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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 02 2010 23:57 GMT
#2281
On November 03 2010 08:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 08:50 Nemesis wrote:
On November 03 2010 08:45 Coagulation wrote:
also im wondering exactly how many blues are you allowed to lynch before its justifiable for us to question you?

is there a number?


I would say that if DrH fails to confirm himself this night phase.

This is the part where I say "I told you so"

And the part where I go batshit crazy. Seriously, we don't fucking lynch FOR BAD TOWNIE PLAY, WE LYNCH FOR SCUM PLAY. It was pretty obvious that aeres did the former.

So I really want to lynch the people who started the bandwagon now, but I guess it will have to wait until next day phase.

i interpreted it as scum play

his gambit didn't really make sense as it described it but I suppose he just didn't think it through and acted on impulse. it made him look scummy to me and unlike others in the bandwagon I was the only one who bothered to explain why I thought he was scum rather then just yelling LYNCH ALL LIARS over and over again.


On November 03 2010 06:06 Pandain wrote:
Alright, let me put this plainly.

There is no reason Aeres would lie if mafia. If Aeres was mafia, then the only reason he would fake claim bodyguard is if mafia wanted to kill DXCII and Dr. H. But, as we see, neither of those died.
So there is no reason Aeres would fake claim bodyguard if he was mafia.

If he was town, however, Aeres would discourage mafia from shooting mayor(if Dr. H wasn't :p), and even himself because he roleclaimed the hiding role.


Aeres is not mafia.

Unfortunately I have a time limit on the amount of time I can play so I can't respond to your post as of now :/ .

Expect it tommorow
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 00:00 GMT
#2282
aeres couldn't have discouraged mafia from shooting me, because as soon as the real bodyguard dies it's obvious that his roleclaim was fake, and he admitted it almost immediately

if annul didn't die then he wouldn't have succeeded in throwing hits off of annul/DC either because his claim focused on the fact that hits on him would fail giving the mafia 0 incentive to hit him in the first place. it isn't a sensible play as town at all. tell me how it is instead of just being vague and explaining nothing all the time
RIP Aaliyah
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 03 2010 00:00 GMT
#2283
Sorry town. I was 40 mins too late. Good luck!
Whaaaa?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 03 2010 00:04 GMT
#2284
i think if anyone is painted red by the aeres lynch its youngminii he was the very first to throw around "LAL" and "lynch first ask questions later" with zero reasoning.

unless something significant happens overnight im gonna be watching youngminni closely.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 00:05 GMT
#2285
On November 03 2010 09:04 Coagulation wrote:
i think if anyone is painted red by the aeres lynch its youngminii he was the very first to throw around "LAL" and "lynch first ask questions later" with zero reasoning.

unless something significant happens overnight im gonna be watching youngminni closely.


I agree actually. As far as how I feel about this lynch I'm incredibly wary of YM and Aeres.

I'm more afraid than ever that youngminii is a judas role.
RIP Aaliyah
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 03 2010 00:06 GMT
#2286
On November 03 2010 09:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 09:04 Coagulation wrote:
i think if anyone is painted red by the aeres lynch its youngminii he was the very first to throw around "LAL" and "lynch first ask questions later" with zero reasoning.

unless something significant happens overnight im gonna be watching youngminni closely.


I agree actually. As far as how I feel about this lynch I'm incredibly wary of YM and Aeres.

I'm more afraid than ever that youngminii is a judas role.


Judas = ?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 00:07 GMT
#2287
On November 03 2010 09:06 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 09:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 03 2010 09:04 Coagulation wrote:
i think if anyone is painted red by the aeres lynch its youngminii he was the very first to throw around "LAL" and "lynch first ask questions later" with zero reasoning.

unless something significant happens overnight im gonna be watching youngminni closely.


I agree actually. As far as how I feel about this lynch I'm incredibly wary of YM and Aeres.

I'm more afraid than ever that youngminii is a judas role.


Judas = ?

judas is a town role that becomes mafia when lynched, it is in opposition to saulus that is mafia and becomes town when lynched

the other role I know that avoids its first lynch is "unlynchable"
RIP Aaliyah
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 03 2010 00:11 GMT
#2288
On November 03 2010 09:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 09:06 deconduo wrote:
On November 03 2010 09:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 03 2010 09:04 Coagulation wrote:
i think if anyone is painted red by the aeres lynch its youngminii he was the very first to throw around "LAL" and "lynch first ask questions later" with zero reasoning.

unless something significant happens overnight im gonna be watching youngminni closely.


I agree actually. As far as how I feel about this lynch I'm incredibly wary of YM and Aeres.

