. Fishball 38. kitaman27 39. LunarDestiny | ||
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On October 31 2010 05:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote: your posting is funny and cute but honestly at this point you are shitting up the thread. I'm requesting that you please stop, no one wants to wade through a bunch of your spam and god forbid someone take your current nonsense seriously. So I can't play this game how i want to play it anymore? Not everyone's post need to 10 page long analysis on random posts. I don't feel the need to post my analysis out in the open and give reds time to react and make up more shit. If something really important comes up you'll know. Also, hopefully someone takes my nonsense seriously, i am serious cat and this is a serious election. Glasse 2010 On October 31 2010 05:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I no longer feel youngminii is the scummiest. In fact I would like to hear from every townie who their #1 suspect is of scum, if they have one at all. I would like to hear other peoples opinions. There has been a lot of campaign shitflinging and very little scumhunting of any sort. I don't think the mafia feel very pressured right now. You are my #1 scum suspect. | ||
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On October 31 2010 06:08 infinitestory wrote: TBH I'm more interested in pressuring them into talking than actually pointing FoS at them. not the smartest thing to say imo :3 | ||
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On October 31 2010 06:14 infinitestory wrote: In Mafia XXXI, we had a huge number of people either: 1) posting but without real content 2) posting hardly at all which hindered proper analysis. Like jcarlsoniv said, we need to keep a much better eye on lurkers. I'm not sure why you think that's not smart. also, 1) posting but without real content this is a hint .... ok i'll stop posting. i'll post whenever i die to say bai. just answering this though: so saying that you want to pressure em into posting is smart? just saying what he said before that sentence was enough, this just meant "hey, please post now, i'll read your post 100 times to see if i can find information in it" | ||
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On October 31 2010 06:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote: versus letting them lurk and having mafia slip through the cracks of inactivity, yes it is smart. a mafia under no pressure can sit back and watch town kill eachother, it's ideal. wtf is wrong with you, i facepalmed saying the part of your plan that should stay in your head out in the open is stupid fuck sorry couldn't hold it | ||
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On October 31 2010 06:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote: My only defense is that the last time I was a scum mayor I specifically ordered the mafia to create a "close win" and have me win by 1 or 2 votes. Doubtlessly there are mafia in this bandwagon though. What are you talking about? Why is it bad to pressure/force inactives to post? Why would we want people to just stay inactive and get away with it when mafia can just hide amongsts them and never get pressured... Its not! but the "TBH I'm more interested in pressuring them into talking than actually pointing FoS at them." was not needed and may have fucked up his plan. Just suspecting them and saying it was because they were lurking and stuff was enough to make em talk. | ||
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On October 31 2010 06:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Glasse you are playing this game extremely different than Haunted Mafia in which you are a town aligned blue role. In that game you were very helpful and honest about what you were doing. Now you are antagonistic, refuse to explain anything about what you say, and have taken the mind boggling position that town shouldn't pressure inactives. What is up with that? It was my first game, i can't try something different? I was planning on being the same but that's no fun for me :3. Unfortunately it looks like you are going to win the election... which could mean that if you think i'm red you will lynch me(I think thats how it works). This is also not fun. I think playing the random/stupid/troll player is fun. Btw, changing the way I play is a way to make you and others unable to analyse my playstyle like you are trying to do right now. I'm pretty sure through my whole "shitting the thread up" part i've been honest, probably not as helpful though, but not having clues is part of that, if you go read my posts back there its mostly about clues I loved to analyse profiles and stuff. Also i did not say town should not pressure inactive, you just don't get what i'm trying to explain :3 | ||
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On October 31 2010 06:43 infinitestory wrote: fuck i assumed it meant that one person in the list gets an extra vote, which is listed as "Elder" I was reading a bunch of roles on mafiascum wiki and i saw something interesting. The "elder" could be only able to vote on 1 target, but give 2 votes. which means one of the voters has 2 votes. Now look at the first vote count where elder wasnt and the vote count where vote is. Now this could have been a PM he held off until now but it could also be someone that was just added and counted as 2 People added to his list that could have 2 votes : SiNiquity Meapak_Ziphh Veldril CubEdIn Amber[LighT] Kenpachi | ||
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On October 31 2010 07:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Artanis told me he would like my top 3 candidates rather than my 1st. There are situations in which my top candidate may not be lynched and he would have to default to second choice. I think this would be information I should share with the town. so a role that can't be lynched hmm... if this is true then there is probably a tree stump as well, who can't die or vote after he roleclaims | ||
