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On November 08 2010 03:01 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 02:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I will be voting for hyperbola and Kenpachi, neither have contributed much and both seem like they are scum flying under the radar. Now I realize that these are the same arguments people are using against me and I really don't have a defense for that except that I'm not scum, if it would help I'll roleclaim. Then roleclaim to defend yourself instead of saying that you have no defense
Not necessarily. Only if you think it'll help your defense. >__>
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On November 08 2010 03:21 LunarDestiny wrote:
People listen. Don't lynch Pandain to tell KtheZ if he is sane or not.
KtheZ claims he role ability tells him both alignment and role of a targeted person. In Pandain's case, we do not need to know his alignment. KtheZ told us that Pandain's role is indeed trash collector. A role, which he claims, has the ability to tell alignment. That role is useless for the mafia.
The logical reasons for lynching Pandain are if we suspect that:
1) Kthez is lying
2) Pandain role is Trash Collector, but telling alignment is NOT his ability. (Can anyone find a mafia game which the role trash collector is used?)
Because Trash Collector is useless for the mafia, it makes it the perfect role for a mafia to claim >_____>
also perhaps of note is that KtheZ said he checked Pandain to be Garbage Collector rather than Trash Collector, which Pandain says he is. Not sure how much that means though (it could be anything from the mods using different wording to KtheZ totally lying about his role)
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On November 08 2010 03:30 LunarDestiny wrote:
Wait, what role Pandain claimed and what role KtheZ said he checked?
pandain says he's trash collector, kthez says he got pandain as mafia garbage collector
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On November 08 2010 03:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 03:05 infinitestory wrote:On November 08 2010 03:01 Kenpachi wrote:On November 08 2010 02:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I will be voting for hyperbola and Kenpachi, neither have contributed much and both seem like they are scum flying under the radar. Now I realize that these are the same arguments people are using against me and I really don't have a defense for that except that I'm not scum, if it would help I'll roleclaim. Then roleclaim to defend yourself instead of saying that you have no defense Not necessarily. Only if you think it'll help your defense. >__> I'll role claim because it's the only thing I have left at this point. I am the Veteran Granny, I can survive a hit but "doctors keep pushing me around", so if a doctor visits me, they will die. I'm guessing this refers to plague doctors so if I was to be infected I couldn't be healed.
ok holy shit, i don't think there's any way to make that up
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On November 08 2010 03:34 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 03:31 infinitestory wrote:On November 08 2010 03:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On November 08 2010 03:05 infinitestory wrote:On November 08 2010 03:01 Kenpachi wrote:On November 08 2010 02:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I will be voting for hyperbola and Kenpachi, neither have contributed much and both seem like they are scum flying under the radar. Now I realize that these are the same arguments people are using against me and I really don't have a defense for that except that I'm not scum, if it would help I'll roleclaim. Then roleclaim to defend yourself instead of saying that you have no defense Not necessarily. Only if you think it'll help your defense. >__> I'll role claim because it's the only thing I have left at this point. I am the Veteran Granny, I can survive a hit but "doctors keep pushing me around", so if a doctor visits me, they will die. I'm guessing this refers to plague doctors so if I was to be infected I couldn't be healed. ok holy shit, i don't think there's any way to make that up THIS IS THE EXACT SHIT I WAS TALKING ABOUT HOLY FUCK DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE DEFINITION OF MADE UP IS? WHAT THE FUCK?
Yes, and please don't shout.
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On November 08 2010 03:54 LunarDestiny wrote:
The Pandain situation is the most important. His alignment gives us so much information about others' alignment:
KtheZ because he checked Pandain role to be TRASH COLLECTOR.
Veldril because he was checked to be town by Pandain.
Nemesis because he was checked to be town by Pandain.
Lynching lurkers is a hit or miss to me. But you can giving reason why that lurker is likely to be mafia, then it is much better than lynching random people or random lurkers.
because several other mafia so far have been on the edge of lurking? Divinek hardly posted at all and Coag and deconduo bordered on it by posting not very often
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On November 08 2010 03:54 LunarDestiny wrote:
The Pandain situation is the most important. His alignment gives us so much information about others' alignment:
KtheZ because he checked Pandain role to be TRASH COLLECTOR.
