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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 05 2010 16:10 GMT
#2941
On November 06 2010 01:09 youngminii wrote:
You do have a point there Pandain, the only reason I voted for you was because of a little (maybe a bit more than little) scumminess I got from your posts and the fact that Coag supported you so much. DrH probably did play that up a bit much but I honestly can't think of a better person to lynch besides you (and Coag obv.). I'd love to hear what you think about Coag's adamant defense of you though, if you haven't already said so.


I'll take a more specific look into it specifically, but I do remember Coag actually supporting me with my mayoral election.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
November 05 2010 16:13 GMT
#2942
That's the point, isn't it? He supported you a lot and he's (most likely) scum.
lalala
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 05 2010 16:19 GMT
#2943
On November 06 2010 01:13 youngminii wrote:
That's the point, isn't it? He supported you a lot and he's (most likely) scum.


He is scum. Infinite checked him, and I checked infinite, so unless he is high coag is scum. Also the fact that coag is playing so weirdly since he got found out and even used his powers.

I don't have a real explanation of that(I'll see just how much he supported me), which is why I'm just sort of lost now. But what I do think is I shouldn't get lynched because of coag.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
November 05 2010 16:27 GMT
#2944
On November 05 2010 21:26 Pandain wrote:
Do MH bombs go off when they get lynched?

Yes
Uff Da
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 05 2010 16:49 GMT
#2945
On November 05 2010 14:34 LunarDestiny wrote:
LSB, did you messed up because you didn't count CubEdIn's vote on Coag.

Oops

Updated, btw, if your name is spelled wrong its because I'm on a phone, and its hard to make vote counts.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
November 05 2010 16:55 GMT
#2946
LSB, I think you missed one more.


On November 04 2010 10:32 kitaman27 wrote:
#Vote Coagulation
#Vote Double Lynch


And he's listed as still having to vote.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
November 05 2010 16:57 GMT
#2947
I checked because he said that he is keeping his vote on Coag, and it seemed odd. Not that I'm doubting your counts. :D
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
November 05 2010 17:29 GMT
#2948
As I'll be off now, and I'm not sure if I'll get back in time to change my vote, I'll leave it on Coag.

Sorry for not being able to debate this any further, but I still think that Coag is the safe road.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 18:58:35
November 05 2010 18:58 GMT
#2949
On November 06 2010 01:55 CubEdIn wrote:
LSB, I think you missed one more.


Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 10:32 kitaman27 wrote:
#Vote Coagulation
#Vote Double Lynch


And he's listed as still having to vote.

Ah, counted his vote. Just didn't realize that he had.

All right, the list should be finalized.

Day ends in 3 hours, Lexpar and L to be modkilled
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 19:01 GMT
#2950
To me, it seems that the mafia is comfortable letting Coag die. This makes me feel that Pandain got a very valuable role and his ability can be put to great effect tonight. Also, mafia may see Coag's role as a mafia retard is a liability and may hurt them in the future.

Then there are these mod posts:

On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated.

Pretty sure that this is Coag's ability

On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying.

~75% sure that Pandain is a mafia and Coag used his ability to nullify Pandain's vote.

On November 04 2010 11:37 Coagulation wrote:
As a last act of defiance I loaded up my finger with my carefully harvested ammunition and took aim at doch. but it was too sticky and clung to my finger upon my attempted firring.
so i began to shake my hand vigorously to remove it
and in true retard fashion projected it into my own eye.

This is Coag's post. He used his ability on himself.

On November 05 2010 13:05 LSB wrote:
If you have any day actions please PM me

Pandain (11)
KtheZ
Hyperbola
Beneather
Youngminii
Kenpachi
DoctorH (2)
Infun
DCLXVI
Meapak_Ziphh
Coagulation
Lunardestiny


Coagulation (10)
Infinistory
Node
Nemisis
Ace
Deconduo
Pandain
Vedril
NB
ROL
Kitman

DocH (1)
Glasse

Hyperbola (1)
Amber[Light]


Double Lynch has passed, unless you guys start unvoting it I'm going to skip keeping track now

Lexpar, L, and kitman27 still need to vote

This is very weird. It seemed that Coag somehow voted and his vote was canceled out.

This is what I predict Coag's role ability is:
- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify.
- His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.

