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On September 09 2010 10:30 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2010 10:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Hey guys, just wanted you all to know I'm inactive already! (j/k, working behind the scenes where we make every one of you VI's) Hehe... speaking of which here are some of my evil diabolical plans if I am ever host. 1. Make everyone Village idiot. 2.Make everyone town. 3. Make everyone traitor. 4.Have 5 dts and everyone else millers. Although I would love to include some of the epicness found in the ##Execute games and Bang bang or w/e. #1!!!!!!
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OOh! A new face! Welcome!
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Wow didn't stalk the post counts thaaat far xD
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Pandain! I'm the Pardoner! If you teach me how to hack people's inbox I'll pardon you!
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Your name reminds me of The Book of Bunny Suicides. Abit less cruel
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On September 20 2010 05:48 drag_ wrote: I see the sign-up list is full, but any chance there might be room for one more? E: Nevermind, think I'll read a few more game before getting involved myself. Plenty of room!
And the best (and funnest) way to learn is by doing! You should join!
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/out sry I don't gotz the time
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I'm subbing for Jee Jee.
Don't expect me to do too much, I got RL making me busy.
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Divinek is being pretty active
Pandian is writing weird stories again. That probably means he's Red or Blue
Bum says he's going on VI watch, that would be something Mafia would like to get recognized as
On October 06 2010 08:21 Bill Murray wrote: At a glance, I see that people have been editing. I am not a fan of that. I see DoctorH is being active. That may or may not be a good thing. I am going to go read the thread and get off the inactive list. I'll make an informed post in a moment... possibly an hour. Could someone tell me a bit more? Then again, DoctorH hasn't played for a while, so maybe his reentry means that he's willing to put in more effort
As for the Newcomers, I haven't read much, but it should be pretty easy to tell if one of them is Green. Are any of them superactive?
Lastly, Someone go Protect/Investigate Xelin. Brownbear just told us straight out that he's Red or Blue
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On October 07 2010 09:54 meeple wrote:By this you imply? Show nested quote + Pandian is writing weird stories again. That probably means he's Red or Blue
Dunno why you say this, other than blue/red excitement about a game... Show nested quote + As for the Newcomers, I haven't read much, but it should be pretty easy to tell if one of them is Green. Are any of them superactive?
infinitestory has been active... but he's also been pretty illogical at times... Show nested quote +Lastly, Someone go Protect/Investigate Xelin. Brownbear just told us straight out that he's Red or Blue Despite what it may seem I doubt that a host would really make that mistake... that's a pretty big fuck up... Divinek: Activity from Divinek is always fairly strange, it's just sending up some strange flags for me. Activity based, Divienk is more of the lurker/bandwagoner type.
Hmm... I see what you mean about Brownbear probably not revealing that to us. Actually I would think that if XelIn/JeeJee/Happy.fairytail/kane]deth[ was blue/red, Brownbear would have them subed the blue/red out first. So its really likely that Brownbear just meant that he didn't want to modkill anyone.
If Xelin turns out to be green, that either means 1) He's Godfather. 2) Brownbear did sub out Fairytail and Kane due to their Blue/Red roles 3) Brownbear used a random number generator.
On October 07 2010 10:02 Pandain wrote:And what does this post do? You repeat stuff, don't give opinion, and speculation. Nothing full of content. And fyi, I always write stories. See: my first game! Um just wondering, uhh why was your name bolded? Miller?
kk, my only other time I remembered you making stories was in RAM.
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On October 07 2010 11:20 kane]deth[ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 10:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 07 2010 10:26 kane]deth[ wrote: I have no idea what to do once again. The more I try to find suspicious people, the more I think everyone is suspicious. I suppose I'll just keep reading and see if anyone really jumps out at me ._. I am pretty sure you were replaced by rebirth of legend So I somehow missed the bolded text saying voting is mandatory. >: I was on the whole time but I didn't realize you had to vote. Sigh Maybe you can beg Brownbear for Xelins role or a second chance? You can always have mine.
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My idea for dealing for Bill Murray. (This is for figuring out if he is red/VI)
Okay, instead of killing him today, we declare that we are going to kill him tomorrow, with a double lynch.
Mafia knows that we will kill Bill tomorrow, if Bill is VI, Mafia will have to kill him tonight or else they will lose. But if Bill is Mafia, mafia can't kill Bill, and we would know that he is red.
This way we get to have mafia waste on of their hits or lose.
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On October 08 2010 04:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Also I need to put pressure on Misder again.
You're not getting away with being inactive this time buddy. Where is the evidence for your original accusations? Why did you fingerpoint and run away? Why did you fingerpoint, call out other players for not backing up their accusations, then go inactive without backing up your accusations?
I might have changed my vote to Xelin for the time being but you're still under fire here. Glad to.
Okay, First of all, I did a quick read through. There is no Opz - Misder connection.
+ Show Spoiler +Then suddenly misder posts this... On October 06 2010 09:22 Misder wrote: Actually, I’m just going to vote ~Opz~ right now instead of XeliN, just because of this tiny suspicion. I don’t know if I truly believe in that he is mafia, but I think he has a better chance at being mafia than XeliN. ... What?
On October 05 2010 13:03 Misder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 12:47 ~OpZ~ wrote: I'd rather you post your suspects now Mr. Misder?
What if mafia slay you at night?
=/ I think I rather wait. First, my suspicions aren't really big; they could be comepletely wrong, and I don't really have strong evidence. Plus, I'm still looking at different play styles from previous games. Second, this way, the mafia doesn't know whether I'm right or wrong, so if they really are scared, they're going to have to kill me If you guys really want, I'll post my suspicions, maybe to generate discussion or something on day 1. Which reminds me, how do we decide which inactive to lynch?
I made this mistake last game, I fingerpointed when I was mafia. The problem was that I didn't have that good of an argument to start off with. I just did a "I'm pretty sure that they are mafia"
Misder, can you elaborate for us who do you think is scummy?
I know you mentioned Infun, but your analysis was shaky and wrong.
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On October 08 2010 06:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 06:13 LSB wrote: My idea for dealing for Bill Murray. (This is for figuring out if he is red/VI)
Okay, instead of killing him today, we declare that we are going to kill him tomorrow, with a double lynch.
Mafia knows that we will kill Bill tomorrow, if Bill is VI, Mafia will have to kill him tonight or else they will lose. But if Bill is Mafia, mafia can't kill Bill, and we would know that he is red.
This way we get to have mafia waste on of their hits or lose. this is the same stupid thing infinitestory proposed we lose if we lynch bill murray and he's vi, everyone loses. this is a bad bad idea Oops. Didn't notice his posts
Okay, I'll carry on his torch then. This is something we should rely on. The benefits are pretty clear. Mafia has to use up one of their lynchs.
The point isn't whether or not the town is going to commit suicide. We will lynch BM tomorrow because we will know he is Mafia. But if Bill Murray isn't mafia, Mafia has to kill Bill Murray or they lose. The Mafia plays to win
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On October 08 2010 06:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 06:29 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:13 LSB wrote: My idea for dealing for Bill Murray. (This is for figuring out if he is red/VI)
Okay, instead of killing him today, we declare that we are going to kill him tomorrow, with a double lynch.
Mafia knows that we will kill Bill tomorrow, if Bill is VI, Mafia will have to kill him tonight or else they will lose. But if Bill is Mafia, mafia can't kill Bill, and we would know that he is red.
This way we get to have mafia waste on of their hits or lose. this is the same stupid thing infinitestory proposed we lose if we lynch bill murray and he's vi, everyone loses. this is a bad bad idea Oops. Didn't notice his posts Okay, I'll carry on his torch then. This is something we should rely on. The benefits are pretty clear. Mafia has to use up one of their lynchs. The point isn't whether or not the town is going to commit suicide. We will lynch BM tomorrow because we will know he is Mafia. But if Bill Murray isn't mafia, Mafia has to kill Bill Murray or they lose. The Mafia plays to win if town lynches bill murray as a threat to end the game, the town still loses if BM is VI. if BM isn't mafia and isn't VI then we've wasted a lynch AND put no pressure on the mafia. the point is that this is a suicide threat. our goal is not for mafia to lose it is for town to win. We can double lynch, that's why we wouldn't waste a lynch.
Also, the point is, BM won't be Vanilla Town when we put his head up to the chopping block, he'd either be dead by Scum hands, or he would be red.
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It doesn't seem like anyone looked at Infun's posts yet.
Last night, Mafia made some strange kills, they took out two members of town that weren't very active.
They might have took out Bum if they were blue hunting, but why would they take out Infun?
On October 07 2010 13:51 Infundibulum wrote: i expected this
gl town, avenge me! I don't know why Infundibulum wrote "I expected this". He didn't seem to attack much people, and he wasn't that much of a town leader
Possibly Infun might of thought he was getting close
On October 06 2010 11:00 Infundibulum wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 10:41 Pandain wrote:On October 06 2010 10:37 Infundibulum wrote: The reason I haven't been posting is because I haven't been home since last night (>24h ago) when I made that first post.
Thanks for getting my back while I was gone Dr H.
Pandain, anybody can link to a website - but I'm the one who did. I don't think I've seen that guide before on TL at all, and frankly guides like that are something we could use more of on TL so that people can learn to play in non-PM games. You said it isn't superb though. So what would you add?
