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Things are moving rather fast 
I think it was pretty obvious that bum was gonna die soon, because of his roleclaim. Too many people roleclaiming-.-
Also, Pandain, you better hurry up with that "confirm your role" promise of yours. I think that you might very well have until next day phase before you get lynched.
If we vote for double lynch today, does that mean that we get double lynch the next day phase? Also how does double lynch work: do the two people with the most votes get lynched? Do we get to vote twice for double lynch?
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On November 04 2010 09:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 09:11 Nemesis wrote:Things are moving rather fast I think it was pretty obvious that bum was gonna die soon, because of his roleclaim. Too many people roleclaiming-.- Also, Pandain, you better hurry up with that "confirm your role" promise of yours. I think that you might very well have until next day phase before you get lynched. If we vote for double lynch today, does that mean that we get double lynch the next day phase? Also how does double lynch work: do the two people with the most votes get lynched? Do we get to vote twice for double lynch? yes and yes dunno fi we can use it twice in a row it starts tomorrow. we each vote for two targets and the top two die.
I don't mean twice in a row, but if there is a double lynch this day phase, do we get to vote twice on who to lynch?
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On November 04 2010 09:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm positive Veldril is Town. He brought up lynching Divinek out of the blue.
If we lynch an inactive it should be RoL or Kenpachi
I'm also really uncomfortable about how few posts infundibulum has
Kenpachi is banned so he doesn't really have a choice of coming out of lurking. As for RoL, didn't he sub for another player?
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On November 04 2010 09:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 09:14 Nemesis wrote:On November 04 2010 09:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 04 2010 09:11 Nemesis wrote:Things are moving rather fast I think it was pretty obvious that bum was gonna die soon, because of his roleclaim. Too many people roleclaiming-.- Also, Pandain, you better hurry up with that "confirm your role" promise of yours. I think that you might very well have until next day phase before you get lynched. If we vote for double lynch today, does that mean that we get double lynch the next day phase? Also how does double lynch work: do the two people with the most votes get lynched? Do we get to vote twice for double lynch? yes and yes dunno fi we can use it twice in a row it starts tomorrow. we each vote for two targets and the top two die. I don't mean twice in a row, but if there is a double lynch this day phase, do we get to vote twice on who to lynch? it activtes next day phase and you vote for two different targets, you can't stack 2 votes on the same target Ok thanks, hmm should we activate double lynch for next day phase? so tomorrow you would vote Vote: player x Vote: player y like that
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Oops it seems that my post didn't go through
Should we use double lynch next day phase then?
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Ha! I just realized that I will probably be one of the most suspicious if Pandain does turn out to be a mafia since I was one of the 2 people that voted for him other than Coagulation. I guess I'll just have to deal with it when the time comes.
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On November 04 2010 09:34 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 09:33 Nemesis wrote:
Ha! I just realized that I will probably be one of the most suspicious if Pandain does turn out to be a mafia since I was one of the 2 people that voted for him other than Coagulation. I guess I'll just have to deal with it when the time comes. wtf? how does that work?
I meant I was one of the few who voted for him for mayor along with Coag.
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On November 04 2010 09:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nemesis voted for him immediately iirc. Deconduo also voted for Pandain.
Just wondering what is iirc?
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On November 04 2010 10:34 Coagulation wrote:
think about the name that came back "mafia retard"
dont waste your lynch on me.
Yes I was waiting for your defense for being a retard XD
On November 04 2010 10:03 L wrote:
Nemesis starts off the game pretty apologetic. Makes a case for the mayor being super dangerous, then realizes that the mayor gets an extra vote, not an extra lynch.
He asks fishball's circle to reveal itself to confirm fishball during the elections.
Some M-rus related posts.
Supports pandain on the account that he's a good communicator, but easy to spot as mafia.
Skeptical of DrH's ability to be confirmed. Says he doesn't trust him.
Pushes on Orgolove and Youngmiini as his top 2 scumreads.
Comes out against roleclaiming, despite having asked the fishball crew to step up earlier.
Wow. I'm only halfway through but this is looking pretty bad.
Going to LoL is up for a bit, I'll finish soon.
I can't wait ^.^ Just note the first part is already made up. I didn't start the game apologetically.
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On November 04 2010 10:39 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 10:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
pandain at this point you really need to roleclaim and do the thing where you "indirectly confirm you are town" to all of us
you know, like you promised you could?
