EPTOn October 15 2010 01:37 deconduo wrote:
Don't forget that the vamps might have more than one brute.
Don't forget that the vamps might have more than one brute.
True. But the fact that one is gone is a HUGE deal, regardless if there is another.
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
True. But the fact that one is gone is a HUGE deal, regardless if there is another. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On October 15 2010 01:37 deconduo wrote: Don't forget that the vamps might have more than one brute. HIGHLY unlikely. One Brute is more than enough. | ||
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Thegilaboy
United States2018 Posts
On October 15 2010 01:37 deconduo wrote: Don't forget that the vamps might have more than one brute. Multiple brutes would be insanely dangerous later in the game, I doubt that there is more than one of them | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On October 15 2010 00:41 BrownBear wrote: I don't think anyone has claimed yet, but it's something y'all should remember. aaaaaaand On October 14 2010 14:20 orgolove wrote: In fact, the ghost did -not- save you. And none of the reds attacked you. Quit your posing. i think orgo is claiming either ghost (maybe boogeyman and that aztrorisk is a frankenstein?) or that he got saved himself | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On October 14 2010 19:04 orgolove wrote: How do you know you are poisoned? As far as the rules go, the mod never informs you if you're poisoned - only if you die of the poison. DrH can confirm this. The poisoning ability can be thought of as a delayed hit... you are unaware if you are poisoned and a ghost will only save someone on the night they will die, so a ghost needs to protect someone the night after they were poisoned in order to save them. | ||
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jaminz
United States208 Posts
Hey Dr. H, can you replace d3_crescentia with ghrur in the list on the front page? Thanks Post Count, as of page 79 Note: These numbers may be slightly off due to the search function not always displaying exactly how many posts a person has per thread. I checked a few times f, and these were the numbers I found. Players with + Show Spoiler + 1. deconduo 9 2. ghrur 1 (new player, replaced d3_crescentia) 3. coagulation 106 4. jodogohoo 46 5. orgolove 101 6. pandain 37 7. southrawrea 8 8. Divinek 11 (new player, replaced CKSide) 9. KtheZ 19 10. oddo123 12 11. 12. quickstriker 14 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) 14. michaelthe 0 new player, replaced kitaman27) 15. zerroth 0 16. 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 18. YummyBlaBla 19 19. BrownBear 3 (new player, replaced kuja900) 20. Lexpar 21 21. ~OpZ~ 4 22. SiNiquity 7 23. jaminz 16 (17 if you include this one) 24. Lucktar 5 25. AirbladeOrange 4 (didn't have forum access until late) 26. 27. kenpachi 1 28. 29. HeavOnEarth 1 30. kingjames01 8 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 32. ZaplinG 0 (new player, replaced goldfishs) 33. Flicky 3 34. Artanis[Xp] 1 (new player, replaced Zeraghul) 35. chesshaha 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 36. KhrisKruel 12 (didn't have forum access until late) 37. spydR 18 38. Hyperbola 3 39. MetalFace 6 40. l0st_romantic 2 41. Aeres 14 42. ShmotZ 24 43. Hittegods 1 44. Veldril 25 45. grandmoose 2 46. LastArgument 6 47. jcarlsoniv 62 48. annul 37 49. Iankill 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 50. seRaPh 65 51. aztrorisk 98 52. Glasse 42 53. glurio 1 (new player, replaced Bill Murray) 54. 55. Kpyolysis32 43 56. Nemesis 15 57. Yogy 1 58. Node 5 (didn't have forum access until late) 59. 60. thegilaboy 32 61. CubEdIn 36 In order from most posts to least: + Show Spoiler + 3. coagulation 106 5. orgolove 101 51. aztrorisk 98 16. 50. seRaPh 65 47. jcarlsoniv 62 28. 4. jodogohoo 46 55. Kpyolysis32 43 52. Glasse 42 48. annul 37 6. pandain 37 61. CubEdIn 36 60. thegilaboy 32 54. 44. Veldril 25 42. ShmotZ 24 20. Lexpar 21 9. KtheZ 19 18. YummyBlaBla 19 23. jaminz 16 (17 if you include this one) 37. spydR 18 11. 56. Nemesis 15 41. Aeres 14 12. quickstriker 14 8. Divinek 11 (new player, replaced CKSide) 36. KhrisKruel 12 (didn't have forum access until late) 10. oddo123 12 1. deconduo 9 30. kingjames01 8 7. southrawrea 8 22. SiNiquity 7 46. LastArgument 6 39. MetalFace 6 24. Lucktar 5 26. 