So then, who should be lynched? Coag is like a dead weight to the mafia, his only contribution is bumping their number up by 1 for KP calculation.
What do we do with Pandain if Coag is lynched today? Is a guarantee lynch tomorrow or should a dt check on him?
We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town.

There is a big WHAT IF in Pandain's case.

There is an alternative and I want people's opinion on it. We could Pandain's word and use his ability for town.
If a dt checks on him, out came RED, we lynch him.
If a dt checks on him, out came Blue, then he is proven innocent.

Assuming that he is Blue and didn't fake role claimed. It is possible his role ability can be of some help. We can discuss who he should check. This way, the dt check we used on him will be replaced by Pandain's check on that suspect we agreed on.

This alternative eliminate the chance that Pandain being blue and we lynch the wrong target. The dt check on him isn't wasted. The lynch on him isn't wasted. The possibly we losing Pandain as blue role is eliminated.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
November 05 2010 19:12 GMT
#2951
On November 06 2010 04:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
This is what I predict Coag's role ability is:
- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify.
- His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.

I assumed that he voted for Pandain.
Because In order to nullify a vote, a person must vote first.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 05 2010 19:19 GMT
#2952
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 06 2010 04:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
To me, it seems that the mafia is comfortable letting Coag die. This makes me feel that Pandain got a very valuable role and his ability can be put to great effect tonight. Also, mafia may see Coag's role as a mafia retard is a liability and may hurt them in the future.

Then there are these mod posts:

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated.

Pretty sure that this is Coag's ability

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying.

~75% sure that Pandain is a mafia and Coag used his ability to nullify Pandain's vote.

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 11:37 Coagulation wrote:
As a last act of defiance I loaded up my finger with my carefully harvested ammunition and took aim at doch. but it was too sticky and clung to my finger upon my attempted firring.
so i began to shake my hand vigorously to remove it
and in true retard fashion projected it into my own eye.

This is Coag's post. He used his ability on himself.

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 13:05 LSB wrote:
If you have any day actions please PM me

Pandain (11)
KtheZ
Hyperbola
Beneather
Youngminii
Kenpachi
DoctorH (2)
Infun
DCLXVI
Meapak_Ziphh
Coagulation
Lunardestiny


Coagulation (10)
Infinistory
Node
Nemisis
Ace
Deconduo
Pandain
Vedril
NB
ROL
Kitman

DocH (1)
Glasse

Hyperbola (1)
Amber[Light]


Double Lynch has passed, unless you guys start unvoting it I'm going to skip keeping track now

Lexpar, L, and kitman27 still need to vote

This is very weird. It seemed that Coag somehow voted and his vote was canceled out.

This is what I predict Coag's role ability is:
- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify.
- His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.

So then, who should be lynched? Coag is like a dead weight to the mafia, his only contribution is bumping their number up by 1 for KP calculation.
What do we do with Pandain if Coag is lynched today? Is a guarantee lynch tomorrow or should a dt check on him?
We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town.

There is a big WHAT IF in Pandain's case.

There is an alternative and I want people's opinion on it. We could Pandain's word and use his ability for town.
If a dt checks on him, out came RED, we lynch him.
If a dt checks on him, out came Blue, then he is proven innocent.

Assuming that he is Blue and didn't fake role claimed. It is possible his role ability can be of some help. We can discuss who he should check. This way, the dt check we used on him will be replaced by Pandain's check on that suspect we agreed on.

This alternative eliminate the chance that Pandain being blue and we lynch the wrong target. The dt check on him isn't wasted. The lynch on him isn't wasted. The possibly we losing Pandain as blue role is eliminated.



there are several things wrong with this, and some assumptions you make.
- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify.
- His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.

iirc coag did vote during day 2. Also, during day 1 when would he have used this ability?


We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town.

You assume I am mafia, and have a very powerful role because of this.

I am welcome to a DT to check me, if they can. But from my understanding of the game so far(based on my role and Infinite's), there may not be a DT who can actually check someone who he wishes to check.

