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On November 06 2010 10:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 10:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
because i think you faked your role and your posts still seem scummy to me
let me read through your posts first geez i thought either you or pandain were mafia on day 2 when my poke didn't come through I'm more inclined to believe that you were mafia based on the posting but when you claimed DT and got coagulation killed I rejected the notion until I realized it is an easy bus and you did absolutely nothing to confirm your role and there are things about your roleclaim that make me think its more likely a lie than the truth like the rng check and the 1/4th chance versus 10%, it's inconsistent with the other known ADD role in the game not to mention it's awfully convenient that the results returned were the roles and alignments of a player any mafia would know whether or not he had DT powers, you had no information that every mafia didn't already have just information town didn't necessarily have
the only reason it was 1/4 is because it randomly selects a member from the game
at the time (beginning of night 2), there were 7 reds and 21 blues
hence, probability of finding a red is 7/28 = 1/4
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On November 06 2010 10:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 10:24 infinitestory wrote:On November 06 2010 10:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On November 06 2010 10:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
because i think you faked your role and your posts still seem scummy to me
let me read through your posts first geez i thought either you or pandain were mafia on day 2 when my poke didn't come through I'm more inclined to believe that you were mafia based on the posting but when you claimed DT and got coagulation killed I rejected the notion until I realized it is an easy bus and you did absolutely nothing to confirm your role and there are things about your roleclaim that make me think its more likely a lie than the truth like the rng check and the 1/4th chance versus 10%, it's inconsistent with the other known ADD role in the game not to mention it's awfully convenient that the results returned were the roles and alignments of a player any mafia would know whether or not he had DT powers, you had no information that every mafia didn't already have just information town didn't necessarily have the only reason it was 1/4 is because it randomly selects a member from the game at the time (beginning of night 2), there were 7 reds and 21 blues hence, probability of finding a red is 7/28 = 1/4 you said it had a 1/4th chance of failure if i am remembering correctly do you not remember the way the role you faked works?
please show me the post where i said it had a 1/4 chance of failure
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On November 06 2010 10:58 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2010 10:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 06 2010 09:42 infinitestory wrote:On November 06 2010 09:05 L wrote:
Bomb* If the MH loses a bomb because the person it's on is lynched, does he get it back? Should there be one in the game, then yes. They would get their bomb back. wait what changing my vote to coag
you are a bit late
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On November 06 2010 11:02 Hyperbola wrote:Show nested quote +We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.
pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.
i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red. Show nested quote + DocH You basically said YOU WILL PROVE your town and then basically said "MAYBE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS I WILL PROVE IT IM NOT SURE"
I dont think pandain would be the greatest mayor
However
i would rather pandain then Annul and his manipulation if he is RED
and i would rather pandain then fishbowl and his "EXTREMELY SHY?? circle"
I would really really like for you to make me feel comfortable voting for you for mayor. but your doing a bad job so far. Show nested quote + Now i am sticking with pandain because he is most likely not a red trying to gain control of town based on the fact that he is not campaigning relentlessly.
Pandain is more then capable of using what tools he has at his disposal to help coordinate a good town strategy and i doubt he would run for mayor if he thought his role wasnt capable of contributing greatly as mayor.. and I FEEL HE is the most TRUSTWORTHY candidate so far BASED ON HIS ACTIONS IN THIS GAME. I Dont get the same feeling from you when your Threatening "FOS" On anyone that doesnt vote you..
IM NOT VOTING on WHOS PROMISING SOME BULLSHIT IF THEY GET MAYOR (town circle?? where??)
IM VOTING ON WHO I TRUST THE MOST IN MY GUT
IS THAT REASON ENOUGH? Show nested quote + OK i have caught up on reading
1. DOCH naturally I still cant trust you 100% until I can see some of your claims of verifying yourself come to light. I really hope your not a red otherwise we may as well just bend over and let you get to fucking.
2. you have a moron for a bodyguard
3. Node is asking for invites to the circle? i would think twice before letting people who request in. looks like 1 red was already in the circle. he dies and now Node starts asking to get in?(could be mafia trying to get a man back inside)
looks bad but not gonna dwell on it too much yet..
