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I feel this is necessary to bring up to the group. Pandain has PMd me with a message titled "Ultimatum"
Interesting. Well, I'm sorry to say, I must be a creeper then. If the only evidence you have is a DT check, which, sure, is some nice evidence, and you are convinced, go ahead. If you find evidence in my posts damning me to be vampire, then I will be more inclined to believe you. If you do though, it will be a wasted death.
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Original Message From Pandain:
dt check
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Original Message From jcarlsoniv:
Lol, ok, go ahead if you want another lynch like tonight. What possible evidence do you have that I'm vampire?
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Original Message From Pandain:
just vampire.
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Original Message From jcarlsoniv:
...just curious, what are you going to reveal me as.
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Original Message From Pandain:
With vendril dead, I want some info NOW or I'm revealing you asap and let mafia do w/e
I know, obviously I would claim creeper if someone confronted me, right? Well, I assure you that I am a zombie. If people find evidence in my posts that suggests otherwise, please bring it up. I will be a wasted death/kill if I am targeted because of this.
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On October 16 2010 13:17 KhrisKruel wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2010 13:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I feel this is necessary to bring up to the group. Pandain has PMd me with a message titled "Ultimatum"
Interesting. Well, I'm sorry to say, I must be a creeper then. If the only evidence you have is a DT check, which, sure, is some nice evidence, and you are convinced, go ahead. If you find evidence in my posts damning me to be vampire, then I will be more inclined to believe you. If you do though, it will be a wasted death.
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Original Message From Pandain:
dt check
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Original Message From jcarlsoniv:
Lol, ok, go ahead if you want another lynch like tonight. What possible evidence do you have that I'm vampire?
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Original Message From Pandain:
just vampire.
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Original Message From jcarlsoniv:
...just curious, what are you going to reveal me as.
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Original Message From Pandain:
With vendril dead, I want some info NOW or I'm revealing you asap and let mafia do w/e
I know, obviously I would claim creeper if someone confronted me, right? Well, I assure you that I am a zombie. If people find evidence in my posts that suggests otherwise, please bring it up. I will be a wasted death/kill if I am targeted because of this. To be honest jcarl, I think you're a vampire too. You pushed for Veldril when Masq was gaining speed, just like every other flipped vampire. You rarely do any scum finding, while trying to push people to scum find. You suspect people that have flamboyant posting styles, when play styles aren't really indicative of scum or not. You publicly keep asking for blue information. No one is going to give you blue information. That would be suicide on the blue's part. So yes I thought you were a vamp too.
I pushed for Veldril because I thought I was on to something. It is my first game, but I saw some behavior that I thought made sense and I rolled with it. I was wrong.
What do you mean a rarely do scum finding? It has been two days, how many opportunities have there been to find scum? I post analyses of people when I can, and often state who I suspect. The last couple of days have been hectic for me, so I didn't get that much posting done.
I ask for blue information because, thus far, we have known very little. What can a town do without any information? Speculate on ambiguous clue that can be read in many ways. Giving me blue information would not be suicide on the blue's part, but there is obviously no way for them to know that unless the role check me (which apparently Pandain didn't actually do, he's just special, haha).
Go ahead and think I'm vamp, I think you are scum as well.
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So...wait, Pandain, what are you waiting for?
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Jeez, those were quick edits, I refresh like every minute lol.
Wish I saw what was edited :3
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Holy shit, rough night guys. No vampires down, 3 townies, including a ghost, and then a grim reaper mod kill.
Seeing pandain go is very rough. I didn't trust him at first, but then I started to think he had good motives.
In light of pandain's death, I would like to volunteer myself to replace him as a liason of sorts to the blues. If you role claim to me, I can make sure no blues are wasted by doing the same thing. I already know one JoL, and a DT.
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Player above me: Xelin
Picture: BadASS Hulk behind Da Vinci's Man thing
Quote: "Adonai Bless" - Adonai is Hebrew for Lord
Public Profile: + Show Spoiler +If you can dream–and not make dreams your master,
If you can think–and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
Favourite few lines from overused but good poem
A Priest an Irishman and a Bishop walk into a bar. The barman says "What is this, some kind of joke?"
