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On November 04 2010 12:10 Coagulation wrote: DCLXVI is mafia trying to save me i appreciate the effort but i have accepted my fate where did i put that picture of the orly owl... brb let me find it | ||
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On November 04 2010 12:10 Coagulation wrote: DCLXVI is mafia trying to save me i appreciate the effort but i have accepted my fate ![[image loading]](http://www.orly-owl.com/Images/Mexican_orly_thumb.jpg) here we go wait wat | ||
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On November 04 2010 12:28 Kenpachi wrote: zerg icon = auto scum .. Im not sure about what 666 is trying to say.. is he saying he gives up also or he being sarcastic about being mafia phew, thank god i dont have a zerg icon anymore hes being sarcastic btw also, if dc turns out to be mafia, and we follow his plan, he just handed himself to us on a silver platter o_o although in that case we would also lose some townies probably | ||
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On November 04 2010 12:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You're right. I'm trying to consider what kind of advantage mafia could get from doing this and there isn't one. Why go to that length to save coagulation who is clearly their worst player? I'll switch my vote to Pandain. I say we go with DC's plan. what's preventing mafia from hitting you and blowing up your bombs preemptively? Does your bomb switch occur before a hit does? this is a good question to ask i have a feeling the bomb switch will occur first, but we should get it clarified | ||
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remember Kenpachi claimed some super powers? he's not guaranteed to be able to use those if we kill coag this way that could be minor though, it all depends on the veracity of kenpachi's claim and the extend of his superpowers | ||
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I've claimed ADD Detective with a check returning red on Coagulation. DCLXVI has claimed Mad Hatter with a bomb on Coagulation. Kenpachi has semi-claimed a role that gets super powers if he votes for a mafia who ends up getting lynched that day. Pandain has claimed trash collector, which checks the alignment of one player randomly every night (checks town on me and Nemesis). However, DrH et al. are leading a movement to lynch Pandain based on scummy play. So right now, we have Coagulation and Pandain facing the guillotine. we have 2 suggested plans: 1) Original plan. We lynch Coagulation today, vote double lynch for next day. We get a vig hit on Pandain tonight if possible, and decide next day's lynches based on that. Pros: Kill a mafia immediately. This may reduce mafia's KP as well. Kenpachi is guaranteed to be able to use his super powers. Is much simpler, and has less "what ifs." Conserves our Mad Hatter. If Pandain is blue, he has more time to prove it and might find us another red. Cons: We don't get as many kills. Also, if we don't use a vig, we might have to use a lynch on Pandain and it takes more time. We may also end up wasting one of DC's bombs. 2) Alternate plan. We lynch Pandain today, tonight DC moves his other bomb onto somebody more scummy. Next day, we lynch DC and another person, so DC's bombs blow up and kill Coagulation too. Pros: More kills, which means more chances to hit either town or red. Can conserve a vigilante. We lynch Pandain earlier and therefore have more time/information to decide next day's lynches. Cons: More "what iffy." Kenpachi is not guaranteed to be able to use his ability, DC might die overnight, mafia might have some other dastardly trick up their sleeves (remember, they have more information than us), wtf are we going to do if Pandain is blue, etc. As town, we should decide on one plan and ALL FOLLOW IT. The main reason for this is that Kenpachi can only use his ability if the player he votes for actually gets lynched, from what I read. We should aim to avoid letting the mafia steer us toward whichever one is more beneficial for them. | ||
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On November 05 2010 09:56 deconduo wrote: Oh and theres no reason not to vote for a double lynch at this stage I think, so I would FoS anyone that isn't voting for it. so i went over the thread to see who this included, and I noticed I myself forgot to. fuck | ||
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On November 06 2010 08:31 Glasse wrote: So i didn't read everything about the discussion, who is confirmed mafia if coag is red? was it pandain? cubedin? People were saying Pandain because Coag vigorously defended Pandain some time ago | ||
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On November 06 2010 09:31 Kenpachi wrote: GOD DAMN IT HOW DID COAG GET LYNCHED ... I might die tonight.. Then i say DrH and DC are Mafia -_- coag got lynched because i put forth our two plans, told the town in bold font to all stick with one, and they decided to split almost exactly down the middle -_____________- i decided earlier today that if i got home before the day cycle ended, i would write a message in huge font telling kenpachi to make sure he voted for whoever won... but i got home late by just a few minutes i think | ||