58. Node 5 (didn't have forum access until late) 25. AirbladeOrange 4 (didn't have forum access until late) 21. ~OpZ~ 4 19. BrownBear 3 (new player, replaced kuja900) 33. Flicky 3 38. Hyperbola 3 45. grandmoose 2 40. l0st_romantic 2 59. 34. Artanis[Xp] 1 (new player, replaced Zeraghul) 2. ghrur 1 (new player, replaced d3_crescentia) 53. glurio 1 (new player, replaced Bill Murray) 29. HeavOnEarth 1 43. Hittegods 1 27. kenpachi 1 57. Yogy 1 35. chesshaha 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 49. Iankill 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 14. michaelthe 0 new player, replaced kitaman27) 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) 32. ZaplinG 0 (new player, replaced goldfishs) 15. zerroth 0 Top Posters: + Show Spoiler + 3. coagulation 106 5. orgolove 101 51. aztrorisk 98 16. 50. seRaPh 65 47. jcarlsoniv 62 28. Players with 0 posts but who have voted: + Show Spoiler + 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) It seems to me that the 3 people who have voted but have no posts are pretty suspicious. We should look at them more closely. | ||
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zerroth
Canada173 Posts
That is really bad because your posts are inaccurate really inaccurate i atleast have 10 posts in this thread | ||
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jaminz
United States208 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On October 15 2010 02:42 zerroth wrote: @jaminz That is really bad because your posts are inaccurate really inaccurate i atleast have 10 posts in this thread You have 9 posts, including what I quote in this thread  | ||
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jaminz
United States208 Posts
Post Count, as of page 79 Note: These numbers may be slightly off due to the search function not always displaying exactly how many posts a person has per thread (this is usually only off if a person has a very high number of posts in the thread). I checked a few times, and these were the numbers I found. Players with + Show Spoiler + 1. deconduo 9 2. ghrur 1 (new player, replaced d3_crescentia) 3. coagulation 106 4. jodogohoo 46 5. orgolove 101 6. pandain 37 7. southrawrea 8 8. Divinek 11 (new player, replaced CKSide) 9. KtheZ 19 10. oddo123 12 11. 12. quickstriker 14 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) 14. michaelthe 0 new player, replaced kitaman27) 15. zerroth 9 16. 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 18. YummyBlaBla 19 19. BrownBear 3 (new player, replaced kuja900) 20. Lexpar 21 21. ~OpZ~ 4 22. SiNiquity 7 23. jaminz 16 (17 if you include this one) 24. Lucktar 5 25. AirbladeOrange 4 (didn't have forum access until late) 26. 27. kenpachi 1 28. 29. HeavOnEarth 1 30. kingjames01 8 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 32. ZaplinG 0 (new player, replaced goldfishs) 33. Flicky 3 34. Artanis[Xp] 1 (new player, replaced Zeraghul) 35. chesshaha 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 36. KhrisKruel 12 (didn't have forum access until late) 37. spydR 18 38. Hyperbola 3 39. MetalFace 6 40. l0st_romantic 2 41. Aeres 14 42. ShmotZ 24 43. Hittegods 1 44. Veldril 25 45. grandmoose 2 46. LastArgument 6 47. jcarlsoniv 62 48. annul 37 49. Iankill 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 50. seRaPh 65 51. aztrorisk 98 52. Glasse 42 53. glurio 1 (new player, replaced Bill Murray) 54. 55. Kpyolysis32 43 56. Nemesis 15 57. Yogy 1 58. Node 5 (didn't have forum access until late) 59. 60. thegilaboy 32 61. CubEdIn 36 In order from most posts to least: + Show Spoiler + 3. coagulation 106 5. orgolove 101 51. aztrorisk 98 16. 50. seRaPh 65 47. jcarlsoniv 62 28. 4. jodogohoo 46 55. Kpyolysis32 43 52. Glasse 42 48. annul 37 6. pandain 37 61. CubEdIn 36 60. thegilaboy 32 54. 44. Veldril 25 42. ShmotZ 24 20. Lexpar 21 9. KtheZ 19 18. YummyBlaBla 19 23. jaminz 16 (17 if you include this one) 37. spydR 18 11. 56. Nemesis 15 41. Aeres 14 12. quickstriker 14 8. Divinek 11 (new player, replaced CKSide) 36. KhrisKruel 12 (didn't have forum access until late) 10. oddo123 12 1. deconduo 9 15. zerroth 9 30. kingjames01 8 7. southrawrea 8 22. SiNiquity 7 46. LastArgument 6 39. MetalFace 6 24. Lucktar 5 26. 