Don't really see any connection to clues just yet.
Posting History: Was subbed in Day 2. Has two posts in this thread, and one vote.
First Post:
+ Show Spoiler +I'm going to start reading over this thread from page 1, currently only browsed about 5 pages related to the *He who shall not be named* funnies and eventual modkill, but nothing else.
From the looks of things there is already a strong consensus on who is being lynched today, if anyone wouldn't mind briefly summarising the reasoning behind Veldril's lynch it would help me out, although I'm going to be going over the thread so will come to it eventually, given the huge number of people voting for him I'd imagine a very strong clue tie or DT check?
Questions the largely unanimous cry for Veldril's lynch. Wants to find out what prompted it because he had yet to read through the thread.
Second Post:
+ Show Spoiler +I'm going to vote Veldril, gotten someway through the thread so far, but about to go to sleep and don't want to miss voting (getting modkilled just as I sub in would be an unwelcome irony )
I have to say though, and this is entirely an "on the surface" evaluation, I'm quite surprised thatthe Veldril lynch is being supported so unanimously, the evidence against him doesn't to me seem warranting of such a strong response, but hey as I say that's mostly just my reaction to reading Pandain's post which has been linked as surmising the arguments against Veldy well.
I'll delve further into reading through the thread when I wake up tomorrow, and expect to have at least skim read it fully by then.
Jumping onto the Veldril bandwagon to avoid an inactive modkilling since he hasn't gotten to read the whole thread. Understandable. Is very surprised by how strong the town was against Veldril with the amount of evidence we had.
All in all, his posts don't seem too scummy, but off of only two posts, it is very difficult to tell.
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Great analysis Nemesis.
Out of all of those candidates, which ones have been the quietest? The ones voting without putting in their opinions are suspect to me.
HeavOnEarth has been very quiet this entire game. He only has two posts in the thread. The first was:
+ Show Spoiler +Wow after reading the thread I am thoroughly convinced we may have a mafia/vampire kill on day 1- Veldril. Nice work spotting him Bill
His second post was him defending himself against Pandain and defending his profile:
+ Show Spoiler +Hey guys. I've been super busy with university work( 2nd year Chemical Engineer), so i've only had time to vote for suspects that were posted in the thread. As for Pandain, i have to point out his analysis of me is completely wrong claims hes thoroughly convinced we MAY have a mafia/vamp. What kind of sentence is that? Also tries to indirectly gain town cred for Bill, who I'm suscipcious of because he always seems scummy to me and the numerous references to drunkeness in the day post. Compare that with his quote: "Sobriety is a sin whose destruction ought be perused without abandon." First off, my quote isn't "Sobriety is a sin whose destruction ought be perused without abandon." as you guys can clearly see for yourselves his album in his profile is by a finnish death metal band. The second song is called "songs of the storm." this is also false, the album picture in my profile, does not have songs of the storm listed This is the image: and the album tracks: http://artists.letssingit.com/insomnium-album-since-the-day-it-all-came-down-92g736you can clearly see that pandain's claims are false. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6621623^ his post for quoting reference Also, he wrongly claimed that jodogohoo was vampire, and you guys followed him with that as well. Clearly, he was not. I don't see why you guys would defend the points of Pandain who has been wrong all game. I know i haven't been active, and im sorry for that, which led to me lynching Veld , but if you want to claim me for that, you might as well lynch half the town, as a large majority of them also voted for veld as well.
He voted for Veldril on both Day 1 and 2.
I think Pandain may have been on to something.
The Artanis clue is really freaking good though. But since he wasn't here on Day 1 when the first clue about the hammer and face crumbling came out, I'm inclined to say it's coincidence. If the Mad Scientist could find out if there is any connection, that would be very good. However, the quote in HeavOnEarth's profile fits the clue just as well, as Nemesis pointed out. "Break every bone in your face If you mess with my life"
For now, I think my vote is going to be for HeavOnEarth.
