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On November 06 2010 01:09 youngminii wrote: You do have a point there Pandain, the only reason I voted for you was because of a little (maybe a bit more than little) scumminess I got from your posts and the fact that Coag supported you so much. DrH probably did play that up a bit much but I honestly can't think of a better person to lynch besides you (and Coag obv.). I'd love to hear what you think about Coag's adamant defense of you though, if you haven't already said so.
I'll take a more specific look into it specifically, but I do remember Coag actually supporting me with my mayoral election.
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That's the point, isn't it? He supported you a lot and he's (most likely) scum.
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On November 06 2010 01:13 youngminii wrote: That's the point, isn't it? He supported you a lot and he's (most likely) scum.
He is scum. Infinite checked him, and I checked infinite, so unless he is high coag is scum. Also the fact that coag is playing so weirdly since he got found out and even used his powers.
I don't have a real explanation of that(I'll see just how much he supported me), which is why I'm just sort of lost now. But what I do think is I shouldn't get lynched because of coag.
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On November 05 2010 21:26 Pandain wrote: Do MH bombs go off when they get lynched?
Yes
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On November 05 2010 14:34 LunarDestiny wrote: LSB, did you messed up because you didn't count CubEdIn's vote on Coag. Oops
Updated, btw, if your name is spelled wrong its because I'm on a phone, and its hard to make vote counts.
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LSB, I think you missed one more. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
On November 04 2010 10:32 kitaman27 wrote: #Vote Coagulation #Vote Double Lynch
And he's listed as still having to vote.
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I checked because he said that he is keeping his vote on Coag, and it seemed odd. Not that I'm doubting your counts. :D
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As I'll be off now, and I'm not sure if I'll get back in time to change my vote, I'll leave it on Coag.
Sorry for not being able to debate this any further, but I still think that Coag is the safe road.
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On November 06 2010 01:55 CubEdIn wrote:LSB, I think you missed one more. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 10:32 kitaman27 wrote: #Vote Coagulation #Vote Double Lynch And he's listed as still having to vote. Ah, counted his vote. Just didn't realize that he had.
All right, the list should be finalized.
Day ends in 3 hours, Lexpar and L to be modkilled
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To me, it seems that the mafia is comfortable letting Coag die. This makes me feel that Pandain got a very valuable role and his ability can be put to great effect tonight. Also, mafia may see Coag's role as a mafia retard is a liability and may hurt them in the future.
Then there are these mod posts:
On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated. Pretty sure that this is Coag's ability
On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying. ~75% sure that Pandain is a mafia and Coag used his ability to nullify Pandain's vote.
On November 04 2010 11:37 Coagulation wrote: As a last act of defiance I loaded up my finger with my carefully harvested ammunition and took aim at doch. but it was too sticky and clung to my finger upon my attempted firring. so i began to shake my hand vigorously to remove it and in true retard fashion projected it into my own eye. This is Coag's post. He used his ability on himself.
On November 05 2010 13:05 LSB wrote: If you have any day actions please PM me
Pandain (11) KtheZ Hyperbola Beneather Youngminii Kenpachi DoctorH (2) Infun DCLXVI Meapak_Ziphh
Coagulation Lunardestiny
Coagulation (10) Infinistory Node Nemisis Ace Deconduo Pandain Vedril NB ROL Kitman
DocH (1) Glasse
Hyperbola (1) Amber[Light]
Double Lynch has passed, unless you guys start unvoting it I'm going to skip keeping track now
Lexpar, L, and kitman27 still need to vote This is very weird. It seemed that Coag somehow voted and his vote was canceled out.
This is what I predict Coag's role ability is: - During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify. - His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.
So then, who should be lynched? Coag is like a dead weight to the mafia, his only contribution is bumping their number up by 1 for KP calculation. What do we do with Pandain if Coag is lynched today? Is a guarantee lynch tomorrow or should a dt check on him? We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town.
There is a big WHAT IF in Pandain's case.
There is an alternative and I want people's opinion on it. We could Pandain's word and use his ability for town. If a dt checks on him, out came RED, we lynch him. If a dt checks on him, out came Blue, then he is proven innocent.
