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On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:During the night, hardly anyone can sleep. It wasn't just all the trick or treaters, everyone was busy doing something. One poor dude? He found that his door got duct taped over so he couldn't get out. Luckly for him, he wouldn't have arrived at the right's person's home (some idiot kidnapped the people). As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy  At least some people stayed quiet. One person left the town to do some illegal activity legally, another person put on his favorite lingerie and admired himself all night. Annul decided to stalk his favorite person. However, after he put on his black clothes, black mask, and black gloves. Someone helped him by wrapping a black scarf around his neck. Killing him. Afterwards a completely different person arrived, played on the tire swing for a while, and left. BrownBear was minding his own business, he didn’t do anything wrong! He had all the tools he needed to mess up the elections, but as they say. It never pays to be good. BrownBear died for being good. Kids, honesty never pays off. Kingjames found something underneath his home. It was a giant pumpkin. Luckily for him the giant pumpkin wasn’t dangerous. However, the Giant Potato that was right beside it blew up and killed him More people started coughing. Three people are infected
Brownbear the Swaparoo is deadShow nested quote +You are the Swaparoo! You never were one of fair elections, so why would lynches be fair? Once per day, you may PM me to change the vote of a player in the lynch vote. Your own vote doesn't count, but you still have to post it. kingjames01 the Self-Conscious lazy VigilanteShow nested quote +You are the Self-Conscious lazy Vigilante! You like sleeping long hours and due to this you are often forgetful about your plans to assassinate someone. Since you're aware of this, you've decided you'll just hit in the day instead. Once in the game, you may PM me to put a hit on someone. But, should you hit a non-mafia player, you are consumed by guilt and jump in front of the nearest train. annul the Bullet Bill is deadShow nested quote +You are Bullet Bill! You love bullets and the smell of gunpowder so much you named your son '50 Cal. At night you can target a player and find out if they are carrying a gun. You are the Bodyguard!
This is Radio LOONY! With DrH as mayor we are in a sticky situation. Be careful, he’s red. I wish I was mayor. I am the serious cat. Meow, Meow, :3 RISE AND SHINE YOU IDIOTS.
Masq is being replaced by L, Everyone say "Hi L!"
New edits by LSB. Quoted for posterity.
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On November 01 2010 08:23 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 08:23 kitaman27 wrote:On November 01 2010 08:21 Pandain wrote:Clues:
There are no clues in this game. Clues suck. unless its been changed... I think at this point we have no reason to trust the mods. You know something's wrong when that happen
Glasse, how godly are you? Just curious.
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On November 01 2010 08:29 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 08:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 08:21 Pandain wrote:Clues:
There are no clues in this game. Clues suck. unless its been changed... there are clear and obvious references to roles, but there are no clues referring to players specifically (i.e we cannot determined who killed who from the night post) but it seems we are being given a summary of different things that happened during the night. are you trying to get us not to analyse the day post at all? are you worried about what conclusions we may draw? Just making sure we don't start analyzing clues and linking them to players. Clues=/= details about role/events. Well, right now we either definitely have more than 1 bodyguard(meaning the mods DO lie), or we caught two mafia, which doesn't make sense because one claimed because he did/did not trust the other. I'm still waiting to hear from DXCVII before making any more judgements, as his "claim" of bodyguard was sort of vauge, albeit revealing. Node when do you find out who's gonna die. Now?
Read the post above yours. DCLXVI is dying tonight.
Other things of note:
#1. Somebody was roleblocked and visited by several people.
#2. Annul was visited by someone in addition to being killed.
#3. Annul seems to have been a bodyguard (or THE bodyguard?)
#4. Glasse, or somebody who is watching Glasse closely, has a special power involving mod posts.
#5. Three people are infected. This likely means the infector did a night action and was visited by two people, OR there are multiple infectors.
#6. According to LSB or whoever hijacked LSB, DrH is red. I'm very, VERY worried. First Lexpar's claim, now this...
#7. Somebody left the town on "illegal business legally". Captain Aeres?
