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On October 18 2010 02:45 Nemesis wrote: This, I think that I'll go after HeavOnEarth again seeing as he still don't seem to be posting. We need to get rid of the inactive ones or at least force them to post as otherwise they are just dead weight and we also can't analyze their post. I rather consider what people post itself instead of the clues. Imo, posts +clues > posts > clues so I'd play a higher influence of analysis on ghrur than you. So atm, looking into Thegilaboy + annul + MetalFace | ||
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On October 18 2010 06:58 KhrisKruel wrote: I thought the same thing. I checked with DrH though and it's legit. There's also no role that can slip by a boogeyman. So either Pandain was poisoned on night 1 or glasse is lying. It's the only explanations as to how pandain could have died. doesnt that mean that he left and died? Because he left at night and died at night to make the story make sense. If he didn't leave at night, he would have then supposed to die in his bed. | ||
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On October 19 2010 06:31 glurio wrote: Exactly what I'm thinking, I'm all for analysing clues and stuff but, come on. Nah, man. some people have some more intense clue analysis and if this kind of connection comes up so easily, then it's worth a shot. Besides the fact that BM talked the way he did made him suspicious enough to be attacked. You having taken his role leads to your death now. Yeah so i voted to lynch you GLURIO because of how BM acted and a connection to the day 2 murders. | ||
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On October 19 2010 10:42 Nemesis wrote: Grrr it seems that no one is listening to my post about the obvious clue against kingjames01. Well since day phase is ending in around 2 hours, I don't think many people will change their vote now. And it seems like my post is rather getting ignored too. Artanis clue to me seems as obvious as kyplosis clue or whoever is that guy is with the big cat. It seems like an obvious red herring, and I would rather not vote based on a clue that could point to multiple people. I am going to change my vote back to HeavOnEarth as it seems that there's nothing I can do to change people's mind in 2 hours to change their vote from HeavOnEarth, glurio, and Artanis. I feel like the inactive people are REALLY DRAGGING us down. We can get to these guys later. Kingjames afterward day 3 lynch? GLURIO NOW! | ||
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On October 21 2010 08:03 Hittegods wrote: I hope the bandwagoning against "my" clue will start, if you look back at my posting history it should be obvious that I'm town. Also, if annul's DT could check me, I would be proven townie. So please let me live =_= I dunno how you can justify how you are town. Anyway, Bat in your profile and bat killed kingjames. | ||
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On October 22 2010 06:14 Kenpachi wrote: Damn you guys are so mean Im not a vamp for all you people to know. Me voting for Veldril is indeed suspicious but hey i just flipped a coin saying masq/veldril. I had too much catch up to do in the first few days so i said i would wait i got enough attention and here i am, in the last 2 pages, i like my name being said about 20x. :D I honestly dunno how i would defend my case of not being a vamp but if someone were to support me, halp~ Don't believe you. especially since you edited your post, we really dont know what you really edited. Defending yourself as vamp doesnt necessary mean you couldnt be mafia anyway. KENPACHI is on the chopping block | ||
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On October 22 2010 06:39 KhrisKruel wrote: He's not a vampire: Hittegods did not vote for Veldril day 1, when 1 person could swing the vote to veldril or masq. So in my opinion don't vote for hittegods Hittegods voted for Masq at 2000h that day for voting. At that time, there was way too many votes against Masq to even make a difference. Hittegods and other vamps may have been like Masq is a gonner. No point in wasting time. Vote off a fellow vamp and lessen suspicion | ||
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On October 23 2010 01:26 Aeres wrote: And the modkills continue... I suppose I should be grateful for the modkills on Mafia, since it brings town closer to victory... but I don't want a victory based on inactivity. It's just hollow and meaningless if town wins because people don't give a shit about the game. I sincerely hope Qatol is right, and that modkilling is rarely a serious problem, but the way it's fucking up this game for everyone doesn't really give incentive to play, considering more than half of the deaths so far have resulted from the Doc cracking down on people. At this point, I'm just waiting for the game to end, since any chance of a balanced match has been erased by now. I don't care if this game was overly ambitious, I'm still pissed at the blatant lack of shits given so far. =( agree. A lot of blues were modkilled. More blues than greens i think. More reds than green too. Wonder how this game will turn out though. 1 vamp or mafia left and they identify themself? | ||