4. pandain I dunno what the hell you are talking about. Im not gonna keep my mouth shut if someone looks scummy just because they are not around to defend themselves. Show nested quote + dt needs to investigate pandain for sure considering he was running for mayor.
also the other people who wanted elected mayor
bumatlarge
fishball
annul
ghrur
glasse
node
also worth keeping an eye on node who is asking for people to invite him into circle. Show nested quote + well regardless we need to get to the bottom of the youngminii thing somehow i think thats the point hes trying to make. i still feel like there is a good possibility that his ability is either a red ability or he was saved by a red allie. i dont want this to just blow under the radar Show nested quote +
@Glasse
no your right. for the most part however your "cat like" actions are more along the lines of when the cat shits in your sock drawer. the sock drawer being this thread. Not sure if anybody analyzed Coagulation's post history extensively before, but now that he's flipped scum I believe it's worthwhile. I did not quote all of his posts but I did quote all relevant to my conclusions. Also Coag got the 1337 post. Ok so solely based off of Coagulation's post history I've discerned the following. 1. Pandain is almost certainly scum (common opinion at this point). Coagulation supports Pandain all throughout his election and shits on the other candidates. I only quoted some of his posts but he has maaany in support of Pandain. 2. Doctor Helvetica is almost certainly innocent. Coagulation spent the entire thread accusing DocH. If he was a fellow scum then Coagulation, as the prime accuser, might have single handedly caused DocH to get lyched due to all of his attacks. Thus, the probability is low. 3. Youngminii is almost certainly town. Coag again attacks him repeatedly throughout the thread and always tries to draw attention to him. 4. Node is probably innocent and not lying. Although I thought he was suspicious before, Node's credibility is questioned by Coag more than once in the thread. 5. Glasse is probably town aligned. He badmouths Glasse a few times in the thread. Not very strong but there's nothing on Glasse to prove otherwise.
just at a glance, one major thing wrong is that if X shows animosity towards Y, that doesn't mean X and Y are opposite alignments. Same if X shows support for Y, that doesn't mean they're the same alignment. This is especially relevant for points 4 and 5 IMO
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On November 07 2010 04:05 LSB wrote:
Remember to send in your night actions!
When does night end?
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Points of note!
1) Cubedin was roleblocked while protting himself. Dammit.
2) DC's suicide blew up deconduo. We get lucky again!
3) Neither Pandain nor I is dead.
4) DrH, Cubed, and DC were all perfectly honest with their claims.
5) NB did NOT die. Node, you have some explaining to do.
6) Glasse did not broadcast anything. Radio LOONY is empty.
7) 2 immune, 5 infected. M-itis is spreading far slower than expected.
8) Three men visited one house one time, while another guy was "unavailable for comment"
9) Don't forget double lynch. Who are our suspects?
10) Let's start analyzing the day posts for hints toward roles. Who's died by gunshot? Who's died by explosive? etc.
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By the way~ DrH poked me last night. May he rest in peace.
Also, with the results of my check from last night, I found a blue. Do you guys want me to reveal? (and if so, just alignment, or role name as well?)
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On November 07 2010 08:25 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 08:22 KtheZ wrote:
Considering that the state of the town is in complete disarray, I will now roleclaim.
I am the detective. However, I suspect that I am an "insane detective".
The reasons and my finding will be below.
On night 1, I forgot to investigate anyone, being the lurker dumbass I was.
On night 2, I investigated Pandain. I found him to be the MAFIA Garbage collector.
On night 3, I investigated infinitestory, and found him to be the MAFIA ADD detective.
Now, what the hell? Why would the mafia have an ADD Detective? This has led me to conclude that I am insane.
Now, assuming I'm an insane detective, it is apparent that Pandain and infinitestory are town-aligned.
I am no longer into lynching pandain; I had found him to be mafia, which is why i was so ardent in pursuing his lynch.
I feel that infinitestory's results are now trustworthy, and that pandain did not lie about his role.