Also Misder, I'm still waiting to see your list of suspects that you talked about before.
Just to make me happy, mind posting some more content? For example, what to do in this situation, with like 2 modkills going to happen. Honestly, like Dr.H said, we don't really have any evidence. My main reason for voting you was because you seemed the most likely, but really you in itself were only possibly 50% mafia. But just post some more and I'll probably change my vote. I'm going to review everyone thus far that's posted, and decide. Hopefully I'll make a somewhat confident decision. Well, it looks like it's too late to pressure them into posting by voting. So we let the modkills die, and good riddance to them. Ideally we need to find a person or two to put votes on, so that people don't have their votes just stuck on inactives, because that invariably ends up getting a townie lynched. The problem is that there hasn't been anybody polarizing enough; as far as I can tell the top 3 names have been me, Crisis, and Cynan? I can tell you my thoughts: Crisis is new so we can expect him to make mistakes no matter what side he's playing on. For this reason alone I'd rather not lynch him Day 1, because either way it makes him appear more red than he may actually be. Cynan is probably town but he wants to lynch inactives which makes me go He also says "Lynching me would really be a bad idea." This might be a soft blue claim? At this point I don't think we should expect to find mafia among inactives - TL mafia games always always start with discussions about lynching inactives, and by now you might think the mafia are starting to catch on. The problem is you have inactive townies that are active enough to avoid modkill, but still don't contribute anything. Part of me wants to lynch these people so that reds can't hide among them, but the other part knows that it's better to just lynch a red in the first place. Also i want to point out that ghrur started two posts with the exact same phrase "Speaking of lynching." Not sure if it means anything but i think it's funny.
Infun isn't really accusing them. He's just saying pay attention to Crisis and Cynan.
On October 06 2010 12:09 Infundibulum wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 12:07 NukeTheBunnys wrote: On that note, Im changing my vote to Protactinium. I don't want the mafia to be able to swing the vote away from a mafioso, and there certainly are enough no votes so far to swing the vote to just about anyone. so Im just going to put the leader further ahead. Also dealing with smurfs does not seem fun. Wait. So you don't think Protact is mafia, but you're still voting him anyway? This is a question with a bit of bite. It seems that Infun was suspecting NukeTheBunnys a bit.
Of Crisis, Cynan, and NukeTheBunnys, Infun seems to be suspicious of NukeTheBunnys the most.
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On October 08 2010 06:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 06:38 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:29 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:13 LSB wrote: My idea for dealing for Bill Murray. (This is for figuring out if he is red/VI)
Okay, instead of killing him today, we declare that we are going to kill him tomorrow, with a double lynch.
Mafia knows that we will kill Bill tomorrow, if Bill is VI, Mafia will have to kill him tonight or else they will lose. But if Bill is Mafia, mafia can't kill Bill, and we would know that he is red.
This way we get to have mafia waste on of their hits or lose. this is the same stupid thing infinitestory proposed we lose if we lynch bill murray and he's vi, everyone loses. this is a bad bad idea Oops. Didn't notice his posts Okay, I'll carry on his torch then. This is something we should rely on. The benefits are pretty clear. Mafia has to use up one of their lynchs. The point isn't whether or not the town is going to commit suicide. We will lynch BM tomorrow because we will know he is Mafia. But if Bill Murray isn't mafia, Mafia has to kill Bill Murray or they lose. The Mafia plays to win if town lynches bill murray as a threat to end the game, the town still loses if BM is VI. if BM isn't mafia and isn't VI then we've wasted a lynch AND put no pressure on the mafia. the point is that this is a suicide threat. our goal is not for mafia to lose it is for town to win. We can double lynch, that's why we wouldn't waste a lynch. Also, the point is, BM won't be Vanilla Town when we put his head up to the chopping block, he'd either be dead by Scum hands, or he would be red. or he'll be village idiot and bill murray wins and we lose. why should we put our chance of winning this game in the hands of the mafia? we are not lynching someone who is a big candidate for village idiot. we are not doing that. We wouldn't be placing the game in the hands of the mafia. The mafia would want to kill BM at night as much as we do.
The point is, the only reason why the mafia wouldn't kill BM is if BM is mafia.
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On October 08 2010 06:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 06:45 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:38 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:29 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:13 LSB wrote: My idea for dealing for Bill Murray. (This is for figuring out if he is red/VI)
Okay, instead of killing him today, we declare that we are going to kill him tomorrow, with a double lynch.
Mafia knows that we will kill Bill tomorrow, if Bill is VI, Mafia will have to kill him tonight or else they will lose. But if Bill is Mafia, mafia can't kill Bill, and we would know that he is red.
This way we get to have mafia waste on of their hits or lose. this is the same stupid thing infinitestory proposed we lose if we lynch bill murray and he's vi, everyone loses. this is a bad bad idea Oops. Didn't notice his posts Okay, I'll carry on his torch then. This is something we should rely on. The benefits are pretty clear. Mafia has to use up one of their lynchs. The point isn't whether or not the town is going to commit suicide. We will lynch BM tomorrow because we will know he is Mafia. But if Bill Murray isn't mafia, Mafia has to kill Bill Murray or they lose. The Mafia plays to win if town lynches bill murray as a threat to end the game, the town still loses if BM is VI. if BM isn't mafia and isn't VI then we've wasted a lynch AND put no pressure on the mafia. the point is that this is a suicide threat. our goal is not for mafia to lose it is for town to win. We can double lynch, that's why we wouldn't waste a lynch. Also, the point is, BM won't be Vanilla Town when we put his head up to the chopping block, he'd either be dead by Scum hands, or he would be red. or he'll be village idiot and bill murray wins and we lose. why should we put our chance of winning this game in the hands of the mafia? we are not lynching someone who is a big candidate for village idiot. we are not doing that. We wouldn't be placing the game in the hands of the mafia. The mafia would want to kill BM at night as much as we do. The point is, the only reason why the mafia wouldn't kill BM is if BM is mafia. or because town isn't going to lynch a village idiot and they don't need to kill him in the first place
I find it quiet hard to believe that there are two VI's in this game.
So what would we do about BM? We can't just ignore him
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On October 08 2010 06:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 06:50 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:45 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:38 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:29 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:13 LSB wrote: My idea for dealing for Bill Murray. (This is for figuring out if he is red/VI)
Okay, instead of killing him today, we declare that we are going to kill him tomorrow, with a double lynch.
Mafia knows that we will kill Bill tomorrow, if Bill is VI, Mafia will have to kill him tonight or else they will lose. But if Bill is Mafia, mafia can't kill Bill, and we would know that he is red.
This way we get to have mafia waste on of their hits or lose. this is the same stupid thing infinitestory proposed we lose if we lynch bill murray and he's vi, everyone loses. this is a bad bad idea Oops. Didn't notice his posts Okay, I'll carry on his torch then. This is something we should rely on. The benefits are pretty clear. Mafia has to use up one of their lynchs. The point isn't whether or not the town is going to commit suicide. We will lynch BM tomorrow because we will know he is Mafia. But if Bill Murray isn't mafia, Mafia has to kill Bill Murray or they lose. The Mafia plays to win if town lynches bill murray as a threat to end the game, the town still loses if BM is VI. if BM isn't mafia and isn't VI then we've wasted a lynch AND put no pressure on the mafia. the point is that this is a suicide threat. our goal is not for mafia to lose it is for town to win. We can double lynch, that's why we wouldn't waste a lynch. Also, the point is, BM won't be Vanilla Town when we put his head up to the chopping block, he'd either be dead by Scum hands, or he would be red. or he'll be village idiot and bill murray wins and we lose. why should we put our chance of winning this game in the hands of the mafia? we are not lynching someone who is a big candidate for village idiot. we are not doing that. We wouldn't be placing the game in the hands of the mafia. The mafia would want to kill BM at night as much as we do. The point is, the only reason why the mafia wouldn't kill BM is if BM is mafia. or because town isn't going to lynch a village idiot and they don't need to kill him in the first place I find it quiet hard to believe that there are two VI's in this game. So what would we do about BM? We can't just ignore him Vig hit, we've already went over this Small concern: What if it turns out BM is vet? We lose Vigi powers.
Big concern: Having the Vig kill BM doesn't help out the town at all
It's better to have the Mafia do the dirty work for us than for us to have to do it ourselves. Essentially we are reducing mafia KP for a night. More people are alive. Yay!
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LMAO
Pandain are you getting too trigger happy? Are you trying to start bandwagons?
On October 08 2010 06:57 Pandain wrote:And well well, what do we have here LSB? I was looking over Infun, not expecting much, when I noticed you left out some posts of his. Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 11:08 Infundibulum wrote:On October 06 2010 10:58 meeple wrote: ... lots of sudden votes for protactinium... I mean... smurfing isn't that annoying is it?