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On October 31 2010 07:10 jcarlsoniv wrote: This is interesting. It's sort of like a mini-Mayor without the protection, and with some privacy? Would the two votes have to be for the same person? Or could it possibly be someone who voted elsewhere, but then secretly voted for Dr.H so people don't know that's where he really wants his vote? I wonder what other applications it has, it sounds like it's just useful for helping rig elections. Additionally, do you think it's coupled with another power, or a standalone role? I think having 2 votes is a big power and probably don't have another action. They could, however, be able to vote for someone else for their second vote. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + PMs: PMs are not allowed this game unless you are PMing me or LSB, have explicit approval to PM or you are mafia, and then you may only PM your fellow mafia. I think PMs are too OP for town, so most things will happen in the thread this game. Always send in your PM actions to both LSB and myself or they might not be used. | ||
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On October 31 2010 11:17 kitaman27 wrote: Apparently fish, orglove and 4 other people are members of a neutral circle. But how did you get through 50 pages without hearing about that? :p i only read quickly through the first 25 pages since i joined late, probably missed it | ||
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On October 31 2010 11:33 Nemesis wrote: Do bodyguards protect the mayor from ALL hit or one hit each from what i understood the mayor can't be hit at all until mafia finds and kill the bodyguard | ||
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On October 31 2010 12:24 Qatol wrote: This is not quite correct. If the bodyguard takes a hit (and dies) the same night as the mayor takes a hit, both will die (assuming the mayor doesn't survive because of a medic protection/veteran extra life/ etc). well what i said is still true though, if the bodyguard is dead obviously the mayor can die | ||
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On October 31 2010 22:32 Ace wrote: I don't know I'm not the mod and imo speculating on it is a waste of time. It was most likely a moderator decision and if anyone really feels he can't be lynched then go ahead and vote for him on Day 2 and find out. It could also be that the lynch will always be rng between top 3 highest votes | ||
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On November 01 2010 01:51 Hyperbola wrote: Ok so these are the aspects of his role (if he's telling the truth): 1. avoid a lynch 2. no talking So I'm thinking his role is the ability to leave town, turn invisible, or hide in the closet for a night. I don't know why he wouldn't role claim but, more importantly, this doesn't seem like a scum-favored role. Think about it: why would scum leave town? Is the mob getting too hot for him? This would seem almost detrimental because if someone has a valid case against him, he can't argue it and just delays the inevitable 1 turn. I think the role is intended to just dodge night actions and simply dodges lynches and forbids speaking as a side effect. So in short, I think youngminii is innocent to some extent... for now. Something that is to be considered is that in the role list i was reading (to have ideas of what kind of roles could happen here) there was a role that could hide in his office if he felt threatened. He could not do it twice in a row but he could hide every other days/nights. Now he might not want to say anything because he wouldnt be able to hide again. :3 | ||
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On November 01 2010 04:22 youngminii wrote: Translation: Aeres is scum and he's making up the role. By answering this question, I would be confirming the existence of the fake role and as such, I can't give a real answer. Maybe. You got it wrong. Translation : This is a question too hypothetical to answer as it would require me to confirm or deny roles and give too much information away. He meant what he typed. | ||
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On November 01 2010 04:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Funbit of info: His name is actually 666 in roman numericals. I'm pretty sure DCLXVI would be 666, DCXLVI is 646 ^^ | ||
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On November 01 2010 04:56 Glasse wrote: I'm pretty sure DCLXVI would be 666, DCXLVI is 646 ^^ i went back and looked at his name in the name list and you said it wrong, his name is indeed 666 :3 way to make mistakes! | ||
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On November 01 2010 05:06 CubEdIn wrote: Yes, but his name is indeed DCLXVI. If you find it hard to remember, it's just the first 6 roman numerals in reverse order (I, V, X, L, C, D). It just happens to be 666 if "spelled backwards", it stirred that is quite amazing! meow | ||
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On November 01 2010 06:02 Coagulation wrote: concerning bodyguards 1. there are 2 bodyguards and mods lied to us (mods lie to us then thats bullshit) 2. there is 1 bodyguard and one of them lied. i dont think that would necessarily be scummy considering it can take heat off the real bodyguard and confuse mafia and keep the real bodyguard safe. lets not do anymore roleclaims guys. we are handing so much info to the reds its not good at all. if you got a role that needs to be revealed think on it for a day or two first. is it bullshit, or is it insane? :3 | ||
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On November 01 2010 06:32 Coagulation wrote: dt needs to investigate pandain for sure considering he was running for mayor. also the other people who wanted elected mayor bumatlarge fishball annul ghrur glasse node also worth keeping an eye on node who is asking for people to invite him into circle. but but but i am a nice person :3 bad ppl dont love cats | ||
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On November 01 2010 07:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Wouldn't they have the same role? | ||
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sorry i thought it was going to be obvious enough :3 I guess not everybody is into anime | ||
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On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote: This is Radio LOONY! With DrH as mayor we are in a sticky situation. Be careful, he’s red. I wish I was mayor. I am the serious cat. Meow, Meow, :3 RISE AND SHINE YOU IDIOTS. LOL | ||