58. Node 5 (didn't have forum access until late) 25. AirbladeOrange 4 (didn't have forum access until late) 21. ~OpZ~ 4 19. BrownBear 3 (new player, replaced kuja900) 33. Flicky 3 38. Hyperbola 3 45. grandmoose 2 40. l0st_romantic 2 59. 34. Artanis[Xp] 1 (new player, replaced Zeraghul) 2. ghrur 1 (new player, replaced d3_crescentia) 53. glurio 1 (new player, replaced Bill Murray) 29. HeavOnEarth 1 43. Hittegods 1 27. kenpachi 1 57. Yogy 1 35. chesshaha 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 49. Iankill 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 14. michaelthe 0 new player, replaced kitaman27) 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) 32. ZaplinG 0 (new player, replaced goldfishs) Top Posters: + Show Spoiler + 3. coagulation 106 5. orgolove 101 51. aztrorisk 98 16. 50. seRaPh 65 47. jcarlsoniv 62 28. Players with 0 posts but who have voted: + Show Spoiler + 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
On October 14 2010 18:44 Veldril wrote: For point 1-2, it just a possibilities. No one knows am I poisoned or protected or not. If I'm poison then only Vampires know, if I'm protected only ghost who protected me knows. You were definitely not protected as you didn't seem to know that people who were protected get pmed. On October 14 2010 13:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If someone is hit and survived I will PM them with that information. If a ghost successfully saves someone I will also PM them. It's just not public information. Also, why would the ghost protect you? Stop trying to defend yourself as you are just digging yourself a deeper grave. Just be happy that people are considering not killing you today and save you for some other day. Now to focus on the issue at hand. Among the inactive ones, I am really suspicious of kingjames and HeavOnEarth. Kingjames01 + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2010 05:10 kingjames01 wrote: I don't agree with the post you made in the Voting Thread. You seem to know something about Veldril and you're trying to bail him out. Is he going to be your Godfather/Count? Is that why you think he should be DT checked? With all of the posts that you two have made it seems very likely that you're trying to take control of the game. I think that you two are allied and that you're most likely Red and that you're trying to fool us all. You even just sent me a PM trying to fish for my role. Everyone, we don't have much time. Think about how Bill Murray has been pressuring us this whole game. Think about Veldril's shallow defence. Consider if they were Red and if their behaviour is consistent with that idea. We need to, as a town, come to a consensus and vote one of these two off. If one is Red, then the other will be. He really seems to want to kill Veldril or maybe just steer the vote away from Masq. HeavOnEarth on the otherhand only has 1 post and all that is is quoting BM and supporting him. I think that for now I'll vote HeavOnEarth. I am also considering voting on glurio as it would reveal BM's alignment and give us a lot of information instead of just speculating which side he is on, but I kind of feel sorry for him as we are condemning him for what BM did. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On October 15 2010 03:15 Nemesis wrote: You were definitely not protected as you didn't seem to know that people who were protected get pmed. Also, why would the ghost protect you? Stop trying to defend yourself as you are just digging yourself a deeper grave. Just be happy that people are considering not killing you today and save you for some other day. Oh, I really skipped that part = =. My bad, sorry. Please skip point 1 then. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On October 15 2010 02:57 jaminz wrote: I did a quick runthrough again, and didn't see any other mistakes, though there definitely may be some. So sorry for the mistake zerroth. Here's the updated list: Post Count, as of page 79 Note: These numbers may be slightly off due to the search function not always displaying exactly how many posts a person has per thread (this is usually only off if a person has a very high number of posts in the thread). I checked a few times, and these were the numbers I found. Players with + Show Spoiler + 1. deconduo 9 2. ghrur 1 (new player, replaced d3_crescentia) 3. coagulation 106 4. jodogohoo 46 5. orgolove 101 6. pandain 37 7. southrawrea 8 8. Divinek 11 (new player, replaced CKSide) 9. KtheZ 19 10. oddo123 12 11. 