I did it when you brought me under suspicion. Now it's your turn :D Alright, actually I might as well roleclaim since in all honesty either you or Infinitestory is going to die tonight, so I'm pretty safe. I'm trash collector. Every night I find out the results of a random person's alignment. Results: Night 1 infinite, safe Night two, nemesis, safe
Wow you really want to bring me down with you
Which part of your role can you use to "confir yourself later on?"
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On November 04 2010 10:47 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 10:47 Ace wrote:
@Infinitestory: Sorry my mistake then. I just remember talking to bum via PM before updating the thread.
@Dr.H: No point in even going further with this. Let's go back to Day 1:
When Dr.H claims that he has a role that can confirm himself to be town, Pandain also does the same. Pandain also says even if he doesn't get Mayor, he'd be able to do this.
Now, it's Day 3 and Pandain doesn't reveal the result of any of this until now. When I read his posts on Day 1, it sounded like his role could be instantly confirmed pro-town and not something that would rely on random chance.
So if Pandain knows his role relied on random chance then why did he seem so sure he could confirm himself easily?
1.I said it would take a couple days 2.I said it would be indirect
And can you tell us exactly how you were planning on confirming yourself?
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On November 04 2010 12:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 12:10 Ace wrote:On November 04 2010 11:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I say we lynch Ace and KtheZ if pandain flips blue. If he flips red we lynch Nemesis and Deconduo.
that's why we should use a vig hit IMO Excuse me? Explain sir. I'm not impressed with your "scumhunting" in this game, you're basically picking the weakest targets. I feel like if mafia were going to hit any experienced player it would be you first and you didn't roleclaim to bumatlarge even though he was probably the surest blue in the game and the only one you could PM with (to our knowledge) If you're mafia you'd also be the ideal person to save with a bus. It comes down to the lynch turnout but if pandain turns blue I don't have a better target besides perhaps infinitestory.
Except if Coag flips red, infinitestory is pretty much confirmed.
Looks like, town is set on lynching me if Pandain turns up red. I'll see if I can change your minds if he does indeed turn up red.
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On November 04 2010 12:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 12:24 DCLXVI wrote:
Well Doc, you guessed it. Coag was right, I am just trying to save him. Because any real mafia would go to that length to save a teammate who has given up like coag has...
And how does it waste lynches? YOu have already stated that you want to lynch pandain and you seem sure he is mafia, why can't you lynch him today and me tomorrow? I mean if I'm lying then you lynch 2 reds(panda/me) - then coag so 3 reds overall, if I am telling the truth you lynch a red(panda) and one other dies as well(coag) as another scummy player(not sure yet) and me. Seems like it is much better for the town that way, if we just do it your way(coag/panda) then you just get the same result as me lying except you don't know if Im red or blue
You're right. I'm trying to consider what kind of advantage mafia could get from doing this and there isn't one. Why go to that length to save coagulation who is clearly their worst player? I'll switch my vote to Pandain. I say we go with DC's plan. what's preventing mafia from hitting you and blowing up your bombs preemptively? Does your bomb switch occur before a hit does?
I'm sorry doc, but you seem to be all over the place now. You are even suspecting DC who was saved by a medic from a mafia hit, and you seem so set that mafia had to have set up that huge shithole in day 2 against you and even pointing inifinitestory who will most likely be confirmed tonight.
Considering all possible situations are fine, but you seem to be running around in a circle of WIFOM right now.
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On November 05 2010 05:43 L wrote:Re: Nemesis. This is the portion during which you get apologetic. Show nested quote +On October 30 2010 03:12 Nemesis wrote:On October 30 2010 02:58 annul wrote:
its what, 2 votes? if the vote is close enough (like, 16-14) where my one vote will tip the scale, then perhaps it is not "stupid" to have voted it, right?
the mayoral role is not really a town leader position. it's an extra set of lives and a very weak voting power that can be overcome easily (and is 100% transparent). i am playing along with the leadership meme because hey it makes sense, but think about what POWER the mayor has. the only power it has is protection and a weak voting boost. any other leadership that the town chooses to assign to the mayor player is entirely on their own volition.
why do we want to give death protection to a mason? there is no real reason we want to keep the masons alive above someone else who can actually affect things, right? so he has a circle, cool, what does that do for us and why would his death hurt the town, per se?