Veldril because he was checked to be town by Pandain.
Nemesis because he was checked to be town by Pandain.
Lynching lurkers is a hit or miss to me. But you can giving reason why that lurker is likely to be mafia, then it is much better than lynching random people or random lurkers.
actually, knowing pandain's alignment doesn't tell us anything about KtheZ
because KtheZ conveniently revealed that he checked pandain and me AFTER we roleclaimed
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On November 08 2010 04:29 Pandain wrote:
Also we lynched a mafia, I'm wondering about Kenpachi's "superpowers"...
he didn't vote coag, so his powers didn't activate
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On November 08 2010 04:34 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 04:33 infinitestory wrote:On November 08 2010 04:29 Pandain wrote:
Also we lynched a mafia, I'm wondering about Kenpachi's "superpowers"... he didn't vote coag, so his powers didn't activate *facepalm* We had a 100% mafia, and you didn't vote for him.... Infinite, who did you check again.
infundibulum is town
i won't reveal his role unless he allows me to, though
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On November 08 2010 04:53 Infundibulum wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 04:39 infinitestory wrote:On November 08 2010 04:34 Pandain wrote:On November 08 2010 04:33 infinitestory wrote:On November 08 2010 04:29 Pandain wrote:
Also we lynched a mafia, I'm wondering about Kenpachi's "superpowers"... he didn't vote coag, so his powers didn't activate *facepalm* We had a 100% mafia, and you didn't vote for him.... Infinite, who did you check again. infundibulum is town i won't reveal his role unless he allows me to, though It doesn't really matter, because my role doesn't do a whole lot. I haven't even used it this game :p
We'll keep it secret then. Perhaps we can use it to verify KtheZ or something like that.
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investigative fucking roles
for the WIN :O
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Tbh I had mild suspicions of Ace since the "If you're mafia, kill me fast" incident with bum's PM circle, so I'm more inclined to believe kitaman on this.
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On November 08 2010 06:46 kitaman27 wrote:It all makes sense now. He isn't an Ace, he's the Joker! :o
grats on zealot
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On November 08 2010 06:48 LunarDestiny wrote:
Infinitestory, do you know my next icon is and what post count?
This icon of mine (I think it is a devourer), looks like shit.
idk, but if i had to guess i'd say ultralisk or guardian
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I have no reason to assume these roles are named standardly or work standardly.
Also, if you're getting your information from mafiascum.net, his claim is more similar to the Role Cop variation of DT than Tracker or Watcher.
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On November 08 2010 08:13 Nemesis wrote:
Hmm well the thing is Ace if he is found to be lying, then there is no way he can talk his way out of it next day phase. But I guess it doesn't matter whether we lynch you or him to find out whether he's lying or not.
But the roles which doesn't work exactly compared to a standard mafia game have slightly different names from those of standard mafia role names like "ADD Doctor", so now that you pointed it out, it does seem suspicious.
Well kitaman, as a chance to defend yourself, who else did you visit the previous nights?
he said infun and amber, in that order
kitaman, do you know what, if anything, infundibulum did on night 1?
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i will confirm that infundibulum did NOT leave his house on night 1, based on his role
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hmm
recap of what just happened:
1) someone claims investigative role
2) investigator claims he found a mafia
3) that suspect says the investigator is a mafia because the role name is wrong
4) people are now more inclined to believe the mafia suspect
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On November 08 2010 08:23 Nemesis wrote:
Well can infindibulum and AmberLight confirm that they both did not leave their house during the respective days they were visited?