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this game is way too hard
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On November 01 2010 08:49 Misder wrote:So three people died tonight, Remember that one post of Artanis where he said that mafia has 2+1 KP? That must mean that mafia had access to that extra 1 KP. Whether or not that can be accessed every day, we do not know (it might be that they can only have extra every other day or something like that), but maybe we can find out what role that gains that extra 1 KP. I think its the Giant Potato, but its hard to tell in the night post. Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 08:19 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:During the night, hardly anyone can sleep. It wasn't just all the trick or treaters, everyone was busy doing something. One poor dude? He arrived at the wrong person’s home (some idiot kidnapped the people) and proceeded to become gagged and tied up. As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy Annul decided to stalk his favorite person. However, after he put on his black clothes, black mask, and black gloves. Someone helped him by wrapping a black scarf around his neck. Killing him.
Afterwards a completely different person arrived, played on the tire swing for a while, and left. I'm pretty sure both bolded parts are the describing Annul and his death. So someone switched places with him (kidnapped?). I think we have to be careful of the guy who switched places with him. If we get any references to similar activities between one person and Annul, we can almost gaurantee that that person is mafia.
As a matter of fact, that exact part has been changed by LSB in a more recent edit.
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On November 01 2010 08:53 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 08:51 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 08:49 Misder wrote:So three people died tonight, Remember that one post of Artanis where he said that mafia has 2+1 KP? That must mean that mafia had access to that extra 1 KP. Whether or not that can be accessed every day, we do not know (it might be that they can only have extra every other day or something like that), but maybe we can find out what role that gains that extra 1 KP. I think its the Giant Potato, but its hard to tell in the night post. On November 01 2010 08:19 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:One poor dude? He arrived at the wrong person’s home (some idiot kidnapped the people) and proceeded to become gagged and tied up. As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy Annul decided to stalk his favorite person. However, after he put on his black clothes, black mask, and black gloves. Someone helped him by wrapping a black scarf around his neck. Killing him.
Afterwards a completely different person arrived, played on the tire swing for a while, and left. I'm pretty sure both bolded parts are the describing Annul and his death. So someone switched places with him (kidnapped?). I think we have to be careful of the guy who switched places with him. If we get any references to similar activities between one person and Annul, we can almost gaurantee that that person is mafia. As a matter of fact, that exact part has been changed by LSB in a more recent edit. I didn't change that part
On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:One poor dude? He arrived at the wrong person’s home (some idiot kidnapped the people) and proceeded to become gagged and tied up. As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy
This is your original Day post
On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:One poor dude? He found that his door got duct taped over so he couldn't get out. Luckly for him, he wouldn't have arrived at the right's person's home (some idiot kidnapped the people). As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy
This is your current Day post
I beg to differ, LSB.
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On November 01 2010 08:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 08:42 CubEdIn wrote:
Well this is confusing.
So now, most of the game revolves around DrH.
If he manages to lynch a red tonight, we can be pretty sure he's townie.
Either way, the Mafia can either
- go for him, since he's the mayor and one bodyguard is dead
- not go for him, since if he lynches townies and we get a few more of these incriminating posts, the townies might turn against him eventually.
My main concern is that we really don't know if we should trust DrH or not. I was hoping on his poke revealing something, but he got (conveniently) role-blocked.
We should have some form of trust going on, but there's nothing of the kind.
I just hope some sort of Mafia dies, or we're gonna be sinking fast. The second part here is possibly a BIG slip up. Firstly, the mayor only decides the lynch on day 1. From now on we as a town vote together. My vote is worth 2 votes. Secondly how do you know if I was roleblocked? I don't even know that for sure. jcarlsoniv is the only one who can confirm whether I was roleblocked or not. The only way you could know if I was roleblocked, is if you are the roleblocker.
I'm not sure why you're trying to take so much out of what could have been a minor typo. It was you who told me earlier not to look at "unlikely situations" such as you actually being the Murrayitis source, but here you are trying to draw the conclusion that Cubedin is a roleblocker off of a couple words, despite the fact that he has not only given us the name of his role but the intricacies of it.
Cubed revealed at least as much about his role as you did about yours, so he should get the same level of town cred, right?