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Or someone is trying to make ppl think i can do stuff :3 | ||
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On November 01 2010 08:15 Aeres wrote: That was also Glasse who posted the image. Screw the finger, I'm giving you the HoS, Glasse. Wait what does hos mean, am i in danger? DONT BE MEAN I DIDNT DO ANYTHING | ||
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On November 01 2010 08:23 kitaman27 wrote: I think at this point we have no reason to trust the mods. You know something's wrong when that happen | ||
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On November 01 2010 08:26 infinitestory wrote: Glasse, how godly are you? Just curious. Very. I'm also very curious to know why someone would try to point to me in a day post (assuming someone can do that). It could also be that the mod thought i was an amazing cat and wanted to point to me or something :3 | ||
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I guess if the guy that made the message in the post was trying to look like me he could of said it to make everyone think it was me... Why though? I feel like putting a message in the post is not a super power unless he can mess with other things in the whole day post. | ||
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On November 01 2010 08:47 CubEdIn wrote: I think that the town got stripped of way too many things at once (clues, ok, but PMs as welll?, having faith in mods or their own roles?!), and if mafia don't have their own back-firing mechanics, then it's safe to say that the town is pretty much screwed. Maybe this is so insane that if the mafia win they all die and we get to eat them like ice cream because we won. | ||
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Rofl that is amazing. | ||
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On November 01 2010 10:20 Coagulation wrote: im not saying doch is red im not saying that mafia wouldnt have anything to gain by discrediting him if he is a townie im saying he had a campaign of bullshit. i'd like to point out that there is always less than 10% truth in any elections. | ||
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Parts of what i said were true, i could be a god, or a cat, or the most amazing person on earth. | ||
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not sure how it helps though | ||
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A red that thinks hes blue red + blue = purple i'm so fucking awesome sometimes | ||
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On November 01 2010 11:09 infinitestory wrote: Well, judging from the srs color of your srs cat fur, you're white with brown stripes. :O those are the best cats! | ||
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On November 01 2010 11:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I still think he's village idiot This hurts Isnt the village idiot's job to try to get lynched while trying to make sure mafia doesn't get lynched? I'm not trying to do either of those :S I don't want to be lynched or killed. I like playing mafia :D | ||
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On November 01 2010 11:56 infinitestory wrote: And I can confirm that. And i can confirm this! On October 31 2010 Glasse wrote: Meow | ||
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On November 01 2010 12:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'd like to take this opportunity to say that LSB and I will never outright lie about something. If something is false in something I said, there will almost always be hints to it. This is not a game where the town has to battle both the GM and the mafia. so there was only 1 bodyguard... drh is vulnerable then | ||
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On November 01 2010 12:06 Misder wrote: Well, as bumalarge pointed out, Artanis didn't outright say there was only 1 bodygaurd. He said that town could only afford 1 bodygaurd. That doesn't mean that there isn't someone that isn't hired doing the job. Well fuck :3 | ||
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On November 01 2010 19:58 Glasse wrote: I think we should lynch that Glasse guy, he's been acting all funky and making me mad with useless posts. Wow, please don't kill me | ||
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On November 01 2010 20:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i think you're village idiot I think you're mean | ||
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On November 01 2010 20:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote: or perhaps some role that benefits from being lynched in some way earlier in the thread during your "campaign" for mayor you seemed very comfortable with idea of the town lynching you while being very adverse to the possibility that you might be killed at night or perhaps if i get killed at all? | ||
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On November 01 2010 22:24 NB wrote: hxey guys, just woke up ^^ :3 there already votes in the voting thread :O.... very interesting that the elder vote has been used again? Could it be that there is some insight that our DTs has connection with the elder and the vote is 100% correct? :D I'm gonna guess its not related at all. Could be the elder trying to confuse ppl or just make em talk. | ||
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On November 01 2010 22:44 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yes, we have considered this possibility. We have no idea, but Artanis said this: Whether or not this is a Mafia aligned player, we can't know for sure, but in my mind, it makes sense that this would be a scum role. I don't think i'd be dumb enough to point to myself as red with a radio message... It might be a scum role though. Some of you really think i'm an idiot. | ||
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Do YOU read? He quoted my post in "about haunted mafia" thread I'm not denying i used cat references and faces in this thread. :3 | ||
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I know it reminded you of that but quoting other threads is not the best idea. It's like if i saw you raging at terran in sc2 balance thread and quoted it saying it reminded me that you are rage filled and could easily be a serial killer. purr | ||