12. quickstriker 14 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) 14. michaelthe 0 new player, replaced kitaman27) 15. zerroth 9 16. 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 18. YummyBlaBla 19 19. BrownBear 3 (new player, replaced kuja900) 20. Lexpar 21 21. ~OpZ~ 4 22. SiNiquity 7 23. jaminz 16 (17 if you include this one) 24. Lucktar 5 25. AirbladeOrange 4 (didn't have forum access until late) 26. 27. kenpachi 1 28. 29. HeavOnEarth 1 30. kingjames01 8 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 32. ZaplinG 0 (new player, replaced goldfishs) 33. Flicky 3 34. Artanis[Xp] 1 (new player, replaced Zeraghul) 35. chesshaha 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 36. KhrisKruel 12 (didn't have forum access until late) 37. spydR 18 38. Hyperbola 3 39. MetalFace 6 40. l0st_romantic 2 41. Aeres 14 42. ShmotZ 24 43. Hittegods 1 44. Veldril 25 45. grandmoose 2 46. LastArgument 6 47. jcarlsoniv 62 48. annul 37 49. Iankill 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 50. seRaPh 65 51. aztrorisk 98 52. Glasse 42 53. glurio 1 (new player, replaced Bill Murray) 54. 55. Kpyolysis32 43 56. Nemesis 15 57. Yogy 1 58. Node 5 (didn't have forum access until late) 59. 60. thegilaboy 32 61. CubEdIn 36 In order from most posts to least: + Show Spoiler + 3. coagulation 106 5. orgolove 101 51. aztrorisk 98 16. 50. seRaPh 65 47. jcarlsoniv 62 28. 4. jodogohoo 46 55. Kpyolysis32 43 52. Glasse 42 48. annul 37 6. pandain 37 61. CubEdIn 36 60. thegilaboy 32 54. 44. Veldril 25 42. ShmotZ 24 20. Lexpar 21 9. KtheZ 19 18. YummyBlaBla 19 23. jaminz 16 (17 if you include this one) 37. spydR 18 11. 56. Nemesis 15 41. Aeres 14 12. quickstriker 14 8. Divinek 11 (new player, replaced CKSide) 36. KhrisKruel 12 (didn't have forum access until late) 10. oddo123 12 1. deconduo 9 15. zerroth 9 30. kingjames01 8 7. southrawrea 8 22. SiNiquity 7 46. LastArgument 6 39. MetalFace 6 24. Lucktar 5 26. 58. Node 5 (didn't have forum access until late) 25. AirbladeOrange 4 (didn't have forum access until late) 21. ~OpZ~ 4 19. BrownBear 3 (new player, replaced kuja900) 33. Flicky 3 38. Hyperbola 3 45. grandmoose 2 40. l0st_romantic 2 59. 34. Artanis[Xp] 1 (new player, replaced Zeraghul) 2. ghrur 1 (new player, replaced d3_crescentia) 53. glurio 1 (new player, replaced Bill Murray) 29. HeavOnEarth 1 43. Hittegods 1 27. kenpachi 1 57. Yogy 1 35. chesshaha 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 49. Iankill 0 (didn't have forum access until late) 14. michaelthe 0 new player, replaced kitaman27) 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) 32. ZaplinG 0 (new player, replaced goldfishs) Top Posters: + Show Spoiler + 3. coagulation 106 5. orgolove 101 51. aztrorisk 98 16. 50. seRaPh 65 47. jcarlsoniv 62 28. Players with 0 posts but who have voted: + Show Spoiler + 31. Neos 0 (but has voted twice) 17. TheMunkey 0 (but has voted once) 13. Therick 0 (but has voted twice) Fyi, I wasn't replaced. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On October 15 2010 02:52 Veldril wrote: You have 9 posts, including what I quote in this thread And this matters how? | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
Well, it doesn't matter that much. Just want to point out that he seems to think he posted more than he did. Also, it's 1AM in Thailand (12AM at that time), so I'm quite sleepy and act before posting. Apologize if it's spam the thread. However, I do appreciate jaminz for keeping the post count going because I tried to do once but the search function seems not to show me correct post count in each thread. So to make sure, he might need to go through each page to count a person's post count. Multiply by 50 and it's going to be really hard. So please don't criticize the post count too harsh. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On October 15 2010 03:36 Veldril wrote: Well, it doesn't matter that much. Just want to point out that he seems to think he posted more than he did. Also, it's 1AM in Thailand (12AM at that time), so I'm quite sleepy and act before posting. Apologize if it's spam the thread. However, I do appreciate jaminz for keeping the post count going because I tried to do once but the search function seems not to show me correct post count in each thread. So to make sure, he might need to go through each page to count a person's post count. Multiply by 50 and it's going to be really hard. So please don't criticize the post count too harsh. This is actually a classic example of someone trying to draw attention away from themselves by pointing out errors other people have made. Only problem is, in a lot of cases these errors are very trivial. Does it mean he's scum? Not necessarily, but it's something to add to the growing list of evidence against him. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