Assuming that he is Blue and didn't fake role claimed. It is possible his role ability can be of some help. We can discuss who he should check. This way, the dt check we used on him will be replaced by Pandain's check on that suspect we agreed on.
This alternative eliminate the chance that Pandain being blue and we lynch the wrong target. The dt check on him isn't wasted. The lynch on him isn't wasted. The possibly we losing Pandain as blue role is eliminated.
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On November 06 2010 04:01 LunarDestiny wrote: This is what I predict Coag's role ability is: - During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify. - His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod.
I assumed that he voted for Pandain. Because In order to nullify a vote, a person must vote first.
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+ Show Spoiler +On November 06 2010 04:01 LunarDestiny wrote:To me, it seems that the mafia is comfortable letting Coag die. This makes me feel that Pandain got a very valuable role and his ability can be put to great effect tonight. Also, mafia may see Coag's role as a mafia retard is a liability and may hurt them in the future. Then there are these mod posts: Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated. Pretty sure that this is Coag's ability Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying. ~75% sure that Pandain is a mafia and Coag used his ability to nullify Pandain's vote. Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 11:37 Coagulation wrote: As a last act of defiance I loaded up my finger with my carefully harvested ammunition and took aim at doch. but it was too sticky and clung to my finger upon my attempted firring. so i began to shake my hand vigorously to remove it and in true retard fashion projected it into my own eye. This is Coag's post. He used his ability on himself. Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 13:05 LSB wrote: If you have any day actions please PM me
Pandain (11) KtheZ Hyperbola Beneather Youngminii Kenpachi DoctorH (2) Infun DCLXVI Meapak_Ziphh
Coagulation Lunardestiny
Coagulation (10) Infinistory Node Nemisis Ace Deconduo Pandain Vedril NB ROL Kitman
DocH (1) Glasse
Hyperbola (1) Amber[Light]
Double Lynch has passed, unless you guys start unvoting it I'm going to skip keeping track now
Lexpar, L, and kitman27 still need to vote This is very weird. It seemed that Coag somehow voted and his vote was canceled out. This is what I predict Coag's role ability is: - During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify. - His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod. So then, who should be lynched? Coag is like a dead weight to the mafia, his only contribution is bumping their number up by 1 for KP calculation. What do we do with Pandain if Coag is lynched today? Is a guarantee lynch tomorrow or should a dt check on him? We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town. There is a big WHAT IF in Pandain's case. There is an alternative and I want people's opinion on it. We could Pandain's word and use his ability for town. If a dt checks on him, out came RED, we lynch him. If a dt checks on him, out came Blue, then he is proven innocent. Assuming that he is Blue and didn't fake role claimed. It is possible his role ability can be of some help. We can discuss who he should check. This way, the dt check we used on him will be replaced by Pandain's check on that suspect we agreed on. This alternative eliminate the chance that Pandain being blue and we lynch the wrong target. The dt check on him isn't wasted. The lynch on him isn't wasted. The possibly we losing Pandain as blue role is eliminated.
there are several things wrong with this, and some assumptions you make.
- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify. - His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod. iirc coag did vote during day 2. Also, during day 1 when would he have used this ability?
We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town.
You assume I am mafia, and have a very powerful role because of this.
I am welcome to a DT to check me, if they can. But from my understanding of the game so far(based on my role and Infinite's), there may not be a DT who can actually check someone who he wishes to check.
Which is why I'm saying that if town is dead set on lynching me and there's nothing I can do, they might as well lynch DXCVII tommorow, when he can't be roleblocked(very likely since Dr. H was telling the truth)
But again, I'd like to hear more reasons why I'm being called mafia besides coag.
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OMFG IM A LURKER
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I meant to post this last night, but I had to go out with gf and she wouldn't wait ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) There is no reason to not vote for coagulation right now, its better to get one definite mafia right now and focus on "suspects" later. Coagulation and Pandain are both good targets and even if it cost us a hatter bomb the fact that its a guaranteed mafia kill makes it worthwhile so hopefully it will effect their KP. Coagulation is the best lynch candidate right now, and I am pretty sure the mafia must of just fuck it, throw him under a bus because there is so little actual defense against him. If I had to guess I'd say coagulation implicated enough of the mafia team already and they don't want to risk more to try and save him.