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On November 01 2010 23:18 Lexpar wrote: Glasse give it a fucking rest. Cats love to rest, I am crazy cat though. | ||
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On November 02 2010 00:33 jcarlsoniv wrote: Hold on, let's consider something for a second. Why would aeres do this? It doesn't really make sense to concede so easily. Dr.H has said he thinks Glasse could be Village Idiot, and is trying to get lynched. What if Aeres has a role like this? He knew he would be caught in the lie, and wants to get lynched. What happens when the village idiot does get lynched? And an even more important question: what implications could this have if this is a mafia role? If village idiot get lynched he, alone, wins the game. I'm not the village idiot Insania isnt even a village. :3 | ||
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:3 Why would you not be able to vote for yourself? I voted for myself because i'm scared of forgetting and i didnt want 30 people analysing me because i voted for someone. meow | ||
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This is confusing purr :3 | ||
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He could be traitor trying to get the mafia to target him to be able to join them in a very weird way. I think Aeres knows what hes doing and i'm not sure i do yet, which i don't like I said it, L is pro detective, hes about to start working :3 <:3)~~ OMG A MOUSE It's going in my accounting class room :O Gonna chase it for 3 hours or so. Bai | ||
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Mr mayor, who should i vote for? :3 | ||
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On November 02 2010 04:07 Glasse wrote: Gonna vote cubedin because he thinks i'm annoying :3 You are such a liar, you voted for youngminii | ||
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i dont :O its gonna be like 50 pages long. Also i voted youngminii because i don't want to vote aeres and he was the only one with votes :O | ||
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On November 02 2010 07:21 Amber[LighT] wrote: mods just temp ban me. they dont take my shit anymore im trying not to post elsewhere until this games over so I don't miss 2 day/night cycles because of [European] mods who can't take jokes lollolol :3 i didnt think mods did anything in the mafia forums | ||
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And i can prove it. | ||
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On November 02 2010 21:08 Coagulation wrote: it was an analysis of his post history. wow thats mean I'll prove im blue with my next night action :3 | ||
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Its not like i can modify anything in the day post I feel like this would have been much more useful if i was able to pm people and make plans to waste mafia kps but nope... Without the ability to pm and with me being town all it can do is confuse town like you said, which is not a good thing :3 | ||
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On November 02 2010 22:37 kitaman27 wrote: Anyone else find this concerning? He doesn't just say the thinks DrH is red, he act's as if he knows it, which he can't be true (unless they are teammates I suppose). Why would a blue role try to stir up confusion like this? I guess the possibility he wants to get himself lynched still remains. because it was entertaining while it wasted (until the mod warned me) | ||
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On November 03 2010 00:22 Lexpar wrote: Christ Glasse. I can't imagine you being more ham-fisted in your handling of your role. You had an awesome role, and and your first day you fuck it up. How? If you wanted to instill fear and suspision, you don't say "DOC H IS RED", you leave a clue that looks like it was put there by an admin. You don't roleclaim on day two for fucks sake. You could have played the radio the entire game, making us all think you were written by the admins. But you didn't. Being the radio jockey dosen't make you blue. It's a perfect role to be assigned to the mafia. You're 10x more suspicious now in my books. And you have hams for fists. Do you not understand that saying anything on there, which would only be my opinion on stuff, instead of just posting it is not different? There's no reason for me to hide shit in the message at all since most it can do is confuse and harm the town, while saying my opinion, which i can say in a post. Mafia obviously knows who mafia is so trying to confuse them is completely useless as i can't even confirm anyone's role to try to make them focus on useless people instead of medics and other important roles. If pms were allowed in this game i would not have sent that first radio message, as i could have used it to announce stuff we found behind the scene in a group. Now i can just say it out loud, since its the only thing i can fucking do. Theres no point to my role in this mafia game since pms are not allowed. Think i'm red if you want, idc, once i get killed or lynched you'll see that i'm blue. I do agree that this role would have been amazing on red though, if used right. | ||
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On November 03 2010 01:50 LSB wrote: *Cough* No personal Attacks *Cough* I haven't been paying attention, but have their been any questions/big bad flames? sorry, just replying to his ham fisted comments. :3 | ||
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On November 03 2010 02:03 CubEdIn wrote: Glasse, if you had the option not to reveal yourself, then you should've gone with it. Why? Because your opinion in an admin post, carefully concealed, would have given it extra weight. It's your choice to disclose, and I'm fine with it, but you would have been in a much stronger position if you had hidden it. Of course, it would depend on how good a player you are. If your ideas were wrong, you would've hurt the town a lot, but if they were on mark, then it would've been that more awesome. Extra weight or not, if i'm wrong, as you said, it could have caused damage. Without clues I feel like its so hard to find if anyone is red or not so i'm pretty sure i wouldn't be on target all the time, which could have killed important roles. | ||