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On October 24 2010 15:02 kitaman27 wrote: I realize you decided to pass over my strongest defense because you "don't feel like making an analysis of the vote right now", but when on day 3 when I cast my vote against Artanis[xp], the score was 11-11. Explain to me why I would go after him when the voting was so close? As for Masq, if I was vampire, wouldn't it be smart to bandwagon the alternative to Masq early to make it a viable lynch? You say I'm likely scum because there hasn't been someone that I've gone directly after, but isn't that what scum does? Don't they attack everyone to remove suspicion from themselves. If you want to go by clues, then how about the glaring one pointing you you? Is that why you are spending so much time going after me, because I brought up this connection? ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/userfiles/67408.jpg?1286845235) Is that not a flying metal object with claws hanging out of it? If you're town then you must realize all clues can be interpreted more than one way. Now you attack me for having empty posts. Lets look at yours. First off, your initial post isn't until 903 posts in. And my posts are empty? Just because every single post wasn't some page long analysis, doesn't mean that I'm automatically scum. Everyone has some pointless banter, even you. I agree you had a few good posts with the voting analysis and the artanis clue, but every single one of my posts weren't empty either. Using your own logic, based on the clues and posts I should be quite confident you are not town. you say You say I'm likely scum because there hasn't been someone that I've gone directly after, but isn't that what scum does? Don't they attack everyone to remove suspicion from themselves. Arent you just saying you are scum here? You're saying you do that and you're also saying scum does that. So umm, you;re saying you're scum. Also whats with all those quotes you put. They don't even have a name that someone posted. One shows that it's pandians right but the next ones we dont know who those posts belong to. I dont know why you are bring up Artanis here. He's already dead. You say If you want to go by clues, then how about the glaring one pointing you you? Is that why you are spending so much time going after me, because I brought up this connection? Which might mean that you are defending yourself from someone attack your clue connections However you sayingIf you're town then you must realize all clues can be interpreted more than one way. means that the one attacking you has a right to do so and your clue and thinking can be wrong anyway. So you defend yourself, and then you say the other guy is right that he can think about clues different ways. So you admit to what a scum may post like and you admit that you post like a scum And you try to defend yourself but at the same time, admit that you may be wrong | ||
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On October 25 2010 11:23 ghrur wrote: Are you kidding? Heavonearth has been scummy as shit too. Here's my analysis: + Show Spoiler + First note, he's only had like 6 posts this whole thread. Basically, lurking in the background while voting for NON-vampire people. I mean, his votes have been: Day 1 - Veldril (followed BM's analysis... and that's it, no more posts about it) Day 2 - Veldril Day 3 - Glurio Day 4 - Hittegods and switched into Kenpachi ONLY after the bandwagon started to get big on Kenpachi. Day 5 - Kitaman27 (once again, a bandwagon) Guess what, he made the vote AFTER his last post in the thread meaning he hasn't yet posted his justification for this vote. On October 12 2010 19:29 HeavOnEarth wrote: Wow after reading the thread I am thoroughly convinced we may have a mafia/vampire kill on day 1- Veldril. Nice work spotting him Bill + Show Spoiler [veldril's posts] + On October 11 2010 14:46 Veldril wrote: Reporting in. Many victims seems to die by a weapon, maybe most are killed by mafia? Or maybe the vampire mimic the mafia style? However, I'm not sure is this important or not. Also, nice find Glasse. That's really helpful. But maybe we can get more clue from the first night post that make the mafia/vamp more visible. On October 11 2010 15:03 Veldril wrote: Hey, he's killed by a dagger not sword, lol. And if you buy enough knives then you can literally pierce a person at every spot. On October 11 2010 15:08 Veldril wrote: Actually this is from his younger self one. But in this game I would like to be the one in my profile picture more, lol. On October 11 2010 15:11 Veldril wrote: Another thing is that are we too readily to blame Masq for the kill? The evidence is quite obvious but it could be too obvious sometimes. We need to be a little bit more careful about voting. On October 11 2010 15:33 Veldril wrote: I don't have one specific in my mind right now (that's why I don't vote yet). But I have some idea... Firstly, because the Mafia and Vampire knows who are on the same team with them, they would want to deflect the blame if a person in his team is suspected. A person who rashly accuses other person could be a Mafia or a Vampire, especially on Day 1. Note that this is not about presenting suspicious players' profiles. But it's more about looking at only one profile and making an accusation without analysis or with an over-analysis. Secondly, I believe that there's old-school player here so we might be able to check their previous post first before making an accusation. Analyzing the old posts in previous games might become useful if you have time to do it. On October 