What's the deal with infinitestory's no-post vote... get in here man! Not just infinitestory, ghrur as well. You guys better post your reasoning for these votes on Element 91. Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 12:24 Infundibulum wrote:On October 06 2010 12:14 infinitestory wrote:On October 06 2010 12:09 Infundibulum wrote:On October 06 2010 12:07 NukeTheBunnys wrote: On that note, Im changing my vote to Protactinium. I don't want the mafia to be able to swing the vote away from a mafioso, and there certainly are enough no votes so far to swing the vote to just about anyone. so Im just going to put the leader further ahead. Also dealing with smurfs does not seem fun. Wait. So you don't think Protact is mafia, but you're still voting him anyway? He's worried that if Protact is mafia, the mafia will pull some shenanigans and change the leader away from him before lynch. this is awful reasoning. we want to lynch the people that we think are mafia. so far i haven't seen a convincing case made against Protact, and there's definitely no consensus. all there is is a bandwagon. How about we flip it: I'm worried that Protact is town and that we're going to lynch a townie, putting us even farther behind after modkills. I voted for gruhr because he bandwagoned on Protact, and this is a huge contradiction to his pretty well thought out posts earlier. Two posts with an underlying suscipcion of Ghrur. Now, this in itself wouldn't be interesting, but the fact you left them out is. I'm going to analyze LSB as well tonight. Okay, go accuse Ghur. Infun literally said that he was accusing Ghur because he "sounded funny". I'm not going to defend Ghur, but nor am I going to pretend that Infun was seriously attacking Ghur I don't know about you, but to me, "Sounding funny" is a pretty lame argument
And as for the second post. Obviously Infun is prodding NuketheBunnies. I just find no reason to be redundant Wait.. do you mean Infinitestory? Could you point out where he attacked Infinitestory? Thanks
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On October 08 2010 06:56 XeliN wrote: Ok I was going to try to write a large response post to some of the things people have said about me, but I'm finding it difficult currently due to the ambiguity of the assertions, there have been some statements such as "sticking his neck out" "sided with bill" and other such things.
I know this will sound a little hmm arrogant or presumptuous maybe, but for the sake of clarity: if anyone has any specific questions about my play, conduct, arguments or actions that they would like me to directly answer then please state them clearly and I will do so .
I'm the most likely to be lynched atm, so plz humor me xD (I didn't read much of the spammy part, so please excuse me if you already awnsered/addressed this)
I'm just wondering. Why did you keep on posting about PMs, when BB went out and told people to stop doing that?
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On October 08 2010 07:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 06:57 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:50 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:45 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:38 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:29 LSB wrote: [quote] Oops. Didn't notice his posts
Okay, I'll carry on his torch then. This is something we should rely on. The benefits are pretty clear. Mafia has to use up one of their lynchs.
The point isn't whether or not the town is going to commit suicide. We will lynch BM tomorrow because we will know he is Mafia. But if Bill Murray isn't mafia, Mafia has to kill Bill Murray or they lose. The Mafia plays to win if town lynches bill murray as a threat to end the game, the town still loses if BM is VI. if BM isn't mafia and isn't VI then we've wasted a lynch AND put no pressure on the mafia. the point is that this is a suicide threat. our goal is not for mafia to lose it is for town to win. We can double lynch, that's why we wouldn't waste a lynch. Also, the point is, BM won't be Vanilla Town when we put his head up to the chopping block, he'd either be dead by Scum hands, or he would be red. or he'll be village idiot and bill murray wins and we lose. why should we put our chance of winning this game in the hands of the mafia? we are not lynching someone who is a big candidate for village idiot. we are not doing that. We wouldn't be placing the game in the hands of the mafia. The mafia would want to kill BM at night as much as we do. The point is, the only reason why the mafia wouldn't kill BM is if BM is mafia. or because town isn't going to lynch a village idiot and they don't need to kill him in the first place I find it quiet hard to believe that there are two VI's in this game. So what would we do about BM? We can't just ignore him Vig hit, we've already went over this Small concern: What if it turns out BM is vet? We lose Vigi powers. Big concern: Having the Vig kill BM doesn't help out the town at all It's better to have the Mafia do the dirty work for us than for us to have to do it ourselves. Essentially we are reducing mafia KP for a night. More people are alive. Yay! We don't decide what the mafia does. What you don't understand is that the only way this puts mafia in a corner is IF bill murray is mafia if bill murray isn't mafia they are sitting back and laughing at the pressure while we are essentially saying "if you don't kill this town player we will". if we have reason to believe he is the village idiot than lynching him is stupid
Bill Murray is going to be dead no matter what if he is mafia. Doesn't change the situation for the Mafia at all O.O If Bill Murray is mafia, mafia is probably cutting losses right now and bandwagoning him.
On the other hand, if Bill Murray isn't mafia, they will kill him. They have to decide between losing the game and using a KP. Obviously they are going to use a KP. If they sit back and laugh they will lose.
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On October 08 2010 07:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 07:08 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 07:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:57 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:50 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:45 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:38 LSB wrote: [quote] We can double lynch, that's why we wouldn't waste a lynch.
Also, the point is, BM won't be Vanilla Town when we put his head up to the chopping block, he'd either be dead by Scum hands, or he would be red. or he'll be village idiot and bill murray wins and we lose. why should we put our chance of winning this game in the hands of the mafia? we are not lynching someone who is a big candidate for village idiot. we are not doing that. We wouldn't be placing the game in the hands of the mafia. The mafia would want to kill BM at night as much as we do. The point is, the only reason why the mafia wouldn't kill BM is if BM is mafia. or because town isn't going to lynch a village idiot and they don't need to kill him in the first place I find it quiet hard to believe that there are two VI's in this game. So what would we do about BM? We can't just ignore him Vig hit, we've already went over this Small concern: What if it turns out BM is vet? We lose Vigi powers. Big concern: Having the Vig kill BM doesn't help out the town at all It's better to have the Mafia do the dirty work for us than for us to have to do it ourselves. Essentially we are reducing mafia KP for a night. More people are alive. Yay! We don't decide what the mafia does. What you don't understand is that the only way this puts mafia in a corner is IF bill murray is mafia if bill murray isn't mafia they are sitting back and laughing at the pressure while we are essentially saying "if you don't kill this town player we will". if we have reason to believe he is the village idiot than lynching him is stupid Bill Murray is going to be dead no matter what if he is mafia. Doesn't change the situation for the Mafia at all O.O If Bill Murray is mafia, mafia is probably cutting losses right now and bandwagoning him. On the other hand, if Bill Murray isn't mafia, they will kill him. They have to decide between losing the game and using a KP. Obviously they are going to use a KP. If they sit back and laugh they will lose. so lets clarify you are saying if mafia doesn't kill bill murray we will lynch him and because he is the VI mafia will lose? if bill murray isn't mafia and the mafia doesn't kill him what does the mafia stand to lose that we don't? in that scenario both the mafia and the town are under equal pressure and the mafia have the upper hand because they know bill isn't red and we don't We both agree that if Bill Murray is mafia, there is no difference in the plan. The point of disagreement is what the mafia would do.
Okay, I have no idea how you're approaching the problem. But I think we aren't on the same page. I'll just explain it again. Think of incentives from the Mafia's point of view.
Assume we are following through with our plan. It's Night 2. Mafia knows that Bill Murray isn't one of them. They either have two options
1) Kill Bill Murray, if Bill Murray is a townie, its business as usually. If Bill Murray is VI they adverted disaster 2) Don't Kill Bill Murray, if Bill Murray is townie, nothing really happens as the town will just double lynch. If Bill Murrary is VI, the town would lynch Bill Murrary, thinking that Bill Murrary is red.
Mafia will find that option 1 is preferable. Option 2 they have a chance of loosing. Option 1 they kill someone that doesn't reveal to the town much information about the mafia.
As for the Town. It's Day 3. From our incentive analysis, we realize that if Bill Murrary was green/VI, mafia would have killed him. So if Bill Murrary is green, we wake up with his death post.
If Bill Murrary was red, Mafia wouldn't have killed him. So we know that he is red. So we lynch him and we take out a mafia.
What this plan does is exploit the fact that the mafia knows whether or not Bill Murray is red Mafia basically knows Bill Murray's role. We don't. So we force the mafia to reveal this information.
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On October 08 2010 07:23 Divinek wrote: or he's the village idiot and we lynch him and we lose lol?
But the mafia won't let that happen
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On October 08 2010 07:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote: well we have to wait on what the mafia does. the mafia can just not kill bill murray knowing the town will lynch him effectively increasing their KP assuming bill is NOT mafia
However, then they will have risk that BM is mafia, and they have mislead the town. The Mafia would not be increasing their KP. Remember, either way, BM is going to be dead, whether it is lynch/Vig/mafia.
The thing is, we are going to set up a situation where the mafia will have to either accept risk, or use up one of their KP
this is no different from pressuring anyone. you call someone out as mafia and if they don't die during the night you lynch them. this only pressures the mafia if that player is mafia. The difference is, when we pressure someone, mafia has no reason to kill that person during the night. Maybe to cause some confusion. But it would be much better to let the town lynch him on their own
On the other hand, mafia has a stake in this, they also need to kill BM. Mafia is under some pressure
am I making sense? the mafia only stands to lose anything here if BM is mafia and I don't think that's the case. he is a strong VI case if there is a second VI but he's played like this as town before. i really just think he's green (especially considering the PM trick he pulled) I understand what you are saying. Just we differ in what we think the mafia will do.
Also, I think that he is red.
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On October 08 2010 08:19 ghrur wrote: Okay, first off LSB, I know my name is very weird, but ghrur instead of ghur please. xD Sowwwy Ghrur.