if i died it would be much worse than a random mason dying, that is all i am saying. are there others out there with roles better suited to protection? probably. but they aren't talking, so i will. My bad, it seems that I misunderstood the mayor role. I thought they get to lynch one extra person.  Lol, I made a misunderstanding early in the game and make on post that i made a mistake and that makes me apologetic early on in the game. You are one funny man.After repeated oneliners clarifying rules to other players with no submissions of your own, you start trying to produce real content around the 300 post mark. You then realize your arguments are pretty ridiculous and back off quickly. Can you at least please point that out. Looking at around the 300 post, my posts are about clarifying people's candidacy for mayor and I was asking them how they can disprove my doubts. I wasn't really arguing.Its not super incriminating, but its odd that someone who's staring at the rules wouldn't know that the mayor gets an extra vote and not an extra lynch. I am pretty new to mafia(although I've played it irl), so I don't exactly know all the roles and what they do, which is why I was asking about the rules and stuff. This is my second game here and this game has a different format than last game.Around the 2k post mark you shift back to one liners and ask other people to do analysis on certain players. You say you're too lazy to do it yourself. I only asked an analysis on misder as far as I remember, how does that turn into "players"?You also trip yourself up when you state that you're all for lynching inactives to get them to post, but then you turn around immediately and say that LAL makes no sense because it targets liars rather than scum. Why use one heuristic over the other? You never really make the argument. And that's not just a single point; there are multiple posts of yours on this front. I never made the argument, because no one asked me too. Those were during different phases of the game. I had forgotten about inactives as most of them have died already at that point. Inactives don't contribute to the game at all if they are townies. It also allows for a place for mafia to hide, and we have no way of knowing which is mafia and which is not.
Lying on the other hand can be beneficial to town if used correctly, and if someone is caught in a lie, you just have to read the intention of the lie to determine whether that lie was supposed to benefit the townie or mafia. Aeres' lie was clearly meant to benefit the town even if it was dumb which was why I was against lynching him.
Does that answer your question?The 2200 series of posts are pretty much a rehash. Against LAL, targetting inactives and clearing up rules questions. Mostly in one liners. In the 2300 section, he pushes for cube to prot DC, which is reasonable regardless of his alignment. The 2500 are a bit more interesting. There's a focus on M-rus and asking pandain to confirm himself + questions about double lynches. This is prior to pandain having a bus driven at him. The rest of the posts are literally one liners regarding inactives or in another instance just a quote from DrH. There's a LOT of chaff in these posts. Look above. Anything suspicious about asking how the game works?Nemesis opens into the 2600 section by stating that he'll look bad if pandain flips red. There's more one liners including a one liner rebuke of my first post, then s'more another question for pandain, regarding how he can confirm himself. Overall Nemesis's concrete actions aren't unreasonable after the halfway point during his posts. But there's a problem: he doesn't really do much even when he is posting. There's a lot (a LOT) of one-two line posts that parrot other players, and the majority of his posting seems to be a combination of talking about the rules, and lightly incriminating people who are unlikely to retaliate. I am just observing for now. I am just "lightly" incriminating people for now as I haven't decided to lynch them. If I decide to lynch them, then I'll be more aggresive. That's just my play style.Anyways, Take a skim through his posts and tell me if you agree.
Overall, you seem to EXAGGERATE a lot of the stuff that I said. Really? I make one post about making a misunderstanding and you call that "early on, he was pretty apologetic." You might also want to include more quotes of my post if you want to have a proper analysis.
I don't really know what to think of you at this point as you seem to have mostly skimmed over my post and make your opinions based on that. Since you were subbed in, I will give you the benefit of a doubt that you just didn't understand the situation at the time my early posts were made.
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On November 05 2010 07:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
it would only make sense if they were stalling for LYLO which they can't at this point, unless there is a suicide bomber gambit happening but that doesn't make sense either
What's lylo?