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On October 19 2010 12:39 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I say the town should vote for Glurio for the simple fact that he replaced Bill Murray. That's how I voted.
That's a pretty dick move, lol.
He could be red, yeah, but he more just got screwed over by BM lashing out. Glurio's posts really haven't pointed me to believe he's scum. Here's to hoping we don't lose another townie though...
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Yup...knew glurio wasn't a red...
We need to get our shit together guys.
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On October 19 2010 13:22 orgolove wrote:
I blame the loss on BM's shitty posting that confused the HELL out of townies from the first day onwards.
I do partially. But I hope everyone realizes that you were the biggest advocate for lynching glurio. You pushed damn hard to get him lynched.
All you've been doing is finger pointing, and it's not helping the town out at all.
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It looks like he was bomb killed. The other three were modkilled.
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On October 19 2010 14:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 14:10 Divinek wrote:On October 19 2010 14:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
It looks like he was bomb killed. The other three were modkilled. it looks like he was modkilled just like jodo but he wanted to let us know who each of the bombs were on Correct.
Ooooooooh ok. Makes sense.
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On October 19 2010 20:41 CubEdIn wrote:
Not that I like saying "i told you so", but I did.
We should start with clues/lurkers, not "the way they act". Obviously, we're either not good enough to figure out who is M/V by the way they post, OR, we've been listening to the wrong people.
Either way, maybe next time try to judge by yourself and not go with the flock. I'm gonna keep my vote on HeavOnEarth until something more solid comes along.
This was a freaking epic-loss night for the town.
We're fucked.
This was only partially a "how they act". It was people freaking out because Bill Murray lashed out, and orgolove pushed for glurio to be lynched. Glurio really gave no proof that he was scum, but people still rolled with it. The scum run this town...
However, 4 of the 5 deaths were from modkills. We've lost way more to inactivity than to good play, which is fucking ridiculous. Don't sign up if you don't plan on playing...it's ruining the game for everyone else.
I mean, if the scum feel happy that town is so weak, cool, congrats. But it's not like they did anything to get there. They aren't playing well, the town is just dying because we lose 3+ people to modkills everyday.
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I completely agree with you Aeres, in every sense of that post.
The modkills are frustrating. It's especially disheartening because it looks like people are just like "Oh, well, I'm a townie, I don't have to do shit, it's no fun not having a role." Well that's hurting the game, and I really hope the people we have left are willing to put the time and effort in to at least try to win it.
Also, we do need some sort of leadership. The whole game has been the town bandwagoning on vague clues and poor behavior. We don't have much information from our blues (or whatever blues we even have left), and the town is scrambling and getting pushed around by the scum. We need to do something, centralize the ideas and information, instead of just letting the scum turn our heads the wrong way.
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Wow, that was a great read.
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Lol thanks for watching me? I guess? Not sure if it really tells you anything though...
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From voting thread:
On October 20 2010 19:50 deconduo wrote:
##Vote HeavOnEarth
First vote of the day. Care to share why deconduo? I'm pretty sick of lurkers.
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On October 22 2010 06:20 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2010 06:19 kitaman27 wrote:On October 22 2010 06:14 Kenpachi wrote:
Damn you guys are so mean
Im not a vamp for all you people to know.
Me voting for Veldril is indeed suspicious but hey i just flipped a coin saying masq/veldril. I had too much catch up to do in the first few days so i said i would wait i got enough attention and here i am, in the last 2 pages, i like my name being said about 20x. :D
I honestly dunno how i would defend my case of not being a vamp but if someone were to support me, halp~
Umm, you aren't allowed to edit..... oh really? well i just added a "to" in the second line 
Doubt it matters. And since Dr.H JUST said the next edit will be a modkill, I certainly hope he follows through. That, and it'll save us a lynch target, and we can pick someone else.
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Right now, I am going to be voting for Metalface. This is based on Khris's very in depth analysis, and the fact that kenpachi is about to (read: should) be modkilled, so there's no need to place my vote on him.
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