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On October 08 2010 09:57 kane]deth[ wrote: So I am currently voting for Misder as the proof that others have posted on him seems more reasonable than the accusations against any other player currently. Um what proof? Like what did you find most persuasive?
I swear that I don't remember anyone formally accusing him. We're just pressuring him
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On October 08 2010 10:51 Misder wrote:I'm actually surprised not too many people are voting for me, considering the fact that I did contridict myself twice; once when I said that I vote with reason (well technically I did... intuition and my limited knowledge on how mafia players work) and once when I said that mafia members are the ones who die out into the thread (which I basically disappeared from). I'm such a good target for the mafia to start a bandwagon. I don't know if this is a good thing that the town is not impulsive or a bad thing that the town doesn't really like to do analysis... (well ghrur did, and i think he makes good points). And pretty much yeah, I took a shot in the dark, and I think I pretty much shot myself instead. Well this is what I had a while ago, but I never posted "~Opz~ Ok, I’m looking at him from the perspective of Mafia XXX, the most recent normal game. In this game ~Opz~ was tracker. I guess this isn’t the most amazing analysis, and most people also act differently from a green townie and a blue, but I’ll try. In day 1, as a blue ~Opz~ told the town what to do, coming up with plans, participating in the actual crux of what was going on. Show nested quote +On August 07 2010 02:26 ~OpZ~ wrote: Okay. Vigi should claim Day 2 IMO because he can't use his night kill til night 2. The vigi can openly suggest his target, meds protect target. If 2 people die that night, and dude is protected from a hit then BAM, we have a huge circle formed with meds confirming the vigi, DT's can openly claim to vigi or use a mouth, Bus Driver should stay hidden I feel...except to maybe the meds.
And if it is a mafia ploy? We'd have netted two mafia. The fake vigi claimer, and the dude who was hit by the vigi because he would have to have been protected. All medics should protect the guy getting vigi'd so they get the protection message, or mafia would have to use all KP to stop the plan, GIVING us quite a few more days... He never actually contributes in this game on Day 1, just blames all of the newcomers." So my analysis of him before was when he was a blue role, pretty much irrelevant... I didn't look back at games even older, when I should have. When I actually looked at him more in dept than my intuition and one day of the game where he was blue, I've come to a conclusion that ~Opz~ is most likely town. This is his quote from Mafia XXIII where he was actually townie. Show nested quote +On July 18 2010 15:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:On July 18 2010 08:12 Jayme wrote:On July 18 2010 08:03 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: RNG lynch is dumb because you have more of a chance to land on a townie, and then he could be a helpful townie.
if we lynch an inactive we're killing someone who probably would not have helped us anyway
however, i don't want to lynch someone that would just get modkilled since that's obviously a waste.
Bill, how many votes can someone miss before they get zapped? As far as I know they can't miss any votes at all. We have more of a chance to land on a townie with any day 1 method we choose simply due to the fact that there are 24 townies and 6 mafia...there is no way of avoiding this. As a matter of fact I would say we have a better chance of hitting a good red player through RNG because I mean...who's to say that this "good townie" isn't just a red being a good townie. I understand lynching an inactive is killing someone who wouldn't have helped anyway but you're still doing just that...just about guaranteeing a green lynch which is completely pointless. As I said before I'm willing to go with either, there isn't much we could do. The issue I see with RNG is verifying if it's actually RNG. Actually....I'm done for this....Let me read a little more and we'll see who I want to die.... Also, I'm tired of these idiotic plans. We can pm. Dt, check someone PM them, pass turn, check someone PM them and the other person, pass turn. Quit playing like idiots and realize the benefits of having PMs....Nubby ass mafioso. And go back and look at games with PM's day one, no body does anything that day... The best thing I could say is everyone Roleclaim to me, and lynch me today...Or wait til tomorrow and do it. I'd inform of match ups, over counts, and die out as proof. How does that sound? I can send the PM out, and inform before death of everyone who doesn't respond, over counts of roles, ect. ect. I could be checked night one if that would be a problem, (wouldn't recommend organized multi checking though) and lynched day 2. Even if I was god father, god father would be out and too many blues to snipe with a list of roles and over claims. *yawn* But I don't really wanna die too bad, or abuse how easy this game could be. ~Opz~ has a condescending tone this mafia game, just like he does in this game. When I was reading through his posts in XXIII, its mostly yelling at people. Also, I believe that he is town because of he said that Artanis wrote Townie on his PM. If he was mafia, he wouldn't make such a huge claim. As for BM, I believe that he is VI. BM spammed most of Mafia XXX also, and he was ninja then. Question, what is the point of using an important vig shot on a supposed VI? Can't we just not lynch the VI and be done with? Or are we just afraid that then, mafia members can pose as VI and not get lynched? So question: Can't the mafia not kill BM if they believe that BM is not VI? Also, if BM is VI and tomorrow we double lynch him, don't we also lose? We're are depending on the mafia for this lynch to work, and I don't really like it. Also, mafia wouldn't be killing who they believe to be townies, and BM is definitely not playing like he is blue This analysis is junk and you know it is too. I don't get this magical intuition of yours. It sounds like you just made this up on the spot.
Only thing that's nagging me is that Pandian just bandwagoned you. And Pandian for some reason has been bandwagoning whoever seems the most scummy at the moment. Who knows, maybe Pandian is right
The double lynch question Double lynch increases town Kp, it's like getting an extra day (okay there are some difference, ie we won't know the end result) We can a) Follow up on two leads. b) Kill Bill Murray and someone else in one day. VOTE DOUBLE LYNCH
On October 09 2010 09:34 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 09:32 Pandain wrote: Reasons for double lynch
1. We'll have enough info from today's lynch, this whole well of info we already have, a dt check, BM's result, and possibly a medic save. 2.In case BM is mafia 3. In case there is no vigi(doubtful though) 4. We really need to start lowering the mafia kp To go through with this is a calculated risk though. We're leveraging the possibility to sacrifice 2 more players to the mafia. I don't know if I can go through with that. Note, Mafia killing has a 100% chance of hitting a townie. That's why town lynching is preferred
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CynanMachae and cSc have not voted
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On September 08 2010 13:30 BrownBear wrote: 2 Double Lynches remaining Interesting...
Anyways, why not use one now, we got a good plan to go with for BM
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On October 09 2010 11:54 kingjames01 wrote: I set my alarm so I could wake up before Day 2 ended and I went and checked the voting thread. I noticed that 4 players haven't put their votes in!! SINiquity, XeliN, kane]deth[ and cSc
There's no way that all 4 of you are mafia. DON'T GET MODKILLED! VOTE!!!!!! Remember even if you vote for or against Double Lynching it doesn't count as your lynch vote.
You still need to vote! If you guys lose the game for us tonight I am going to freak out.
cSc is the only one who hasn't voted yet.
On October 09 2010 11:48 SiNiquity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 11:41 LSB wrote:On September 08 2010 13:30 BrownBear wrote: 2 Double Lynches remaining Interesting... Anyways, why not use one now, we got a good plan to go with for BM Wait. So we're double lynching just to lynch BM "for free" tomorrow? That's why I voted for double lynch. See this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=151150¤tpage=37#733
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I looked at the votes for both days, and it's all over the place.
A few general things I found
1) No one was on both the Day1 and Day2 bandwagon 2) Basically everyone did not make a safe vote both days (by safe, I mean they were the only one voting for someone)
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Just saying, I voted for Misder a lot earlier than Pandian did.... o.o
+ Show Spoiler +On October 08 2010 06:23 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 04:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Also I need to put pressure on Misder again.
You're not getting away with being inactive this time buddy. Where is the evidence for your original accusations? Why did you fingerpoint and run away? Why did you fingerpoint, call out other players for not backing up their accusations, then go inactive without backing up your accusations?
I might have changed my vote to Xelin for the time being but you're still under fire here. Glad to. Okay, First of all, I did a quick read through. There is no Opz - Misder connection. + Show Spoiler +Then suddenly misder posts this... On October 06 2010 09:22 Misder wrote: Actually, I’m just going to vote ~Opz~ right now instead of XeliN, just because of this tiny suspicion. I don’t know if I truly believe in that he is mafia, but I think he has a better chance at being mafia than XeliN. ... What? Show nested quote +On October 05 2010 13:03 Misder wrote:On October 05 2010 12:47 ~OpZ~ wrote: I'd rather you post your suspects now Mr. Misder?
What if mafia slay you at night?
=/ I think I rather wait. First, my suspicions aren't really big; they could be comepletely wrong, and I don't really have strong evidence. Plus, I'm still looking at different play styles from previous games. Second, this way, the mafia doesn't know whether I'm right or wrong, so if they really are scared, they're going to have to kill me If you guys really want, I'll post my suspicions, maybe to generate discussion or something on day 1. Which reminds me, how do we decide which inactive to lynch? I made this mistake last game, I fingerpointed when I was mafia. The problem was that I didn't have that good of an argument to start off with. I just did a "I'm pretty sure that they are mafia" Misder, can you elaborate for us who do you think is scummy? I know you mentioned Infun, but your analysis was shaky and wrong.