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On November 01 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:08 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:01 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing
not very smart If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up. If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well: if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really. since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it? Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/ I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death. what makes you think that would let us find out what caused his death? that's just an excuse for letting a town player die for the sake of information we might not get First of all, you don't even know that DXC is town. We don't even know if we can actually protect DXC. Even worse, if mafia set it up so that there is a bomb placed there that night which kills everyone that visits him, that would be detrimental. Ok, maybe we won't be able to determine the cause of the deaths, esp since there are no clues (I forgot about that). But to me, it just seems to risky. We have no info. We suspect that Node could be faking his role. I'm even thinking that the +1 KP comes from a predetermined mafia kill at the start of the day, and that if Node is mafia, he would know about this. Everything points to DXC being town in this case. No I don't know 100% that he is town. But if Node is telling the truth it seems the people dying are blues, not reds. If Node is a mafia lying about his role it doesn't make sense for them to single out red targets, it doesn't set up a possible play for the mafia in all likelihood (unless there is a mafia role that kills other mafia) What is risky? Not having DXC die?
Everything points to DC being town, except:
1) he softclaimed bodyguard (by correcting Artanis on the definition, no less), when there was no good reason to do so. He then pretty much said it was intentional by saying "Artanis just confirmed my role." There's no good reason to do this as a townie.
2) He softclaimed bodyguard, and a (the only?) bodyguard just died.
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On November 01 2010 09:22 Lexpar wrote:
I don't think doch is red. I think I would be dead now if he was.
Don't get into WIFOM. I'm pretty sure your original statement became useless as soon as you stated it.
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On November 01 2010 09:29 Misder wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:20 Misder wrote:
@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town? Agreeable posts, good analysis, cool headed and logical. He didn't make a big roleclaim or bring a lot of attention onto himself and seemed for that reason to be a good target for me. Awwww that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me! ... on the internet... I didn't realize I was actually an important player in this game. On November 01 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I would like to announce that last night I poked jcarlsoniv. I did not receive a PM from Artanis or LSB meaning the poke was successful and jcarlsoniv does not have murrayitis. I cannot confirm this Dr.H, I did not receive a PM from the mods saying I was poked. Did you receive any other night actions? Something stopped my poke from going through to jcarlsoniv. This is not unlikely. Mafia knew that DH was going to try to confirm himself tonight by night action. So if there is a roleblocker in the game, mafia would probably make the easy decision to block him. On the other hand, DH is still not confirmed...
DrH, how in hell did you NOT think of this scenario when you promised us a foolproof way to prove your role?
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On November 01 2010 09:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:31 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 09:29 Misder wrote:On November 01 2010 09:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:20 Misder wrote:
@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town? Agreeable posts, good analysis, cool headed and logical. He didn't make a big roleclaim or bring a lot of attention onto himself and seemed for that reason to be a good target for me. Awwww that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me! ... on the internet... I didn't realize I was actually an important player in this game. On November 01 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I would like to announce that last night I poked jcarlsoniv. I did not receive a PM from Artanis or LSB meaning the poke was successful and jcarlsoniv does not have murrayitis. I cannot confirm this Dr.H, I did not receive a PM from the mods saying I was poked. Did you receive any other night actions? Something stopped my poke from going through to jcarlsoniv. This is not unlikely. Mafia knew that DH was going to try to confirm himself tonight by night action. So if there is a roleblocker in the game, mafia would probably make the easy decision to block him. On the other hand, DH is still not confirmed... DrH, how in hell did you NOT think of this scenario when you promised us a foolproof way to prove your role? I did and I figured if the roleblocker decided to target me it meant he would be wasting the majority of his roleblocks in an attempt to make me look bad preventing roles with bigger impacts on the game from being roleblocked in the first place. It's not just a roleblocker that could have done this btw. Could be a bus driver, a commuter, a lightning rod type role, it could be any number of things. If it's a bus driver that means that I poked somebody else, whoever jcarls was switched with.
If the person who had his door duct taped is you, then:
You were likely roleblocked.
At least 3 people visited you. (the rag guy + the others)
You did not visit anyone.
Someone bussed jcarlsoniv and another target. (Hence, you wouldn't have visited the right person and some idiot kidnapped people)
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On November 01 2010 09:45 Glasse wrote:
Well you can remove my name off of that list since i'm not old enough to be an elder
I feel like you're some insane role. But every insane person is right about something.
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On November 01 2010 09:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:It's actually pretty likely that the mafia roleblocked DocH because it sets up this position of distrust we find ourselves in. As a result we're going to be deadlocked until DocH is proved one way or another. Gonna spoiler the next part because it's pretty far fetched + Show Spoiler +Could DocH be the elder and not know it? So far he's the only person to have confirmed interaction with jcarl
No. If DrH got roleblocked, we have another confirmed interactor: the guy who bussed jcarlsoniv. It's unlikely that he is also Elder though.