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We are all supposed to have a special role no? picking townie would give him no special role. Yes, he's Neo, but still. I doubt it for some reasons. Can we have a mafia confirm that hes a doctor? ;P | ||
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On November 03 2010 02:28 LunarDestiny wrote: Reading the last few pages after class and I have an epic facepalm. Glasse... you got an awesome role but you just changed yourself to a vanilla townie unless your role got another ability. I won't go too much on it since everyone else probably said enough. This an examples I would have post on the radio. -It seems that a mafia member is feeling bad for the sin he committed. Yea and that shows what? Nothing. It's nothing concrete or 100% sure. You can make town analyse fake clues that you think could point to someone. Unless i had allies in a pm group i can't really do anything more than i can do by being more direct in a post. I'm not trying to confuse town or anything, giving my opinion in a post will do the same thing if i put a good reason behind it. Fake clues = could cause damage If i was red though, i would have used that to my advantage easily. There's also something i didn't say. Part of that message wasnt from me. | ||
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On November 03 2010 02:37 CubEdIn wrote: @ Glasse, you don't understand, posts like that would make the Mafia suspect they can't trust everyone in their team. You could use it to turn mafia against each other, if worded properly, and implying that there's some sort of role that could cause a back-stab kill in the Mafia ranks. Of course, it's a long shot, but it's better than not doing anything at all. And what part WASN'T from you? I guess im stupid then. With DrH as mayor we are in a sticky situation. Be careful, he’s red. What i said was Be careful, DrH is red. Did not mention anything about a sticky situation | ||
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On November 03 2010 03:03 Infundibulum wrote: so what Glasse said and the Day post says differ by a word then. the actual post is : With DrH as mayor we are in a sticky situation. Be careful, he’s red. What i said is : Be careful, DrH is red. Did not mention anything about a sticky situation | ||
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I wish I was mayor. I am the serious cat. Meow, Meow, :3 as well, it was just irrelevant to my point | ||
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On November 03 2010 07:57 bumatlarge wrote: Remember your role is never pointless (GLASSE) there is always some reason the mod put your role in the game that you might not be aware of. I thought about it and didnt see anything useful about it without access to pm. i would not have thought about anything else anyway so it would have been as useless as it is now | ||
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On November 03 2010 08:15 CubEdIn wrote: Yes but the mod stated: "Players in it may no longer PM eachother.", so they could, but it would be against the rules. i think he means posting in codes in the thread | ||
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On November 03 2010 10:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: tell us the name of one of your scumbuddies I feel like you would be in a better situation about answering this question. | ||
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On November 03 2010 10:05 Glasse wrote: I feel like you would be in a better situation about answering this question. EBWOP position* i guess it would make more sense with that word instead :3 | ||
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On November 03 2010 10:10 Coagulation wrote: this is not gonna prove anything. not that i need him to prove his role its obvious anyway but anything he says hes gonna write can be copied by the real person so the point is moot. yea, i could copy myself and stuff. | ||
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On November 03 2010 10:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote: your role kinda loses its purpose when you roleclaim it seems it allows you (assuming you're a townie) to express any thought you feel uncomfortable expressing and having tied to your name as mafia it allows you to cause confusion/mislead town Think about it for a second, i don't know if you really think i'm red but why would i have role claimed and wasted day 2 post if i could have used it to cause chaos against town every days? Doesn't make sense to me. Also, I don't care about having stuff tied to my name, it's not like i'm allowed to write a novel in that message either. May as well just post it in thread. | ||
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And to prove what? It's not like im trying to hide anything behind my role claim :3 | ||
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On November 03 2010 10:22 LunarDestiny wrote: I doubt glasse is mafia. If he is, his fellow members must have stopped him from role claiming. But glasse did role claim. Doesn't make sense for him to be mafia. Also i agree with this, doesn't make sense at all. | ||
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On November 03 2010 10:32 infinitestory wrote: ok, i agree with that i have been seeing posts about Glasse being suspicious, though, and I would like to know where those are coming from. I'm gonna guess it's mostly since i was acting all cat-like early in the game. Being annoying and trying to get attention and stuff. Could also be something else, but i can't really tell :3 | ||
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:3 i told you someone else can do stuff in that message | ||
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On November 04 2010 08:29 infinitestory wrote: 5) hey there Glasse, what did you send for the radio? Also, why is LOONY decapitalized and spelled different? i wrote this : @Glasse : Woa! I have my own twitter now! My scumbuddy is DoctorHelvetica! *wink* *wink* :3 i have a 75ish character limit, can't send more than that *just incase you didnt catch it, the twitter part and the drh part are both jokes that were made in the thread shortly before i decided to send my message. I'm gonna guess the loony thing is a mod error as artanis did not post the day 2 post. | ||