+ Show Spoiler +On October 09 2010 11:18 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 10:51 Misder wrote:I'm actually surprised not too many people are voting for me, considering the fact that I did contridict myself twice; once when I said that I vote with reason (well technically I did... intuition and my limited knowledge on how mafia players work) and once when I said that mafia members are the ones who die out into the thread (which I basically disappeared from). I'm such a good target for the mafia to start a bandwagon. I don't know if this is a good thing that the town is not impulsive or a bad thing that the town doesn't really like to do analysis... (well ghrur did, and i think he makes good points). And pretty much yeah, I took a shot in the dark, and I think I pretty much shot myself instead. Well this is what I had a while ago, but I never posted "~Opz~ Ok, I’m looking at him from the perspective of Mafia XXX, the most recent normal game. In this game ~Opz~ was tracker. I guess this isn’t the most amazing analysis, and most people also act differently from a green townie and a blue, but I’ll try. In day 1, as a blue ~Opz~ told the town what to do, coming up with plans, participating in the actual crux of what was going on. On August 07 2010 02:26 ~OpZ~ wrote: Okay. Vigi should claim Day 2 IMO because he can't use his night kill til night 2. The vigi can openly suggest his target, meds protect target. If 2 people die that night, and dude is protected from a hit then BAM, we have a huge circle formed with meds confirming the vigi, DT's can openly claim to vigi or use a mouth, Bus Driver should stay hidden I feel...except to maybe the meds.
And if it is a mafia ploy? We'd have netted two mafia. The fake vigi claimer, and the dude who was hit by the vigi because he would have to have been protected. All medics should protect the guy getting vigi'd so they get the protection message, or mafia would have to use all KP to stop the plan, GIVING us quite a few more days... He never actually contributes in this game on Day 1, just blames all of the newcomers." So my analysis of him before was when he was a blue role, pretty much irrelevant... I didn't look back at games even older, when I should have. When I actually looked at him more in dept than my intuition and one day of the game where he was blue, I've come to a conclusion that ~Opz~ is most likely town. This is his quote from Mafia XXIII where he was actually townie. On July 18 2010 15:34 ~OpZ~ wrote:On July 18 2010 08:12 Jayme wrote:On July 18 2010 08:03 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: RNG lynch is dumb because you have more of a chance to land on a townie, and then he could be a helpful townie.
if we lynch an inactive we're killing someone who probably would not have helped us anyway
however, i don't want to lynch someone that would just get modkilled since that's obviously a waste.
Bill, how many votes can someone miss before they get zapped? As far as I know they can't miss any votes at all. We have more of a chance to land on a townie with any day 1 method we choose simply due to the fact that there are 24 townies and 6 mafia...there is no way of avoiding this. As a matter of fact I would say we have a better chance of hitting a good red player through RNG because I mean...who's to say that this "good townie" isn't just a red being a good townie. I understand lynching an inactive is killing someone who wouldn't have helped anyway but you're still doing just that...just about guaranteeing a green lynch which is completely pointless. As I said before I'm willing to go with either, there isn't much we could do. The issue I see with RNG is verifying if it's actually RNG. Actually....I'm done for this....Let me read a little more and we'll see who I want to die.... Also, I'm tired of these idiotic plans. We can pm. Dt, check someone PM them, pass turn, check someone PM them and the other person, pass turn. Quit playing like idiots and realize the benefits of having PMs....Nubby ass mafioso. And go back and look at games with PM's day one, no body does anything that day... The best thing I could say is everyone Roleclaim to me, and lynch me today...Or wait til tomorrow and do it. I'd inform of match ups, over counts, and die out as proof. How does that sound? I can send the PM out, and inform before death of everyone who doesn't respond, over counts of roles, ect. ect. I could be checked night one if that would be a problem, (wouldn't recommend organized multi checking though) and lynched day 2. Even if I was god father, god father would be out and too many blues to snipe with a list of roles and over claims. *yawn* But I don't really wanna die too bad, or abuse how easy this game could be. ~Opz~ has a condescending tone this mafia game, just like he does in this game. When I was reading through his posts in XXIII, its mostly yelling at people. Also, I believe that he is town because of he said that Artanis wrote Townie on his PM. If he was mafia, he wouldn't make such a huge claim. As for BM, I believe that he is VI. BM spammed most of Mafia XXX also, and he was ninja then. Question, what is the point of using an important vig shot on a supposed VI? Can't we just not lynch the VI and be done with? Or are we just afraid that then, mafia members can pose as VI and not get lynched? So question: Can't the mafia not kill BM if they believe that BM is not VI? Also, if BM is VI and tomorrow we double lynch him, don't we also lose? We're are depending on the mafia for this lynch to work, and I don't really like it. Also, mafia wouldn't be killing who they believe to be townies, and BM is definitely not playing like he is blue This analysis is junk and you know it is too. I don't get this magical intuition of yours. It sounds like you just made this up on the spot. Only thing that's nagging me is that Pandian just bandwagoned you. And Pandian for some reason has been bandwagoning whoever seems the most scummy at the moment. Who knows, maybe Pandian is right The double lynch questionDouble lynch increases town Kp, it's like getting an extra day (okay there are some difference, ie we won't know the end result) We can a) Follow up on two leads. b) Kill Bill Murray and someone else in one day. VOTE DOUBLE LYNCH Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 09:34 kingjames01 wrote:On October 09 2010 09:32 Pandain wrote: Reasons for double lynch
1. We'll have enough info from today's lynch, this whole well of info we already have, a dt check, BM's result, and possibly a medic save. 2.In case BM is mafia 3. In case there is no vigi(doubtful though) 4. We really need to start lowering the mafia kp To go through with this is a calculated risk though. We're leveraging the possibility to sacrifice 2 more players to the mafia. I don't know if I can go through with that. Note, Mafia killing has a 100% chance of hitting a townie. That's why town lynching is preferred I voted for him because his analysis was junk. Turns out I was wrong about him :S
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I'm going to vote for Bill Murray. Unless of course, Bill Murray pipes up about why he isn't dead
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On October 10 2010 14:05 ~OpZ~ wrote: I took a hit last night. Vet? Or Bulletproof? Or doc?
On October 10 2010 14:32 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2010 14:18 SiNiquity wrote:Annnd now no one's been poisoned. :o On October 10 2010 14:05 ~OpZ~ wrote: I took a hit last night. err what? it's possible that mafia could poison someone and just have one of their members claim they took a hit you know. Not saying i think that's the case atm, i've generally seen opz in a pretty good light this game, but don't jump to conclusions so easily! We'll find that out by tomorrow. Anyways its a dumb idea for mafia to claim to be hit. If a person is poisoned tomorrow, we can easily lynch OpZ
Basically we know that OpZ is blue. Unless of course doc protected him, but I don't know if he gets notification
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On October 10 2010 12:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If a person is saved by a medic, both he and the medic will be notified. If a person is poisoned, they will not know until they die the next day, unless a medic saves him/her. Oh nevermind. But it would be nice OpZ if you would claim.
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On October 10 2010 13:24 Divinek wrote:NOOOOO PANDAIN, as much as I hate your fadoodles at least you play this game with heart! I will seek to avenge you my brother Now lets look at this motherfucker kane, I know there’s not much to look at lol Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 06:25 kane]deth[ wrote: Due to school, I can really only post around this time.
Just making a post to indicate my activeness, will edit or post again later with thoughts after reading the thread.
Edit: So I'm not sure what content I must post to be not lynched so I suppose I'll just give my opinion on the RNGing lynching of inactives. I think it'll be a good idea as long as we're not lynching any modkills for obvious reasons. I personally don't contribute much and might be considered inactive, but thats because of my inexperience. >: So I think that at least pressuring people to post more is a good idea. Flat out giving us his excuse that he’s not gonna contribute much and be inactive, ie ANTI town. An argument could be made for town neutrality but that would require content from him. This is not an original idea btw, he’s literally parroting about 3 other people at this point. Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 06:45 kane]deth[ wrote:On October 06 2010 06:31 kingjames01 wrote:On October 06 2010 06:25 kane]deth[ wrote: Due to school, I can really only post around this time.
Just making a post to indicate my activeness, will edit or post again later with thoughts after reading the thread. Just saw this and wanted to make sure you DON'T EDIT your post. Just make a new post. Welcome to the game! =) And I've just made a huge mistake >: Guilty conscience? I imagine his mafia buddies yelled at him for that one Show nested quote +On October 07 2010 10:26 kane]deth[ wrote: I have no idea what to do once again. The more I try to find suspicious people, the more I think everyone is suspicious. I suppose I'll just keep reading and see if anyone really jumps out at me ._. Time and time I have seen new mafia players try this card out. They are confused, they don’t know what to do, this prevents them from having to put forward any of their own ideas because they know they are quite likely to slip up in ways they haven’t even thought of yet. Newbie town players are quite often FEARLESS, they know they got nothing to hide and they get into this game because they are EXCITED to get those mafia! NOT SCARED, why would you be scared if you were town? Then he apologizes for not voting blah blah more guilty conscience fuel Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 09:57 kane]deth[ wrote: So I am currently voting for Misder as the proof that others have posted on him seems more reasonable than the accusations against any other player currently. The plan on getting rid of BM seems reasonable as well, but most of the analysis today has been wasted on what to do with him instead of finding Reds. Xelin seemed quick to bandwagon with BM but besides that he doesn't seem to be very suspicious. He could've just been slow on realizing how ridiculous BM's plans and not just bandwagoning for a kill. See that bolded word there? Yeah that’s right, OTHERs so if it goes bad (which it did) then he can go WELL I DIDN’T WANNA DO IT, but you guys presented such good arguments I agreed! Not my fault! It’s deflection at the most basic level Get rid of bm blah everyone already said that. Jumping on xelin too, everyone else did that. I mean this stuff would be fine to do of his own accord, but he’s just repeating everything that’s already been said. This is KEY because he can’t be caught for spewing bullshit because none of it is his own Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 09:59 kane]deth[ wrote: Also note that I have no idea how these players have played in previous games, so I can't make references like that, or if something is strange or off about someone's playstyle. More I don’t know bullshit, as in don’t expect me to do things, to be useful. Blah blah im sick of your excuses. Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 10:21 kane]deth[ wrote: I suppose proof was a bad word to use there. The accusations that he made against the 'higher tier' players baselessly and his general aggression. Basically the post that Ghrur made. Currently he's just making trouble by trying to lynch players at seemingly random.