Which is why I'm saying that if town is dead set on lynching me and there's nothing I can do, they might as well lynch DXCVII tommorow, when he can't be roleblocked(very likely since Dr. H was telling the truth)

But again, I'd like to hear more reasons why I'm being called mafia besides coag.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 05 2010 19:19 GMT
#2953
OMFG IM A LURKER
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 05 2010 19:19 GMT
#2954
I meant to post this last night, but I had to go out with gf and she wouldn't wait
There is no reason to not vote for coagulation right now, its better to get one definite mafia right now and focus on "suspects" later. Coagulation and Pandain are both good targets and even if it cost us a hatter bomb the fact that its a guaranteed mafia kill makes it worthwhile so hopefully it will effect their KP. Coagulation is the best lynch candidate right now, and I am pretty sure the mafia must of just fuck it, throw him under a bus because there is so little actual defense against him. If I had to guess I'd say coagulation implicated enough of the mafia team already and they don't want to risk more to try and save him.

So there being no counter arguments isn't surprising. Although its interesting how pandain is being rather mundane now.

Also L, vote you noob.
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LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 05 2010 19:36 GMT
#2955
On November 06 2010 04:19 Pandain wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 06 2010 04:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
To me, it seems that the mafia is comfortable letting Coag die. This makes me feel that Pandain got a very valuable role and his ability can be put to great effect tonight. Also, mafia may see Coag's role as a mafia retard is a liability and may hurt them in the future.

Then there are these mod posts:

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated.

Pretty sure that this is Coag's ability

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying.

~75% sure that Pandain is a mafia and Coag used his ability to nullify Pandain's vote.

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 11:37 Coagulation wrote:
As a last act of defiance I loaded up my finger with my carefully harvested ammunition and took aim at doch. but it was too sticky and clung to my finger upon my attempted firring.
so i began to shake my hand vigorously to remove it
and in true retard fashion projected it into my own eye.

This is Coag's post. He used his ability on himself.

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 13:05 LSB wrote:
If you have any day actions please PM me

Pandain (11)
KtheZ
Hyperbola
Beneather
Youngminii
Kenpachi
DoctorH (2)
Infun
DCLXVI
Meapak_Ziphh
Coagulation
Lunardestiny


Coagulation (10)
Infinistory
Node
Nemisis
Ace
Deconduo
Pandain
Vedril
NB
ROL
Kitman

DocH (1)
Glasse

Hyperbola (1)
Amber[Light]


Double Lynch has passed, unless you guys start unvoting it I'm going to skip keeping track now

Lexpar, L, and kitman27 still need to vote

This is very weird. It seemed that Coag somehow voted and his vote was canceled out.

This is what I predict Coag's role ability is:
- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify.
- His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.

So then, who should be lynched? Coag is like a dead weight to the mafia, his only contribution is bumping their number up by 1 for KP calculation.
What do we do with Pandain if Coag is lynched today? Is a guarantee lynch tomorrow or should a dt check on him?
We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town.

There is a big WHAT IF in Pandain's case.

There is an alternative and I want people's opinion on it. We could Pandain's word and use his ability for town.
If a dt checks on him, out came RED, we lynch him.
If a dt checks on him, out came Blue, then he is proven innocent.

Assuming that he is Blue and didn't fake role claimed. It is possible his role ability can be of some help. We can discuss who he should check. This way, the dt check we used on him will be replaced by Pandain's check on that suspect we agreed on.

This alternative eliminate the chance that Pandain being blue and we lynch the wrong target. The dt check on him isn't wasted. The lynch on him isn't wasted. The possibly we losing Pandain as blue role is eliminated.



there are several things wrong with this, and some assumptions you make.
Show nested quote +
- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify.
- His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.

iirc coag did vote during day 2. Also, during day 1 when would he have used this ability?


We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town.

You assume I am mafia, and have a very powerful role because of this.

I am welcome to a DT to check me, if they can. But from my understanding of the game so far(based on my role and Infinite's), there may not be a DT who can actually check someone who he wishes to check.

Which is why I'm saying that if town is dead set on lynching me and there's nothing I can do, they might as well lynch DXCVII tommorow, when he can't be roleblocked(very likely since Dr. H was telling the truth)

But again, I'd like to hear more reasons why I'm being called mafia besides coag.

Actually, there are not a lot of strong reasons that say you are mafia.

!)Even with close voting, the mafia seems content of letting Coag die.
2)You just gave after you are accused of being mafia.
3)If you are mafia, your ability might hurt town(I know this is a IF->MIGHT double assumption).