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On November 05 2010 09:02 L wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 06:58 Nemesis wrote:On November 05 2010 05:43 L wrote:Re: Nemesis. This is the portion during which you get apologetic. On October 30 2010 03:12 Nemesis wrote:On October 30 2010 02:58 annul wrote:
its what, 2 votes? if the vote is close enough (like, 16-14) where my one vote will tip the scale, then perhaps it is not "stupid" to have voted it, right?
the mayoral role is not really a town leader position. it's an extra set of lives and a very weak voting power that can be overcome easily (and is 100% transparent). i am playing along with the leadership meme because hey it makes sense, but think about what POWER the mayor has. the only power it has is protection and a weak voting boost. any other leadership that the town chooses to assign to the mayor player is entirely on their own volition.
why do we want to give death protection to a mason? there is no real reason we want to keep the masons alive above someone else who can actually affect things, right? so he has a circle, cool, what does that do for us and why would his death hurt the town, per se?
if i died it would be much worse than a random mason dying, that is all i am saying. are there others out there with roles better suited to protection? probably. but they aren't talking, so i will. My bad, it seems that I misunderstood the mayor role. I thought they get to lynch one extra person. Lol, I made a misunderstanding early in the game and make on post that i made a mistake and that makes me apologetic early on in the game. You are one funny man.After repeated oneliners clarifying rules to other players with no submissions of your own, you start trying to produce real content around the 300 post mark. You then realize your arguments are pretty ridiculous and back off quickly. Can you at least please point that out. Looking at around the 300 post, my posts are about clarifying people's candidacy for mayor and I was asking them how they can disprove my doubts. I wasn't really arguing.Its not super incriminating, but its odd that someone who's staring at the rules wouldn't know that the mayor gets an extra vote and not an extra lynch. I am pretty new to mafia(although I've played it irl), so I don't exactly know all the roles and what they do, which is why I was asking about the rules and stuff. This is my second game here and this game has a different format than last game.Around the 2k post mark you shift back to one liners and ask other people to do analysis on certain players. You say you're too lazy to do it yourself. I only asked an analysis on misder as far as I remember, how does that turn into "players"?You also trip yourself up when you state that you're all for lynching inactives to get them to post, but then you turn around immediately and say that LAL makes no sense because it targets liars rather than scum. Why use one heuristic over the other? You never really make the argument. And that's not just a single point; there are multiple posts of yours on this front. I never made the argument, because no one asked me too. Those were during different phases of the game. I had forgotten about inactives as most of them have died already at that point. Inactives don't contribute to the game at all if they are townies. It also allows for a place for mafia to hide, and we have no way of knowing which is mafia and which is not.
Lying on the other hand can be beneficial to town if used correctly, and if someone is caught in a lie, you just have to read the intention of the lie to determine whether that lie was supposed to benefit the townie or mafia. Aeres' lie was clearly meant to benefit the town even if it was dumb which was why I was against lynching him.
Does that answer your question?The 2200 series of posts are pretty much a rehash. Against LAL, targetting inactives and clearing up rules questions. Mostly in one liners. In the 2300 section, he pushes for cube to prot DC, which is reasonable regardless of his alignment. The 2500 are a bit more interesting. There's a focus on M-rus and asking pandain to confirm himself + questions about double lynches. This is prior to pandain having a bus driven at him. The rest of the posts are literally one liners regarding inactives or in another instance just a quote from DrH. There's a LOT of chaff in these posts. Look above. Anything suspicious about asking how the game works?Nemesis opens into the 2600 section by stating that he'll look bad if pandain flips red. There's more one liners including a one liner rebuke of my first post, then s'more another question for pandain, regarding how he can confirm himself. Overall Nemesis's concrete actions aren't unreasonable after the halfway point during his posts. But there's a problem: he doesn't really do much even when he is posting. There's a lot (a LOT) of one-two line posts that parrot other players, and the majority of his posting seems to be a combination of talking about the rules, and lightly incriminating people who are unlikely to retaliate. I am just observing for now. I am just "lightly" incriminating people for now as I haven't decided to lynch them. If I decide to lynch them, then I'll be more aggresive. That's just my play style.Anyways, Take a skim through his posts and tell me if you agree. Overall, you seem to EXAGGERATE a lot of the stuff that I said. Really? I make one post about making a misunderstanding and you call that "early on, he was pretty apologetic." You might also want