I'm also lost on one thing; is the only way to find a players posts is to find a post of the player and then click profile? I love seeing this tactic. He apologizes, then puts up some shit justification and THEN he adds a question to the end of his post, as questions always take up everything you’re thinking about because you immediately try to answer that question and almost seemingly forget what you just read lol, quality double fake of the old flame fanning. Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 12:07 kane]deth[ wrote: I had voted for Double Lynch already, as we would be able to lynch BM. Yuh yuh guys I agree with you don’t get angry with me im doing wut u asked. DIE Also as a little tidbit rol almost replaced this dude, look at rols only post in that entire time Show nested quote +On October 06 2010 16:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: HAI GUYS
SO U NO IM IN THIS GAME NOW SO I WILL POST LATER AFTER I READ. Excuse for inactivity followed up by NOTHING. Sorry kane you’re not going to continue coasting by unnoticed. There’s nothing but wifom trying to draw away from if it was because of you on his list that pandain was killed or not, but one thing I do know, you’ve been doing fuck all for us and I have a pretty good idea why. You’re getting my vote, I will avenge you pandain! Firstly, my problems with your analysis I wouldn't really call kane]deth[ that experienced (wasn't the only other game he played he got modkilled?) Therefore we have to accept his excuses of being noobish as reality. And don't blame him for all his questions, my first two games I had lots of those in my posts And as you know, one of the posts was RoL, I'm not going to judge kane]deth[ off of RoL
Next, I'm going to do some analysis of my own At the same time though, newcomers have giant "I'm Townie" lables on their posts, because of how they play. "I'm Townie" traits-
- Does a lot, like over the weekends, they unleash huge torrents of spam/planning/accusations
- Relys on own analysis. Has sort of the "I don't trust anyone" appeal.
- (A continuation) They vote with good reasons, or abstain
kane]deth[ has been horrendously bad at doing any of this. His posts are all pretty cautious, he freerides off of other people's thoughts
He actually initially voted for Misder, pushing the bandwagon
On October 09 2010 12:19 kane]deth[ wrote: ##Vote Misder And then afterwards he switches to Xelin, even though he's pretty convinced on misder. This screams wishy-washy to me
Kane]deth[ please roleclaim
Problems with my analysis: It could just be bad play / he doesn't really care.
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On October 11 2010 00:28 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2010 23:41 LSB wrote:On October 10 2010 14:05 ~OpZ~ wrote: I took a hit last night. Vet? Or Bulletproof? Or doc? On October 10 2010 14:32 Divinek wrote:On October 10 2010 14:18 SiNiquity wrote:Annnd now no one's been poisoned. :o On October 10 2010 14:05 ~OpZ~ wrote: I took a hit last night. err what? it's possible that mafia could poison someone and just have one of their members claim they took a hit you know. Not saying i think that's the case atm, i've generally seen opz in a pretty good light this game, but don't jump to conclusions so easily! We'll find that out by tomorrow. Anyways its a dumb idea for mafia to claim to be hit. If a person is poisoned tomorrow, we can easily lynch OpZ Basically we know that OpZ is blue. Unless of course doc protected him, but I don't know if he gets notification im not following your rationale say today there was hit+poison and he claimed he took a hit then tomorrow they could hit+poison, and hit+poision until the day they need 3 kills to win and then do hit+hit+poisonkill so no it wouldn't be dumb. I find it interesting that you say so though. Ah, never thought about that.
Wait a minute. There are 15 town aligned players. If we miss twice there are 13 left, mafia will off two (assumign that Opz isn't lying), and then we are in Lylo...
So tomorrow is lylo if we fail.
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On October 11 2010 04:52 kane]deth[ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2010 23:59 LSB wrote:On October 10 2010 13:24 Divinek wrote:NOOOOO PANDAIN, as much as I hate your fadoodles at least you play this game with heart! I will seek to avenge you my brother Now lets look at this motherfucker kane, I know there’s not much to look at lol On October 06 2010 06:25 kane]deth[ wrote: Due to school, I can really only post around this time.
Just making a post to indicate my activeness, will edit or post again later with thoughts after reading the thread.
Edit: So I'm not sure what content I must post to be not lynched so I suppose I'll just give my opinion on the RNGing lynching of inactives. I think it'll be a good idea as long as we're not lynching any modkills for obvious reasons. I personally don't contribute much and might be considered inactive, but thats because of my inexperience. >: So I think that at least pressuring people to post more is a good idea. Flat out giving us his excuse that he’s not gonna contribute much and be inactive, ie ANTI town. An argument could be made for town neutrality but that would require content from him. This is not an original idea btw, he’s literally parroting about 3 other people at this point. On October 06 2010 06:45 kane]deth[ wrote:On October 06 2010 06:31 kingjames01 wrote:On October 06 2010 06:25 kane]deth[ wrote: Due to school, I can really only post around this time.
Just making a post to indicate my activeness, will edit or post again later with thoughts after reading the thread. Just saw this and wanted to make sure you DON'T EDIT your post. Just make a new post. Welcome to the game! =) And I've just made a huge mistake >: Guilty conscience? I imagine his mafia buddies yelled at him for that one On October 07 2010 10:26 kane]deth[ wrote: I have no idea what to do once again. The more I try to find suspicious people, the more I think everyone is suspicious. I suppose I'll just keep reading and see if anyone really jumps out at me ._. Time and time I have seen new mafia players try this card out. They are confused, they don’t know what to do, this prevents them from having to put forward any of their own ideas because they know they are quite likely to slip up in ways they haven’t even thought of yet. Newbie town players are quite often FEARLESS, they know they got nothing to hide and they get into this game because they are EXCITED to get those mafia! NOT SCARED, why would you be scared if you were town? Then he apologizes for not voting blah blah more guilty conscience fuel On October 08 2010 09:57 kane]deth[ wrote: So I am currently voting for Misder as the proof that others have posted on him seems more reasonable than the accusations against any other player currently. The plan on getting rid of BM seems reasonable as well, but most of the analysis today has been wasted on what to do with him instead of finding Reds. Xelin seemed quick to bandwagon with BM but besides that he doesn't seem to be very suspicious. He could've just been slow on realizing how ridiculous BM's plans and not just bandwagoning for a kill. See that bolded word there? Yeah that’s right, OTHERs so if it goes bad (which it did) then he can go WELL I DIDN’T WANNA DO IT, but you guys presented such good arguments I agreed! Not my fault! It’s deflection at the most basic level Get rid of bm blah everyone already said that. Jumping on xelin too, everyone else did that. I mean this stuff would be fine to do of his own accord, but he’s just repeating everything that’s already been said. This is KEY because he can’t be caught for spewing bullshit because none of it is his own On October 08 2010 09:59 kane]deth[ wrote: Also note that I have no idea how these players have played in previous games, so I can't make references like that, or if something is strange or off about someone's playstyle. More I don’t know bullshit, as in don’t expect me to do things, to be useful. Blah blah im sick of your excuses. On October 08 2010 10:21 kane]deth[ wrote: I suppose proof was a bad word to use there. The accusations that he made against the 'higher tier' players baselessly and his general aggression. Basically the post that Ghrur made. Currently he's just making trouble by trying to lynch players at seemingly random.
I'm also lost on one thing; is the only way to find a players posts is to find a post of the player and then click profile? I love seeing this tactic. He apologizes, then puts up some shit justification and THEN he adds a question to the end of his post, as questions always take up everything you’re thinking about because you immediately try to answer that question and almost seemingly forget what you just read lol, quality double fake of the old flame fanning. On October 09 2010 12:07 kane]deth[ wrote: I had voted for Double Lynch already, as we would be able to lynch BM. Yuh yuh guys I agree with you don’t get angry with me im doing wut u asked. DIE Also as a little tidbit rol almost replaced this dude, look at rols only post in that entire time On October 06 2010 16:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: HAI GUYS
SO U NO IM IN THIS GAME NOW SO I WILL POST LATER AFTER I READ. Excuse for inactivity followed up by NOTHING. Sorry kane you’re not going to continue coasting by unnoticed. There’s nothing but wifom trying to draw away from if it was because of you on his list that pandain was killed or not, but one thing I do know, you’ve been doing fuck all for us and I have a pretty good idea why. You’re getting my vote, I will avenge you pandain! Firstly, my problems with your analysis I wouldn't really call kane]deth[ that experienced (wasn't the only other game he played he got modkilled?) Therefore we have to accept his excuses of being noobish as reality. And don't blame him for all his questions, my first two games I had lots of those in my posts And as you know, one of the posts was RoL, I'm not going to judge kane]deth[ off of RoL Next, I'm going to do some analysis of my own At the same time though, newcomers have giant "I'm Townie" lables on their posts, because of how they play. "I'm Townie" traits- - Does a lot, like over the weekends, they unleash huge torrents of spam/planning/accusations
- Relys on own analysis. Has sort of the "I don't trust anyone" appeal.
