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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 04 2010 03:13 GMT
#2798
On November 04 2010 12:10 Coagulation wrote:
DCLXVI is mafia trying to save me
i appreciate the effort but i have accepted my fate

where did i put that picture of the orly owl... brb let me find it
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 04 2010 03:16 GMT
#2808
On November 04 2010 12:10 Coagulation wrote:
DCLXVI is mafia trying to save me
i appreciate the effort but i have accepted my fate

[image loading]
here we go
wait wat
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 04 2010 03:30 GMT
#2825
On November 04 2010 12:28 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 12:27 Ace wrote:
I bet Doc's next argument is "because you have a defiler icon, you must be Scum!"

zerg icon = auto scum ..


Im not sure about what 666 is trying to say.. is he saying he gives up also or he being sarcastic about being mafia

phew, thank god i dont have a zerg icon anymore

hes being sarcastic btw

also, if dc turns out to be mafia, and we follow his plan, he just handed himself to us on a silver platter o_o although in that case we would also lose some townies probably
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 04 2010 03:35 GMT
#2830
On November 04 2010 12:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On November 04 2010 12:24 DCLXVI wrote:
Well Doc, you guessed it. Coag was right, I am just trying to save him. Because any real mafia would go to that length to save a teammate who has given up like coag has...

And how does it waste lynches? YOu have already stated that you want to lynch pandain and you seem sure he is mafia, why can't you lynch him today and me tomorrow? I mean if I'm lying then you lynch 2 reds(panda/me) - then coag so 3 reds overall, if I am telling the truth you lynch a red(panda) and one other dies as well(coag) as another scummy player(not sure yet) and me. Seems like it is much better for the town that way, if we just do it your way(coag/panda) then you just get the same result as me lying except you don't know if Im red or blue


You're right. I'm trying to consider what kind of advantage mafia could get from doing this and there isn't one. Why go to that length to save coagulation who is clearly their worst player?

I'll switch my vote to Pandain. I say we go with DC's plan.

what's preventing mafia from hitting you and blowing up your bombs preemptively? Does your bomb switch occur before a hit does?

this is a good question to ask
i have a feeling the bomb switch will occur first, but we should get it clarified
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 04 2010 03:51 GMT
#2846
one downside to DC's plan I just thought of
remember Kenpachi claimed some super powers? he's not guaranteed to be able to use those if we kill coag this way
that could be minor though, it all depends on the veracity of kenpachi's claim and the extend of his superpowers
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 04 2010 06:36 GMT
#2867
OK GUYS. Summary of what we know so far for today.
I've claimed ADD Detective with a check returning red on Coagulation. DCLXVI has claimed Mad Hatter with a bomb on Coagulation. Kenpachi has semi-claimed a role that gets super powers if he votes for a mafia who ends up getting lynched that day. Pandain has claimed trash collector, which checks the alignment of one player randomly every night (checks town on me and Nemesis).

However, DrH et al. are leading a movement to lynch Pandain based on scummy play. So right now, we have Coagulation and Pandain facing the guillotine.

we have 2 suggested plans:

1) Original plan. We lynch Coagulation today, vote double lynch for next day. We get a vig hit on Pandain tonight if possible, and decide next day's lynches based on that.
Pros: Kill a mafia immediately. This may reduce mafia's KP as well. Kenpachi is guaranteed to be able to use his super powers. Is much simpler, and has less "what ifs." Conserves our Mad Hatter. If Pandain is blue, he has more time to prove it and might find us another red.
Cons: We don't get as many kills. Also, if we don't use a vig, we might have to use a lynch on Pandain and it takes more time. We may also end up wasting one of DC's bombs.

2) Alternate plan. We lynch Pandain today, tonight DC moves his other bomb onto somebody more scummy. Next day, we lynch DC and another person, so DC's bombs blow up and kill Coagulation too.
Pros: More kills, which means more chances to hit either town or red. Can conserve a vigilante. We lynch Pandain earlier and therefore have more time/information to decide next day's lynches.
Cons: More "what iffy." Kenpachi is not guaranteed to be able to use his ability, DC might die overnight, mafia might have some other dastardly trick up their sleeves (remember, they have more information than us), wtf are we going to do if Pandain is blue, etc.

As town, we should decide on one plan and ALL FOLLOW IT. The main reason for this is that Kenpachi can only use his ability if the player he votes for actually gets lynched, from what I read. We should aim to avoid letting the mafia steer us toward whichever one is more beneficial for them.
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 05 2010 00:57 GMT
#2915
On November 05 2010 09:56 deconduo wrote:
Oh and theres no reason not to vote for a double lynch at this stage I think, so I would FoS anyone that isn't voting for it.

so i went over the thread to see who this included, and I noticed I myself forgot to. fuck
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 05 2010 23:33 GMT
#3107
On November 06 2010 08:31 Glasse wrote:
So i didn't read everything about the discussion, who is confirmed mafia if coag is red? was it pandain? cubedin?