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On November 04 2010 08:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote: if any other detective found a mafia DON'T COME FORWARD UNTIL TOMORROW we only have 1 lynch tonight. if a DT hasn't checked Pandain (i doubt it), it must be done tonight. time to analyse coagulations posts :D can't we have 2? i think we should use those double lynch to our advantage and maybe take care of a suspect + a lurker? | ||
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On November 04 2010 08:56 infinitestory wrote: we vote on double lynch, but it'll be used during the NEXT day cycle oh is that how it works? then i guess we should vote yes so we can use everything we can :S we can always not lynch a second person anyway right? | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:00 KtheZ wrote: I say we double lynch coag and pandain. I say you are a lurker that came out of nowhere and should explain yourself? Not that I disagree, but i'm curious. I know why on coag, but i have not been paying much attention to pandain for a lot of pages | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:02 infinitestory wrote: kthez made a large post about two posts above the one you quoted how the fuck did i manage to miss that? | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:07 L wrote: Given my prior assessment it seems like I was right. Most mafia are just trying to keep under the radar. This is true. I was looking through profiles and players with fewest posts are : veldril, kenpachi, kthez and rebirthoflegend(i think he was subbed in, so that could be why) I'm pretty sure there has to be 1 red in those 4 lurkers On November 04 2010 09:04 KtheZ wrote: Well I just made a post on why pandain, but please, ask me questions rather than tell me to explain myself; I dont really know what "explaining myself" involves saying. sorry i didnt see it , i kind of agree now though. | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm positive Veldril is Town. He brought up lynching Divinek out of the blue. If we lynch an inactive it should be RoL or Kenpachi I'm also really uncomfortable about how few posts infundibulum has THATS THE NAME, i looked earlier and couldn't remember who my 5th was lol well thats infundibulum (wtf kind of name is that ) | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:18 Nemesis wrote: Oops it seems that my post didn't go through Should we use double lynch next day phase then? Well here's how i see it : If we use double lynch every days from now on we will use it on day 4-5-6. Game could be over by then, or very close to it. Taking the chance of lynching 2 suspicious players can harm the town, but it can also be very helpful. < this is why we have to vote. I personally think using all our tools is a good idea. | ||
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On November 04 2010 09:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Alright, here's an assignment. We're gonna analyse all the posts about Pandain to see who else defended him suspiciously. We're all gonna do a certain amount of the posts in this thread. Each person will do a different page. There are 6 pages of Pandain posts. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q="pandain"&t=c&f=31&u=&gb=date I'll take the third page, because I like the number 3 and its around the middle of the game when he is campaigning. Someone call each page, go post by post and post any interesting findings that might lead to other mafia. Now we get aggressive. Line em up and knock em down. ill take page 1! | ||
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Coag had 2 posts where he was trying to make people vote for pandain because he's transparent and can't manipulate people so if he was mafia it would be obvious. Didnt quote the 2 posts, not really important... nothing was super suspicious, to me at least. | ||
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On November 04 2010 11:14 Coagulation wrote: NO I LIED! IM ACTUALLY A SUPER DT AND KNOW EVERYONES ALIGNMENT STOP VOTING ME I CHECKED MYSELF IM NOT MAFIA oh ok then | ||
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I fail to see how my role claim makes me red still... I'll say the same argument i brought up before : why would i waste such an opportunity to cause trouble if i was red? i just don't get it... As for ideas, since the first part of the radio message seems to be related to a role, it could be either be from mod or from whoever else is broadcasting with me. I wish i knew who it was though. This is why i want pms | ||
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On November 04 2010 23:34 CubEdIn wrote: I'm not saying you're red based on your role claim. I'm saying you might be red due to the fact that you haven't (and still aren't) giving us full information about your role and the exact mechanics behind it. Maybe it's something we can exploit. Also due to your voting pattern. Heck, you might have some sort of wacky handicap of having to vote for your team mate, and you could both be reds! As I said, it's a very long shot, but I cannot convince myself that you're blue given the circumstances, and the way that you claimed, and the fact that there are enticing comments in the radio posts. Well as of my last post about my role you do have all the info about it. You even know the character limit Who do you want me to vote for to prove i cant only vote for teamate? | ||
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On November 04 2010 23:50 Glasse wrote: Who do you want me to vote for to prove i cant only vote for teamate? ugh, re reading that made me realize some people will go OMG HE SAID HE HAS TEAM MATES no. i went with cubedin's words. | ||
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On November 05 2010 00:46 CubEdIn wrote: Again, I'm not asking you to do anything, including changing your vote. I was just saying it looks odd. Oh, wait, there is one thing: Can you not say anything at all in the Loony Radio thing? I'm asking both if it is possible and if you are willing to. It might tell us more about the mechanics. k, i won't send anything next night | ||
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On November 05 2010 01:25 CubEdIn wrote: That would be interesting, but make sure you don't get modkilled or anything for not playing your role. I was planning on sending a pm saying "not broadcasting anything tonight" so he knows i didnt just forget | ||