- (A continuation) They vote with good reasons, or abstain
kane]deth[ has been horrendously bad at doing any of this. His posts are all pretty cautious, he freerides off of other people's thoughts He actually initially voted for Misder, pushing the bandwagon On October 09 2010 12:19 kane]deth[ wrote: ##Vote Misder And then afterwards he switches to Xelin, even though he's pretty convinced on misder. This screams wishy-washy to me Kane]deth[ please roleclaimProblems with my analysis: It could just be bad play / he doesn't really care. I must say, you're entire analysis is bullshit; you're assuming that new players instantly take risks and because in the first few posts I have in mafia aren't decisive and inspired, that I am anti-town. I must say that there is truth though, I haven't contributed anything yet, but I promise I will by monday night. Of course you could say I'm delaying because I'm mafia but it IS thanksgiving over here and all. @LSB I'm role-claiming town, but even if I was mafia I would say that :V About my voting, I changed it because I was thinking XeliN in my mind but I typed Misder for some reason. Misder did seem to be angry and such but I thought that was just a good tactic to get others feeling pressured. Xelin seemed to be weak and uninspired, sort of like how you're accusing me to be. If I did have a choice to abstain, I would, but then I'd get modkilled, so I thought that instead of voting off a player I could simply double-lynch and collect my thoughts, but I didn't know that you still had a lynch. There is a big difference between "differing Play styles" and "genuine intent to help". I'm saying that new players if they are town actually try to post analysis, and actually try to help out. On the other hand, from you all I see are bandwagons.
Interesting analysis on Xelin, he's still alive. Would you like to accuse him now? And why didn't you post your reasoning yesterday? If you wanted to abstain that badly, why didn't you just vote for yourself, or someone else that doesn't have their head on the chopping block?
On October 11 2010 07:27 Bill Murray wrote: What's the case on kane]deth[? Why are you voting him DoctorH? If I've missed something that has happened, sorry, I haven't gotten a chance to read some of it yet DoctorH explains it quite well
On October 11 2010 06:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2010 04:52 kane]deth[ wrote:On October 10 2010 23:59 LSB wrote:On October 10 2010 13:24 Divinek wrote:NOOOOO PANDAIN, as much as I hate your fadoodles at least you play this game with heart! I will seek to avenge you my brother Now lets look at this motherfucker kane, I know there’s not much to look at lol On October 06 2010 06:25 kane]deth[ wrote: Due to school, I can really only post around this time.
Just making a post to indicate my activeness, will edit or post again later with thoughts after reading the thread.
Edit: So I'm not sure what content I must post to be not lynched so I suppose I'll just give my opinion on the RNGing lynching of inactives. I think it'll be a good idea as long as we're not lynching any modkills for obvious reasons. I personally don't contribute much and might be considered inactive, but thats because of my inexperience. >: So I think that at least pressuring people to post more is a good idea. Flat out giving us his excuse that he’s not gonna contribute much and be inactive, ie ANTI town. An argument could be made for town neutrality but that would require content from him. This is not an original idea btw, he’s literally parroting about 3 other people at this point. On October 06 2010 06:45 kane]deth[ wrote:On October 06 2010 06:31 kingjames01 wrote:On October 06 2010 06:25 kane]deth[ wrote: Due to school, I can really only post around this time.
Just making a post to indicate my activeness, will edit or post again later with thoughts after reading the thread. Just saw this and wanted to make sure you DON'T EDIT your post. Just make a new post. Welcome to the game! =) And I've just made a huge mistake >: Guilty conscience? I imagine his mafia buddies yelled at him for that one On October 07 2010 10:26 kane]deth[ wrote: I have no idea what to do once again. The more I try to find suspicious people, the more I think everyone is suspicious. I suppose I'll just keep reading and see if anyone really jumps out at me ._. Time and time I have seen new mafia players try this card out. They are confused, they don’t know what to do, this prevents them from having to put forward any of their own ideas because they know they are quite likely to slip up in ways they haven’t even thought of yet. Newbie town players are quite often FEARLESS, they know they got nothing to hide and they get into this game because they are EXCITED to get those mafia! NOT SCARED, why would you be scared if you were town? Then he apologizes for not voting blah blah more guilty conscience fuel On October 08 2010 09:57 kane]deth[ wrote: So I am currently voting for Misder as the proof that others have posted on him seems more reasonable than the accusations against any other player currently. The plan on getting rid of BM seems reasonable as well, but most of the analysis today has been wasted on what to do with him instead of finding Reds. Xelin seemed quick to bandwagon with BM but besides that he doesn't seem to be very suspicious. He could've just been slow on realizing how ridiculous BM's plans and not just bandwagoning for a kill. See that bolded word there? Yeah that’s right, OTHERs so if it goes bad (which it did) then he can go WELL I DIDN’T WANNA DO IT, but you guys presented such good arguments I agreed! Not my fault! It’s deflection at the most basic level Get rid of bm blah everyone already said that. Jumping on xelin too, everyone else did that. I mean this stuff would be fine to do of his own accord, but he’s just repeating everything that’s already been said. This is KEY because he can’t be caught for spewing bullshit because none of it is his own On October 08 2010 09:59 kane]deth[ wrote: Also note that I have no idea how these players have played in previous games, so I can't make references like that, or if something is strange or off about someone's playstyle. More I don’t know bullshit, as in don’t expect me to do things, to be useful. Blah blah im sick of your excuses. On October 08 2010 10:21 kane]deth[ wrote: I suppose proof was a bad word to use there. The accusations that he made against the 'higher tier' players baselessly and his general aggression. Basically the post that Ghrur made. Currently he's just making trouble by trying to lynch players at seemingly random.
I'm also lost on one thing; is the only way to find a players posts is to find a post of the player and then click profile? I love seeing this tactic. He apologizes, then puts up some shit justification and THEN he adds a question to the end of his post, as questions always take up everything you’re thinking about because you immediately try to answer that question and almost seemingly forget what you just read lol, quality double fake of the old flame fanning. On October 09 2010 12:07 kane]deth[ wrote: I had voted for Double Lynch already, as we would be able to lynch BM. Yuh yuh guys I agree with you don’t get angry with me im doing wut u asked. DIE Also as a little tidbit rol almost replaced this dude, look at rols only post in that entire time On October 06 2010 16:00 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: HAI GUYS
SO U NO IM IN THIS GAME NOW SO I WILL POST LATER AFTER I READ. Excuse for inactivity followed up by NOTHING. Sorry kane you’re not going to continue coasting by unnoticed. There’s nothing but wifom trying to draw away from if it was because of you on his list that pandain was killed or not, but one thing I do know, you’ve been doing fuck all for us and I have a pretty good idea why. You’re getting my vote, I will avenge you pandain! Firstly, my problems with your analysis I wouldn't really call kane]deth[ that experienced (wasn't the only other game he played he got modkilled?) Therefore we have to accept his excuses of being noobish as reality. And don't blame him for all his questions, my first two games I had lots of those in my posts And as you know, one of the posts was RoL, I'm not going to judge kane]deth[ off of RoL Next, I'm going to do some analysis of my own At the same time though, newcomers have giant "I'm Townie" lables on their posts, because of how they play. "I'm Townie" traits- - Does a lot, like over the weekends, they unleash huge torrents of spam/planning/accusations
- Relys on own analysis. Has sort of the "I don't trust anyone" appeal.
- (A continuation) They vote with good reasons, or abstain
kane]deth[ has been horrendously bad at doing any of this. His posts are all pretty cautious, he freerides off of other people's thoughts He actually initially voted for Misder, pushing the bandwagon On October 09 2010 12:19 kane]deth[ wrote: ##Vote Misder And then afterwards he switches to Xelin, even though he's pretty convinced on misder. This screams wishy-washy to me Kane]deth[ please roleclaimProblems with my analysis: It could just be bad play / he doesn't really care. I must say, you're entire analysis is bullshit; you're assuming that new players instantly take risks and because in the first few posts I have in mafia aren't decisive and inspired, that I am anti-town. I must say that there is truth though, I haven't contributed anything yet, but I promise I will by monday night. Of course you could say I'm delaying because I'm mafia but it IS thanksgiving over here and all. @LSB I'm role-claiming town, but even if I was mafia I would say that :V About my voting, I changed it because I was thinking XeliN in my mind but I typed Misder for some reason. Misder did seem to be angry and such but I thought that was just a good tactic to get others feeling pressured. Xelin seemed to be weak and uninspired, sort of like how you're accusing me to be. If I did have a choice to abstain, I would, but then I'd get modkilled, so I thought that instead of voting off a player I could simply double-lynch and collect my thoughts, but I didn't know that you still had a lynch. it would be nice if you contributed something to this game besides a lame defense to all the pressure being put on you so now you're out until tomorrow night? when the day is over? lol kk
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Bloodycobber, can you make a statement on what you feel about kane]deth[?