Which days were who visited?
i just confirmed infun did not leave his house, based on my knowledge of infun's role
amber also just confirmed he did not leave his house night 2
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On November 08 2010 08:21 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2010 08:10 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 07:40 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
This is impossible. 1.) That's a Tracker role, not Watcher. If you were a Watcher you'd be able to see who visited me last night. Trackers would be able to see who I visited. So you're lying about your role claim. Thanks for my role clarification. I didn't realize you were a mod. No, I was not given the tracker role, I was given the watcher role. On November 08 2010 07:40 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
This is impossible. 1.) That's a Tracker role, not Watcher. If you were a Watcher you'd be able to see who visited me last night. Trackers would be able to see who I visited. So you're lying about your role claim. 2.) If you were a Tracker/Watcher you would have been given the name of who I visited last night. If you're claim is legit then why didn't you say WHO I visited to prove it? You didn't. I see what you did there. You modified my role and then attacked me for not following your modification. Clever. On November 08 2010 07:54 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
On November 08 2010 06:19 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 06:13 Pandain wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
1.Whats your role name 2.What EXACTLY does it do. 3.Who else did you check. 1. I am a Watcher
2. I am informed if my target leaves their house for the night and what type of action they perform3. I have checked Infundibulum and Amber[Light] On November 08 2010 06:16 LunarDestiny wrote:
Kitaman, please do it fast to avoid suspicion that you are discussing with the mafia. I assure you, if I was mafia, I wouldn't wait until after my claim to come up with the details anyways. He also said he didn't do this because he was waiting...right. Waiting to see who the lynch wagon was going to hit today before coming through with this "breakthrough" information. This is one of the worst role claims ever since it doesn't even make SENSE. How are you so quick to believe this? On November 07 2010 08:39 kitaman27 wrote:On November 07 2010 08:33 Glasse wrote:On November 07 2010 08:32 infinitestory wrote:On November 07 2010 08:30 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Well we could lynch Pandain and another person not on your checks to check your own sanity. We had a plan to lynch Padain anyway so it almost works out that we can confirm your sanity, and it's a safeguard to understand that you aren't lying, after all. Let's try not to lynch someone who's more likely town than mafia at the moment. I really hate lurkers, i feel like there HAS to be a mafia hiding in them Agreed. Carefully watching the lurkers should be a priority. Especially those who disappear for periods of time after the town has formed a majority opinion. I had a feeling you might claim this. Luckily, I decided to hide my discovery in a post right after I found out you were scum. That way when you accuse me of making the claim up, I can show you I had the information prior to finding out who would be the lynch targets. On November 08 2010 07:54 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
On November 08 2010 06:19 kitaman27 wrote:On November 08 2010 06:13 Pandain wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
1.Whats your role name 2.What EXACTLY does it do. 3.Who else did you check. 1. I am a Watcher
2. I am informed if my target leaves their house for the night and what type of action they perform3. I have checked Infundibulum and Amber[Light] On November 08 2010 06:16 LunarDestiny wrote:
Kitaman, please do it fast to avoid suspicion that you are discussing with the mafia. I assure you, if I was mafia, I wouldn't wait until after my claim to come up with the details anyways. To top it all off when asked who he also checked - it turns out it's Infundibulum who was "cleared" by Infinitestory and Amber[light] who is slated to die tonight. Thankfully it doesn't matter if Amber[light] is slated to die or not tonight. Only that he is willing to confirm he did not leave his house on night two.On November 08 2010 07:40 Ace wrote:On November 08 2010 06:04 kitaman27 wrote:
I am going to role claim now. I am a detective variation that reveals the type of action performed each night and have found a mafia. The reason I didn't come forward sooner is that I wanted to see if this person made a push in any way for the double lynch, but he has been quiet. Given the results of my other checks, I do not see the possibility of my insanity. If my claim proves to be false, I request to be lynched, but I feel it would be wise to lynch this person first, as it will reduce mafia KP.
Ace was involved in last night's hit and is also responsible the spread of M-Rus. He must be lynched.
So now lets look at the people who quickly jumped on the lynch Ace wagon even though Kita's claim makes no sense. Of course, Kita for the lynch also. Nice scare tactic. You are right.
this is the first time i have ever had to quote something just 6 posts above to prove that it exists
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