So there being no counter arguments isn't surprising. Although its interesting how pandain is being rather mundane now.
Also L, vote you noob.
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On November 06 2010 04:19 Pandain wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 06 2010 04:01 LunarDestiny wrote:To me, it seems that the mafia is comfortable letting Coag die. This makes me feel that Pandain got a very valuable role and his ability can be put to great effect tonight. Also, mafia may see Coag's role as a mafia retard is a liability and may hurt them in the future. Then there are these mod posts: Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated. Pretty sure that this is Coag's ability Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying. ~75% sure that Pandain is a mafia and Coag used his ability to nullify Pandain's vote. Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 11:37 Coagulation wrote: As a last act of defiance I loaded up my finger with my carefully harvested ammunition and took aim at doch. but it was too sticky and clung to my finger upon my attempted firring. so i began to shake my hand vigorously to remove it and in true retard fashion projected it into my own eye. This is Coag's post. He used his ability on himself. Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 13:05 LSB wrote: If you have any day actions please PM me
Pandain (11) KtheZ Hyperbola Beneather Youngminii Kenpachi DoctorH (2) Infun DCLXVI Meapak_Ziphh
Coagulation Lunardestiny
Coagulation (10) Infinistory Node Nemisis Ace Deconduo Pandain Vedril NB ROL Kitman
DocH (1) Glasse
Hyperbola (1) Amber[Light]
Double Lynch has passed, unless you guys start unvoting it I'm going to skip keeping track now
Lexpar, L, and kitman27 still need to vote This is very weird. It seemed that Coag somehow voted and his vote was canceled out. This is what I predict Coag's role ability is: - During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify. - His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod. So then, who should be lynched? Coag is like a dead weight to the mafia, his only contribution is bumping their number up by 1 for KP calculation. What do we do with Pandain if Coag is lynched today? Is a guarantee lynch tomorrow or should a dt check on him? We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town. There is a big WHAT IF in Pandain's case. There is an alternative and I want people's opinion on it. We could Pandain's word and use his ability for town. If a dt checks on him, out came RED, we lynch him. If a dt checks on him, out came Blue, then he is proven innocent. Assuming that he is Blue and didn't fake role claimed. It is possible his role ability can be of some help. We can discuss who he should check. This way, the dt check we used on him will be replaced by Pandain's check on that suspect we agreed on. This alternative eliminate the chance that Pandain being blue and we lynch the wrong target. The dt check on him isn't wasted. The lynch on him isn't wasted. The possibly we losing Pandain as blue role is eliminated. there are several things wrong with this, and some assumptions you make. Show nested quote +- During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify. - His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod. iirc coag did vote during day 2. Also, during day 1 when would he have used this ability? We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town. You assume I am mafia, and have a very powerful role because of this. I am welcome to a DT to check me, if they can. But from my understanding of the game so far(based on my role and Infinite's), there may not be a DT who can actually check someone who he wishes to check. Which is why I'm saying that if town is dead set on lynching me and there's nothing I can do, they might as well lynch DXCVII tommorow, when he can't be roleblocked(very likely since Dr. H was telling the truth) But again, I'd like to hear more reasons why I'm being called mafia besides coag. Actually, there are not a lot of strong reasons that say you are mafia.
!)Even with close voting, the mafia seems content of letting Coag die. 2)You just gave after you are accused of being mafia. 3)If you are mafia, your ability might hurt town(I know this is a IF->MIGHT double assumption).
I believe there are other reasons that people pointed out earlier in the thread, but these are the reasons I am basing on when making my decision.
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K, catching up and might revote.