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Im intrested in how SR will respond. Because kingjames basically got me convinced right now
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SR's response to
- Indicates that he opposes lynching inactives because the "town will bandwagon" - Justifies Misder's choice to lynch inactives Removes that suspicion I had on my mind, which was the main thing I was worrying about. Kingjames's accusation did seem a bit too good to be true
Okay, as for my vote. I'm going to splice my vote so it's most likely going to hit a mafia. Notice that if we just kill one mafia, their KP goes down by one. Firstly, I'm going to stick to attacking Bill Murray. Bill Murray's plan was a horrendous flop. Literally all it does is shows the mafia who is blue. (Ie the people not speaking up). I can't believe I wasn't on at that time, but it's an immediate FOS for me.
Also take a look at Amber_Light. Firstly, what's up with voting for Xelin and Opz? Amber_Light is indicating that he wants to abstain, but Xelin right now is under a big bandwagon, and I don't like this "abstain" vote that might off someone. Secondly,
Opz wrote
Should Xelin not be sticking his head out? His analysis and his opinions have generally been good. So why isn't he helping us right now? Notice you attack xelin and then defend him. Same with BM. I don't get it. What do you want us to do? You're giving no direction. You are keeping us in a circle, and I don't like it. You need to go.
One problem. Maybe Amber_Light is medic and that's why he is accusing OpZ. I'm more inclined to believe Opz than Amber_Light, simply because the risks that Opz has to take in order to fake claim.
Lastly, check this out Bill Murray attacks Amber
On October 12 2010 04:41 Bill Murray wrote: pretty good case on amber, opz considering voting him, possibly even instead of BC. BC has been seeming town moreso to me lately Amber wants Bill dead
On October 08 2010 08:30 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 07:21 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 07:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 07:08 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 07:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:57 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:50 LSB wrote:On October 08 2010 06:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On October 08 2010 06:45 LSB wrote: [quote] We wouldn't be placing the game in the hands of the mafia. The mafia would want to kill BM at night as much as we do.
The point is, the only reason why the mafia wouldn't kill BM is if BM is mafia. or because town isn't going to lynch a village idiot and they don't need to kill him in the first place I find it quiet hard to believe that there are two VI's in this game. So what would we do about BM? We can't just ignore him Vig hit, we've already went over this Small concern: What if it turns out BM is vet? We lose Vigi powers. Big concern: Having the Vig kill BM doesn't help out the town at all It's better to have the Mafia do the dirty work for us than for us to have to do it ourselves. Essentially we are reducing mafia KP for a night. More people are alive. Yay! We don't decide what the mafia does. What you don't understand is that the only way this puts mafia in a corner is IF bill murray is mafia if bill murray isn't mafia they are sitting back and laughing at the pressure while we are essentially saying "if you don't kill this town player we will". if we have reason to believe he is the village idiot than lynching him is stupid Bill Murray is going to be dead no matter what if he is mafia. Doesn't change the situation for the Mafia at all O.O If Bill Murray is mafia, mafia is probably cutting losses right now and bandwagoning him. On the other hand, if Bill Murray isn't mafia, they will kill him. They have to decide between losing the game and using a KP. Obviously they are going to use a KP. If they sit back and laugh they will lose. so lets clarify you are saying if mafia doesn't kill bill murray we will lynch him and because he is the VI mafia will lose? if bill murray isn't mafia and the mafia doesn't kill him what does the mafia stand to lose that we don't? in that scenario both the mafia and the town are under equal pressure and the mafia have the upper hand because they know bill isn't red and we don't We both agree that if Bill Murray is mafia, there is no difference in the plan. The point of disagreement is what the mafia would do. Okay, I have no idea how you're approaching the problem. But I think we aren't on the same page. I'll just explain it again. Think of incentives from the Mafia's point of view. Assume we are following through with our plan. It's Night 2. Mafia knows that Bill Murray isn't one of them. They either have two options 1) Kill Bill Murray, if Bill Murray is a townie, its business as usually. If Bill Murray is VI they adverted disaster 2) Don't Kill Bill Murray, if Bill Murray is townie, nothing really happens as the town will just double lynch. If Bill Murrary is VI, the town would lynch Bill Murrary, thinking that Bill Murrary is red. Mafia will find that option 1 is preferable. Option 2 they have a chance of loosing. Option 1 they kill someone that doesn't reveal to the town much information about the mafia. As for the Town. It's Day 3. From our incentive analysis, we realize that if Bill Murrary was green/VI, mafia would have killed him. So if Bill Murrary is green, we wake up with his death post. If Bill Murrary was red, Mafia wouldn't have killed him. So we know that he is red. So we lynch him and we take out a mafia. What this plan does is exploit the fact that the mafia knows whether or not Bill Murray is redMafia basically knows Bill Murray's role. We don't. So we force the mafia to reveal this information. I agree with this 100%. This will give us a better answer then having a vigilante kill him. Mafia will want to make sure that he's taken out if they even think he's the village idiot. It doesn't guarantee that there's a possibility of ignoring the thread and going for someone else, but it would seem highly likely for them to halt losing altogether. (would be so embarrassing for town and mafia to have 2 VI's lynched) Killing BM today should be out of the question, and though I don't really want Xelin to be lynched he hasn't contributed and doesn't even want to explain or defend his position. Hopefully at the least he will flip a townie, mafia if we're really lucky, but I doubt it. Note that there are 5 mafia in the game, that means at least one of the bandwagons is probably mafia sponsored. Well, since they are attacking each other, I'm pretty sure that only one of the bandwagons is mafia sponsored. And so I'll split my vote to push for the town bandwagon.
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Okay, I'm begining to worry about the SR bandwagon. SR actually defended him self. I'm not supporting him or anything, but I'm worry about things like this
On October 12 2010 09:01 Hyperbola wrote: ##vote Southrawrea ##vote Bloodyc0bbler
People poping in, voting SR without a post, I'm just getting worried. I'll switch my vote away from BM because obviously it won't do anything important, and place it back on kane]deth[
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On October 12 2010 09:13 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2010 09:10 LSB wrote:Okay, I'm begining to worry about the SR bandwagon. SR actually defended him self. I'm not supporting him or anything, but I'm worry about things like this On October 12 2010 09:01 Hyperbola wrote: ##vote Southrawrea ##vote Bloodyc0bbler People poping in, voting SR without a post, I'm just getting worried. I'll switch my vote away from BM because obviously it won't do anything important, and place it back on kane]deth[ ok WTF Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 13:30 BrownBear wrote: Signup list:
1. JeeJeeLSB 2. bumatlarge Killed Night 1, Town 3. Bill Murray 4. Pandain 5. SouthRawrea 6. Amber[LighT] 7. Infundibulum Killed Night 1, Town 8. Divinek 9. Misder Day 2 Lynch, Townie 10.SINiquity 11.XeliN 12.kane]deth[ 13.~OpZ~ 14.DoctorHelvetica 15.infinitestory 16.cSc Modkilled Day 2, Veteran 17.Happy.fairytail BloodyC0bbler 18.NukeTheBunnys 19.Crisis_ 20.drag_ 21.CynanMachae 22.meeple 23.kingjames01 24.ghrur 25.Protactinium Lynched Day 1, Village Idiot
since WHEN do we have a player named Hyperbola in this game LMAO. I didn't notice that
Hahahahahahahahaha
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In addition he hasn't even posted in Haunted mafia yet.
I'd like to encourage everyone to vote for one of the "big bandwagons" XeliN Amber[Light] Southrarea kane]deth[
Your vote on a small dude isn't going to do anything. Mafia would love to just stick aside and not be noticed.
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Amberlight has this weird idea that I'm actually good. It makes me think he's not mafia, or he'd already off me. (Then again... I did break Callers game)
I'll switch off of him cause my whole, "Bill Murray and Amberlight" combination didn't really work out as I took my vote off of Bill Murray.
I kindof don't like how a) Xelin's role got swept under the rug. And b) Xelin was like "Hey! Lets talk about PMs!" after BB was like "FUUUUUU"
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Dear Sana Vigi, I've been a good boy. Please Kill Bill Murray tonight. Thank you -LSB
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I iz dead
Now I'll ruin the game for you. This kid, LSB, he's mafia
User was p0wnzred by BB for this post
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On October 15 2010 15:06 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2010 15:05 Divinek wrote:On October 15 2010 14:58 infinitestory wrote: ok wtf so the detectives pretty much all knew each other
DrH and kingjames did really impressive pro-town games, I'm amazed (I also had a feeling Godfather would pose as a DT) BC we knew, but he defended himself more than some of the townies >___> and based on the modkills and lynch, I was prepared to guess Divinek and ghrur as mafia o_O
I think the crux of this game boiled down to having so many new players / inactives that finding suspects who didn't defend themselves or couldn't do it properly was more than easy, it was guaranteed. doesnt matter what you guess if you cant get them lynched lol! it boiled down to town being too lazy and passive here's for finding a red then not claiming and getting him killed! *dances a happy jig* I somehow survived multiple lynch days, a vig hit, and a dt check. Lady luck of mafia just shined down on me. Yeah, that was dumb. Who in the world Roleblocks AND kills the same person :S
That saved your life
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I wonder if there are any townie Bearies...
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