or the fact that a role where you poke someone and confirm your role would be utterly useless for town?

Take a step back, Dr. H. I know things got heated between us two, but you have to see that I did what I thought was right.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 05 2010 21:05 GMT

#2983

it's not useless because it determines who does/doesn't have m-rus

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 05 2010 21:05 GMT

#2984

which would benefit mafia, how?
Aren't they the ones SPREADING it?

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 05 2010 21:10 GMT

#2985

not necessarily

it's clear the the mafia had some anti m-rus roles though since they had a plague doctor

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 05 2010 21:12 GMT

#2986

On November 06 2010 06:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
not necessarily

it's clear the the mafia had some anti m-rus roles though since they had a plague doctor

which spread the virus by making doctors spread mrus instead of prevent....

next?

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 05 2010 21:12 GMT

#2987

what

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 05 2010 21:14 GMT

#2988

I was seeing if you had any other arguments n.n

Anyway, unless you have something else, I'm going to stop spamming(unintentionally of course.) I think town is tired of dr. h-pandain debates....

Canada4732 Posts

November 05 2010 21:28 GMT

#2989

K, so in the last page we had pandain assume that DrH is town, which he wouldn't know if he's mafia, then pretend that plague doctors spread mrus or some shit?

So yeah, if we were 75% certain pandain was mafia before, we should be in the 99% region now. Given that, he should be killed today so we can move the bombs, there's no risk of our DT being able to yank our chain because we can set of the hatter bombs during the night and confirm him prior to the next undecided kill decision.

The only thing that worries me is that DrH/Pandain are in cahoots and are doing this to give coag the chance to get off his night ability, but I don't think coag particularly tried hard to mask the fact that he was a snot flinger or something. If coag's role has a night component as a tradeoff for flinging snot (maybe something related to the +1?) then this might make sense.

Anyways, changing votes, and I suggest other people do as well.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 05 2010 21:30 GMT

#2990

if i was pandains scumbuddy i would have told him to shut up a long time ago

Canada4732 Posts

November 05 2010 21:33 GMT

#2991

Hence why having him not shut up would be beneficial to you if you were playing him as a gambit piece, especially with you being mayormmune to checks.

Anyways, we'll have more flips before we need to make a decision on any of these themes anyways. If coag's ability has some kind of value added night benefit, this might be important.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 05 2010 21:34 GMT

#2992

i'm not mayormmune to checks

mayor isn't immune to rolechecks, thats part of the reason im a little suspicious about hyperbola. i suspected a mafia mayor candidate would pull back on their campaign when artanis said mayors can be rolechecked

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 05 2010 21:37 GMT

#2993

pandain also kinda dropped out of the race

he just said "w/e i can't confirm and i trust you doch so you can be mayor now". it was such a weak post too and it made me seriously consider that he could be scum.

i think I quoted it here:

On November 04 2010 09:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

Show nested quote +

I didn't like this post by Deconduo. Now he's anti-pandain but it could be a bus? IDK seems unlikely the mafia would bus Pandain right away at this point to me, but why were you initially trusting of Pandain in the first place? I'd just like a response from you that's all.

Show nested quote +

On October 31 2010 09:13 Pandain wrote:

On October 31 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

On October 31 2010 09:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:

On October 31 2010 09:01 Pandain wrote:

On October 31 2010 08:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

On October 31 2010 08:46 bumatlarge wrote:

On October 31 2010 08:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

On October 31 2010 08:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Have we solidified a day one lynch? I feel like this should be our highest priority right now, we've only got a few hours left. I'm still suggesting youngminii because of his scummish posts. Although I feel like Kenpachi would be a good lynch as well, the possibility that he's afk or something gives him enough reasonable doubt that I don't think he should go day one.

SiNiquity is my first choice at the moment. Similar post to youngminii but I feel more confident that his actual vote was scummy than youngs.

I feel that Pandain or BumAtLarge have the highest chances of being scum mayor so I'm looking at their supporters and posting atm.