People were saying Pandain because Coag vigorously defended Pandain some time ago
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2010 00:40 GMT
#3128
On November 06 2010 09:31 Kenpachi wrote:
GOD DAMN IT HOW DID COAG GET LYNCHED ...
I might die tonight.. Then i say DrH and DC are Mafia -_-

coag got lynched because i put forth our two plans, told the town in bold font to all stick with one, and they decided to split almost exactly down the middle -_____________-

i decided earlier today that if i got home before the day cycle ended, i would write a message in huge font telling kenpachi to make sure he voted for whoever won... but i got home late by just a few minutes i think
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2010 00:42 GMT
#3129
On November 06 2010 09:05 L wrote:
Bomb*

actually, needa clarify
If the MH loses a bomb because the person it's on is lynched, does he get it back?
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2010 00:53 GMT
#3137
On November 06 2010 09:51 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 09:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
why? i dont think pandain is mafia anymore

none of coags posting/pandain posting makes sense as mafia and as much as you can say WIFOM there is a point when I see that pandain isn't mafia, he's just the worst scumhunter/analyser in the history of mafia

Then how do you explain the secret mafia vote which came at 6:55?

a mafia with an extra vote ability decided to use it just before 6:55
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2010 00:58 GMT
#3139
On November 06 2010 09:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
no conclusions can be drawn from that vote

it could be a bus
it could be to make pandain look more suspicious
it could be to make everyone switch off coag

it could be anything

wait a sec, hey...

also, i don't think it could be a bus, seeing as the mafia would then be handing us an unconfirmed red in order to save a confirmed red
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2010 01:01 GMT
#3143
On November 06 2010 10:00 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 09:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 06 2010 09:31 Kenpachi wrote:
GOD DAMN IT HOW DID COAG GET LYNCHED ...
I might die tonight.. Then i say DrH and DC are Mafia -_-

we might as well lynch you

you are really inactive and now you're accusing me who was basically proved to be town by lexpars death and DC whose gambit makes zero sense as a mafia

did you just not read/understand this game ??

well if i die tonight, it would probably only be me to suspect you and DC are mafia regardless of everything that happened in this game because im sorta ticked that the plan was changed :l..

But if i dont die, i dont want to vote for DC cause i want to actually help the town by voting Pandain .. Wasnt it planned that DC was going to die according to Node or was it disproved?

DC was protted last night. Node says NB is dying tonight.
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2010 01:02 GMT
#3145
On November 06 2010 10:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 09:58 infinitestory wrote:
On November 06 2010 09:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
no conclusions can be drawn from that vote

it could be a bus
it could be to make pandain look more suspicious
it could be to make everyone switch off coag

it could be anything

wait a sec, hey...

also, i don't think it could be a bus, seeing as the mafia would then be handing us an unconfirmed red in order to save a confirmed red


busing coagulation as in they're voting for him cause they dont care if he dies

oh, what in f- i read the secret mafia vote under pandain somehow >_____>
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2010 01:05 GMT
#3151
On November 06 2010 10:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
almost 99% of kthez's posts have been in the last day phase (when a mafia just happened to have been caught) and were mostly concerned with changing the lynch from coagulation to pandain

we should lynch him tomorrow

why does that make him suspicious again? there were several people advocating for changing the lynch to pandain iirc

if there are specific posts which look scummy in that duration, mind highlighting them for me?
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2010 01:10 GMT
#3156
On November 06 2010 10:04 DCLXVI wrote:
Well that sucks. Apparently people wanted their results today instead of waiting until tomorrow for double the benefit, but sure. So I am not a usual mad hatter, I am a crazy mad hatter in that my downside is I commit suicide tonight (and none one else dies). So if the doctor who saved me last night wants to help me out again that would be great, but I think protecting our DT (IS) might be a bit more important since I only have one bomb now. If my plan was voted for I would have said something about how I was vulnerable tonight to try to get doc protection or get hit by mafia, but w/e. Good luck town, and take a good hard look at which plans people supported today and for what reason. I think you can find several mafia just from looking at the voting today.

I'm not a highly valuable DT, since my check is RNG'd. We have something on the order of 18 blues, 6 reds remaining, so once again my check is a 1 in 4 thing (which means on average I'll find another red on night 6). Medics, please don't waste your prot on me unless you have an excellent reason.
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2010 01:13 GMT
#3162
On November 06 2010 10:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 10:05 infinitestory wrote:
On November 06 2010 10:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
almost 99% of kthez's posts have been in the last day phase (when a mafia just happened to have been caught) and were mostly concerned with changing the lynch from coagulation to pandain

we should lynch him tomorrow

why does that make him suspicious again? there were several people advocating for changing the lynch to pandain iirc

if there are specific posts which look scummy in that duration, mind highlighting them for me?

we went from having a sure red target to a big split bandwagon. you don't think mafia were involved in that?

the fact that literally all of kthez's impactful posts have been in that regard makes him suspicious to me.

actually, that's pretty darned true
to be fair, i'll note that you and some others (Ace? i can't even remember) advocated lynching pandain too... but i will agree that it's especially odd that kthez didn't come in actively until i found coag
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2010 01:20 GMT
#3171
On November 06 2010 10:16 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 10:11 Pandain wrote:
If a DT does manage to check me, should they claim so in thread?


Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 10:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
dt's should only claim if they find a red


I think if a DT check Pandain and he is blue. The dt should claim. This would save us one lynch (on pandain) and we will then know that Pandain was telling the truth. Then Pandain's claim on infinitestory and Nemesis is blue is also true. Pandain's night 3 alignment check is also true.

*and we also get the DT's night 1 and night 2 checks

but that's only provided DT and Pandain are both telling the truth
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2010 01:20 GMT
#3173
On November 06 2010 10:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
anyway infinitestory is now my #1 suspect but I need to read through his posts to confirm that

umm, care to explain why?
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infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2010 01:22 GMT
#3177
On November 06 2010 10:18 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 10:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
im 100% town, the night post proved it

the only way I would believe infinitestory is 100% town is if coagulation was the blue retard. the fact that coag was red says nothing.

I missed that night post. Where was it?

bottom of page 155

it says that Lexpar's role is Careful Doctor, which will die if he protects a red
Lexpar stated that if he died night 1, then DrH is red... which means Lexpar probably protected DrH and survived
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