to include more quotes of my post if you want to have a proper analysis. I don't really know what to think of you at this point as you seem to have mostly skimmed over my post and make your opinions based on that. Since you were subbed in, I will give you the benefit of a doubt that you just didn't understand the situation at the time my early posts were made. If anything, I understated the majority of the claims I made. I grouped most of your posts together by post number in the thread, and they're readily accessible here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=Nemesis&gb=dateTrying to tell me that you're 'just observing' or whatnot doesn't explain why you're making 1 liner me-toos chaff posts. Additionally, if you are just observing why would you be lightly incriminating people? Seems like you just want to have future targets to pick off later without taking responsibility for throwing suspicion on them. I am trying to get some information out of them, is that a bad thing?Its silly that your defense here only reinforces the scum-like qualities that were pointed out. To reply to a few points of yours: "I didn't bother making the argument because no one asked me to" Yeah, that's because you were me-tooing me. That doesn't cut it. Its a way of trying to appear active while trying to not take any responsibility. Lol, let me give you an analogy on your crappy point: If you were arguing about how good this movie is a week ago, and someone claims that the worst movie you have ever seen is "the best movie" ever, would you concentrate on comparing it to the 'good' movie that you saw last week or would you concentrate on points on why that movie is crap? Not the best analogy ever, but you get my point. Wtf would be the point of me trying to compare LAL to lynch inactive. I wasn't trying to make people switch to lynch inactive 'mode' at that time, I was just trying to get them to steer away from that direction."I only asked an analysis on misder as far as I remember, how does that turn into "players"?" The important part isn't the plural, its the fact that you, with all your free observing time, decided it was a good idea to ask other people to do work instead of do it yourself. Its pretty a pretty standard way to play as mafia; tell the town to do useful things, but rejoice silently as they don't bother doing it. That way the town's at a net neutral position, but you end up looking both active and pro-town without actually having contributed anything. No, it is important as you were exagerating shit that isn't true.If you were busy in the slightest, this might be excusable, but you readily admit you're just sitting around doing nothing for the sake of watching people. "I am pretty new to mafia(although I've played it irl), so I don't exactly know all the roles and what they do, which is why I was asking about the rules and stuff." Very odd excuse given your prior posting, when you were almost zealous in your will to clear up rule issues. Again, like I said, this isn't conclusive proof that you're mafia, but it sets up the claim that I was really hoping you wouldn't make; the "i'm bad at mafia" claim. The clueless newbie persona is a rather common one with new players who are on mafia's side; its easy, low maintenance, and it rarely brings attention to yourself. I didn't say I was bad at mafia, I just wanted some clarification on some rules that I didn't know how it worked.So yeah, this last post just made my suspicions worse, given that you confirmed pretty much every tentative theme I had noticed in your posts.
And yes if you actually want to know I am actually quite busy right now irl. I have midterms last week and I have one last midterm this wednesday(I'll probably go inactive around tuesday). I check tl mafia everytime I take a break from studying 'hence my one liner posts.' I didn't mention this, because I know that you are just going to use this against me saying "you're just making up excuses now." But I guess it doesn't matter eitherway as you still try to paint me as red either way.
This is the last time I'm replying to you as to not shit up this thread like what happened during the Pandain/Doctor H/Infinitestory circle. I feel like you will just be making the same points over and over again. You have made your point. I have made my point, there's nothing left that I have to argue about.
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On November 06 2010 10:58 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 10:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2010 09:42 infinitestory wrote:On November 06 2010 09:05 L wrote:
Bomb* If the MH loses a bomb because the person it's on is lynched, does he get it back? Should there be one in the game, then yes. They would get their bomb back. wait what changing my vote to coag
WTF, you were planning to change your vote to coag after learning that Mad Hatter will lose their bomb if coag is lynched?
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On November 06 2010 11:02 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 10:58 youngminii wrote:On November 06 2010 10:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2010 09:42 infinitestory wrote:On November 06 2010 09:05 L wrote:
Bomb* If the MH loses a bomb because the person it's on is lynched, does he get it back? Should there be one in the game, then yes. They would get their bomb back. wait what changing my vote to coag WTF, you were planning to change your vote to coag after learning that Mad Hatter will lose their bomb if coag is lynched?