There is some truth to this, I've been looking through the thread and I've noticed a little something relevant. I think a few of us have suggested lynching a candidate. If there was no mafia candidate, I'd imagine a few scum would say that would seem like a good idea. But it was basically you, fishball and myself who have hinted at doing this. No one commented on it. I think it's likely one of the candidates are scum. Though we only really mentioned it when we were looking like we were gaining soe ground in the race. Kill Pandain I say :D

Pandain is my second choice for now but I'm not sure since he claims to have an uber important role. But how important can it be if it's less important than mine that is mostly important on its ability to confirm itself?

I have a weird feeling about Nemesis. his vote is for pandain but iirc he supported me mostly in this thread. correct me if I'm wrong maybe I'm thinking about someone else.

Also if the boogerthrower knows the identity of the mafia voter somehow, come out and claim. You'll be medic protected 100%.

I don't understand why I'm under suspicion except for a couple facts:
1.Like 5 people voted me without a "sufficient" explanation.
2.I'm one of the running canidates.

Obviously the second one is the most convincing one, as I severely doubt that mafia could just sit back and let town take the election. So that leaves Dr. H(to be confirmed), Fishball, Bumatlarge, and Me.

The fact that people voted for you without sufficient explanation is exactly why you are under suspicion. What reason would they have to vote for you at all? There were plenty of candidates that started running (myself and ghrur to name a couple off the top of my head) that got no votes. Why would they choose you without any good reason to?

I'm more concerned with the way he just handed the election to me after it was clear I was winning, when he was so critical of me before, and when he claims to have such a huge role that can ALSO confirm itself as being 100% town.

He said "oh i can confirm myself being town" but now he's letting me have it because I can confirm myself as being town?

wut?

Again, I really have been really arragont in this game. Without a shadow of a doubt, you ARE a better player than me. I was more concerned that I may have a better role and the fact if you are town you are a valuable asset(and you can confirm yourself as town.) I've passed myself off as expierenced, when really I don't have anything to back that up. I need to play some more games before I can earn that respect.

Also my role can still only "indirectly" confirm me. You would understand but I don't want to give too much away. Plus the fact that you're winning makes it easier to concede :p

This was the first post that made me think Pandain is probably scum.

I didn't get much out of page 3, except for the mafia agenda focused on making people distrust the idea of the town circle in the first place.

Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

November 05 2010 21:37 GMT

#2994

Hyperbola should definitely be looked at as a candidate for tomorrows lynch. His play is too apathetic to benefit the town.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 05 2010 21:37 GMT

#2995

actually i didn't, i need to find that specific post

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 05 2010 21:38 GMT

#2996

On October 31 2010 08:18 Pandain wrote:
Alright, I decided Dr. H would be a better mayor than me. I did somewhat get caught up in my own ego and emotion and realized during the Rally to restore Sanity and/or Fear that, if he can really confirm himself to be 100% town, that I would trust him above myself.

As for that mafia vote, I think it's just a ploy to make people disbelieve him. This is what really stuck with me, why would they do that when they know he would already win? I think it's just a poor/desperate play.

Don't let me down Dr. H.,

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

November 05 2010 21:44 GMT

#2997

Now that L is voting for Pandain, what will happen in the case of a tie?

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

November 05 2010 21:45 GMT

#2998

its up to lexpar i guess

LunarDestiny

United States4177 Posts

November 05 2010 21:47 GMT

#2999

Amber, I see you are voting for Hyper right now, your vote can decide the lynching.

That said, I still unsure if Pandain is the right choice.

Amber[LighT]

United States5078 Posts

November 05 2010 21:47 GMT

#3000

On November 06 2010 06:47 LunarDestiny wrote:
Amber, I see you are voting for Hyper right now, your vote can decide the lynching.

That said, I still unsure if Pandain is the right choice.

I know this. I'm going to make sure the right person dies tonight if I need to, don't worry.