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On November 05 2010 02:30 CubEdIn wrote: No I meant, just re-read your role so it doesn't say something like "You have to" instead of "you can". Or you could just ask Artanis. I got a lot of ideas going on at the moment, but 90% of them revolve around whether or not Coagulation flips red. it says you may, so i guess that answers that | ||
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On November 06 2010 12:03 youngminii wrote: How many times have you been scum and your scum buddies have dictated every single thing you say? Not many, most times they would let you do what you want. I've never been scum myself but i feel that if they know someone sucks ass they could tell him to not talk much and tell him what to answer to posts against him? | ||
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On November 07 2010 08:32 infinitestory wrote: Let's try not to lynch someone who's more likely town than mafia at the moment. I really hate lurkers, i feel like there HAS to be a mafia hiding in them | ||
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On November 07 2010 08:34 LunarDestiny wrote: Mafia Trash Collector... Pandain said trash collector gives him the ability to tell alignment. Mafia knows the alignment already... Then you say infinitestory is also mafia... Not saying you are lying but it does not make sense. hes insane, which means his results wrong, so they would be blue. That's what insane mean, roles come out as the opposite | ||
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On November 07 2010 08:49 KtheZ wrote: Of course I'm not 100% sure if I am an insane detective. Maybe i only have a 50% chance of mixing it up. However, I do confirm infinitestory as ADD Detective and thus as town. i somehow doubt you would not have 100% chance to reverse it. It would be 100% useless if it wasnt 100%... | ||
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On November 07 2010 09:10 infinitestory wrote: I looked up Serial Killer on mafiascum.net, and that really worries me. However, I feel like since the +1 is stated as a Mafia KP (2+1), it's more likely a mafia doing. Go look at traitor. Traitor is a blue. its a dt that has a kp. mafia can sacrifice a kp to recruit him, which makes the traitor lose his dt ability and join the mafia | ||
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On November 07 2010 09:15 Glasse wrote: Go look at traitor. Traitor is a blue. its a dt that has a kp. mafia can sacrifice a kp to recruit him, which makes the traitor lose his dt ability and join the mafia On November 07 2010 09:16 Glasse wrote: oh i forgot to say, traitor knows who mafia is, so he would not target them. of course this is insane mafia, who knows. Fuck sorry for a 3rd post but here's the traitor role from mafiascum: + Show Spoiler + The Traitor is a role with a pro-Mafia alignment that is not actually in the Mafia family. The Traitor knows who is in the Mafia, but the Mafia do not know who the Traitor is. The Traitor uses through his or her vote to keep the Mafia from getting lynched and wins with the Mafia. Traitors appears as 'innocent' to cops and sometimes have investigative abilities whose results will help the mafia learn who the town power roles are. But they cannot divulge that information privately until they are recruited by the Mafia, at which point they lose their investigative ability and become a mafia goon. Most times, the Mafia has to give up their night-kill in order to recruit the Traitor. If the Mafia targets the Traitor for a night-kill, then they may either kill the Traitor or recruit the Traitor depending on the mod's predetermined choice. In games where the Traitor cannot be recruited, the Traitor usually loses automatically if the "main" Mafia group is lynched or otherwise removed from the game. | ||
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On November 07 2010 09:21 infinitestory wrote: so he's like a mafia godfather dt with infinite vigilante hits too imba@@@@@@@ well hes kind of like a serial killer with benefits :3 im guessing mafia wouldnt know who he is so they would only find him if they accidently hit him in a night kill, then would decide to recruit or not | ||
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On November 07 2010 09:28 infinitestory wrote: Why don't we fix that and start scumhunting? Well who were our previous suspects and why? Let's analyse who was backing deconduo up if it was ever a question. I'm going out for the night but i'll look into it tomorrow when i wake up if it wasnt done. | ||
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On November 07 2010 13:16 Pandain wrote: Veldril is safe. explain? did i miss something? | ||
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On November 07 2010 14:13 Nemesis wrote: He can scan the alignment of one person per night. Where you have been for the last 2 days?>.> obviously not reading the thread much | ||
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On November 08 2010 10:22 Ace wrote: And no one is making a big deal of Glasse and Nemesis bandwagon voting? This can't be happening. On November 08 2010 08:52 Glasse wrote: gonna vote for whoever has most votes, i'll reread tomorrow and maybe change stuff. im at work, can't spend all my time analysing and shit, this is a placeholder vote for now. i look at the thread every once in a while incase my name pops up. | ||
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*I have not read everything he said, just from a semi-quick look. | ||
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On November 08 2010 11:07 Ace wrote: Did you miss the part where I said I'm not roleclaiming? Why the hell would I not try to deny I'm scum? Because I'm trying to defend accusations of being Scum, instead of telling you my role that means I must be scum? How does that even make SENSE?! Is anyone reading this thread? hmm it makes sense to me, idk, maybe i could word it better. anyway back to work now i don't wanna get fired for 2 much internetz lol. ill check back around midnight | ||
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On November 09 2010 08:27 Ace wrote: Seems funny you now believe I'm scum but you said last night you were voting for whoever had the most votes and voted for me. So last night you didn't think I was scum, but now you do? yea, i said i was going to read the thread after work. | ||