I'm more afraid than ever that youngminii is a judas role.


Judas = ?

judas is a town role that becomes mafia when lynched, it is in opposition to saulus that is mafia and becomes town when lynched

the other role I know that avoids its first lynch is "unlynchable"


I agree with you there Coag, youngminii and Ace definitely look fairly suspicious to me now. They pushed really hard to support LAL and get rid of him. On the upside, he did not lie about his Cruiseship Captain role, which was pretty much a self-preservation role, so we didn't lose anything TOO detrimental to the town.

@Dr.H: At least Judas isn't as dangerous to the town as Saulus is to the Mafia. Since there aren't PMs, I'm not sure he can tell them anything they don't already know.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 03 2010 00:12 GMT
#2289
he could just be unlynchable or something unrelated that avoids lynch or a pardoner of some sort acted on him

there are a lot of possibilities
RIP Aaliyah
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 03 2010 00:12 GMT
#2290
On November 03 2010 09:04 Coagulation wrote:
i think if anyone is painted red by the aeres lynch its youngminii he was the very first to throw around "LAL" and "lynch first ask questions later" with zero reasoning.

unless something significant happens overnight im gonna be watching youngminni closely.

I don't agree...

Youngminii claimed soon after Fishball's death that he is the newest added member to the circle. Fishball's post also hinted that youngminii is possibly the newest member given youngminii's unwillingness to release he role.
On November 02 2010 14:17 Fishball wrote:
One last update before I go to sleep.

- We have 4 members in the circle now, including myself. We all know who each other are.
- 2 members have role claimed to me, which includes the new member.
- The last member finally replied, and have refused to role claim to me for now, explaining that he wants to play it safe for a while.

Good night.


My conclusion is that Youngminii is the new member in the circle (the other two members of the circle can decide if they want to step up and prove Youngminii is indeed the newest member.

I don't think the mod would be that evil and give the circle a mafia member after half of their circle got modkilled.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 03 2010 00:15 GMT
#2291
On November 03 2010 09:12 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 09:04 Coagulation wrote:
i think if anyone is painted red by the aeres lynch its youngminii he was the very first to throw around "LAL" and "lynch first ask questions later" with zero reasoning.

unless something significant happens overnight im gonna be watching youngminni closely.

I don't agree...

Youngminii claimed soon after Fishball's death that he is the newest added member to the circle. Fishball's post also hinted that youngminii is possibly the newest member given youngminii's unwillingness to release he role.
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 14:17 Fishball wrote:
One last update before I go to sleep.

- We have 4 members in the circle now, including myself. We all know who each other are.
- 2 members have role claimed to me, which includes the new member.
- The last member finally replied, and have refused to role claim to me for now, explaining that he wants to play it safe for a while.

Good night.


My conclusion is that Youngminii is the new member in the circle (the other two members of the circle can decide if they want to step up and prove Youngminii is indeed the newest member.

I don't think the mod would be that evil and give the circle a mafia member after half of their circle got modkilled.


Well we don't know that the mods selected someone to be in the circle. It very well could have been RNG.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
November 03 2010 00:16 GMT
#2292
Here are some theories also. Rolebloker targetted Dr.H we assume, right? Dr.H is immune to M-rus. Mafia has a now dead PD. I think mafia is very conservative in their actions for fear of the virus. Which makes me think that town is likely to have a virus spreading role if they found some unprecedented infected.

I suggest a medic considers dr. h as a target, since he is immune and becoming a clearer townie day by day.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 03 2010 00:17 GMT
#2293
its my understanding that FISHBALL asked for them to put a new member in the circle.. I wouldnt be suprised if artanis is that twisted.

also its possible he would be motivated to fulfill his request with a red based on the fact that a red was modkilled from the circle already and it could have been the only red in the circle. it makes sense from a balance standpoint if the red that was modkilled was the only one in the circle.. that a requested new member be a red.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 03 2010 00:17 GMT
#2294
On November 03 2010 09:16 bumatlarge wrote:
Here are some theories also. Rolebloker targetted Dr.H we assume, right? Dr.H is immune to M-rus. Mafia has a now dead PD. I think mafia is very conservative in their actions for fear of the virus. Which makes me think that town is likely to have a virus spreading role if they found some unprecedented infected.

I suggest a medic considers dr. h as a target, since he is immune and becoming a clearer townie day by day.