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On November 06 2010 04:36 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 04:19 Pandain wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 06 2010 04:01 LunarDestiny wrote:To me, it seems that the mafia is comfortable letting Coag die. This makes me feel that Pandain got a very valuable role and his ability can be put to great effect tonight. Also, mafia may see Coag's role as a mafia retard is a liability and may hurt them in the future. Then there are these mod posts: Show nested quote +On October 31 2010 08:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Someone wasn't happy. He picked his nose and threw a booger at the anonimous mafia voter. In shame, the mafia quickly ran out, his vote negated. Pretty sure that this is Coag's ability Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 12:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh my god that was embarassing. Just as Pandain tried to vote, a green substance was flinged at his direction. He ran out of the voting booth crying. ~75% sure that Pandain is a mafia and Coag used his ability to nullify Pandain's vote. Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 11:37 Coagulation wrote: As a last act of defiance I loaded up my finger with my carefully harvested ammunition and took aim at doch. but it was too sticky and clung to my finger upon my attempted firring. so i began to shake my hand vigorously to remove it and in true retard fashion projected it into my own eye. This is Coag's post. He used his ability on himself. Show nested quote +On November 05 2010 13:05 LSB wrote: If you have any day actions please PM me
Pandain (11) KtheZ Hyperbola Beneather Youngminii Kenpachi DoctorH (2) Infun DCLXVI Meapak_Ziphh
Coagulation Lunardestiny
Coagulation (10) Infinistory Node Nemisis Ace Deconduo Pandain Vedril NB ROL Kitman
DocH (1) Glasse
Hyperbola (1) Amber[Light]
Double Lynch has passed, unless you guys start unvoting it I'm going to skip keeping track now
Lexpar, L, and kitman27 still need to vote This is very weird. It seemed that Coag somehow voted and his vote was canceled out. This is what I predict Coag's role ability is: - During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify. - His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod. So then, who should be lynched? Coag is like a dead weight to the mafia, his only contribution is bumping their number up by 1 for KP calculation. What do we do with Pandain if Coag is lynched today? Is a guarantee lynch tomorrow or should a dt check on him? We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town. There is a big WHAT IF in Pandain's case. There is an alternative and I want people's opinion on it. We could Pandain's word and use his ability for town. If a dt checks on him, out came RED, we lynch him. If a dt checks on him, out came Blue, then he is proven innocent. Assuming that he is Blue and didn't fake role claimed. It is possible his role ability can be of some help. We can discuss who he should check. This way, the dt check we used on him will be replaced by Pandain's check on that suspect we agreed on. This alternative eliminate the chance that Pandain being blue and we lynch the wrong target. The dt check on him isn't wasted. The lynch on him isn't wasted. The possibly we losing Pandain as blue role is eliminated. there are several things wrong with this, and some assumptions you make. - During day, he has to use his ability on one of his mafia member (including himself) and their vote will be nullify. - His way of voting is not conventional. The vote his cast on the voting thread does not count. To cast his legit vote, he has to pm the mod. iirc coag did vote during day 2. Also, during day 1 when would he have used this ability? We also run the danger of letting Pandain use his ability which may be very bad for town. You assume I am mafia, and have a very powerful role because of this. I am welcome to a DT to check me, if they can. But from my understanding of the game so far(based on my role and Infinite's), there may not be a DT who can actually check someone who he wishes to check. Which is why I'm saying that if town is dead set on lynching me and there's nothing I can do, they might as well lynch DXCVII tommorow, when he can't be roleblocked(very likely since Dr. H was telling the truth) But again, I'd like to hear more reasons why I'm being called mafia besides coag. Actually, there are not a lot of strong reasons that say you are mafia. !)Even with close voting, the mafia seems content of letting Coag die. 2)You just gave after you are accused of being mafia. 3)If you are mafia, your ability might hurt town(I know this is a IF->MIGHT double assumption). I believe there are other reasons that people pointed out earlier in the thread, but these are the reasons I am basing on when making my decision.
1.Ya, how are there signs mafia are content letting him die. 2. Mostly because I was seriously stumped. I didn't know what to say. It's like theres a confirmed DT who checks you, and say your red, when your actually a townie. 3.Yes, its a gigantic assumption.
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probably because no one is bothering to defend coagulation
that says mafia are content letting him die
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On November 06 2010 04:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote: probably because no one is bothering to defend coagulation
that says mafia are content letting him die
Well someone arguing for a confirmed mafia might be suspicious, eh?
Just a little...
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obviously, that's the point
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