I believe there are other reasons that people pointed out earlier in the thread, but these are the reasons I am basing on when making my decision.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
November 05 2010 19:40 GMT
#2956
K, catching up and might revote.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 05 2010 19:41 GMT
#2957
On November 06 2010 04:36 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 04:19 Pandain wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On November 06 2010 04:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
To me, it seems that the mafia is comfortable letting Coag die. This makes me feel that Pandain got a very valuable role and his ability can be put to great effect tonight. Also, mafia may see Coag's role as a mafia retard is a liability and may hurt them in the future.

Then there are these mod posts:

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated.

Pretty sure that this is Coag's ability

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying.

~75% sure that Pandain is a mafia and Coag used his ability to nullify Pandain's vote.

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 11:37 Coagulation wrote:
As a last act of defiance I loaded up my finger with my carefully harvested ammunition and took aim at doch. but it was too sticky and clung to my finger upon my attempted firring.
so i began to shake my hand vigorously to remove it
and in true retard fashion projected it into my own eye.

This is Coag's post. He used his ability on himself.

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 13:05 LSB wrote:
If you have any day actions please PM me

Pandain (11)
KtheZ
Hyperbola
Beneather
Youngminii
Kenpachi
DoctorH (2)
Infun
DCLXVI
Meapak_Ziphh
Coagulation
Lunardestiny


Coagulation (10)
Infinistory
Node
Nemisis
Ace
Deconduo
Pandain
Vedril
NB
ROL
Kitman

DocH (1)
Glasse

Hyperbola (1)
Amber[Light]


Double Lynch has passed, unless you guys start unvoting it I'm going to skip keeping track now

Lexpar, L, and kitman27 still need to vote

This is very weird. It seemed that Coag somehow voted and his vote was canceled out.

This is what I predict Coag's role ability is:
- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify.
- His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.

So then, who should be lynched? Coag is like a dead weight to the mafia, his only contribution is bumping their number up by 1 for KP calculation.
What do we do with Pandain if Coag is lynched today? Is a guarantee lynch tomorrow or should a dt check on him?
We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town.

There is a big WHAT IF in Pandain's case.

There is an alternative and I want people's opinion on it. We could Pandain's word and use his ability for town.
If a dt checks on him, out came RED, we lynch him.
If a dt checks on him, out came Blue, then he is proven innocent.

Assuming that he is Blue and didn't fake role claimed. It is possible his role ability can be of some help. We can discuss who he should check. This way, the dt check we used on him will be replaced by Pandain's check on that suspect we agreed on.

This alternative eliminate the chance that Pandain being blue and we lynch the wrong target. The dt check on him isn't wasted. The lynch on him isn't wasted. The possibly we losing Pandain as blue role is eliminated.



there are several things wrong with this, and some assumptions you make.
- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify.
- His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.

iirc coag did vote during day 2. Also, during day 1 when would he have used this ability?


We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town.

You assume I am mafia, and have a very powerful role because of this.

I am welcome to a DT to check me, if they can. But from my understanding of the game so far(based on my role and Infinite's), there may not be a DT who can actually check someone who he wishes to check.

Which is why I'm saying that if town is dead set on lynching me and there's nothing I can do, they might as well lynch DXCVII tommorow, when he can't be roleblocked(very likely since Dr. H was telling the truth)

But again, I'd like to hear more reasons why I'm being called mafia besides coag.

Actually, there are not a lot of strong reasons that say you are mafia.

!)Even with close voting, the mafia seems content of letting Coag die.
2)You just gave after you are accused of being mafia.
3)If you are mafia, your ability might hurt town(I know this is a IF->MIGHT double assumption).

I believe there are other reasons that people pointed out earlier in the thread, but these are the reasons I am basing on when making my decision.


1.Ya, how are there signs mafia are content letting him die.
2. Mostly because I was seriously stumped. I didn't know what to say. It's like theres a confirmed DT who checks you, and say your red, when your actually a townie.
3.Yes, its a gigantic assumption.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 05 2010 19:42 GMT
#2958
probably because no one is bothering to defend coagulation

that says mafia are content letting him die
RIP Aaliyah
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 05 2010 19:45 GMT
#2959
On November 06 2010 04:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
probably because no one is bothering to defend coagulation

that says mafia are content letting him die


Well someone arguing for a confirmed mafia might be suspicious, eh?

Just a little...
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 05 2010 19:45 GMT
#2960
obviously, that's the point
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