I wouldn't necessarily say he's a clear cut townie, I would still feel a lot more comfortable if it is proven. However, I don't feel as worried about him being red as I do others.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 03 2010 00:19 GMT
#2295
if not RNG like jcarl said
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
November 03 2010 00:21 GMT
#2296
On November 03 2010 09:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 09:12 LunarDestiny wrote:
On November 03 2010 09:04 Coagulation wrote:
i think if anyone is painted red by the aeres lynch its youngminii he was the very first to throw around "LAL" and "lynch first ask questions later" with zero reasoning.

unless something significant happens overnight im gonna be watching youngminni closely.

I don't agree...

Youngminii claimed soon after Fishball's death that he is the newest added member to the circle. Fishball's post also hinted that youngminii is possibly the newest member given youngminii's unwillingness to release he role.
On November 02 2010 14:17 Fishball wrote:
One last update before I go to sleep.

- We have 4 members in the circle now, including myself. We all know who each other are.
- 2 members have role claimed to me, which includes the new member.
- The last member finally replied, and have refused to role claim to me for now, explaining that he wants to play it safe for a while.

Good night.


My conclusion is that Youngminii is the new member in the circle (the other two members of the circle can decide if they want to step up and prove Youngminii is indeed the newest member.

I don't think the mod would be that evil and give the circle a mafia member after half of their circle got modkilled.


Well we don't know that the mods selected someone to be in the circle. It very well could have been RNG.

Well, using RNG seems more reasonable. Also look at how Artanis phrase the adding of the new player. He is describing it as a balancing issue. So what is his definition of balance?
4 blue or 3 blue 1 red (assuming orglove is the only mafia originally in the circle)

On November 02 2010 13:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Due to the modkills, a PM network was severely damaged. For balance reasons, one player has been added.

Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
November 03 2010 00:21 GMT
#2297
On November 03 2010 09:16 bumatlarge wrote:
Here are some theories also. Rolebloker targetted Dr.H we assume, right? Dr.H is immune to M-rus. Mafia has a now dead PD. I think mafia is very conservative in their actions for fear of the virus. Which makes me think that town is likely to have a virus spreading role if they found some unprecedented infected.

I suggest a medic considers dr. h as a target, since he is immune and becoming a clearer townie day by day.

M-rus spreads whenever someone infected visits someone uninfected during the night. Other than that maybe mafia has a role that can spread it.

As for the night phase, I think I want to talk about medic's best target for this night:
1. DoctorH - He just lost his only bodyguard
2. DCLXVI - Even if node is lying about his role, mafia has to target DC or else node is lynched.
3. Node - If node is not lying about his role, that is a big benefit for town. That is 1 less kill point for mafia as long as node stays alive.
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KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
November 03 2010 00:22 GMT
#2298
Holy crap, I just noticed there were entire posts devoted to me. I'll come out as part of the shattered circle fishball was head of, and that youngminii was indeed added to our circle.

The only way I can now communicate is through this topic, I suppose.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 03 2010 00:23 GMT
#2299
On November 03 2010 09:21 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 09:15 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 03 2010 09:12 LunarDestiny wrote:
On November 03 2010 09:04 Coagulation wrote:
i think if anyone is painted red by the aeres lynch its youngminii he was the very first to throw around "LAL" and "lynch first ask questions later" with zero reasoning.

unless something significant happens overnight im gonna be watching youngminni closely.

I don't agree...

Youngminii claimed soon after Fishball's death that he is the newest added member to the circle. Fishball's post also hinted that youngminii is possibly the newest member given youngminii's unwillingness to release he role.
On November 02 2010 14:17 Fishball wrote:
One last update before I go to sleep.

- We have 4 members in the circle now, including myself. We all know who each other are.
- 2 members have role claimed to me, which includes the new member.
- The last member finally replied, and have refused to role claim to me for now, explaining that he wants to play it safe for a while.

Good night.


My conclusion is that Youngminii is the new member in the circle (the other two members of the circle can decide if they want to step up and prove Youngminii is indeed the newest member.

I don't think the mod would be that evil and give the circle a mafia member after half of their circle got modkilled.


Well we don't know that the mods selected someone to be in the circle. It very well could have been RNG.

Well, using RNG seems more reasonable. Also look at how Artanis phrase the adding of the new player. He is describing it as a balancing issue. So what is his definition of balance?
4 blue or 3 blue 1 red (assuming orglove is the only mafia originally in the circle)

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 13:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Due to the modkills, a PM network was severely damaged. For balance reasons, one player has been added.



orgolove wasnt mafia i dont think.
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
November 03 2010 00:23 GMT
#2300
The only reason I dislike posting is cause i hate having dumb questions, just like kids who raise their hand in class only to be laughed down (cause of their dumb questions)
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