Edit: Nvm, it seems I didn't read the post properly
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On November 06 2010 11:11 Hyperbola wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 11:06 infinitestory wrote:On November 06 2010 11:02 Hyperbola wrote:We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.
pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.
i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red. DocH You basically said YOU WILL PROVE your town and then basically said "MAYBE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS I WILL PROVE IT IM NOT SURE"
I dont think pandain would be the greatest mayor
However
i would rather pandain then Annul and his manipulation if he is RED
and i would rather pandain then fishbowl and his "EXTREMELY SHY?? circle"
I would really really like for you to make me feel comfortable voting for you for mayor. but your doing a bad job so far. Now i am sticking with pandain because he is most likely not a red trying to gain control of town based on the fact that he is not campaigning relentlessly.
Pandain is more then capable of using what tools he has at his disposal to help coordinate a good town strategy and i doubt he would run for mayor if he thought his role wasnt capable of contributing greatly as mayor.. and I FEEL HE is the most TRUSTWORTHY candidate so far BASED ON HIS ACTIONS IN THIS GAME. I Dont get the same feeling from you when your Threatening "FOS" On anyone that doesnt vote you..
IM NOT VOTING on WHOS PROMISING SOME BULLSHIT IF THEY GET MAYOR (town circle?? where??)
IM VOTING ON WHO I TRUST THE MOST IN MY GUT
IS THAT REASON ENOUGH? Dodging a lynch sounds alot like a scum role.. anyone else think so? OK i have caught up on reading
1. DOCH naturally I still cant trust you 100% until I can see some of your claims of verifying yourself come to light. I really hope your not a red otherwise we may as well just bend over and let you get to fucking.
2. you have a moron for a bodyguard
3. Node is asking for invites to the circle? i would think twice before letting people who request in. looks like 1 red was already in the circle. he dies and now Node starts asking to get in?(could be mafia trying to get a man back inside)
looks bad but not gonna dwell on it too much yet..
4. pandain I dunno what the hell you are talking about. Im not gonna keep my mouth shut if someone looks scummy just because they are not around to defend themselves. dt needs to investigate pandain for sure considering he was running for mayor.
also the other people who wanted elected mayor
bumatlarge
fishball
annul
ghrur
glasse
node
also worth keeping an eye on node who is asking for people to invite him into circle. well regardless we need to get to the bottom of the youngminii thing somehow i think thats the point hes trying to make. i still feel like there is a good possibility that his ability is either a red ability or he was saved by a red allie. i dont want this to just blow under the radar
@Glasse
no your right. for the most part however your "cat like" actions are more along the lines of when the cat shits in your sock drawer. the sock drawer being this thread. Not sure if anybody analyzed Coagulation's post history extensively before, but now that he's flipped scum I believe it's worthwhile. I did not quote all of his posts but I did quote all relevant to my conclusions. Also Coag got the 1337 post. Ok so solely based off of Coagulation's post history I've discerned the following. 1. Pandain is almost certainly scum (common opinion at this point). Coagulation supports Pandain all throughout his election and shits on the other candidates. I only quoted some of his posts but he has maaany in support of Pandain. 2. Doctor Helvetica is almost certainly innocent. Coagulation spent the entire thread accusing DocH. If he was a fellow scum then Coagulation, as the prime accuser, might have single handedly caused DocH to get lyched due to all of his attacks. Thus, the probability is low. 3. Youngminii is almost certainly town. Coag again attacks him repeatedly throughout the thread and always tries to draw attention to him. 4. Node is probably innocent and not lying. Although I thought he was suspicious before, Node's credibility is questioned by Coag more than once in the thread. 5. Glasse is probably town aligned. He badmouths Glasse a few times in the thread. Not very strong but there's nothing on Glasse to prove otherwise. just at a glance, one major thing wrong is that if X shows animosity towards Y, that doesn't mean X and Y are opposite alignments. Same if X shows support for Y, that doesn't mean they're the same alignment. This is especially relevant for points 4 and 5 IMO I actually considered this. Not to be insulting to Coagulation, but I didn't think him the type of player to use reverse logic as you are suggesting. As for number 4, he has a decent amount of posts against Node to discourage him from joining the mailman circle and questions his credibility. I don't think someone would do that as reverse psychology for a role as sensitive as Node's.
That is called WIFOM. Remember that Coag is not alone in his posting. So even if he might not be smart enough to think of that himself, his mafia friends probably are and could have easily told him to do so.
I don't think we can conclude anything based on coag's post at this point.
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On November 06 2010 11:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
coagulation isn't good enough to play mind games
Yes, but you are forgetting that his mafia buddies could be telling him what to say.
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