11 2010 15:40 Veldril wrote: Oh and by Mafia/Vampire deflecting blame in the first point of my previous post is that if they are lucky, they could kill other side too. For Mafia/Vampire, I think they don't care much about who dies in the first couple of days/nights as long as it's not on their side. Townie dies mean they have less choice to make in the next cycle and if they can force townie to vote to kill the other side, then that would make them even have more profit. Oh and I don't say that Masq is surely not a killer. I just think we need to look further for other clues too before accusing him solely. But he's one of the suspects though. (Maybe I need a ghost in the first night  ).On October 12 2010 00:43 Veldril wrote: Oh well, I think I deserve to be suspected for protecting Masq. But let's be clear, I'm suspecting Masq too but I don't want to draw conclusion based solely on the story that the GM wrote. To quote what Dr.H written in the introduction: That means the clue might hurt townie like us too. Now let me response to Bill Murray's post: I like your post here. Yes, I was absolutely did a bad post and deserve to be suspected. But after reading Ver's guide, do you think I would make a same mistake that Misder made in the past? I think not. Could you please clarify how I admitted that I'm a mafia/vampire? Because I defended Masq? I guess your logic is something like this. If someone is a mafia/vampire then that person would defend blame on his team mate. If a person defend other person then those people are teammate. Veldril defend Masq Therefore,Veldril and Masq are team mate. Therefore, Veldril and Masq are vampire. If your logic is like above then I think you have made both formal fallacy and informal fallacy. With an experienced player like you, it is unlikely that you would make such fallacies, unless you ignore them to make an accusation on me with some agendas. Of course, I could be wrong but in that case, could you please clarify why do you think I team up with Masq please? On October 12 2010 00:46 Veldril wrote: Oh and Bill, I concluded that you are experienced player because you participated in many Mafia game before. You even hosted a game. I checked your post history. On October 12 2010 02:12 Veldril wrote: After spending time reading rules, I do agree that miss-lynch on the first day is not a big issue. We have 61 players here, with 22 reds. That we have 39 greens/blues. Considering that mafias and vampires each can kill up to 3 people (or have to kill three people I'm not sure, might need clarification on this), we can say that on the first day plus first night, there will be up to 7 people dead. If all dead are hit at townie, then townie will have 32 player left. And worst case would be 7 of either vampire or mafia are killed (only single side), which I believe is very unlikely. On October 12 2010 03:14 Veldril wrote: Oh yeah, I miscounted and forgot about that. Thanks for a reminder and correction. On October 12 2010 03:50 Veldril wrote: You can accuse me as much as you like. That doesn't refute my point I made earlier about you. Oh and nice about forcing Aztorisk to vote me by publishing the PM. On October 12 2010 04:00 Veldril wrote: type (blue) message (/blue) but replacing () with [] Example: blue green red On October 12 2010 04:07 Veldril wrote: Hmmm, fair enough. You have your points spoken and that's fine for me. Well, maybe I jumped my conclusion that "experienced player = player familiar with logic" so if that's not true then my argument would be unsound. But since we really don't know is it true or not, we could just left it for others to decide. On October 12 2010 04:21 Veldril wrote: Deconduo has posted once. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=159453¤tpage=17#327 On October 12 2010 04:30 Veldril wrote: Ah I see, seems to miss your post. Anyway, off to sleep now since it's night here in Asia. On October 12 2010 19:02 Veldril wrote: It seems most people are out for my blood now. I feel like now when I try to defend or propose something up, most people will come up with even more excuses to vote me. It seems I really made a grudge with Bill Murray, since he's the most vocal to get me killed. I don't really understand why you would want me to get lynched so badly. I would shift a vote off you if you have explain the reason why do you think "defending others" would mean "Red defends Red". Also, I feel that either me or Masq get lynched, it would not be a good situation for Townie or me at all. If Masq get lynched and turn out to be red, people would still suspect me and that could hurt townie since they would spend their focus on me being red and I would still get fried. If Masq turn out to be green, I don't think some people will let me go free without discrediting me, therefore I could not make impact in the future day/night. However, if I get lynched today, it would be a game over. It may seems cowardice but I will have to vote for Masq to save myself. I just wish that Masq indeed turns out to be green. WOW, contributing nothing to the thread! Great, perfect! And supporting the vote for Veldril started by BM! Hmmm, scummy much? It's basically saying, hey, I'll bandwagon to save my friend Masq. + Show Spoiler + On October 18 2010 03:07 HeavOnEarth wrote: Hey guys. I've been super busy with university work( 2nd year Chemical Engineer), so i've only had time to vote for suspects that were posted in the thread. As for Pandain, i have to point out his analysis of me is completely wrong First off, my quote isn't "Sobriety is a sin whose destruction ought be perused without abandon." as you guys can clearly see for yourselves this is also false, the album picture in my profile, does not have songs of the storm listed This is the image: ![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0e/Insomnium_-_Since_the_Day_it_All_Came_Down.jpg) and the album tracks: http://artists.letssingit.com/insomnium-album-since-the-day-it-all-came-down-92g736 you can clearly see that pandain's claims are false. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6621623 ^ his post for quoting reference Also, he wrongly claimed that jodogohoo was vampire, and you guys followed him with that as well. Clearly, he was not. I don't see why you guys would defend the points of Pandain who has been wrong all game. I know i haven't been active, and im sorry for that, which led to me lynching Veld , but if you want to claim me for that, you might as well lynch half the town, as a large majority of them also voted for veld as well. Now look at this. He comes in to defend himself, and then point a finger at a townie Pandain, and then leaves. This doesn't help at all. All it does is protect himself and then cause suspicion and paranoia for the town. On October 21 2010 10:35 HeavOnEarth wrote: Hi, I'm going to be a lot more active now, just finished a shitton of tests Also, i think the hitte clue is pretty solid. As for his voting, look here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6575537 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6575592 Bumatlarge was also vamp. This is called, bussing , i believe. When your ally (vamp) has no chance of living, so you vote him. Bumatlarge did this, and i suspect hittegod did as well. As for artanis, Vampire hit artanis this night (which means they knew he was mafia) So they wouldve obviously tried to lynch him, as to have not wasted a hit. I believe this is a very solid vampire lynch if we lynch hittegods. Here, he's basically advocating for Hittegod's lynch. Guess what, hittegod turned out BLUE! You know what's the great part of being a vampire? You know who's NOT vampire, aka greens, blues, and mafia. Hittegod just turned out to be blue. So let's see, so far, he's supported an accusation of a green (Veldril), accused a green himself (Pandain), and accused a blue himself (Hitte). Well, that's just dandy. He also voted for Veldril Day 1 and Glurio Day 3, both of whom were NOT red. On October 21 2010 11:11 HeavOnEarth wrote: Until we find someone else the baseball bat clue relates to, im inclined to believe he is scum Still supporting the lynch of a blue (Hittegod) On October 21 2010 12:50 HeavOnEarth wrote: I like your plan of publicly claiming blues , as counter intuitive as it seems, vamp/mafia won't go after them. In fact , they will cross them off the list completely, and go after other people which is awesome for the town. One question though, how do you know node isn't Dracula? Or anyone else you checked( i dont remember seeing you have any other confirmed ones) Semi-useful post if people don't think about Dracula at all. I guess it's good as a reminder? On October 21 2010 13:05 HeavOnEarth wrote: This is going to end up with mafia/ or vamp starting a bandwagon unless we- GIVE A REASON FOR VOTING. Just look at last lynch, And the lynch before that. Hahaha, the irony of this.  Look, he says GIVE A REASON FOR VOTING, and what does he do? Not give a reason for voting glurio or kitaman. Oh, this contradiction is quite delicious, don't ya think? And speaking of bandwagons... who always follows the bandwagons that go after blues/greens? Heavonearth. Hmmmmm, interesting. Basically, this dude is scum. He made ONE post, exactly ONE before voting on Veldril the first day. And that post basically said, I'm following BM and that's it. It added no content, and it was a bandwagon. The guy was trying to save his buddy Masq, that's all. Aside from that, he's accused Pandain... and then voted for Glurio. Fact is, he said Pandain was scummy for being wrong all the time, but he never voted for the panda. He NEVER gave a reason for voting Glurio. He just bandwagoned. Then, he voted for Hittegod and had a reason, but never explained why he switched to Kenpachi! This voting without explanation, and votes always seem to be town-aligned players makes him really seem scummy. I say lynch him. =/ Voting for him now. I've already voted for him. Seems like just bandwagoning stuff to stay low. Any way, by you're analysis, he will turn out vamp. That leaves a 4-5 with vamps still have their count dracula. Does vamps also still have a brute or they only had 1? | ||
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On October 26 2010 07:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Since a previous player was modkilled for voting for a dead player (counts as no vote), SouthRawrea the mafia skeleton has been modkilled. Sorry mafia  GUYS THERES ONLY 2 MAFIA LEFT MAFIA PLEASE KILL THE VAMPS AND TOWN WINS :D | ||
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Maybe the mafia should come forward since they can't even win now. Depending on how many ghosts are left, they can protect the mafia. | ||
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Protect me ghosts so i dont suicide myself | ||
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