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On November 09 2010 08:33 Pandain wrote: glasse answer my questions? At amber, WHY do people think Im mafia. That's what im not hearing at ALL. answer to why?: because. i don't know how to read i told you | ||
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On November 09 2010 08:34 Amber[LighT] wrote: im the most confirmed pro-town player in the game. nice try. when did i miss this? | ||
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On November 09 2010 08:35 Pandain wrote: If ace is lynched and is blue, instant FoS(even more) on glasse. i'll explain later :3 | ||
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On November 09 2010 08:39 L wrote: This is exactly what I've been thinking this entire time. We've let inactive players, in a game heavily favoring inactive water-treading, get away with murder. I personally think that Nemesis is still 100% mafia, but now we're got runners up in Glasse, Kenpachi, NB, and whatnot. I'm going to vote to even things up a bit, because the voting's been way too calm. Especially with that 1 hour reprieve granted: mafia didn't even bother trying to swing votes before then, which leads me to believe they're 100% sitting pretty at the moment. More importantly, it seems we haven't hit double lynch quota yet, and from my prior analysis, there's very little chance that -1 townie will lose us the game, but cutting our lynch power tomorrow by half most certainly will if we don't hit a mafia tonight. you make a good point, i'm gonna change my blank vote (keeping the ace one though) | ||
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@L I'm blue because my role is useless without pm and i would not have revealed it if i could pm people :3 reds would have probably stopped me from doing retarded shit with my role if i was a part of their team. Causing chaos in town is not a good thing to do so i decided to reveal my role and basically making me a green with super twitter abilities. The radio was canceled the day i didn't send a pm so i think that should also prove it. If you don't believe me i don't care, you'll see whenever i die and then i hope you will feel bad about yourself. I can try to talk more but, if you look at haunted mafia, what i did mostly was analyse clues and try to find reds that way, i did not really post anything else. Also pandain i didnt look at vote numbers but i posted after L so i thought it was :O voting twice is confusing, i'll stick with ace, my first target. | ||
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yea i just went back and looked at the day/nights well hopefully its one of the modkills and not only someone that forgot. that'd give us 1 less red to worry about (i think it would also lower their kp right?) | ||
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On November 09 2010 09:01 Infundibulum wrote: why are people voting for kenpachi/ damnit he just counted the votes and said you will be modkilled :3 i hope you're mafia at least | ||
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i know ace is red. i just know it | ||
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On November 09 2010 09:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote: GG after tonight it will be 10 on 5, so we might have chances. | ||
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On November 09 2010 09:22 Glasse wrote: i think YOURE red, not pandain this is @ace btw oh and even more i KNOW you're red | ||
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On November 09 2010 10:15 L wrote: From what I can see here, Pandain is cleared by KtheZ and Ace + Glasse seem to be both mafia. Sup. Time for us to win this game. oh my god you are retarded why would i be mafia with ace if i want to get him lynched? that doesnt even make sense i feel like lynching you would be a better choice | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:08 Pandain wrote: I think he's saying he shot Decondou and apparently ace didn't. But I'm not sure why he didn't say so right away.... maybe he can't or have some kind of weird role or w/e this makes me 100% sure ace is red | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:17 Pandain wrote: so glasse and lunar are a third party? wtf? wat | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:19 Pandain wrote: he said "what are you going to put in radio looney" i told you before though, i'm not the only broadcaster | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:20 LunarDestiny wrote: Shit, I messed up. Yes, glasse is Gollum. ffffuuuuuuuuu | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:27 LunarDestiny wrote: 2)We need to stay alive until the game is over. | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:29 kitaman27 wrote: So why not claim before the lynch to reduce mafia kp? i think i tried very hard to make people fucking vote for ace you have all failed to hear my hidden message | ||
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I SHALL KEEP MY DICK TODAY GENTLEMEN | ||
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On November 10 2010 08:52 Pandain wrote: and........................... kenpachi is mafia. wait what role are you already? | ||
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i'd like to point out that mafia kp = 1 now | ||
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0.000000000000001% is still a possibility | ||
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On November 12 2010 15:25 flamewheel wrote: Actually I normally don't rage anyway but yeah raging is silly it just lets people own you harder and then you start typing run-on sentences ending with trivial statements about kittens. Wait what? hey now no cat hate :3 hi, i'm unbanned | ||
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you scum | ||
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i like insane mafia, should do it again one day, but with more insanity (i have some ideas ) | ||
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also it was said before but town has a lot of kp, if we were organized at all we could've taken care of mafia quickly | ||
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