If you think I am lying, look at my posts against pandain. I was so one-mindedly pursuing pandain because I thought he was mafia. However, this night has confirmed my sad suspicion that I am "insane". Mind giving the name of your role and a better description of how it works? Is it straight up detective or is there more to it?
From his post, it looks like he's a regular detective whose checks return the opposite alignment.
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it's good the bus driver is gone, that'll prevent confused interpretation of the night actions.
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Also, Pandain, I now want to hear your garbage collection results more than ever.
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On November 07 2010 08:30 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Well we could lynch Pandain and another person not on your checks to check your own sanity. We had a plan to lynch Padain anyway so it almost works out that we can confirm your sanity, and it's a safeguard to understand that you aren't lying, after all.
Let's try not to lynch someone who's more likely town than mafia at the moment.
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On November 07 2010 08:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 08:21 infinitestory wrote:
7) 2 immune, 5 infected. M-itis is spreading far slower than expected. Sorry, this was wrong. 3 immune, 4 infected. Updated in the post.
Excellent.
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On November 07 2010 08:30 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 08:24 infinitestory wrote:
By the way~ DrH poked me last night. May he rest in peace.
Also, with the results of my check from last night, I found a blue. Do you guys want me to reveal? (and if so, just alignment, or role name as well?) I would say no to the role name. Maybe the alignment, unless you feel revealing it would hurt us as a town.
Alright then. I don't think there's any way this will hurt us:
Infundibulum is town
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On November 07 2010 08:21 infinitestory wrote:
Points of note!
1) Cubedin was roleblocked while protting himself. Dammit.
2) DC's suicide blew up deconduo. We get lucky again!
3) Neither Pandain nor I is dead.
4) DrH, Cubed, and DC were all perfectly honest with their claims.
5) NB did NOT die. Node, you have some explaining to do.
6) Glasse did not broadcast anything. Radio LOONY is empty.
7) 2 immune, 5 infected. M-itis is spreading far slower than expected.
8) Three men visited one house one time, while another guy was "unavailable for comment"
9) Don't forget double lynch. Who are our suspects?
10) Let's start analyzing the day posts for hints toward roles. Who's died by gunshot? Who's died by explosive? etc.
11) Infundibulum is town, I checked. I'll reveal his role only if he wants me to.
12) KtheZ has claimed insane detective. He forgot to check night 1, but found me and pandain to be mafia versions of the roles we claimed on nights 2 and 3.
13) DrH poked me last night. His final poke ;(
14) DrH is town for the first time ever, I think
Updated because we know more now.
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On November 07 2010 08:46 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 08:42 LunarDestiny wrote:
Can we confirm that pandain is town given KtheZ's check.
I would want to believe that both infinitestory and pandain town rather than both of them being mafia.
If they are both town, then Pandain confirmation of Nemesis being town is also true. Only if we assume KtheZ is telling the truth. Him and Pandain have been pretty pretty close so far so they are likely the same alignment. Claiming an insane role by referencing one of our only likely confirmed blues, infinitestory, would be really easy to pull off.
By "pretty close," do you mean KtheZ was one of the most ardent pushers of lynching Pandain?
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wait, shit
if Beneather had put his voodoo doll on DrH, that would explain how it looks like mafia got 3 kills but NB survived.
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On November 07 2010 09:01 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2010 09:00 infinitestory wrote:
wait, shit
if Beneather had put his voodoo doll on DrH, that would explain how it looks like mafia got 3 kills but NB survived. Ya, that's what I assumed for the story, however we are still missing DC's second bomb. Did it not go off?
DC's bombs don't go off when he commits suicide, according to the Role PM
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On November 07 2010 09:03 LunarDestiny wrote:
deconduo also died. Maybe a vig got him?
he visited DC when DC committed suicide by explosive
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On November 07 2010 09:06 Nemesis wrote:
Hmm, yeah I guess it is plausible that Beneather indeed placed his doll on DrH and NB got protected. Can NB confirm if he was protected?
I thought he just said he was?
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