Since I'm not much of a clue analyzer an don't think they can be very reliable due to clues oftentimes being accidental or even a red herring, I'm going to focus on behavior analysis. CubEdIn is up first. I took a gist from his posts because a lot of them are in the same spirit. [QUOTE]On October 11 2010 14:57 CubEdIn wrote: [QUOTE]On October 11 2010 14:54 aztrorisk wrote: [quote]I think ShmotZ is a longer shot than Masq. Sure, it is suggestive, but Masq fits it a bit better. There are also a couple other people who have shadowy figures as their picture.[/quote] LOL, a pear indicates a pyscho?!?!? I been looking at other people profile and his is the only one that has a shadowy figure (without a sword and looks immune to bullets) and his picture looks like it can only strangle. + Show Spoiler + On October 12 2010 03:37 CubEdIn wrote: ^ Interesting points off NB. I also noticed that jodogohoo changed votes constantly, was wondering why that is, I didn't really think about the fact that it's ok to go with the flow if you know who NOT to vote for, but if that's the case, it means that everyone he voted for are not from his 'family' (assuming he's either M or V), which brings us back to square one, sort-of. It could also mean that, if all NB saying proves to be true, if Veldril and Masq are in the same team, then jodogohoo is on the other (example: if vel and masq are mafia, jodogohoo is vamp). Basically, as time progresses, I think I'll change my vote not to who I think is more likely to be Mafia or Vampire, but to whom seems to "drag us down" the most. Someone who constantly changes his mind with every few posts may not be so helpful later on. ...I'm still not changing my vote though, not yet. Seems to be agreeing with NB. If he's red, he's likely to be mafia rather than vampire. Calls out jodogohoo for consistently changing his opinion and calls this negatory to the town, which is true. Confusion is always bad. I'm not too sure about the whole voting for who's dragging us down the most instead of Mafia or Vampire though. I am highly suspicious of you after this post. You seem to be nitpicking at Cube's post, but leaving out post which contradicts what you are trying to convey to everyone. He seems to have left out this post purposely. + Show Spoiler + Bold Italic Underline Add image Add link Add spoiler tag Add quote tag Wiki-ize TLPD-ize TSLD-ize un-TLPD-ize Smilies & BBCode Add Poll Upload Image On October 13 2010 07:08 CubEdIn wrote: Yes, I thought about that, but it's a bit of a long shot. I don't think you'll convince many people to vote for Masq on day 2 if Veldril is green. Especially if he's Count/GF and he fakes his role for detective, he might live for the rest of the game. Instead, given Veldril's posts, he would still be suspected even if Masq turns out to be green. More so than vice-versa. My 2 cents. + Show Spoiler + Calls out aztro for being detrimental to town by him asking for protection despite not being very useful to town. This post solidifies CubE as being a townie to me. I really don't see why Veldril would have to be a vamp too just because Masq is one when if it turns out Masq isn't one he's just an overzealous townie? This logic seems very backwards to me. Same goes for the case if he kills Veldril. Using the same logic, Veldril would not vehemently support someone unless he was absolutely sure of his alignment, so Masq would be criminalized by a possible vamp flip as well. Seems very passionate about getting Masq offed. In general mafia games with just one team, this is generally a very scummish thing to say as you already know he won't be mafia, so you have your excuse ready. In this game with three teams however it doesn't ring true as much, and this makes me more hesitant