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On November 06 2010 09:05 L wrote: Bomb* actually, needa clarify If the MH loses a bomb because the person it's on is lynched, does he get it back? | ||
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On November 06 2010 09:51 LunarDestiny wrote: Then how do you explain the secret mafia vote which came at 6:55? a mafia with an extra vote ability decided to use it just before 6:55 | ||
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On November 06 2010 09:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote: no conclusions can be drawn from that vote it could be a bus it could be to make pandain look more suspicious it could be to make everyone switch off coag it could be anything wait a sec, hey... also, i don't think it could be a bus, seeing as the mafia would then be handing us an unconfirmed red in order to save a confirmed red | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:00 Kenpachi wrote: well if i die tonight, it would probably only be me to suspect you and DC are mafia regardless of everything that happened in this game because im sorta ticked that the plan was changed :l.. But if i dont die, i dont want to vote for DC cause i want to actually help the town by voting Pandain .. Wasnt it planned that DC was going to die according to Node or was it disproved? DC was protted last night. Node says NB is dying tonight. | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote: busing coagulation as in they're voting for him cause they dont care if he dies oh, what in f- i read the secret mafia vote under pandain somehow >_____> | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote: almost 99% of kthez's posts have been in the last day phase (when a mafia just happened to have been caught) and were mostly concerned with changing the lynch from coagulation to pandain we should lynch him tomorrow why does that make him suspicious again? there were several people advocating for changing the lynch to pandain iirc if there are specific posts which look scummy in that duration, mind highlighting them for me? | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:04 DCLXVI wrote: Well that sucks. Apparently people wanted their results today instead of waiting until tomorrow for double the benefit, but sure. So I am not a usual mad hatter, I am a crazy mad hatter in that my downside is I commit suicide tonight (and none one else dies). So if the doctor who saved me last night wants to help me out again that would be great, but I think protecting our DT (IS) might be a bit more important since I only have one bomb now. If my plan was voted for I would have said something about how I was vulnerable tonight to try to get doc protection or get hit by mafia, but w/e. Good luck town, and take a good hard look at which plans people supported today and for what reason. I think you can find several mafia just from looking at the voting today. I'm not a highly valuable DT, since my check is RNG'd. We have something on the order of 18 blues, 6 reds remaining, so once again my check is a 1 in 4 thing (which means on average I'll find another red on night 6). Medics, please don't waste your prot on me unless you have an excellent reason. | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: we went from having a sure red target to a big split bandwagon. you don't think mafia were involved in that? the fact that literally all of kthez's impactful posts have been in that regard makes him suspicious to me. actually, that's pretty darned true to be fair, i'll note that you and some others (Ace? i can't even remember) advocated lynching pandain too... but i will agree that it's especially odd that kthez didn't come in actively until i found coag | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:16 LunarDestiny wrote: I think if a DT check Pandain and he is blue. The dt should claim. This would save us one lynch (on pandain) and we will then know that Pandain was telling the truth. Then Pandain's claim on infinitestory and Nemesis is blue is also true. Pandain's night 3 alignment check is also true. *and we also get the DT's night 1 and night 2 checks but that's only provided DT and Pandain are both telling the truth | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote: anyway infinitestory is now my #1 suspect but I need to read through his posts to confirm that umm, care to explain why? | ||
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On November 06 2010 10:18 LunarDestiny wrote: I missed that night post. Where was it? bottom of page 155 it says that Lexpar's role is Careful Doctor, which will die if he protects a red Lexpar stated that if he died night 1, then DrH is red... which means Lexpar probably protected DrH and survived | ||
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