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On November 01 2010 09:53 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 09:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 09:20 Misder wrote:
@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town? Agreeable posts, good analysis, cool headed and logical. He didn't make a big roleclaim or bring a lot of attention onto himself and seemed for that reason to be a good target for me. Awwww that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me! ... on the internet... I didn't realize I was actually an important player in this game. On November 01 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I would like to announce that last night I poked jcarlsoniv. I did not receive a PM from Artanis or LSB meaning the poke was successful and jcarlsoniv does not have murrayitis. I cannot confirm this Dr.H, I did not receive a PM from the mods saying I was poked. Did you receive any other night actions? Something stopped my poke from going through to jcarlsoniv. how fucking convenient.
If he's town, this was bound to happen to delay identification of DrH's role.
If he's red, this was bound to happen to delay identification of DrH's role.
That's what I think.
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On November 01 2010 10:06 Ace wrote:
Now before this action happens ask yourself how strongly you believed in Dr.H being pro-town. If you believed so then there's a damn good chance he indeed was roleblocked. No need to keep wondering about what if's or who's playing a trick on you. A confirmed townie is dangerous and if Dr.H is telling the truth then Scum would indeed want to roleblock him.
Note that the mafia didn't aim for either of the two people who roleclaimed bodyguard (DC, Aeres). How badly do the scum want to get rid of DrH?
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On November 01 2010 10:17 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 07:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
you'll see very soon that the information I'm providing will be beneficial to the town and we'll see real results in numbers. I can back this up. Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 07:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
there are other things to my power that will prove beyond any doubt that I am a pro-town player. they may not take affect immediately but everything will be quite clear when I am elected and roleclaim Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 06:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
did you even read the thread? i am going to prove that I am my blue role as soon as I am elected.
Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 09:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I can demonstrate my role is exactly what it is one I am able to use it. If this is not the case then feel free to lynch me. Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 09:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why does that make you nervous? I can prove to the entire town that I am town aligned. If I don't do that, simply lynch me.
Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 09:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I am saying I am 100% able to prove I have a not scummy role and if I am found in any way to be lying, the town can lynch me. You don't have to take me at my word but this is a huge gambit I'm taking with a very small payoff if I am mafia.
Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 06:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i'm the only candidate aside from node who is claiming to offer 100% proof that I am not mafia when I'm elected, just saying
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On November 01 2010 10:20 Coagulation wrote:
im not saying doch is red
im not saying that mafia wouldnt have anything to gain by discrediting him if he is a townie
im saying he had a campaign of bullshit.
There were those that spoke up before the election about scenarios and situations that would cause DrH to be unable to confirm his alignment, but the overwhelming opinion of "DrH roleclaimed, which makes him seem town" drowned it out
politicians leave things out of their campaigns all the time *sigh*
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On November 01 2010 10:34 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 10:31 Glasse wrote:On November 01 2010 10:20 Coagulation wrote:
im not saying doch is red
im not saying that mafia wouldnt have anything to gain by discrediting him if he is a townie
im saying he had a campaign of bullshit.
i'd like to point out that there is always less than 10% truth in any elections. so wait.. your not a god???
watch him point out that he's >10 gods
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On November 01 2010 10:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 10:25 Coagulation wrote:
DOCH is not a shitty player there is no fucking way he got blindsided by something as simple as a ROLEBLOCK. I have a 100% way to confirm myself to another player through my night action if it goes through, this is still the case.
that's not really 100% at all
if you're roleblocked, it's more like 0%
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On November 01 2010 10:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 10:40 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 10:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 01 2010 10:25 Coagulation wrote:
DOCH is not a shitty player there is no fucking way he got blindsided by something as simple as a ROLEBLOCK. I have a 100% way to confirm myself to another player through my night action if it goes through, this is still the case. that's not really 100% at all if you're roleblocked, it's more like 0% re read the sentence
I read it fine the first time. You say this is still the case, and it is. But that is NOT what you claimed.
On October 30 2010 09:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I am saying I am 100% able to prove I have a not scummy role and if I am found in any way to be lying, the town can lynch me. You don't have to take me at my word but this is a huge gambit I'm taking with a very small payoff if I am mafia.
I'm now worried that you duped us in order to get into the mayor position.
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