to call CubE out on just this. Pushed his lynch of Masq really hard in day one, but now he's questioning a Veldril lynch after Masq turned up red even though he said he wanted to immediately after day 1? This is very suspicious to me and the most criminalizing post I have found of CubE. Continues to want to wait for the day post which to me is not a good idea since you can get a ton of good behavior analysis done in the night and you may be dead before the next day. Could just be a newbie mistake though. This is just drawing straws. BM PMs everyone during every game to try and get as much info out like a lunatic, which is something he does in every game. For BM, this is nothing out of the ordinary and I wouldn't see it as a scum tell. Definitely far from enough to say 90% M/V. More nitpicking and drawing at straws here just to make it seem likely that Cubedln is likely to be a mafia and then states that he is most likely town to make it seem like he's not really incriminating Cubedln. I don't really get why he's going after Cubedln when there are a lot more suspicious people and his reasoning seems very strange to say the least. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
Is there any reason NOT to lynch Veldril next? | ||
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KhrisKruel
United States146 Posts
On October 14 2010 23:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: I have not been trying to control the blues. I have merely made suggestions about possible targets, and put in my opinions of where blues could go. The mere act of suggesting any possibilities for blues to do actions is attempting to influence the blues. I think that's scummy. If you just gave a list of people you find scummy and townie, I'm sure the blues would use that list against their own and make the best decision without some random person who they don't know if is town or not putting WIFOM on their plate. On October 14 2010 23:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: I never said that I was the person to trust. If people were to claim to me, they would have my trust, but there is no way for anyone to know that unless I am role checked. I am not TRYING to control the blues, I am only saying that having no structure is futile. It's not futile. When blues finally claim later in the game, all the information of their "random" acts will be revealed and we can go from there. It's not as random as you think. The scummy people will get investigated, and townie players will get protected. That's how it works. Attempting to influence their decisions just allows scum to manipulate. On October 14 2010 23:30 jcarlsoniv wrote: The Mafia/Vampire win conditions are to kill all of the enemy faction. They do not win by killing townies. Townies will die, sure. But us dying won't get the M/V any closer to a win. The mafia and vampires are already structured, they know their allies and who they can target. The town is set back extremely by not knowing anything. We are fortunate that we have had this many scum die thus far, but that does not mean we can sit on our asses and hope that a chaotic bumblefuck of townies will win in the end. Even if, as you claim, a structure is not needed until late game, it is difficult to set one up at the blink of an eye. We need to start now. How do we start one up? How can a blue trust each other? The only fail safe method is to post pictures of your pm box. That's cheating. and secondly, everyone got two role pm's. How do you know they aren't showing you the one that is now untrue? There's no way in hell a ghost could possibly trust anyone. Just because they protected someone doesn't mean they are townie, because there are two factions. Also, they could've protected from a vigilante. Detectives are the closest thing to being able to set up some type of safety ring. But they shouldn't do jack until they have investigations. Detectives will trust who they want, not because someone said "hey guys roleclaim to me." If there is a ring of blues going around, it shouldn't be started by people posting in the thread about it. They should do it on their own accord. And they shouldn't listen to what anyone in the thread says about what actions to do. This is the only way to keep scum out of the ring. | ||
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